[NIFL-ESL:8442] Re: Leave no child behind

From: Virginia Tardaewether (tarv@chemeketa.edu)
Date: Thu Jan 09 2003 - 15:52:59 EST


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I think this article is a great example for logical thinking and planning,
higher order thinking exercises for our students who are also parents.
Budgeting, Consequences and planning are important skills that we address
daily in our ABE classroom.
Virginia Tardaewether


-----Original Message-----
From: sissy kegley [mailto:skegley@us.net] 
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 08:13
To: Multiple recipients of list
Subject: [NIFL-ESL:8439] Re: Leave no child behind


Good Morning.

With apologies to Lisa Pearce whose desire to keep control over the size of
her Inbox I respect sincerely, I would like to post a commentary regarding
the previous  3 or 4 messages "Re: Leave No Child Behind" to the list.

(And, in support of Lisa's perspective, folks who are interested in
advocacy- or policy-related issues within our field do have the option of
subscribing to other listservs which provide a forum for vigorous
debate..)

Having said that, the following is also true:

1. one message about funding implications LEADS TO..........
2. ....a second message providing a brief nod of agreement as to that
absurdity which LEADS TO...... 3. .....a third message using the term
"complaints" to describe the aforementioned messages.

Did Lisa actually intend to say that this listserv ought to be used for
something closer to instructional issues rather than invoking a
characterization of the first 2 messages as 'complaints'? 
I do not know, first of all, Lisa's intentions, and, second of all, the List
Managers can easily refresh about the language around the purpose of the
list.

The exchange, nevertheless, points to something else: 
My background and training are as a long-time (20+ years) ESOL for adults
teacher. In the trenches, year in and year out. I love it. 
Having drifted to advocacy work along the way, I've developed a working
theory that I'm still working to articulate, but it goes something like
this:
 There are the practitioners, those of us teaching. There are the theorists,
those whose work informs and provides tremendous insight (frequently, not
always) about effective practice. There are the 'policy wonks' who oversee
and monitor (and try to influence) how much power and resources we will have
to do what all of us are trying to do.

Most folks work in one or two of those 3 groups (not me, I'm still trying to
decide where my niche is; although I love keeping up with the theory-stuff I
do not think I have what it takes to be an academic..) I digress. My
constant amazement is the tremendous disconnect between the three groups.
Some of the disconnect is well-discussed...Teachers may bristle at what the
academics come up with, etc. 

Maybe I'm splitting hairs, but I see a difference between a "disconnect" and
the lack of cohesion, unity, collaboration which actually exacerbates the
daily challenges we each face. Too bad there is not room for
mutual-appreciation and even bottom-to-top collaboration among the 3 groups.
In the bigger picture, an advocate OUGHT to be closely aligned with what the
teachers are doing; the theorists OUGHT to be listening to what the teachers
say; the teachers OUGHT to care what the policy implications are. 

My intention here was to offer observation, but I admit that instead my
language sounds preachy. At any rate, I know the important work I see being
carried out in advocacy every day locally, statewide, nationally would be
tremendously enhanced by increased engagement with those who are teaching
and working with the students every day.

Finally, to those who would question whether I had anything better to do
than clog up the Inboxes, you're right .. I do..

Sissy Kegley
skegley@us.net
301-588-4333



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