[NIFL-4EFF:2139] Re: EFF and GED classrooms

From: Eileen Strier (ebstrier@yahoo.com)
Date: Tue Apr 30 2002 - 08:56:52 EDT


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Dear Emily,
I was just reviewing some saved messages and noted
that you taught a GED prep which is two days and
registration.  Do you charge students or is it
funded?? Thanks a million, Eileen
--- Emily McDonald <emilychad@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
>  Hello,
> I teach a GED prep orientation class.  The class is
> a two day orientation and registration.  We pre test
> them, complete all of the forms, and enroll them
> into the appropriate class.  These are the basic
> requirements that I must meet on a weekly basis.  In
> my experience,I have found that just fulfilling the
> basics isn't enough. As well as pre testing, filling
> out forms, etc.,  I introduce goal setting to my
> learners and ask them to take a few minutes on the
> first day to write about their goals and why they
> decided to come back to school.  As a group, I ask
> them to share some of what they decided to write
> about with the class.  Asking them to write about
> their goals is really just the first step to helping
> them get there and helping them see all of the
> connections between their life and education. I also
> think that it is important for them to write about
> their goals so that we can relate what their
> learning and why they are learning it to thier life.
>  I've seen so many learner!
> s get stuck in the detail of their workbooks, or not
> understanding how to do certain math problems. 
> Sometimes they get so stuck in the details that they
> become frustrated - they can't see the forest for
> the trees.Sometimes they don't take the time to
> really stop and think about the whole picture - the
> details are important but how are the details going
> to help me achieve what I want and need to achieve. 
> 
> When they begin the goal setting process, by writing
> about their goals, almost every response that I get
> connects to the EFF role maps and  purposes.  This
> is an easy way into the framework that makes sense
> to learners.  They find it relevant and see how it
> relates to their needs and want. They also see how
> the framework can help them align GED to their life.
>  I explain to them why I like them to write about
> their goals and why it is important that their
> teachers know about their goals, why they decided to
> come back to school, and how they will use what they
> learn in their lives. 
> 
> The next step that our literacy program already does
> is to help them to develop a plan based on their
> goal, once they are assigned to a class.  The
> framework also gives them credit for what they
> already do and builds on it. The teacher would then
> introduce the role maps and standards wheel and ask
> them to identify the standards and activities that
> they want to achieve. Another tool/technique that I
> use is the Five Why's.  When a learner says that
> they want to get their GED, I ask them Why.  The
> theory of the Five Why's is that if you ask the
> learner why, five times, they will give you a
> specific reason/answer in this case for getting
> their GED.Again, their answers connect to the role
> maps and purposes.
> 
> Emily McDonald
> 
> Knox County, TN Adult Education
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   AndresMuro@aol.com wrote: Milly Kuth wrote:
> 
> "With the "new" GED, the emphasis will be on adult
> life skills."
> 
> Really? the new GED that you saw must be different
> from the one that I saw. To me, the new GED looks a
> lot like the old one, but requires students to have
> higher level of academic skills and additional
> knowledge of trivial facts.
> 
> Regarding adult life skills, most of my students
> have excellent such skills, yet nobody credits them
> for this. They are mothers, workers, grandmothers,
> cooks, home care takers, healthcare providers,
> bureaucrats and students. Many of them do all this
> with a lot less money than we have, with limited
> language skills, some, while being abused by
> spouses, etc. Begining this year, instead of
> bringing more speakers from the shelter for battered
> women, the local health clinic, and focus on real
> needs, I am going to have to make sure that they can
> perform more trivial math problems and memorize more
> facts. 
> 
> If we gave credit for adult life skills, my students
> would have Ph.Ds and would be giving classes. 
> 
> Andres
> 
> In a message dated Thu, 24 Jan 2002 5:44:30 PM
> Eastern Standard Time, KUTHFAM@aol.com writes:
> 
> > In a message dated 1/24/2002 11:52:42 AM Eastern
> Standard Time, MWPotts2001@aol.com writes:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > OK, now I can approach this student with the EFF
> Worker Role Map, especially 
> > 
> > the Broad Area of ResponsibilityPlan and Direct
> Personal and Professional 
> > 
> > Growth, more specifically, the Key Activity-Pursue
> work activities that 
> > 
> > provide personal satisfaction and meaning. I can
> lead into a look at the 
> > 
> > Skills Wheel where we can look at the
> Decision-making SkillPlan. We can look 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I'd look at interpersonal skills as way to get and
> keep a job. Do your students work together? help
> each other?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Will he need to learn new skills on the job? (Life
> long learning) If he's delivering pizza, he will
> need to learn the area, and might need to read a
> map. (Donato's Pizza has a big map of Hamilton on
> the wall.) Will he need to learn new skills on the
> job? train someone else?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Will he need to pay bills? make purchases? balance
> a checkbook? read a paycheck stub? read maps? use
> trade skills? (all EFF/GED skills)
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > With the "new" GED, the emphasis will be on adult
> life skills. That sounds pretty compatible with EFF.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > You don't need to trick anyone. Just do what needs
> to be done to prepare for GED test. Then ask if this
> is a skill he'd use in "real life." Virtually all
> are.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Millie Kuth
> > 
> > Hamilton City ABLE
> > 
> > Hamilton OH 45011
> 
> 
> 
> 
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