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AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE GRAND RAPIDS MI
800 PM EDT SUN OCT 26 2008

LATEST UPDATE...AVIATION...

.SYNOPSIS...(415 PM EDT SUN OCT 26 2008)
THE GREAT LAKES REGION WILL EXPERIENCE THE FIRST TASTE OF WINTER
EARLY THIS WEEK AS A SERIES OF COLD FRONTS PASS THROUGH AND BRING
PROGRESSIVELY COLDER AIR DOWN FROM CANADA. SCATTERED LAKE EFFECT
RAIN SHOWERS WILL BE MIXED WITH SNOW SHOWERS TONIGHT AND MONDAY THEN
CHANGE TO MOSTLY SNOW ON MONDAY NIGHT INTO TUESDAY. SOME LIGHT
ACCUMULATIONS WILL BE POSSIBLE WEST OF HIGHWAY 131 MONDAY NIGHT. A
WARMING TREND WILL BEGIN ON WEDNESDAY.

&&

.SHORT TERM...(415 PM EDT SUN OCT 26 2008)
(TODAY THROUGH TUESDAY)
THE CORE OF THE STRONGEST WINDS ALOFT /50-55KT AT H8/... AS WELL AS
THE STRONGEST COLD ADVECTION /-8C AT H8/... IS PASSING SOUTHWEST OF
MICHIGAN THIS AFTERNOON AND EVENING. THUS WIND GUSTS ARE STRUGGLING
TO REACH ADVISORY CRITERIA OF 45 MPH (39KTS). HOWEVER HAVE OPTED TO
RIDE THE ADVISORY THROUGH IT/S EXPIRATION TIME OF 8 PM SINCE THERE
IS CURRENTLY SOME CONVECTION AROUND THAT COULD HELP PRODUCE SOME
BRIEF/ISOLATED 45 MPH GUSTS. WILL ALSO CARRY A MENTION OF THUNDER
AND POSSIBLE SMALL HAIL IN THE GRIDS THROUGH 00Z AS LIFTED INDICES
HOLD AROUND -2 OR SO UNTIL AROUND SUNSET.

THE CORE OF THE COLDEST AIR GOES SOUTH OF MI TONIGHT AND A TROUGH OF
WARMER H8 AIR /-3C/ PIVOTS DOWN FROM THE NW WITH THE NEXT SHORTWAVE.
THIS WILL MAKE IT VERY TOUGH TO TRANSITION THE LAKE EFFECT PCPN TO
ALL SNOW TONIGHT WHICH WILL MAKE ACCUMULATIONS UNLIKELY. NAM LOW
LEVEL THICKNESS SCHEMES AND SFC TEMP PROGS LOOK A TAD TOO WARM.
THIS IS A TREND WHICH BEGAN WITH THE 00Z GUIDANCE AND HAS CONTINUED
IN THE 12Z GUIDANCE.

THERE IS STILL A STRONG CONCERN HOWEVER THAT OCCASIONAL CHANGEOVERS
TO ALL SNOW COULD OCCUR WITHIN THE MORE INTENSE LAKE EFFECT BANDS
LATE TONIGHT. SOME OF THOSE BANDS CERTAINLY COULD BE INTENSE SINCE
DEEP MOISTURE WILL BE PRESENT WITH VIRTUALLY NO INVERSION ALOFT
INDICATED IN THE FCST SOUNDINGS. THUS QUICK COATINGS OF AN INCH OR
SO CANNOT BE COMPLETELY RULED OUT TONIGHT AND MONDAY MORNING. LAKE
EFFECT BANDS WILL PROBABLY BECOME MORE OPEN CELLULAR BY MONDAY
AFTERNOON DUE TO DISRUPTION FROM DIURNAL EFFECTS.

THE BEST CHANCE OF ACCUMULATING LAKE EFFECT SNOW WILL BE MONDAY
NIGHT AND TUESDAY MORNING. THIS IS WHEN THE COLDEST H8 AIR OF -8C
WILL BE IN PLACE BEHIND THE DEPARTING SECONDARY TROUGH. FLOW IS
NNW... WHICH WOULD SUPPORT SOME POTENTIAL 1-3 ACCUMULATIONS WEST OF
HIGHWAY 131. EXCEPTION WOULD BE THE IMMEDIATE LAKE MI COASTLINE
WHERE A MIX WILL LIKELY CONTINUE SINCE THE LK MI WATER TEMP IS 55F.
MEANWHILE AREAS ALONG/EAST OF HWY 131 WILL LIKELY CLR OUT MONDAY
NIGHT AND HAVE A HARD FREEZE.

&&

.LONG TERM...(415 PM EDT SUN OCT 26 2008)
(TUESDAY NIGHT THROUGH SATURDAY)
UPPER CYCLONIC FLOW WILL BE EXITING THE CWFA AS THE UPPER JET
MIGRATES TO THE EAST AT THE BEGINNING OF THE LONG TERM ON WED
MORNING. UPPER RIDGING IS EXPECTED TO BUILD...AND DRY OUT THE AREA
FOR A COUPLE OF DAYS ALONG WITH SOME ABOVE NORMAL TEMPERATURES.

STRONG UPPER ENERGY DIVING SOUTHEAST OUT OF CANADA WILL SQUEEZE THE
UPPER RIDGING TO THE EAST. MODELS ARE COMING INTO AGREEMENT ON THIS
HAPPENING IN THE FRI TIME FRAME. MODELS ARE INDICATING THAT LITTLE
IF ANY PCPN IS GOING TO BE ASSOCIATED WITH THE FRONT. MOISTURE IS
NOT ALL THAT DEEP WITH DIFFERENT LAYERS OF MOISTURE NOT OVERLAPPING
WELL. WE WILL MAINTAIN THE DRY FCST FOR NOW WITH NO GOOD
JUSTIFICATION ATTM TO INTRODUCE POPS INTO THE FCST. H850 TEMPS ARE
EXPECTED TO DROP FROM AROUND +10C OR SO AHEAD OF THE FRONT...TO -6C
OR SO BEHIND THE FRONT.

THREAT OF LAKE EFFECT SEEMS RATHER LOW EVEN WITH THE COLD AIR
DROPPING INTO THE CWFA. THIS IS BECAUSE THE FLOW IS EXPECTED TO BE
NORTHEAST AS A RESULT OF THE ORIENTATION OF THE SFC HIGH COMING IN
FROM THE NW. THIS RIDGE WILL THEN MOVE OVERHEAD NEXT WEEKEND.

&&

.MARINE...(415 PM EDT SUN OCT 26 2008)
MAY BE ABLE TO CANCEL THE GALE WARNING EARLY BUT EVEN SO VERY ROUGH
CONDITIONS WILL PERSIST IN LAKE MI INTO TUESDAY AS UNSEASONABLY COLD
AIR AND CYCLONIC FLOW AFFECTS THE REGION. WAVE HEIGHTS NEAR 10 FEET
SHOULD BEGIN TRENDING DOWN MONDAY NIGHT... BUT REMAIN ABOVE SMALL
CRAFT ADVISORY CRITERIA INTO TUESDAY.

&&

.AVIATION...(800 PM EDT SUN OCT 26 2008)
THERE IS A BAND OF SHOWERS ON THE THERMAL BOUNDARY THAT SEPARATES
AIR NORTH OF I-96 WHICH HAD TEMPERATURES MOSTLY IN THE LOWER 40S AND
DEW POINTS IN THE MID 30S FROM AIR SOUTH OF THAT WHICH HAD
TEMPERATURES NEAR 50 AND DEW POINTS BELOW FREEZING. THAT BOUNDARY
HAS PRODUCED SOME LAKE ENHANCED THUNDERSTORMS NEAR MKG FROM 3 PM
THROUGH 8 PM. FREQUENT REPORTS OF 1/4 INCH HAIL WHERE RECEIVED.
THIS BOUNDARY WILL DROP SOUTH OVER THE NEXT 3 HOURS REACHING I-94.
WITH THE SUN NOW SET... THUNDERSTORMS ARE NO LONGER EXPECTED AS THE
SURFACE INSTABILITY IS NO LONGER THERE. STILL... SHOWERS WILL
CONTINUE AS THE FRONT DROPS SOUTH WITH TIME.

ONCE THAT BOUNDARY IS THROUGH WINDS BECOME MORE NORTHWEST THROUGH A
DEEP LAYER. THE AIR BECOMES NEARLY SATURATED THROUGH -20C ISOTHERM
AND STAYS THAT WAY THROUGH MONDAY. THUS NORTHWEST FLOW LAKE EFFECT
IS EXPECTED. LOCATIONS LIKE MKG AND AZO SHOULD SEE NEARLY CONTINUOUS
SHOWERS THROUGH MONDAY AFTERNOON. SINCE THE WET BULB ZERO STAYS
ABOVE 2000 FT MOST OF THAT TIME... I DO NOT SEE AN ISSUE WITH SNOW.
I IS POSSIBLE TO GET GRAUPEL FROM THE STRONGER SHOWERS BUT I DID NOT
FEEL CONFIDENT ENOUGH TO PUT IT IN THE TAFS. LOCATIONS EAST OF MKG
AND AZO WILL SEE A PERIOD OF SHOWERS TONIGHT AS THE COLDER AIR MOVES
IN BUT AFTER THAT...AFTER MIDNIGHT OR SO PRECIPITATION WILL FOR THE
MOST PART END AND THEY WELL HAVE FOR THE MOST PART MVFR CIGS.
NORTHWEST WINDS OF 15 TO 25 KNOTS THROUGH MONDAY.



&&

.HYDROLOGY...(415 PM EDT SUN OCT 26 2008)
NO HYDRO CONCERNS AS PCPN NEXT 72 HOURS WILL BE GENERALLY SCATTERED
IN NATURE WITH QPF AMOUNTS BELOW HALF INCH.

&&

.GRR WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES...
MI...WIND ADVISORY THROUGH 8 PM...ENTIRE CWA.
LM...GALE WARNING IN EFFECT ST. JOE TO MANISTEE TODAY THROUGH MONDAY
AFTERNOON.

&&

$$

SYNOPSIS:     MEADE
SHORT TERM:   MEADE
LONG TERM:    NJJ
MARINE:       MEADE
AVIATION:     WDM
HYDROLOGY:    MEADE











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