Return-Path: <nifl-womenlit@literacy.nifl.gov> Received: from literacy (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by literacy.nifl.gov (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id h0LHNDP13275; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 12:23:13 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 12:23:13 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <OF95D38534.58556492-ON85256CB5.005DAA9D@health.state.ny.us> Errors-To: alcrsb@langate.gsu.edu Reply-To: nifl-womenlit@literacy.nifl.gov Originator: nifl-womenlit@literacy.nifl.gov Sender: nifl-womenlit@literacy.nifl.gov Precedence: bulk From: "Louise A. Schoggen" <las15@health.state.ny.us> To: Multiple recipients of list <nifl-womenlit@literacy.nifl.gov> Subject: [NIFL-WOMENLIT:2449] Re: weight as an issue X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0c -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.8 June 18, 2001 Status: O Content-Length: 5424 Lines: 117 Extreme thinness is promoted largely because it is so difficult to obtain. Models and actresses in the public eye generally have personal trainers, dieticians/meal-preparers, stylists, assistants, etc. devoted to making them thin, toned, and conventionally attractive. A not insignificant number can add cosmetic surgery to the list. All this is still not enough, of course-- when photographed or filmed, these celebrities must be further made up, perfectly lit, and finally even Photoshopped to look just "right". Meanwhile, the rest of us, without the time and financial resources to devote to an army of body-maintainers, and without an airbrush artist to idealize our features, must muddle along as best we can with our walks around the block (if the area is safe enough) and attempts to find decent produce in February (or, especially in poorer neighborhoods, in any month). Thus, being extremely thin and toned becomes a characteristic of the wealthy and famous....and who doesn't want to look like the elite? Louise "Andres Muro" <AndresM@epcc.edu To: Multiple recipients of list > <nifl-womenlit@literacy.nifl.gov> Sent by: cc: nifl-womenlit@nif Subject: [NIFL-WOMENLIT:2448] weight l.gov as an issue 01/21/2003 11:52 AM Please respond to nifl-womenlit Daphnee asked: Jody has mentioned that "weight is the last acceptable form of discrimination". Do people see any signs that this is beginning to change? No! and it is tricky. On one hand you have the media that promotes a certain look, hence, discriminating against anyone that does not fit that look. All media has and continues to promote thinness, especially among women. Since the media establishes acceptableness, anyone that does not fit the status quo, is not acceptable in the dominant eye. Obsession with extreme thinness has led to mental illness associated with being thin. On the other hand, because America is a land of overabundance, there are, in fact problems with excess, so obesity is a problem in America and Western Europe. The combination of media's obsession with thinness and the fact that in some cases obesity can be controlled has led to a doubled attack on obesity. The problem is that, aside from not being aesthetically acceptable by the majority, or, unhealthy, or, in some cases controllable, there is nothing wrong with being thin, or fat. Thinness can also be unhealthy, however, because it does not go against the dominant aesthetic model, it is accepted, even in cases of serious illness. Some could argue that that obessitiy is attacked on grounds of unhealthiness. However, heavy people are discriminated against more than smokers, drinkers, bullimics and anorexics. Moreover, healthy heavy people are discriminated against more than thin unhealthy people. Since aesthetic standards are not universal, but socially created, I wonder what is the social/economic explanation for promoting thinness? Could it have something to do with workforce productivity/cost? (just speculating) Andres >>> alcdgg@langate.gsu.edu 01/17/03 06:15AM >>> Jody has mentioned that "weight is the last acceptable form of discrimination". Do people see any signs that this is beginning to change? Daphne Daphne Greenberg Associate Director Center for the Study of Adult Literacy Georgia State University University Plaza Atlanta, GA 30303-3083 phone: 404-651-0127 fax:404-651-4901 dgreenberg@gsu.edu >>> pjfern1@ix.netcom.com 01/16/03 10:49 AM >>> Daphne, Studies have shown weight is the last acceptable form of discrimination. As hindsight is 20/20 it's easy to see what should have been said and done - that the comment was unacceptable and hurtful, albeit unintentional. I don't know what I would have done. By current medical standards, I am considered "morbidly obese"at 5'2" and 158 pounds and a size 12-14. I don't feel obese. But a comment made by me might be interpreted as jealousy of thinner people. After all, many assume that obesity is a chosen condition and if I had more self-control and exercised more, it would go away. If there were another session, I would have definitely discussed it in the context of all physical appearance. Jody Fernandez --- pjfern1@ix.netcom.com The worst sin toward our fellow creatures is not to hate them, but to be indifferent to them: that's the essence of inhumanity. George Bernard Shaw
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