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AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE GRAND RAPIDS MI
1142 PM EDT SAT OCT 25 2008

LATEST UPDATE...AVIATION...

.SYNOPSIS...(430 PM EDT SAT OCT 25 2008)
A STRONG COLD FRONT WILL CROSS SOUTHWEST LOWER MICHIGAN EARLY SUNDAY
MORNING AND VERY WINDY CONDITIONS WILL DEVELOP. SCATTERED RAIN
SHOWERS WILL BECOME MIXED WITH OR CHANGE TO SNOW SHOWERS SUNDAY
NIGHT AS THE COLDEST AIR OF THE SEASON ARRIVES. SOME SLUSHY SNOW
ACCUMULATIONS WILL BE POSSIBLE SUNDAY NIGHT AND MONDAY...EXCEPT
CLOSE TO THE LAKE MICHIGAN SHORELINE.

UNSEASONABLY COLD TEMPERATURES AND SCATTERED LAKE EFFECT RAIN AND
SNOW SHOWERS WILL LINGER OVER THE AREA THROUGH TUESDAY BEFORE A
MODERATING TREND BEGINS.

&&

.SHORT TERM...(430 PM EDT SAT OCT 25 2008)
(TODAY THROUGH MONDAY)
WILL GO WITH A DRY FCST THIS EVENING AS H5 UPPER LOW/TROUGH EXITS TO
THE NORTHEAST AND WE WAIT FOR THE COLD FRONT TO ARRIVE FROM THE WEST
AFTER 06Z. IT WILL BE A POTENT FRONT... DRIVEN BY A 150 KT UPPER
LEVEL JET. MODELS SHOW A STRONG VORT MAX ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE JET
(AND SLIGHTLY SUB ZERO LIFTED INDICES) ARRIVING WITH THE FRONT SO
WILL HAVE CHANCE POPS RETURNING AFTER 06Z AND EVEN A SLIGHT CHANCE
OF THUNDERSTORMS.

HAVE EXPANDED THE WIND ADVISORY SUNDAY TO COVER THE ENTIRE CWFA. IT
IS SOMEWHAT BORDERLINE FOR THE COUNTIES INLAND FROM LAKE MICHIGAN...
BUT WE SHOULD SEE GUSTS REACHING OR EXCEEDING 40 MPH AT TIMES DUE TO
DEEPLY MIXED CONDITIONS STILL SHOWN IN THE FCST SOUNDINGS. WILL
CARRY LIKELY POPS FOR RAIN SHOWERS/ISOLATED TSTMS IN THE MORNING AS
THE COLD FRONT/VORT MAX COMES THROUGH... THEN SCATTERED POPS FOR
MIXED RAIN AND SNOW SHOWERS IN THE AFTERNOON AS THE COLD AIR (-4C AT
H8) POURS ACROSS THE LAKE. IT/S INTERESTING TO NOTE THAT BUFKIT RH
PROFILES STILL SHOW VERY DRY AIR BELOW 5K FEET SUNDAY AFTERNOON AND
EVENING... SO LAKE EFFECT PCPN PROBABLY WILL NOT BE TOO SIGNIFICANT.

HOWEVER AS THE POLAR JET DIPS SOUTH OF THE STATE AND DEEPER MOISTURE
ARRIVES SUNDAY NIGHT... LAKE EFFECT SHOWERS SHOULD INCREASE IN
INTENSITY WITH SOME LIGHT/SLUSHY SNOW ACCUMULATIONS POSSIBLE BY
DAYBREAK MONDAY. THE BEST CHANCE OF ACCUMULATIONS WILL BE INLAND
FROM LAKE MICHIGAN AWAY FROM WARMING INFLUENCE OF WATERS STILL IN
THE MID 50S. IN GENERAL TRAVEL PROBABLY WILL NOT BE IMPACTED TOO
MUCH SINCE THE GROUND TEMPS ARE STILL VERY WARM.... BUT IF INTENSE
SNOW BANDS DO DEVELOP...THE HIGHER SNOWFALL RATES COULD CERTAINLY
COAT THE ROADS AND LOWER THE VISIBILITY SIGNIFICANTLY. WINTER WX
ADVISORIES MAY BE NEEDED TO COVER THE POTENTIALLY MESSY MONDAY
MORNING COMMUTE/FIRST SNOW OF THE SEASON.

THE COLD AIR STICKS AROUND MONDAY AND MONDAY NIGHT WITH LAKE EFFECT
SNOW SHOWERS CONTINUING. THE PREDOMINATE WIND FLOW IS NW... KEEPING
MOST OF THE RAIN/SNOW BANDS ALONG/WEST OF HIGHWAY 131. SOME
ACCUMULATIONS ARE CERTAINLY POSSIBLE... PARTICULARLY AT NIGHT AND
INLAND FROM THE LAKE.

&&

.LONG TERM...(314 PM EDT SAT OCT 25 2008)
(TUESDAY THROUGH SATURDAY)
FORECAST CONCERNS ARE FEW DURING THE EXTENDED PERIOD AND MAINLY DEAL
WITH PCPN TRENDS TUESDAY. THE DEEP UPPER LOW MOVING THROUGH THE
GREAT LAKES WILL BE MOVING INTO NEW ENGLAND BY TUESDAY MORNING. A
HIGH AMPLITUDE UPPER RIDGE WILL TAKE ITS PLACE. TEMPS WILL SLOWLY
RISE TO THE UPPER 50S BY THE END OF THE WEEK AS THE RIDGE SLIDES
EAST. BOTH THE GFS AND ECMWF SHOW A SHORT WAVE UNDERCUTTING THE
TROUGH FRIDAY AND MOVING THROUGH THE OHIO VALLEY. THE GFS IS
STRONGER AND A LITTLE FARTHER NORTH WITH THIS WAVE THAN THE ECMWF
IS. WE/RE NOT GOING TO ADD PCPN TO THE GRIDS AT THIS POINT FOR THIS
FEATURE...BUT WILL INCREASE CLOUDS IN THE SW TO ACCOUNT FOR IT.

&&

.MARINE...(430 PM EDT SAT OCT 25 2008)
SOUTHWEST WINDS TO 30 KNOTS LATE THIS AFTERNOON AND EVENING WILL
PRODUCE WAVES OF 4 FEET OR MORE. GALE FORCE WEST WINDS TO 45 KNOTS
ARE EXPECTED TO DEVELOP EARLY SUNDAY MORNING BEHIND THE COLD
FRONT... AND REMAIN AT OR ABOVE GALE FORCE INTO MONDAY.

&&

.AVIATION...(1142 PM EDT SAT OCT 25 2008)
THE CLEARING OF THE LOW CLOUDS IS PROGRESSING AS EXPECTED AS IS THE
SPREADING OF THE MID CLOUDS. RADAR SHOWS ECHOS BUT THIS IS FOR THE
MOST PART VIRGA.  THE CLEARING OF THE LOW CLOUDS HAS NOT REACHED LAN
AND JXN YET (1130 PM) BUT SHOULD REACH THERE AROUND 06Z.  DUE TO THE
MID LEVEL WARM ADVECTION I DO NOT SEE MUCH IN THE WAY OF LOW CLOUDS
OVERNIGHT ONCE THE LOW CLOUDS HAVE MOVED OUT.

THE TRUE COLD AIR PUSH DOES NOT REACH THE CWA TILL AROUND 00Z. THUS
I HAVE EXPUNGED THE SHOWERS FROM THE TAFS. THE LATEST MODELS SEEM TO
SUGGEST TO MUCH LOW LEVEL DRY AIR FOR ANY SIGNIFICANT SHOWERS SUNDAY
(ENOUGH TO PUT IN THE TAFS).  ONCE THE COLD AIR REACHES THE CWA
EARLY SUNDAY NIGHT...WELL THAT IS ANOTHER STORY. THEN NORTHWEST FLOW
LAKE EFFECT WILL DEVELOP AND TAF SITES WEST OF US-131 SHOULD SEE
SHOWERS AND MVFR CIGS BY 10 PM OR SO.


&&

.HYDROLOGY...(430 PM EDT SAT OCT 25 2008)
NO HYDRO CONCERNS AS PCPN NEXT 72 HOURS WILL BE GENERALLY SCATTERED
IN NATURE WITH QPF AMOUNTS BELOW HALF INCH.

&&

.GRR WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES...
MI...WIND ADVISORY SUNDAY...ENTIRE CWFA.
LM...SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY IN EFFECT THROUGH LAKE TONIGHT ST JOE TO
MANISTEE THEN A GALE WARNING IN EFFECT THROUGH MONDAY AFTERNOON.

&&

$$

SYNOPSIS:     MEADE
SHORT TERM:   MEADE
LONG TERM:    93
MARINE:       MEADE
AVIATION:     WDM
HYDROLOGY:    MEADE






















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