[NIFL-4EFF:2004] Re: Following up on the five Why's

From: Ann Marie Barter (abarter@windham.k12.me.us)
Date: Mon Jan 28 2002 - 13:12:31 EST


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Hi - This is Ann Marie Barter from Windham Adult Education, Windham, ME and
I have enjoyed this thread of dialogue these last couple weeks.  I have been
particularly intrigued with this 5 Why activity and appreciate having the
explicit outline for giving it a try.  I do all the intake for our (small)
program and one of the questions I ask when a student says they want to get
their GED is this... "How will your life be different once you have your
GED?"  I've never had a student unable to answer it and like the 5 why
sequence, it gets to the heart of the learner and also leads in very nicely
to both the role maps and/or the skills wheel to start the goal-setting
process, which tends to happen more in the learning environment than the
intake meeting in our program.  

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Hi everyone,
 
I had never heard of the five why's, but as I reflect on the goal setting
work I do with students I see that it could take at least five why's to get
to the level where goals are purposeful.  I suspect that after answering why
five times students (and instructors) can easily identify which of the four
purposes identified by EFF have brought them to adult education.  Is goal
setting finished at this point?
 
I'd like to suggest that the next question could be, with EFF Skills Wheel
in hand, "What skills are necessary to achieve that goal?"  Then, "Why do
you feel that skill will be necessary?" Now that student is really in the
thick of  what he needs to know and be able to do in order to reach his
goals.  In addition, you are delving into that student's existing knowledge.
You can now begin to build on that knowledge.
 
I'm wondering how this would look in a GED classroom setting.  How do (or
could) you use the EFF framework and/or tools to help a student meet their
goals while learning GED content?
 
Jenny
 
Jenny Ransone
NIFL-4EFF Discussion List Moderator
jransone2@jcplin.org 

 
 
 
 

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<DIV><SPAN class=090165216-27012002><FONT face=Arial size=2>I had never
heard of 
the five why's, but&nbsp;as I&nbsp;reflect on the goal setting work I do
with 
students I see that it could take at least five why's to&nbsp;get to the
level 
where goals are purposeful.&nbsp; I suspect that after answering why five
times 
students (and instructors) can easily identify which of the four purposes 
identified by EFF have brought them to adult education.&nbsp; Is goal
setting 
finished at this point?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=090165216-27012002><FONT face=Arial 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=090165216-27012002><FONT face=Arial size=2>I'd like to
suggest 
that the next question&nbsp;could be, with EFF Skills W</FONT></SPAN><SPAN 
class=090165216-27012002><FONT face=Arial size=2>heel in hand, "What skills
are 
necessary to achieve that goal?"&nbsp; Then, "Why do you feel&nbsp;that
skill 
will be necessary?"</FONT>&nbsp;<FONT face=Arial size=2>Now that student is 
really in the thick of&nbsp; <EM>what he needs to know and be able to do in 
order to reach his goals.&nbsp; </EM>In addition, you are delving
into&nbsp;that 
studen</FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=090165216-27012002><FONT face=Arial
size=2>t's 
existing knowledge.&nbsp; You can now begin to build on that 
knowledge.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=090165216-27012002><FONT face=Arial size=2>I'm wondering
how 
this would look in a GED classroom setting.&nbsp; How&nbsp;do (or could) you
use 
the EFF framework and/or tools to help a student meet their goals while 
learning&nbsp;GED content?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
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