[NIFL-ESL:8462] RE: using poetry in the adult ed EL/Civics

From: Mary Hogan (maryhogan@hotmail.com)
Date: Tue Jan 14 2003 - 12:43:32 EST


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Thanks, Andres.  I'm doing a training on writing this weekend and wanted to 
include poety.  Your ideas are perfect for our students.  Thanks!






>From: "Andres Muro" <AndresM@epcc.edu>
>Reply-To: nifl-esl@nifl.gov
>To: Multiple recipients of list <nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov>
>Subject: [NIFL-ESL:8461] RE: using poetry in the adult ed EL/Civics
>Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 12:26:35 -0500 (EST)
>
>Poetry can be used at all levels. Of course you need to select poetry that 
>meets the educational level of the learner.
>
>A long time ago one of our students wrote that he felt like a bird with no 
>wings because he couldn't read.
>
>That alone is a poem.
>
>Alma Flor Ada has a lot of excersises to build writing skills using poetry.
>For example, she suggests giving the students a promt such as
>
>I am like....
>
>Then she asks the students to compare themselves to an object, thing, 
>animal, etc.
>
>I am like a rock
>I am like a cat
>I am like a flower
>I am like a bird
>
>You can continue to add different elements to this excersise, such as:
>
>I am like a ......that......
>I am like a ......because
>I am the......that.......
>
>You can explore other constructions such as
>
>I feel like.....
>I need....
>I want.....
>
>Hope that this helps,
>
>Andres
> >>> susanefl@hotmail.com 01/14/03 09:45AM >>>
>I am surprised at using poetry in ESL. Poetry is so difficult to translate.
>Would this be a college level class?
>Susan
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> >From: "Miriam Burt" <miriam@cal.org>
> >Reply-To: nifl-esl@nifl.gov
> >To: Multiple recipients of list <nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov>
> >Subject: [NIFL-ESL:8456] RE: using poetry in the adult ed EL/Civics
> >classroom
> >Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 16:49:04 -0500 (EST)
> >
> >Hillary:
> >
> >In 1999, NCLE published a digest by Joy Peyton and Pat Rigg about using
> >poetry in the adult ESL class. It offers suggestions/activities on how to
> >read a poem in class and how to write one. It even has a lesson plan for
> >one poem included there. The poem is about working, so the content is
> >directly related to adult ESL.
> >
> >Check it out online at http://www.cal.org/ncle/digests/Poetry.htm
> >
> >Miriam
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> >Associate Director, National Center for ESL Literacy Education (NCLE)
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> >assistance to those working with adults learning English as a second
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> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Hillary Gardner [mailto:hgardner@lagcc.cuny.edu]
> >Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 4:31 PM
> >To: Multiple recipients of list
> >Subject: [NIFL-ESL:8455] using poetry in the adult ed EL/Civics
> >classroom
> >
> >
> >Hello,
> >
> >I am preparing a brief conference session for EL/civics teachers on using
> >poetry in the EL/Civics classroom. I am looking for sample lesson plans 
>or
> >suggestions of poems to use with adult ed students in the ESL/Civics
> >classroom. Specifically, I am looking for poems that touch on civics 
>themes
> >(civil rights, community involvement, famous Americans), and especially
> >poems suitable for beginners in the ESL adult ed classroom.
> >
> >I have a large selection of poems by Langston Hughes, some from Carl
> >Sandburg, and many Native American poems. I have also had luck with poems
> >from the "Poetry in Motion" program and resources available from Teachers 
>&
> >Writers Collaborative. However, most of the articles I have found online
> >discuss using poetry in the academic ESL classroom. I'd appreciate any
> >suggestions for good poems or good poetry writing exercises for low-level
> >adult learners. Has anyone had any successful experiences that they can
> >share?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Hillary Gardner
> >
> >EL/Civics Instructor
> >Center for Immigrant Education and Training
> >LaGuardia Community College
> >Long Island City, New York
>
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