ZCZC MIATCDAT3 ALL TTAA00 KNHC DDHHMM TROPICAL DEPRESSION EIGHT DISCUSSION NUMBER 2 NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MIAMI FL 11 PM EDT THU SEP 17 1998 CENTER FIXES FROM THE HURRICANE HUNTERS SHOWED A SOUTHWEST MOVEMENT OF ABOUT 5 KT THIS EVENING. THIS MOTION AND THE TRACK OVER THE PAST 24-36 HOURS SUGGEST THAT THE TD IS SLOWLY ORBITING AROUND THE BROADER CYCLONIC CIRCULATION THAT IS CENTERED TO THE SOUTHEAST AND WHICH COVERS MUCH OF THE GULF OF MEXICO. WATER VAPOR IMAGERY CLEARLY DEPICTS THE MID TO UPPER-LEVEL PART OF THAT CIRCULATION CENTERED NEAR 24N90W. THE PRIMARY QUESTION FOR THE TRACK FORECAST IS...AT WHAT POINT AND TIME WILL THE TD BE RELEASED FROM THE GRIP OF THE UPPER LOW? THE 18Z AVN WEAKENS THE UPPER LOW AND MOVES IT TO SE LA BY ABOUT 36 HOURS. THE 12Z NOGAPS OPENS THE LOW NEAR THE TX/LA COAST IN ABOUT 48 HOURS. EITHER OF THESE DEVELOPMENTS WOULD IMPLY THAT A NORTHWARD COMPONENT COULD BE UNDERWAY IN ANOTHER DAY OR SO. HENCE...ALTHOUGH THE TRACK OF THE TD COULD FOLLOW A CUSP OR SMALL CYCLONIC LOOP IN THE INTERIM...THE OFFICIAL FORECAST DOESNT GET SO FANCY. IT SHOWS LITTLE MOVEMENT FOR 12 TO 24 HOURS FOLLOWED BY A GENERAL NORTHWARD OR NORTHEASTWARD HEADING. CONVECTION HAS INCREASED A LITTLE AND A 37 KT WIND WAS REPORTED AT 1500 FEET FROM THE RECON PLANE. HENCE...THE SYSTEM IS APPROACHING TROPICAL STORM STRENGTH AND SOME INTENSIFICATION IS AGAIN FORECAST. RAPPAPORT FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS INITIAL 18/0300Z 26.4N 92.2W 30 KTS 12HR VT 18/1200Z 26.2N 92.3W 35 KTS 24HR VT 19/0000Z 26.6N 92.4W 40 KTS 36HR VT 19/1200Z 27.3N 92.5W 45 KTS 48HR VT 20/0000Z 28.7N 92.3W 50 KTS 72HR VT 21/0000Z 31.5N 90.5W 25 KTS...INLAND NNNN