As a member of Daphne's list and as the current moderator of the
Poverty, Race, and Literacy list, I have been following this discussion
with much interest.  I posed a similar query to my list to see their
response, and they have not as yet expressed much concern about
consolidating the lists.  I also did the math and figured out that 41 %
of my list are already current members of the Women and Literacy List,
so maybe that is why Poverty/Race list members are not expressing many
concerns. My own impression is that, with Daphne continuing as the
moderator, we will still have her gentle ways of encouraging sharing and
discussion, and I think she will be quite capable of extending her
methods to the enlarged focus of the combined lists while still
specifically encouraging discussion of issues which are primarily
women's issues.  I might be wrong, but I don't anticipate as much
difference between the current Women and Literacy list and the new
combined list as some of you seem to think might occur.  I do think the
current members of the Poverty, Race, and Literacy List will be
sensitive and non-intimidating.  And I think they will enjoy having
Daphne as a moderator.

Donna Brian

-----Original Message-----
From: womenliteracy-bounces at nifl.gov
[mailto:womenliteracy-bounces at nifl.gov] On Behalf Of Barbara Petersohn
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 10:02 AM
To: womenliteracy at nifl.gov
Subject: [WomenLiteracy 614] Re: Update on Women and Literacy list

I am dissapointed that there is not support for individual lists for
these topics because often professionals are trying to focus their
current events awareness through discussion lists like these and want to
target specific topics.  Consolidation of lists creates a flood of
off-topic posts in one's mail box to have to review and delete.

Not that we couldn't learn more from monitoring a variety of lists, it's
just that when scanning several lists, as part of your job or
professional interests, one also also has to spend time to reviewing and
deleting so many additional postings that are not relevant.  

Oh well...
Barbara Petersohn


>>> "Laurie Sheridan" <laurie_sheridan at worlded.org> 10/23/2006 9:13 AM

>>>

I'm in agreement with Ujwala (and others who have expressed
disappointment) about this.   Just seeing the title, "Poverty, Race,
Women and LIteracy" makes it sound a little unfortunate to me, kind of a
catch-all--women's issues aren't ONLY about poverty and race, and
poverty and race aren't ONLY about women.    Well, I'll say it--it
sounds a little like the list for all the "marginalized" folks, lumping
them all together.   I think I, and most of us, use somewhat different
voices and perspectives in talking about women (and as women), and in
talking about poverty and race, even though the overlap is considerable.
   Do we know who uses each list-serv, and was the decision to merge
them based on overlap there?   I am trying to be optimistic that this
will involve a wider group of e-mailers than either list alone, but
something is also going to be lost in the translation. 

I do have great faith that you, Daphne, will be able to keep at least
much of the focus on women, though.  And also on poverty and race!  It
just covers an awful lot, and I hope this listserv continues to be
meaningful on both fronts.

Laurie Sheridan


>>> lalumineuse at yahoo.com 10/23/2006 8:48 AM >>>

I am saddened to see the Women and Literacy list closed. A bit
shortsighted to that, and whilst I am aware that it's women who are the
victims of poverty, merging the two lists will only confuse the issues
further. Is there a way to host the Women and Literacy List elsewhere? 
Ujwala

--- Janet Isserlis <Janet_Isserlis at brown.edu> wrote:


> this is the response I'd sent to the content standards and English 

> language lists; apologies for the cross posting for some

> 

> Aside from the reasons given here, are there other substantive reasons



> for eliminating these two lists?  While their content

> *may* overlap, at times,

> there are also distinct purposes to each, and useful information 

> particular to each exchanged, and - at times - cross posted to various



> other lists.

> 

> I'm very sorry to see these two lists being eliminated.

> 

> Janet Isserlis

> 

> 

> 

> From: Bertha Mo <bertiemo at yahoo.com>

> Reply-To: The Women and Literacy Discussion List 

> <womenliteracy at nifl.gov>

> Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 20:10:36 -0700 (PDT)

> To: The Women and Literacy Discussion List <womenliteracy at nifl.gov>

> Subject: [WomenLiteracy 594] Re: Update on Women and Literacy list

> 

> I'm a bit concerned because I think that different folks subscribe to 

> a list that is women focused.  I'm pretty shy about responding to  

> most lists.  And I've been very encouraged by the gentle support I've 

> received from you and others on the list.

> 

> Best,

> 

> Bertie

> 

> Daphne Greenberg <alcdgg at langate.gsu.edu> wrote:

> >  I am wondering how people on this list feel about

> the merging of the

> > Women and Literacy List with the Poverty, Race,

> and Literacy list? Any

> > reactions? Happiness? Disappointment? Concern?

> Excitement?

> > Daphne

> > 

> >>>> >>> "Nguyen, My Linh"  10/18/06 11:37 AM >>>

> >  Dear Discussion List subscribers,

> > 

> >  As the National Institute for Literacy enters a

> new fiscal year,

> > we

> > have taken steps to streamline the way we deliver

> professional

> > development

> > to our discussion list members. A major change

> that will directly affect

> > you

> > is the merging of the Poverty, Race and Literacy

> List with the Women and

> > Literacy List starting November 6, 2006.

> > 

> >  We will continue to provide access to discussion

> archives on our

> > website.

> > 

> >  We have chosen to combine the two lists because

> we recognize

> > that

> > many of the issues that impact one group also

> affect the other group,

> > and

> >  believe that many of the topics discussed on one

> list can

> > benefit

> > the other list. For that reason, we decided to

> combine the lists to

> > enhance

> >  list members access to the latest ideas and

> information

> > available.

> > Race and gender issues often intersect, and it is

> most both practical

> > and

> >  appropriate to have them intersect on one

> combined list.

> > 

> >  We know that many members of our two lists,

> especially members

> > of

> > our Women's list, view the lists as safe havens

> where issues can be

> > raised

> >  and discussed. We want you to know that we will

> continue to

> > respect

> > your input and will maintain the same high level

> of sensitivity and

> > respect

> >  we have always shown our list members. In

> combining the two

> > lists,

> > Daphne Greenberg will serve as the moderator for

> the new combined list.

> > Her

> > experience with women's literacy has enabled her

> to moderate the women's

> > list with the right balance of sensitivity and

> insight that is necessary

> > for

> > such a list. And we know that in assuming the

> responsibility of the new

> > list, she will bring the same balance to the

> Poverty, Race, Women, and

> > Literacy list. 

> > 

> >  The Institute will be inviting current

> subscribers for both the

> > Poverty, Race Literacy List and the Women and

> Literacy List to the new

> > combined

> >  Poverty, Race, Women and Literacy List.  Once you

> receive the

> > invitation, you will need to confirm your

> subscription to the Poverty,

> >  Race, Women and Literacy List.

> > 

> >  We encourage you to be an active participant in

> the new list by

> > sharing your unique perspectives to help make the

> Poverty, Race, Women

> > and

> >  Literacy List a dynamic resource for information

> and

> > professional

> > development.     

> > 

> > My Linh Nguyen

> > Associate Director of Communications National Institute for Literacy

> > (202) 233-2041

> > fax (202) 233-2050

> > mnguyen at nifl.gov

> > 

> >

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