Return-Path: <nifl-womenlit@literacy.nifl.gov> Received: from literacy (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by literacy.nifl.gov (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id h9HHcQV14898; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 13:38:26 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 13:38:26 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <20031017173738.46724.qmail@web11204.mail.yahoo.com> Errors-To: listowner@nifl.gov Reply-To: nifl-womenlit@literacy.nifl.gov Originator: nifl-womenlit@literacy.nifl.gov Sender: nifl-womenlit@literacy.nifl.gov Precedence: bulk From: Bertha Mo <bertiemo@yahoo.com> To: Multiple recipients of list <nifl-womenlit@literacy.nifl.gov> Subject: [NIFL-WOMENLIT:2755] Re: ADHD X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0c -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Status: O Content-Length: 4225 Lines: 119 This is a very interesting and useful discussion. I wondered if education psychologists should be challenged to come up with simpler and less expensive diagnostic tools to ascertain the learners who are visual or auditory... Many community colleges and universities now offer learning centers and counseling centers were students have the opportunity to discuss learning styles and learning strategies as well as find counseling for life issues that make learning difficult...but I gather this is not the case for low income learners particularly adults who are also working. In my own family, I remember that my brothers really fought to have their kids tested even though they were members of a large California HMO. I am sure the studies have been done regarding the cost benefits of intervention for learning differences vis a vie the alternatives such as low literacy, unemployment, poor health, delinquency...but no one seems to be listening. Bertie Mo --- Susan McGilloway <msmcgilloway@msn.com> wrote: > I'm wondering if the reason some of my students have > dropped out of school > is that the traditional classroom did not allow them > the flexibility to > learn differently. There is very little provision in > many classrooms for the > student who learns differently. By the time I get > students, the system has > already failed them. In order to help them learn, I > need to find out the > best ways that they learn. For some of them, this > involves diagnosis for a > suspected condition such as ADHD or ADD. For some it > is that they are > primarily visual or auditory learners. I don't mean > to simplify the problem > by indicating that we do not have adequate testing > and diagnostic facilities > but that is a significant problem for those whom we > suspect to have a > "learning deficiency" and are of low income. If a > student is having > difficulty no matter what method we try to use to > teach them, where do we > turn to have them tested? There are very few places > who do not charge > incredible fees for diagnostic testing. This issue > is only part of a social > problem that needs to be addressed. > > > >From: jackie davis <rainboja100@yahoo.com> > >Reply-To: nifl-womenlit@nifl.gov > >To: Multiple recipients of list > <nifl-womenlit@literacy.nifl.gov> > >Subject: [NIFL-WOMENLIT:2748] Re: ADHD > >Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 18:40:34 -0400 (EDT) > > > >Heidi wrote: "Too often in education we rush to > >identify a learner's difficulty as an individual > >deficit without looking at the whole context in > which > >they are trying to learn (which includes our > >classrooms and instruction)." > > > >When my son, who has learning disabilities, I came > to > >call them "learning differences." He processed > >information very differently than I do - or his > >teachers and his teachers teachers. There was so > >little effort to address those with various > abilities > >(some with very high intelligence) who needed to be > >addressed in a different style. Though I must say > >that I was just as ignorant at it in my Mom role, > I've > >watched others be able to come at communication > with > >my now adult son and be successful! I think that > we > >are still at the very beginnings of learning what > >these differences are, let alone how to pierce > >through. As a society, haven't yet cracked the > code > >of brain processing and its many levels of > complextiy, > >which does not necessarily mean that every > difference > >IS a disability, but that we are still in the > >neanderthal age regarding this - and I'm also not > >saying that disabilities do not exist, but in a > >classroom without the right support for learning > for > >these folks, the difference becomes a > "disability"). > >Thank you for your thoughts, Heidi. > > > > > > > >__________________________________ > >Do you Yahoo!? > >Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site > design software > >http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com > > _________________________________________________________________ > Concerned that messages may bounce because your > Hotmail account has exceeded > its 2MB storage limit? Get Hotmail Extra Storage! > > http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es >
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