Return-Path: <nifl-womenlit@literacy.nifl.gov> Received: from literacy (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by literacy.nifl.gov (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id h24FrHP20441; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 10:53:17 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 10:53:17 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <B24038C0D3E160419E320030D92C22DE010D942A@hobbes.cal.org> Errors-To: alcrsb@langate.gsu.edu Reply-To: nifl-womenlit@literacy.nifl.gov Originator: nifl-womenlit@literacy.nifl.gov Sender: nifl-womenlit@literacy.nifl.gov Precedence: bulk From: "Dora Johnson" <dora@cal.org> To: Multiple recipients of list <nifl-womenlit@literacy.nifl.gov> Subject: [NIFL-WOMENLIT:2525] RE: name of center X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0c -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; Status: O Content-Length: 3255 Lines: 63 In a recent conversation with a staff member from the Office of Vocational and Adult Education, I was told that OVAE now considers "youth" anywhere from 5th grade up to 24. So there is not a difference between a child, a youth, and an adult anymore in the Department of Education's mind. I don't know if this informs some of the discussion, but I think that in its intent to create a seamless education system, the Department of Education is pushing all of us into "mooshing" everybody into one stream. Unfortunately, administrators (i.e. deans) are responding to this push, and I'm not sure that they have much of a choice since the funds that are being made available come with some very specific strings. One very good example of this is NIFL. Its original intent was that it would be focussed on adults. Now it has taken on the entire literacy picture, and if anyone looks at the new board, it's quite clear that adults are now to fit into the K-12 system. It's unfortunate, but unless the adult education field unites and speaks strongly to this unmanageable situation, we are all going to find ourselves in a morass that may be very difficult for us to extricate ourselves from. But I don't think there is anyone in USED who is listening. There is a determination to up end the education system as we have known it, and in my mind, the baby is being thrown out with the bathwater--knowingly! -----Original Message----- From: Daphne Greenberg [mailto:alcdgg@langate.gsu.edu] Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 10:18 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [NIFL-WOMENLIT:2507] RE: name of center Does youth include preschoolers and infants? Actually you raise an interesting question-what age group does the word child imply? What age group does the word youth imply? Daphne Greenberg Associate Director Center for the Study of Adult Literacy MSC 6A0360 Georgia State University 33 Gilmer Street SE Unit 6 Atlanta, GA 30303-3086 phone: 404-651-0127 fax:404-651-4901 dgreenberg@gsu.edu >>> CThomas@uws.org 03/03/03 10:09 AM >>> Daphne, Yes, I think it matters because Lifelong Literacy may be too ambiguous. How about the Center for the Study of Adult and Youth literacy? I believe that "Youth" is more encompassing than "Child." Catherine -----Original Message----- From: nifl-womenlit@nifl.gov [mailto:nifl-womenlit@nifl.gov]On Behalf Of Daphne Greenberg Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 8:48 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [NIFL-WOMENLIT:2504] name of center I would like to invite some feedback over an issue that I am thinking about. Currently, my center is called the Center for the Study of Adult Literacy. The Dean wants the name to be changed to the Center for the Study of Lifelong Literacy. I am worried about losing the word Adult in the title and would like to propose the name: Center for the Study of Adult and Child Literacy. So, which name do you think is better: Center for the Study of Lifelong Literacy or Center for the Study of Adult and Child Literacy Do you think it matters? Why? Thanks! Daphne Greenberg Associate Director Center for the Study of Adult Literacy MSC 6A0360 Georgia State University 33 Gilmer Street SE Unit 6 Atlanta, GA 30303-3086 phone: 404-651-0127 fax:404-651-4901 dgreenberg@gsu.edu
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