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                 DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES

 

                UNITED STATES FOOD AND DRUG ADMINISTRATION

 

                 CENTER FOR DRUG EVALUATION AND RESEARCH

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

                PULMONARY-ALLERGY DRUGS ADVISORY COMMITTEE

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

                           Monday, June 6, 2005

 

                                8:00 a.m.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

                            5600 Fishers Lane

                                Room 1066

                           Rockville, Maryland
 

 

 

 

 

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                         P A R T I C I P A N T S

 

       Erik R. Swenson, M.D., Chairman

       Teresa Watkins, R.Ph., Executive Secretary

 

       MEMBERS:

 

       Mark L. Brantly, M.D.

       Steven E. Gay, M.D., M.S.

       I. Marc Moss, M.D.

       Calman P. Prussin, M.D.

       Theodore F. Reiss, M.D., Industry Representative

       Karen Schell, RRT, Consumer Representative

       David A. Schoenfeld, Ph.D.

 

       SGE CONSULTANTS AND GUESTS (VOTING):

 

       Jeffrey S. Barrett, Ph.D.

       Lawrence Hunsicker, M.D.

       Allan R. Sampson, Ph.D.

       Jurgen Venitz, M.D., Ph.D.

       Mary Lou Drittler, SGE Patient Representative

 

       GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES (VOTING):

 

       James Burdick, M.D.

       Roslyn B. Mannon, M.D.

       Michael A. Proschan, Ph.D.

       John Tisdale, M.D.

 

       FDA STAFF:

 

       Mark J. Goldberger, M.D., M.P.H.

       Renata Albrecht, M.D.

       Marc Cavaille-Coll, Ph.D.

       Arturo Hernandez, M.D.

       Jyoti Zalkikar, Ph.D.
 

 

 

 

 

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                             C O N T E N T S

 

       Call to Order and Opening Remarks,

         Erik R. Swenson, M.D.                                    4

 

       Conflict of Interest Statement,

         Teresa A. Watkins, R.Ph.                                 7

 

       FDA Introductory Remarks,

         Renata Albrecht, M.D.                                    8

 

       Sponsor Presentation:

 

          Introduction, Michael Scaife, Ph.D.                    14

 

          Current State of Lung Transplantation,

            Jeffrey Golden, M.D., University of

            California, San Francisco                            20

 

          Clinical Evidence of Efficacy and Safety,

            Sarah Noonberg, M.D., Ph.D.                          28

 

          Statistical Considerations,

            Ronald W. Helms, Ph.D.,

          Rho, Inc.; University of North Carolina                59

 

          Safety and Benefit-Risk,

            Stephen Dilly, M.D., Ph.D.                           65

 

       Questions from the Panel                                  70

 

       FDA Presentation:

 

          Overview of Clinical Trial Efficacy and

            Safety Evaluation Discussion of Analysis,

            Arturo Hernandez, M.D.                               88

 

          Safety Considerations and Conclusions,

          Marc Cavaille-Coll, M.D., Ph.D.                       105

 

          Statistical Evaluation,

            Jyoti Zalkikar, Ph.D.                               111

 

       Questions from the Panel (Continued)                     121
 

 

 

 

 

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                       C O N T E N T S (Continued)

 

       Open Public Hearing:

 

          Esther Suss, Ph.D.                                    151

          John C. Sullivan                                      156

          Bill Stein                                            158

          Renee Moeller                                         162

 

       Charge to the Committee, Renata Albrecht, M.D.           163

 

       Committee Discussion and Vote                            168
 

 

 

 

 

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                          P R O C E E D I N G S

 

                              Call to Order

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  Good morning, everyone.  I

 

       am Dr. Erik Swenson, from the University of

 

       Washington, and I will be chairing this session.

 

       This is the meeting of the Pulmonary and Allergy

 

       Drugs Advisory Committee and today we are going to

 

       be discussing inhaled cyclosporine, a product to be

 

       presented by Chiron.

 

                 Let me begin with just a few items to keep

 

       us on schedule and for organizational purposes.

 

       One, I would request that everyone with cell

 

       phones, please turn them off or at least down to

 

       some vibrating or some innocuous mode.  Then, we

 

       will go around and introduce everyone here at the

 

       table.  I would ask that when you are questioning

 

       anything during this meeting to please identify

 

       yourself first.  The transcriber will need to know

 

       who is speaking.  We have microphones here.  All

 

       you need to do is simply push down "talk" to go

 

       ahead and be heard but, please, turn it off when

 

       you have finished.  If we get more than three
 

 

 

 

 

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       microphones on at one time things get confusing.

 

                 Without any further ado, I am going to

 

       turn the meeting over to Dr. Teresa Watkins for

 

       some introductory comments.

 

                      Introduction of the Committee

 

                 DR. WATKINS:  Let's first go around the

 

       table, starting with Dr. Reiss, if you will

 

       introduce yourself and your affiliations, please?

 

                 DR. REISS:  My name is Ted Reiss.  I am

 

       vice president of clinical research at Merck

 

       Research Labs.  I am the non-voting industry

 

       representative.

 

                 DR. BRANTLY:  My name is Mark Brantly.  I

 

       am from the University of Florida.  I am a

 

       professor of medicine.

 

                 DR. TISDALE:  My name is John Tisdale and

 

       I am in the intramural program of NIDDK.

 

                 DR. PRUSSIN:  My name is Calman Prussin.

 

       I am a clinical investigator with National

 

       Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases.

 

                 DR. MANNON:  I am Roslyn Mannon and I am a

 

       transplant nephrologist and medical director of the
 

 

 

 

 

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       intramural solid organ transplant program at NIDDK.

 

                 DR. GAY:  I am Steven Gay, assistant

 

       professor at the University of Michigan, associate

 

       director of the lung transplant program and

 

       director of clinical support services.

 

                 DR. HUNSICKER:  I am Larry Hunsicker, from

 

       the University of Iowa.  I am a transplant

 

       nephrologist and professor of medicine, and I am a

 

       member of the Chemical Immunosuppression Advisory

 

       Committee but guesting on this one.

 

                 DR. VENITZ:  I am Jurgen Venitz.  I am a

 

       clinical pharmacologist and associate professor at

 

       Virginia Commonwealth University.

 

                 MS. DRITTLER:  I am Mary Lou Drittler.  I

 

       am a  lung transplant recipient and I am a patient

 

       representative from here, in Silver Spring.

 

                 DR. BURDICK:  I am Jim Burdick.  I am

 

       director of the Division of Transplantation and

 

       Healthcare System, HRSA and a transplant surgeon.

 

                 DR. MOSS:  I am Mark Moss.  I am an

 

       associate professor of medicine at Emory University

 

       and section chief at Grady Memorial Hospital.
 

 

 

 

 

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                 DR. BARRETT:  I am Jeff Barrett.  I am a

 

       clinical pharmacologist from the University of

 

       Pennsylvania and Children's Hospital of

 

       Philadelphia.

 

                 DR. PROSCHAN:  I am Mike Proschan and I am

 

       a statistician from the National Heart, Lung and

 

       Blood Institute.

 

                 DR. SCHOENFELD:  I am David Schoenfeld.  I

 

       am a biostatistician and professor of medicine at

 

       Harvard Medical School and Massachusetts General

 

       Hospital.

 

                 DR. SAMPSON:  I am Allan Sampson,

 

       professor of statistics, Department of Statistics

 

       at the University of Pittsburgh.

 

                 MS. SCHELL:  I am Karen Schell.  I am a

 

       respiratory therapist from Emporia Kansas, and I am

 

       the consumer representative.

 

                 DR. CAVAILLE-COLL:  I am Marc

 

       Cavaille-Coll, medical team leader, Division of

 

       Special Pathogen and Immunologic Drug Products.

 

                 DR. ALBRECHT:  I am Renata Albrecht,

 

       director, Division of Special Pathogen and
 

 

 

 

 

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       Immunologic Drug Products.

 

                 DR. HERNANDEZ:  I am Arturo Hernandez, a

 

       medical reviewer for FDA, Division of Special

 

       Pathogens and Immunologic Drug Products, and I am a

 

       transplant surgeon.

 

                      Conflict of Interest Statement

 

                 DR. WATKINS:  With that, thank you.

 

       Welcome everyone.  I am now going to now read the

 

       conflict of interest statement.

 

                 The following announcement addresses the

 

       issue of conflict of interest with regard to this

 

       meeting and is made a part of the record to

 

       preclude even the appearance of such at this

 

       meeting.

 

                 Based on the submitted agenda for the

 

       meeting and all financial interests reported by the

 

       committee participants, it has been determined that

 

       all interests in firms regulated by the Center for

 

       Drug Evaluation and Research present no potential

 

       for an appearance of a conflict of interest at this

 

       meeting.

 

                 With respect to FDA's invited industry
 

 

 

 

 

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       representative, we would like to disclose that Dr.

 

       Theodore Reiss is participating in this meeting as

 

       a non-voting industry representative acting on

 

       behalf of regulated industry.  Dr. Reiss' role on

 

       this committee is to represent industry interests

 

       in general and not any one particular company.  Dr.

 

       Reiss is employed by Merck.

 

                 In the event that the discussions involve

 

       any other products or firms not already on the

 

       agenda for which an FDA participant has a financial

 

       interest, the participants are aware of the need to

 

       exclude themselves from such involvement and their

 

       exclusion will be noted for the record.

 

                 With respect to all other participants, we

 

       ask in the interest of fairness that they address

 

       any current or previous financial involvement with

 

       any firms whose products they may wish to comment

 

       upon.  Thank you.  With that, we will have opening

 

       remarks from Dr. Albrecht.

 

                         FDA Introductory Remarks

 

                 DR. ALBRECHT:  Thank you, Dr. Watkins.

 

       Good morning, everybody.  On behalf of the Division
 

 

 

 

 

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       of Special Pathogen and Immunologic Drug Products

 

       and the Office of Drug Evaluation IV, I would like

 

       to welcome everyone to today's meeting.

 

                 We wish to thank the members of the

 

       Pulmonary Advisory Committee, the Chair, Dr.

 

       Swenson, and our consultants for taking the time

 

       out of their schedules to come to Rockville and

 

       join us here to discuss this application.  I also

 

       wish to express our appreciation to Chiron and the

 

       investigators for the time and effort that they

 

       have put into developing this drug product and to

 

       the Chiron staff for their willingness and

 

       preparation for this advisory committee meeting.  I

 

       would also like to recognize the dedication of the

 

       Division staff and the long hours they have put in

 

       for reviewing this application.

 

                 Let me speak briefly about this new drug

 

       application for cyclosporine inhalational solution

 

       and why we are bringing this application to the

 

       advisory committee.  Could I have someone run the

 

       slides?  I apologize, there are some slides that go

 

       with this presentation so that you may follow
 

 

 

 

 

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       along.

 

                 Let me continue.  There are currently no

 

       FDA-approved products for the prevention of chronic

 

       rejection in patients with lung allografts.  There

 

       are approximately 1100 transplants done in the U.S.

 

       annually and the survival at five years is lower

 

       than survival in other organ transplants such as

 

       heart, kidney or liver transplants.  Prevention of

 

       rejection and increase in survival are critical

 

       and, therefore, there is a clear need for safe and

 

       effective therapy.

 

                 Next slide.  Chiron has submitted the NDA

 

       for Pulminiq and requested that the cyclosporine

 

       inhalational solution be approved for the increase

 

       in survival and prevention of chronic rejection in

 

       lung transplant patients. The drug development

 

       program and the NDA for this product are not

 

       conventional.  Unlike applications for

 

       immunosuppressants in kidney, heart of liver

 

       transplants for example, this NDA contained results

 

       from one single Phase II study conducted at one

 

       center.  This trial enrolled 66 patients out of a
 

 

 

 

 

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       planned 136 patients.  However, we learned that

 

       there was a survival advantage, 88 percent survival

 

       in patients who received aerosolized cyclosporine

 

       plus a tacrolimus-based systemic immunosuppressive

 

       regimen compared to 53 percent survival in patients

 

       receiving aerosolized propylene glycol vehicle in

 

       addition to a tacrolimus-based systemic

 

       immunosuppressive regimen.

 

                 Therefore, the agency agreed to file and

 

       review this NDA application.  Based on the NDA

 

       review of the information in the application, we

 

       were unable to conclude that the observed

 

       difference in survival and chronic rejection was

 

       due to study drug.  Therefore, we determined it was

 

       important to bring this application to the advisory

 

       committee for the following reasons:

 

                 This would represent the first drug for

 

       immunosuppression in patients with lung

 

       transplantation to garner FDA approval.  This is a

 

       new drug application.  Although oral and systemic

 

       cyclosporine are well characterized, cyclosporine

 

       inhalational solution is a new formulation of
 

 

 

 

 

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       cyclosporine.  It is seeking a new indication.  It

 

       is administered by a new route and it requests a

 

       new dosage regimen.  As I mentioned, we weren't

 

       able to conclude that the differences in chronic

 

       rejection and survival were due to the study drug.

 

       For these reasons, we determined it was important

 

       to have this application discussed in an open

 

       public forum.

 

                 We have asked the help of the pulmonary

 

       product advisory committee because it is a standing

 

       committee with expertise in pulmonary disease.  We

 

       have invited experts in statistics and

 

       transplantation to help with the deliberation, and

 

       we are very much interested in the committee's

 

       input regarding the adequacy of the clinical and

 

       statistical evidence whether aerosolized

 

       cyclosporine is safe and effective for the proposed

 

       indication.

 

                 This morning Chiron will present most of

 

       the background information, starting with Dr.

 

       Michael Scaife's presentation on the drug

 

       development program.  Then Dr. Jeff Golden will
 

 

 

 

 

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       provide an overview of lung transplantation.  Dr.

 

       Sarah Noonberg will discuss the results of the

 

       efficacy study, followed by Dr. Steven Dilly's

 

       presentation and Dr. Ron Helms' views.

 

                 The FDA presentation will follow the

 

       Chiron presentations and we will focus on those

 

       areas that proved challenging during the course of

 

       the review.  Dr. Arturo Hernandez will discuss the

 

       study design, various clinical issues and outcome

 

       demographic characteristics and dosing.  Dr. Marc

 

       Cavaille-Coll will provide a summary of the safety

 

       issues and Dr. Jyoti Zalkikar will give the

 

       statistical presentation.

 

                 Then, in the afternoon, we would like you

 

       to discuss, give advice and vote on a few

 

       questions.  So, as you listen to the presentations

 

       this morning, please keep these questions in mind

 

       for later discussion.  The first question:  Is

 

       there sufficient information to make the

 

       determination whether the observed survival

 

       difference in study ACS001 is due to study

 

       treatment or some other factors?
 

 

 

 

 

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                 In your deliberations, we will ask you to

 

       recall the statistical issues that were raised by

 

       the application; differences in baseline donor and

 

       recipient characteristics; whether the product

 

       demonstrated an effect on various clinical outcomes

 

       or things such as acute rejection, bronchiolitis

 

       obliterans syndrome, obliterative bronchiolitis.

 

                 Depending on whether you conclude that the

 

       answer is yes or no, we have a few additional

 

       questions, namely, if the answer is yes we would

 

       like you to talk about the generalizability or,

 

       more specifically, the labeling issues that you

 

       would recommend be put into a product label.  If

 

       the answer is no we would like you to consider what

 

       additional studies you would recommend be

 

       conducted.  In these discussions we would also like

 

       you to give us some suggestions regarding patient

 

       population, drug dosing regimen, as well as

 

       efficacy and endpoints that could be included in

 

       such studies.

 

                 The next question would be whether the

 

       safety of the product has been adequately
 

 

 

 

 

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       characterized for its intended use.  Again, in this

 

       particular question we would like you to also

 

       consider the amount of preclinical and clinical

 

       information that is available in this application;

 

       infection about the cyclosporine and the vehicle,

 

       as well as the number of patients who have been

 

       exposed to the proposed dosage regimen.

 

                 If the answer to this question as well as

 

       the preceding one is yes, then we would like you to

 

       give us suggestions about what population the

 

       product should be labeled for; what information we

 

       should include in labeling on dosing regimen, dose

 

       preparation and administration, dosing intervals

 

       and duration of treatment.  In addition, if you

 

       could give us guidance on what should be included

 

       in the labeling regarding the expected benefit on

 

       acute rejection, BOS, OB and so forth.  If your

 

       answer to the latter question is no, then we would

 

       like you to give us some advice about what

 

       preclinical and clinical information would be

 

       needed.

 

                 With that, thank you and I will turn it
 

 

 

 

 

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       back to Dr. Swenson.

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  Thank you, Dr. Albrecht.  We

 

       will proceed now with the sponsor presentation and

 

       I would like Dr. Michael Scaife to go ahead and

 

       begin this, and I will let him introduce his

 

       colleagues and their different presentations.

 

                           Sponsor Presentation

 

                               Introduction

 

                 DR. SCAIFE:  First of all, good morning,

 

       ladies and gentlemen.  My name is Michael Scaife.

 

       On behalf of Chiron, I would like to thank the FDA

 

       as well as members of the advisory panel for this

 

       opportunity today to present to you on the safety

 

       and efficacy of an inhalable form of cyclosporine

 

       that will be referred to throughout the talk as

 

       either CyIS or the product's trade name, Pulminiq.

 

                 The first point I would like to make is

 

       that currently in the United States there are no

 

       drugs or combination of drug therapies approved for

 

       the treatment of chronic rejection following lung

 

       transplantation.  The prognosis for these patients

 

       is really poor.  Despite aggressive care, only 45
 

 

 

 

 

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       percent of lung transplant recipients will be alive

 

       five years following transplantation.  This is much

 

       worse than for other solid organ transplant

 

       recipients.  This is an orphan population in the

 

       U.S.  On average less than 1100 lung transplants

 

       are performed each year.

 

                 We are here today to talk about certain

 

       aspects of Pulminiq, a medication that is an

 

       aerosolized form of cyclosporine dissolved in an

 

       inert vehicle, propylene glycol.  As you all know,

 

       cyclosporine is not a new chemical entity.

 

       Cyclosporine was approved by the FDA in 1983 and

 

       currently has been approved in most countries of

 

       the world.  It is available in oral, IV and ocular

 

       forms.  In the U.S. it has been approved for the

 

       prophylaxis of allogeneic heart, liver and kidney

 

       graft rejection, and for the treatment of

 

       refractory rheumatoid arthritis and plaque

 

       psoriasis.  In Europe cyclosporine is also approved

 

       for use following bone marrow and pancreatic

 

       transplantation, as well as for a variety of

 

       immune-modulated pathologies such as nephrotic
 

 

 

 

 

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       syndrome, atopic dermatitis and Bessay syndrome.

 

                 Pulminiq is simply an inhalable form of

 

       cyclosporine so, in essence, we are here today to

 

       talk about a well-known drug given by a new route

 

       of administration to enable delivery to the

 

       required site of action.  As I mentioned, Pulminiq

 

       is a simple formulation consisting of cyclosporine

 

       dissolved in propylene glycol, with no other

 

       ingredients.  Propylene glycol is also not new to

 

       pharmaceutics.  Since the initial inhalation tox

 

       studies of propylene glycol in the '40s it has been

 

       widely used as a compounding agent for intravenous

 

       and oral pharmaceuticals, as well as foods.  In

 

       fact, it is currently listed by the FDA as an

 

       approved inactive ingredient for use in inhalation

 

       products.

 

                 Several preclinical inhalation studies

 

       have been performed both with Pulminiq as well as

 

       with the vehicle alone.  Specifically, you will see

 

       in the briefing book that we make mention of two

 

       one-month studies in the rat and the dog and a

 

       three-month study in the rat.  I won't go into the
 

 

 

 

 

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       specific details but, as you will see, doses given

 

       in those animals were in multiples 15, 17 times the

 

       dose that we expected in man.  The

 

       histopathological findings again are detailed in

 

       the book.  You will find that aside from some small

 

       punctate findings in the larynx in a few of the

 

       animals, there were no long-lasting changes and, in

 

       our view, the results are not significant.

 

                 How did Chiron first become aware of the

 

       work on inhalable cyclosporine at the University of

 

       Pittsburgh Medical Center, which we will refer to

 

       from now on as UPMC?  Well, in fact, from a sales

 

       rep who was detailing our inhalable topromycine

 

       product, TOBI, which is used for the treatment of

 

       pseudomonas infections in cystic fibrosis patients.

 

                 The slide here details the development

 

       activities at UPMC.  The preclinical study started

 

       in '88, followed in '91 by human studies in lung

 

       transplant patients with chronic rejection.  In '97

 

       UPMC started a randomized, double-blind,

 

       placebo-controlled study of cyclosporine that ended

 

       in August, 2003.  The results of this and other
 

 

 

 

 

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       studies will form the discussion of today's

 

       meeting.

 

                 You may ask why did Chiron want to acquire

 

       the rights to develop this product.  Well, we

 

       looked at the results of 15 years of work at one of

 

       the largest lung transplant centers in the U.S.  We

 

       asked ourselves the same questions, frankly, and

 

       had the same concerns as anyone would have had.  It

 

       is a single-center study.  It was being conducted

 

       by a single lead investigator.  Has the study been

 

       conducted appropriately?  Are the data robust?  Are

 

       the striking effects seen on survival benefit real?

 

       And, if so, are they due to cyclosporine or some

 

       other factor or factors?

 

                 We did our initial due diligence of the

 

       data and how it had been collected and we concluded

 

       that the effect is real.  Based upon our

 

       conviction, we acquired the right to file an NDA

 

       for the product.  As you know, the FDA encourages

 

       the filing of applications for products that

 

       address a clear unmet medical need with a

 

       demonstrated significant clinical benefit and an
 

 

 

 

 

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       acceptable safety profile.  We went to UPMC and we

 

       extensively audited the hospital records.  We went

 

       in and we collected all of these data on

 

       standardized forms, and we analyzed the data in

 

       every possible manner, as you will hear later.

 

                 In may, 2004 we met with the FDA.  We

 

       posed a very simple question, would the agency

 

       consider the positive findings from one clinical

 

       study, conducted by one principal investigator to

 

       be registerable?  The FDA response, and I think Dr.

 

       Albrecht referred to it so she will forgive me for

 

       paraphrasing I hope, was assuming that the data are

 

       robust--and I happily stress the word "robust"--we

 

       encourage you to file.  It is rare for us at the

 

       FDA to be provided with significant survival data

 

       for such a product.  Based upon this positive

 

       meeting, Chiron filed an NDA for Pulminiq in

 

       October, 2004.

 

                 I would like to acknowledge the

 

       collaborative position taken by the FDA throughout

 

       the NDA process.  We have been encouraged to

 

       maintain a dialogue with the reviewers and it is in
 

 

 

 

 

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       this spirit that we are here today.

 

                 The finding was accepted by the FDA and

 

       priority review status was granted in December,

 

       2004.  Ladies and gentlemen, Chiron is here today

 

       because we believe the data on survival benefit are

 

       real and clinically relevant, as well as

 

       statistically significant.  We will present data

 

       that confirm that CyIS is safe and efficacious for

 

       the requested indication, which is to increase the

 

       survival and prevent chronic rejection in patients

 

       receiving allogeneic lung transplants in

 

       combination with standard chronic immunosuppressive

 

       therapy.

 

                 With that, I would like to introduce to

 

       the panel and the audience the agenda for the

 

       Chiron presentation as well as the speakers, their

 

       background and affiliation.  The first speaker is

 

       Dr. Jeff Golden who is professor of clinical

 

       medicine and surgery at the University of

 

       California in San Francisco.  Dr. Golden is also

 

       the medical director of the lung transplant program

 

       at UCSF.
 

 

 

 

 

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                 We have asked Dr. Golden to speak to you

 

       today for two main reasons, firstly, because he is

 

       an eminent practicing physician and scientist who

 

       actually treats and cares for lung transplant

 

       patients, as well as being an active researcher

 

       into the mechanisms of acute and chronic lung

 

       rejection phenomena.  Secondly, because he was not

 

       involved in the study and we wanted his independent

 

       views on the clinical findings.  Dr. Golden will

 

       address the current status of lung transplantation.

 

                 He will be followed by Dr. Sarah Noonberg

 

       who is the clinical leader at Chiron for this

 

       project.  Dr. Noonberg will present to you the

 

       clinical evidence for the efficacy and safety of

 

       CyIS.

 

                 Dr. Noonberg will be followed by Dr. Ron

 

       Helms, an emeritus professor of statistics at the

 

       University of North Carolina.  Why did we ask him

 

       to be here today?  As statisticians and physicians

 

       have analyzed the data from every possible angle

 

       and found the positive effect of Pulminiq on

 

       survival to be clinically as well as statistically
 

 

 

 

 

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       robust, the  FDA statisticians expressed some

 

       concerns about our analyses and so we asked Prof.

 

       Helms to look at our approaches, assumptions and

 

       methodologies, as well as those of the FDA

 

       reviewers, and to let us have his candid opinion.

 

       He will share those views with you today.

 

                 The final presentation by Chiron will be

 

       given by Dr. Stephen Dilly.  He is the chief

 

       medical officer for Chiron BioPharmaceuticals.  He

 

       will review the case for approval of Pulminiq

 

       including a discussion of our proposed postapproval

 

       study.  We will then hand over the meeting to the

 

       Q&A session that will be moderated by myself.

 

                 Finally, we have a list of additional

 

       experts, both internal and external.  I would like

 

       to make the special point that we have the pleasure

 

       of having Dr. Trulock here who is a world renowned

 

       expert on lung transplantation and, again, as you

 

       know, you are free to ask any of our experts for

 

       additional information.  With that, I would like to

 

       hand over to Dr. Golden.  Thank you very much.

 

                  Current State of Lung Transplantation
 

 

 

 

 

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                 DR. GOLDEN:  Thanks.  I am extremely

 

       delighted to be here as somebody who takes care of

 

       patients after transplantation.  I am here really

 

       to give an overview of the current state of lung

 

       transplant.

 

                 Just a brief statement about myself, about

 

       15 years ago I helped start a lung transplant

 

       program at the University of California in San

 

       Francisco.  In the past few years we have been

 

       doing about 30 transplants a year, and this year we

 

       are on a pace for 40 transplants.  Just to give you

 

       a perspective, this puts us in about the top 10

 

       percent in terms of volume of annual transplants in

 

       the world.

 

                 About two years ago I was asked to visit

 

       Chiron and give a review of lung transplant.  At

 

       that time I was first shown some data from the

 

       University of Pittsburgh on aerosolized

 

       cyclosporine.  Subsequently, as some of you may

 

       know, I did attend the first FDA meeting in 2004

 

       where I similarly presented an overview of lung

 

       transplant.  Well, I am back and actually nothing
 

 

 

 

 

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       has changed.

 

                 I would like to summarize on the next

 

       slide the main points in terms of where we are in

 

       lung transplant.  First, the long-term survival of

 

       lung transplant is 50 percent by five years.  This

 

       is a poor survival.  Second, bronchiolitis

 

       obliterans, or chronic rejection, is the primary

 

       cause of this poor survival.  Third, the future of

 

       lung transplant really demands that we learn how to

 

       prevent bronchiolitis obliterans.

 

                 By way of history, before cyclosporine

 

       there had been approximately 40 lung transplants in

 

       the world.  Looking at their survival, the median

 

       survival was somewhere around 10 days.  One patient

 

       lived 10 months.  After the introduction of

 

       cyclosporine there were one-year survivals, such

 

       that eventually there was 75 percent one-year

 

       survival in lung transplant.  With this large

 

       improvement compared to the pre-cyclosporine era,

 

       the interest in lung transplant really took off.

 

                 As you can see from this slide, early on

 

       in 1985 there were about a dozen transplants and as
 

 

 

 

 

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       of 2003 there are somewhere around 1700 transplants

 

       in the world, about 1100 in the United States.

 

       These are done for various recipient categories you

 

       see listed here.  Approximately half are for

 

       emphysema or alpha-1 antitrypsin deficiency, cystic

 

       fibrosis, and another large area is idiopathic

 

       pulmonary fibrosis.  Although in this registry

 

       analysis it is 17 percent, at UCSF 60 percent of

 

       our lung transplant patients have idiopathic

 

       pulmonary fibrosis, a disease for which there is no

 

       therapy and a disease that has a five-year

 

       survival, somewhat similar to lung cancer.

 

                 However, despite this increased one-year

 

       survival and this tremendous increase in the number

 

       of transplants done around the world, we are,

 

       unfortunately, still stuck at a low 50 percent

 

       survival of around 4.5 to 5 years.  Although one

 

       might say emphysema has a slightly better outlook

 

       at 4 and 5 years than idiopathic pulmonary

 

       fibrosis, in general lung transplant survival is

 

       about 50 percent at 4.5 to 5 years.

 

                 To give you some perspective, if you look
 

 

 

 

 

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       at kidney transplant at that interval of 4.5 years

 

       after transplant there is 90 percent survival.  And

 

       if you look at heart and liver transplant it is

 

       about 75 percent survival.  Not only do we have

 

       this 50 percent survival at 4 to 5 years, but this

 

       has not changed in almost 20 years.  We have

 

       plateau'd in terms of poor survival in that period

 

       of time.

 

                 As I say, the problem responsible for this

 

       poor mortality clearly is bronchiolitis obliterans.

 

       In this histology section, with an artery here, the

 

       obliterative lesion that is established as a

 

       fibroplastic plug diminishes the airway diameter

 

       such that, instead of being this size, it is

 

       reduced and constricted down to this tiny lumen

 

       here secondary to this fibroproliferative process

 

       of the lesion of bronchiolitis obliterans.

 

                 Bronchiolitis obliterans or chronic

 

       rejection is diagnosed in two ways, histologically

 

       through a transbronchial biopsy or clinically.  The

 

       problem with the histologic diagnosis of a

 

       transbronchial biopsy is that it is a specific
 

 

 

 

 

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       finding but it is not very sensitive.

 

       Transbronchial biopsy is simply not sensitive

 

       sufficiently to diagnose this chronic airway

 

       process.  Therefore, over the years we have

 

       developed a clinical diagnosis in the absence of a

 

       histologic finding on the transbronchial biopsy

 

       such that we look at specific decrease in air flow

 

       when there is no alternative cause, and we label

 

       this bronchiolitis obliterans syndrome.

 

                 It is important to stress that

 

       obliterative bronchiolitis and bronchiolitis

 

       obliterans syndrome, or BOS, are really histologic

 

       and clinical manifestations of the same airway

 

       process.  Patients develop progressive shortness of

 

       breath with this graft failure, progressive airflow

 

       obstruction and recurrent pulmonary infections.

 

       Regrettably, once this chronic rejection develops

 

       the airway damage is progressive and irreversible

 

       and patients die of graft failure and related

 

       infections.

 

                 The registry for transplant would say that

 

       somewhere around 5 years the percent of patients
 

 

 

 

 

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       dying from different etiologies would be

 

       bronchiolitis obliterans about 30 percent, but

 

       actually you cannot separate this from infections

 

       which are always present in the setting of this

 

       airway damage.  Furthermore, in this registry

 

       setting where they describe organ failure, that is

 

       obviously bronchiolitis obliterans.  So, when you

 

       add up these categories of bronchiolitis obliterans

 

       organ failure and related airway infections,

 

       including pseudomonas, aspergillus, etc., let me

 

       simply state that bronchiolitis obliterans

 

       complications relate to the vast majority of deaths

 

       at 4.5 to 5 years after lung transplantation.

 

                 No matter what we have done in the last 18

 

       years, we have not prevented this development of

 

       chronic rejection, this airway process, whether we

 

       give tacrolimus, different combinations of

 

       cyclosporine, micofenolate, azathioprine,

 

       prednisone and, in fact, I could put rapomyacin up

 

       there and various other lytic therapies and various

 

       approaches to prednisone pulses for acute

 

       rejection, etc.  Despite all this systemic
 

 

 

 

 

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       immunosuppression, we really have not changed the

 

       incidence of chronic airway rejection closely

 

       related, unfortunately, to the poor survival at 4.5

 

       to 5 years.

 

                 We now appreciate that there are

 

       non-immune factors that relate to airway damage, be

 

       these infection or reflux disease.  These

 

       non-alloimmune factors clearly relate to immune

 

       activation.  In fact, I believe we are now

 

       understanding that when we see chronic airway

 

       rejection and we increase systemic

 

       immunosuppression we actually are helping to

 

       promote such non-alloimmune factors, especially

 

       infections which cause further airway immune

 

       activation and actually make the process worse.

 

                 We have always known that there are

 

       alloimmune factors such as acute rejection that

 

       relate to damage of the organ.  We are now

 

       appreciating these non-alloimmune factors, again,

 

       be it early airway damage with transplant, various

 

       infections, reflux disease which is a very new

 

       concept in terms of what injures the airway--that
 

 

 

 

 

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       these non-alloimmune stimuli, in consort with

 

       alloimmune rejection, together damage the graft

 

       leading to progressive, additive epithelial injury,

 

       inflammation and fibroblastic repair culminating in

 

       the picture I showed you of bronchiolitis

 

       obliterans.

 

                 One newer concept in terms of immune

 

       factors is called lymphocytic

 

       bronchitis/bronchiolitis.  One might call it airway

 

       rejection.  This histology reveals lymphocytic

 

       bronchitis/bronchiolitis and airway disease wherein

 

       you have submucosal lymphocytes working their way

 

       into the mucosa.  Let me point out that lymphocytic

 

       bronchitis/bronchiolitis has been highly related to

 

       the subsequent development of the more fibrotic

 

       bronchiolitis obliterans.  This concept of an

 

       airway inflammation based on immune reaction in the

 

       airway, lymphocytic bronchitis, was not on the

 

       radar screen 15 years ago when the concept of

 

       inhaled cyclosporine was conceived.

 

                 We have always known that acute rejection

 

       is one of the factors that relates to the
 

 

 

 

 

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       subsequent development of bronchiolitis obliterans.

 

       However, I want to separate out the airway process

 

       from acute rejection which is a perivascular

 

       process diagnosed by transbronchial biopsy.  I

 

       should emphasize that a transbronchial biopsy has

 

       variable adequacy for obtaining small airway

 

       samples to diagnose whether it is bronchiolitis

 

       obliterans or the early airway inflammation of

 

       lymphocytic bronchitis.

 

                 If I was designing a study today of any

 

       inhaled immunosuppressant therapy I would try to

 

       learn more about the biology of the airways.  We,

 

       at UCSF, and some other institutions have been

 

       doing endobronchial biopsy.  This is not standard

 

       but we are learning a lot more about the airway

 

       biology in terms of lung transplantation.

 

                 On my last slide I want to just emphasize

 

       that although I might expect systemic

 

       immunosuppression to clear up a perivascular

 

       process, I am suggesting that bronchiolitis

 

       obliterans, chronic rejection, is an airway process

 

       and it makes eminent sense to employ inhaled
 

 

 

 

 

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       cyclosporine to treat the epithelium.  It is clear

 

       now that the epithelium is key to the development

 

       of bronchiolitis obliterans.  Bronchiolitis

 

       obliterans is an airway disease.

 

                 Just to finish, my colleagues in the lung

 

       transplant world are very excited about the

 

       potential benefit of inhaled cyclosporine.  As I

 

       say, the epithelium is key and it makes eminent

 

       sense to develop a system of local immune

 

       suppression to the airway and the mucosa.  Frankly,

 

       given the poor survival of our transplant

 

       recipients which, as I already mentioned, has not

 

       changed in almost 20 years, I personally feel that

 

       inhaled cyclosporine fulfills an unmet need.

 

                 I questioned whether I was going to say

 

       the following but I think I will.  On a personal

 

       note, for people like myself who take care of these

 

       patients, who see them terribly short of breath in

 

       various diagnostic categories who go on to have a

 

       lung transplant and then regain a normal life,

 

       including family life, going back to work--to all

 

       of a sudden see these patients once again slowly
 

 

 

 

 

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       develop progressive airway rejection, chronic

 

       rejection and shortness of breath is extremely

 

       disheartening to the patients, to say the least,

 

       their family and, frankly, for their physicians.

 

       Thank you for your attention.

 

                 Clinical Evidence of Efficacy and Safety

 

                 DR. NOONBERG:  Good morning.  My name is

 

       Sarah Noonberg and I am the clinical leader for the

 

       inhaled cyclosporine project.  Over the next 45

 

       minutes I will be reviewing the clinical data

 

       supporting the use of inhaled cyclosporine in lung

 

       transplant recipients.

 

                 I will begin with a brief discussion of

 

       early preclinical and open-label clinical trials of

 

       inhaled cyclosporine at UPMC.  These trials

 

       generated a lot of interest in inhaled cyclosporine

 

       and really set the stage for the pivotal

 

       randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled trial

 

       which we, at Chiron, refer to as ACS001.

 

                 I will then describe the study design and

 

       baseline characteristics of patients in ACS001

 

       before moving into a discussion of efficacy,
 

 

 

 

 

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       focusing primarily on the endpoints of survival and

 

       chronic rejection.  I will then switch gears and

 

       summarize the safety data that has been generated

 

       for inhaled cyclosporine from a safety database of

 

       102 patients.  Although the favorable safety

 

       profile is clearly an important aspect of the drug,

 

       I am going to be spending much less time reviewing

 

       safety listings as this is an area of general

 

       agreement with the FDA.

 

                 Finally, as with all studies, there are

 

       limitations to ACS001 both with respect to study

 

       design, as well as choice of the primary endpoint.

 

       I am going to end this presentation with a

 

       discussion of some of those limitations and how we

 

       view them in light of the clear strengths of the

 

       study.

 

                 As Dr. Golden has described, the

 

       introduction of cyclosporine as an

 

       immunosuppressant truly revolutionized lung

 

       transplantation and allowed for the possibility of

 

       long-term survival.  Within a few years of FDA

 

       approval investigators at UPMC began to develop an
 

 

 

 

 

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       aerosolized formulation, and within five years they

 

       initiated preclinical trials.

 

                 In the first set of experiments

 

       non-transplanted dogs were given a single dose of

 

       inhaled cyclosporine.  The dose was well tolerated

 

       and revealed that pulmonary concentrations were

 

       10- to 100-fold higher than concentrations in other

 

       tissues.  In addition, there was no change in lung

 

       function and no histologic abnormalities.

 

                 In a canine lung transplant model dogs

 

       were given single agent immunosuppression with

 

       inhaled cyclosporine and investigators reported a

 

       dose-dependent decrease in the frequency and

 

       severity of allograft rejection.

 

                 In a rat transplant model rats were given

 

       an identical dose of either inhaled cyclosporine or

 

       intramuscular cyclosporine.  Inhaled cyclosporine

 

       was found to be at least as effective as

 

       intramuscular cyclosporine in causing a

 

       dose-dependent decrease in proinflammatory cytokine

 

       production, as well as a decrease in allograft

 

       rejection but with far lower systemic exposure to
 

 

 

 

 

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       cyclosporine.

 

                 These encouraging preclinical results led

 

       to the development of a series of open-label

 

       non-comparative trials with inhaled cyclosporine at

 

       UPMC.  These trials enrolled two different groups

 

       of patients, both with established complications of

 

       lung transplantation.  In the first set of

 

       protocols lung transplant recipients with

 

       documented chronic rejection were given inhaled

 

       cyclosporine in addition to their standard

 

       immunosuppressive regimen.  Investigators reported

 

       improvement in rejection histology and

 

       stabilization of pulmonary function relative to

 

       pre-enrollment data.  But, more importantly, these

 

       patients had improved survival both compared to

 

       contemporary UPMC unenrolled controls as well as

 

       controls from a historical lung transplant

 

       registry.

 

                 In the next set of protocols patients with

 

       refractory acute rejection, defined as acute

 

       rejection that failed to respond to

 

       immunosuppressive intensification--this represents
 

 

 

 

 

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       a step earlier in the disease process as acute

 

       rejection--as a risk factor for the subsequent

 

       development of chronic rejection and was the

 

       logical next population to study.  When these

 

       patients were given inhaled cyclosporine, again, in

 

       addition to their standard immunosuppressive

 

       regimen, investigators reported an improvement in

 

       rejection histology, a reduction in proinflammatory

 

       cytokine production, and a dose-dependent increase

 

       in pulmonary function, all relative to

 

       re-enrollment data.  Once again, these patients had

 

       improved survival compared to contemporary UPMC

 

       unenrolled controls.

 

                 Despite the non-comparative nature of

 

       these trials and their inherent limitations, they

 

       made quite an impact in the transplant community,

 

       and have led to unregulated compounding of inhaled

 

       cyclosporine by a number of U.S. transplant

 

       centers.  In a survey of 2002, published in Chest,

 

       of transplant practices 10 percent of U.S.

 

       transplant centers already used inhaled

 

       cyclosporine.  They compound it in their pharmacies
 

 

 

 

 

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       and they give it to patients with progressive

 

       chronic rejection.

 

                 These open-label trials were clearly

 

       provocative but their interpretation is limited by

 

       the lack of an adequate control group.  However,

 

       they laid the framework for the very first and one

 

       of the only randomized, double-blind,

 

       placebo-controlled trials in the lung transplant

 

       population.  Unlike the previous protocols that

 

       enrolled patients with established complications of

 

       lung transplantation, this trial was designed to

 

       test the efficacy of inhaled cyclosporine in

 

       preventing rejection and improving outcomes when

 

       given prophylactically to patients shortly after

 

       their single or double lung transplant procedure.

 

                 The trial had two phases.  In a pilot

 

       phase, the first phase, 10 patients were given

 

       open-label inhaled cyclosporine and were followed

 

       prospectively.  They formed a cohort designed to

 

       test the safety and tolerability of the drug in

 

       this patient population.  In the second phase, the

 

       randomized phase, 58 patients were randomized and
 

 

 

 

 

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       56 were randomized and treated with either inhaled

 

       cyclosporine or placebo, which in this case was

 

       inhaled propylene glycol, the vehicle used to

 

       create the inhalation solution.  The primary

 

       endpoint of the study was rate of acute rejection,

 

       and secondary, prospectively defined endpoints of

 

       survival, rate of chronic rejection and pulmonary

 

       function.

 

                 The criteria for enrollment into ACS001

 

       were fairly straightforward.  To be included, you

 

       had to be a recipient of a single or double lung

 

       transplant and be 18 years of age or older.

 

       Exclusion criteria included the presence of active

 

       fungal or bacterial pneumonia or anastomotic

 

       infections prior to the initiation of appropriate

 

       antimicrobial therapy.  Patients with bronchial

 

       stenosis greater than 80 percent had to be treated

 

       with standard techniques prior to enrollment.

 

       Patients who failed to wean from mechanical

 

       ventilation and women of childbearing potential

 

       unwilling to use birth control were also excluded.

 

       It is important to note that all patients met study
 

 

 

 

 

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       inclusion and exclusion criteria.

 

                 All patients in ACS001 were treated with

 

       standard-of-care immunosuppressive therapy

 

       following transplantation, and all were randomized

 

       and enrolled within the first 7-42 days following

 

       their transplant surgery.  A total of 26 patients

 

       were treated with inhaled cyclosporine and 30 were

 

       treated with placebo.  All patients underwent an

 

       initial 10-day dose escalation period where they

 

       were initiated on low dose inhaled cyclosporine at

 

       100 mg, and that dose or equivalent volume of

 

       placebo was gradually increased to a maximally

 

       tolerated dose up to a protocol-specified maximum

 

       of 300 mg.  The dose or equivalent volume that they

 

       reached on day 10 was the dose that they continued

 

       3 times a week for a period of 2 years.

 

                 After completion of dosing patients

 

       continued to be followed for study endpoints up to

 

       the study end date of August 21, 2003.  This

 

       corresponded to 2 years after the last patient was

 

       enrolled and, therefore, could complete their

 

       2-year period of dosing.  Therefore, the total
 

 

 

 

 

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       length of follow-up per patient depended on the

 

       timing of enrollment and ranged from 24 months for

 

       the last patient enrolled up through 56 months for

 

       the first patient enrolled.

 

                 ACS001 was a randomized trial, and the

 

       randomization scheme was developed by the

 

       Department of Statistics at the University of

 

       Pittsburgh.  The randomization was stratified by

 

       CMV mismatch, defined as donor positive/recipient

 

       negative, versus all other combinations.  This was

 

       chosen because international registry data has

 

       demonstrated that patients with CMV mismatch have a

 

       32 percent increased relative risk of death in the

 

       first year compared with other combinations, with a

 

       p value of less than 0.0001.  Therefore, the

 

       assertion that the randomization was not stratified

 

       by any variables known to affect outcome is

 

       incorrect.  The randomization was also stratified

 

       by enrollment period and distinguishes patients who

 

       generally had a less complicated postoperative

 

       course, were stable and met exclusion criteria by

 

       7-21 days versus those that had a relatively more
 

 

 

 

 

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       complicated postoperative course and met exclusion

 

       criteria and were stable between 22 and 42 days

 

       after the surgery.  In line with ICH guidelines, it

 

       is impractical and often counterproductive to

 

       stratify by more than 2 factors in a study of this

 

       size.

 

                 This slide illustrates the baseline

 

       characteristics of patients enrolled in ACS001.

 

       Overall, the two groups were well matched with

 

       respect to the majority of relevant baseline

 

       demographic characteristics.  Donors were similarly

 

       well matched for clinically relevant variables.

 

       However, as can be expected from any randomized

 

       study, there were a few important imbalances.  The

 

       two variables where clinically relevant imbalances

 

       existed were with respect to primary diagnosis and

 

       transplant type.

 

                 As Dr. Golden has demonstrated, the

 

       primary diagnosis leading to transplantation can

 

       have an important impact on survival.  Patients

 

       with COPD have traditionally been associated with

 

       better outcomes, especially within the first year,
 

 

 

 

 

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       and this is statistically significant.  Nearly

 

       twice as many placebo patients had this more

 

       favorable diagnosis.  In addition, patients with

 

       idiopathic pulmonary fibrosis or IPF have

 

       historically had among the worst survival, both

 

       short-term and long-term, and this is statistically

 

       significant at one year and at five years, and

 

       there were far more patients with IPF in the

 

       inhaled cyclosporine group compared to placebo.

 

       Both of these factors together could potentially

 

       bias results for better outcomes in the placebo

 

       group.

 

                 By contrast, double lung transplant

 

       recipients have historically had marginally

 

       improved survival compared to single lung

 

       transplant recipients in the first several years,

 

       and this difference becomes increasingly pronounced

 

       with time but is not statistically significant at

 

       one year or at five years, the time period of

 

       interest for ACS001.  However, there were more

 

       double lung transplant recipients in the inhaled

 

       cyclosporine group and this could potentially bias
 

 

 

 

 

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       results towards better outcomes in the inhaled

 

       cyclosporine group.  Therefore, although imbalances

 

       exist, they are split between groups and would not

 

       be expected to strongly influence results in one

 

       direction or the other.

 

                 The protocol specified that patients were

 

       to continue study drug for a period of two years.

 

       However, due to the nature of the patient

 

       population with its high mortality rate, frequent

 

       complications and frequent hospitalizations, not

 

       all patients could complete the two-year period of

 

       dosing and this is not surprising.  Roughly

 

       two-thirds completed at least one year of therapy

 

       and roughly half completed the full two years of

 

       therapy.  As the protocol specified that dosing

 

       should be held temporarily in the presence of an

 

       infection not responding to treatment, not all

 

       patients had each and every one of their scheduled

 

       doses.  However, this just reflects the protocol

 

       rather than any lack of compliance.

 

                 The median duration of dosing was

 

       comparable among the two groups.  Of the patients
 

 

 

 

 

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       that did prematurely discontinue dosing, the

 

       primary reasons were adverse events in the placebo

 

       group and withdrawal of consent in the inhaled

 

       cyclosporine group.  Of the six who withdrew

 

       consent, two were due to early tolerability

 

       problems; two were primarily due to unrelated

 

       medical problems; and one was due primarily to an

 

       unrelated social problem and for one the reason was

 

       unknown.

 

                 Although no patients were lost to

 

       follow-up, five patients, three in the inhaled

 

       cyclosporine group and one in the placebo group,

 

       were taken off the study, the randomized trial, and

 

       crossed over into an open-label rescue protocol of

 

       inhaled cyclosporine.  Their data was censored at

 

       the time of crossover and the treatment groups

 

       remained blinded.  In both groups there were

 

       patients that were withdrawn due to protocol

 

       deviations and violations that largely included

 

       medical non-compliance and smoking.

 

                 This slide summarizes the important

 

       efficacy and safety results from study ACS001. 
 

 

 

 

 

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       Treatment with inhaled cyclosporine led to

 

       significantly improved survival and chronic

 

       rejection-free survival compared to placebo but did

 

       not affect the rate of acute rejection.  Treatment

 

       with inhaled cyclosporine was not associated with

 

       increased risk of nephrotoxicity, infections,

 

       malignancies or any systemic toxicities known to

 

       occur when cyclosporine is given orally or

 

       intravenously.  However, similar to other inhaled

 

       drugs, inhaled cyclosporine was associated with

 

       mild to moderate respiratory tract irritation and

 

       bronchospasm.

 

                 I will first discuss the effect of inhaled

 

       cyclosporine on survival.  Using an unadjusted

 

       analysis, inhaled cyclosporine was associated with

 

       a significant survival advantage compared to

 

       placebo, with a relative risk of death of 0.213 and

 

       a p value of 0.007.  This corresponds to a 79

 

       percent decreased risk of death in patients treated

 

       with inhaled cyclosporine compared to placebo.

 

       This slide is the Kaplan-Meier plot of survival

 

       duration from the time of transplantation to the
 

 

 

 

 

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       study end date, and is the primary reason that we

 

       are all here today.

 

                 During the period of the study there were

 

       3 deaths in the inhaled cyclosporine group compared

 

       to 14 deaths in the placebo group.  The results are

 

       not only highly statistically significant but also

 

       clinically very important.  This is the first time

 

       a cohort of lung transplant recipients has had

 

       survival comparable to recipients of other solid

 

       organ transplants and marks a major advance in

 

       outcomes for this patient population.

 

                 The importance of an unadjusted analysis

 

       rests on its robustness and how well it compares to

 

       analyses that control for other baseline

 

       characteristics that might affect outcome.

 

       Therefore, we performed univariate analyses

 

       adjusting for potential risk factors that might

 

       affect survival, and found that the relative risk

 

       of death and the p values were remarkably

 

       consistent.

 

                 This graph illustrates the relative risk

 

       of death and 95 confidence intervals when the
 

 

 

 

 

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       survival data is adjusted by a number of different

 

       factors that have been documented in the literature

 

       to potentially affect outcome.  We also include two

 

       factors suggested by the FDA, ICU time after

 

       transplantation and the use of donors who at some

 

       point during their hospitalization prior to

 

       harvesting were treated with an inotrope.  Neither

 

       of these two factors is supported by the literature

 

       or registry data as having an impact on survival.

 

       For the case of donor inotrope use, it is not

 

       considered in guidelines for optimal donors or

 

       marginal donors.  However, the key message is that

 

       regardless of the baseline characteristic none of

 

       these factors appreciably impacts the relative risk

 

       of death and lends strong support to the validity

 

       of the unadjusted analysis, and this is what is

 

       meant by a robust endpoint.

 

                 In order to further test the robustness of

 

       the survival endpoint, we performed multivariate

 

       analyses which adjust for clinically relevant

 

       baseline characteristics simultaneously.  As not

 

       all characteristics can ever be simultaneously
 

 

 

 

 

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       input into a single statistical model, the job of

 

       the clinician is to decide which of these are the

 

       most clinically relevant.

 

                 In order to determine the most clinically

 

       relevant factors we searched through the literature

 

       to determine those that had been documented to be

 

       short-term or long-term prognostic factors.  We

 

       then reviewed registry data to determine the level

 

       of significance and, finally, we discussed these

 

       factors with transplant physicians who care for

 

       these patients.  The general agreement was that the

 

       most clinically relevant factors were transplant

 

       type, CMV mismatch, primary diagnosis, early acute

 

       rejection--all shown in green.  We also include in

 

       our model the variable of enrollment period as this

 

       was a randomization stratification variable and it

 

       is in accordance with ICH guidelines.

 

                 This slide also illustrates the relative

 

       distribution of 16 different baseline

 

       characteristics that have been documented in the

 

       literature to potentially affect short-term or

 

       long-term outcome.  As is evident, the majority are
 

 

 

 

 

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       balanced or, if anything, would favor better

 

       outcomes in the placebo group.

 

                 This slide illustrates the results of the

 

       multivariate analyses when these factors are

 

       successively added into a Cox proportional hazards

 

       model.  The key point is the consistency of the

 

       treatment effect.  The addition of the five most

 

       clinically relevant factors into this study does

 

       not have any appreciable impact on the relative

 

       risk of death or the p values, and provides even

 

       further support for the robustness of the survival

 

       endpoint.

 

                 Robustness was further evaluated by

 

       performing a number of sensitivity analyses around

 

       the survival endpoint.  When we did so, we found

 

       that the relative risk of death remained

 

       consistent.  The top row illustrates the unadjusted

 

       analysis on the full data set.  When we include

 

       patients who were randomized and treated the

 

       results are essentially unchanged.  When we look at

 

       survival relative to first dose of study drug

 

       rather than time of transplantation, again the
 

 

 

 

 

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       results are essentially unchanged.  When we exclude

 

       three placebo patients who had early mortality and

 

       died within the first three months--when we just

 

       take them out of the analysis and we only analyze

 

       the remaining 27, it remains statistically

 

       significant.  When we take out 14 patients who did

 

       not receive at least 80 percent of the protocol

 

       maximum dosing adjusted for death, we lose 25

 

       percent of the sample size but still maintain

 

       statistical significance and the relative risk of

 

       death is barely altered.

 

                 The FDA has raised concern about the

 

       effects of early pneumonia.  So, if we remove from

 

       analysis 15 patients who had an episode of

 

       pneumonia within one month of initiation of study

 

       drug we have lost greater than 25 percent of the

 

       patient population and, therefore, expect that the

 

       p value is going to increase but the key point is

 

       that the relative risk of death, the treatment

 

       effect, is barely changed.

 

                 Questions have also been raised about the

 

       effects of ICU time after transplantation.  If five
 

 

 

 

 

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       patients who were in the ICU greater than 14 days

 

       were removed from analysis, the results are

 

       statistically significant and in favor of the

 

       inhaled cyclosporine group.  Therefore, we have

 

       looked at the survival data from a number of

 

       different angles and found the survival data to be

 

       robust.

 

                 To assess the duration of the survival

 

       benefit we collected additional survival data 10

 

       months after the study ended, and we found that the

 

       survival benefit persisted.  At that point there

 

       were 5 deaths in the inhaled cyclosporine group

 

       compared to 15 deaths in the placebo group, with a

 

       p value of 0.017.

 

                 This post-study follow-up is important and

 

       it is useful and supportive data.  However, it has

 

       its limitations.  The first is that the study had

 

       ended and it ended almost a year earlier.  The data

 

       was analyzed and patients were unblinded; treatment

 

       groups were known.  In addition, except for those

 

       patients who had crossed over into an open-label

 

       protocol, all patients were off study drug for a
 

 

 

 

 

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       substantial period of time, ranging anywhere from

 

       10 months to a maximum of 3.5 years.  When you

 

       consider that the median time to diagnosis of

 

       chronic rejection is 16-20 months, it is going to

 

       confound the results.  Also, there were placebo

 

       patients that had crossed over and were now

 

       receiving inhaled cyclosporine so the net effect,

 

       as expected, is that it is going to trend toward

 

       the null.

 

                 This is what the FDA refers to as the

 

       five-year data and believes that it is the most

 

       appropriate time point to analyze the survival

 

       data, but for the reasons that I have just

 

       described we disagree and we believe that the data

 

       is best analyzed at the prospectively defined study

 

       end date.

 

                 In order to verify that the placebo

 

       population was representative of what would be

 

       expected in a larger U.S. transplant population,

 

       the placebo survival curve was compared with data

 

       from the United Network for Organ Sharing, or UNOS,

 

       that maintains a large transplant registry. 
 

 

 

 

 

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       Placebo patients were matched with UNOS controls

 

       who were transplanted during the same period of

 

       enrollment as ACS001, and they were matched by the

 

       variables on the slide.  Matching also excluded

 

       patients who died before they could have possibly

 

       enrolled into ACS001.

 

                 This slide illustrates the results and

 

       shows that both early mortality and late mortality

 

       in the placebo group are extremely consistent with

 

       what is expected in a larger multicenter patient

 

       population.  Roughly 50 percent survival at 4.5

 

       years is exactly what has been documented in the

 

       literature for years.  Therefore, any analyses that

 

       exclude early deaths or late deaths or deaths due

 

       to particular causes have to be viewed with caution

 

       as they would no longer lead to a placebo group

 

       whose survival is representative.  By comparison,

 

       when the ACS001 inhaled cyclosporine group is

 

       compared to the UNOS controls the relative risk of

 

       death of 0.252 is very comparable to what was seen

 

       in ACS001 where the relative risk of death was

 

       0.213.
 

 

 

 

 

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                 This is a busy slide but it makes a very

 

       important point and brings us into our next topic,

 

       namely, the primary reason for the improved

 

       survival in patients treated with inhaled

 

       cyclosporine is that inhaled cyclosporine prevented

 

       chronic rejection.  This slide illustrates the

 

       timing and cause of death for both groups.  As

 

       expected, early deaths were predominantly due to

 

       infectious causes.  However, subsequently nearly

 

       all deaths are associated with chronic rejection.

 

       Of the five deaths that the agency calls attention

 

       to in the mid portion of the graph as driving the

 

       statistical significance, four out of the five had

 

       chronic rejection.  By contrast, in the inhaled

 

       cyclosporine group the curve becomes flat and late

 

       mortality is not occurring.

 

                 One question that has been raised is why

 

       is the survival difference statistically different

 

       at two years when all patients would have completed

 

       their study drug.  The reason, as evident from this

 

       graph, is that chronic rejection is the predominant

 

       cause of death in the first year so you wouldn't
 

 

 

 

 

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       expect to see early large separation of the two

 

       curves.  However, after a year it is the major

 

       contributor, as Dr. Golden has demonstrated, to

 

       mortality.

 

                 To review, chronic rejection is an

 

       umbrella term for patients with histologic evidence

 

       of bronchiolitis obliterans, or OB, documented by

 

       transbronchial biopsy.  It is also representative

 

       of patients with clinical evidence of bronchiolitis

 

       obliterans syndrome, or BOS, using a sustained and

 

       unexplained decline in FEV1 as a surrogate marker.

 

       It is not uncommon for patients to have

 

       bronchiolitis obliterans but, due to the

 

       progressive nature, they haven't met clinical

 

       criteria for BOS.  It is also not uncommon for

 

       patients to have BOS but, due to the insensitive

 

       nature of transbronchial biopsy in making the

 

       diagnosis they don't have OB.  So, these two

 

       groups, patients with OB and patients with BOS, are

 

       overlapping but they all represent patients with

 

       chronic rejection.  So, looking at each group

 

       individually may be informative but it has to be
 

 

 

 

 

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       viewed as a subset analysis.  Consistent with

 

       direct delivery to the airway epithelium, the site

 

       of chronic rejection, treatment with inhaled

 

       cyclosporine led to a 72 percent decrease in the

 

       risk of chronic rejection or death.  As you will

 

       see, when we performed the same univariate and

 

       multivariate analyses, the results are even more

 

       robust.

 

                 This slide illustrates the Kaplan-Meier

 

       estimate of chronic rejection-free survival and

 

       uses a composite endpoint of first diagnosis of OB,

 

       first diagnosis of BOS or death.  There are two

 

       important points here.  One is that there is

 

       general agreement with the FDA that the rate of

 

       biopsy and the rate of pulmonary function testing

 

       is comparable between the two groups so that the

 

       difference isn't driven by increased testing in one

 

       group or the other.

 

                 The second is that the use of a composite

 

       endpoint of chronic rejection and death implies

 

       that patients who die and, therefore, can't go on

 

       to be diagnosed with chronic rejection are counted
 

 

 

 

 

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       as events rather than censored in the statistical

 

       analysis.  To censor deaths in a statistical

 

       analysis of chronic rejection would require the

 

       assumption that there is no relationship between

 

       chronic rejection and death, an assumption that we

 

       know to be invalid.

 

                 The agency issued guidelines in April of

 

       2005 endorsing a progression-free survival analysis

 

       for similar oncology endpoints to avoid a type of

 

       bias known as informative censoring.  As with the

 

       survival endpoint, we found a remarkable

 

       consistency of the chronic rejection-free survival

 

       endpoint when we performed a series of univariate

 

       analyses.  None of these baseline characteristics

 

       had any appreciable impact on the treatment effect

 

       or its significance, which speaks to the robustness

 

       of this endpoint as well.

 

                 This slide illustrates the result of

 

       multivariate analyses on the chronic rejection-free

 

       survival endpoint.  Once again, the addition of the

 

       5 most clinically relevant factors in this

 

       study--adding them into a Cox proportional hazards
 

 

 

 

 

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       model has essentially no real impact on the

 

       treatment effect of the confidence intervals and

 

       the p values remain highly statistically

 

       significant.

 

                 Valid questions have been raised about

 

       whether the survival benefit is so strong that any

 

       composite endpoint that includes survival would be

 

       statistically significant.  Therefore, for

 

       exploratory reasons we performed an analysis of

 

       chronic rejection with death censored.  This

 

       clearly biases results against the inhaled

 

       cyclosporine group due to the larger number of

 

       deaths in the placebo group.  As mentioned, this is

 

       referred to as informative censoring.  However that

 

       said, when we performed the analysis the results

 

       were still statistically significant and in favor

 

       of the inhaled cyclosporine group.  Chronic

 

       rejection occurred in 50 percent of placebo

 

       patients and 27 percent of inhaled cyclosporine

 

       patients.

 

                 This slide illustrates the Kaplan-Meier

 

       estimate of time to chronic rejection with deaths
 

 

 

 

 

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       censored and clearly illustrates a statistically

 

       significant effect on chronic rejection independent

 

       of death despite the large bias inherent in the

 

       analysis.  This analysis is important because it

 

       leads to the conclusion that treatment with inhaled

 

       cyclosporine prevents chronic rejection, the

 

       leading cause of late mortality in lung transplant

 

       patients.

 

                 However, the primary endpoint of the study

 

       was not survival or chronic rejection but rate of

 

       acute rejection and this endpoint was not met.

 

       Approximately 70 percent of patients in both groups

 

       had at least 1 episode of documented grade 2 or

 

       higher acute rejection prior to study termination.

 

       After the start of dosing rates were comparable

 

       between the 2 groups, with a p value of 0.73.

 

                 Dr. Golden has explained the paradigm

 

       shift that has occurred in the transplant community

 

       in terms of how acute and chronic rejection are now

 

       understood.  Acute rejection is primarily a

 

       vascular process so an immunosuppressant with low

 

       vascular exposure would not be expected to have a
 

 

 

 

 

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       significant effect, and that is what we are seeing

 

       in ACS001.  By contrast, chronic rejection is an

 

       airway process.  It is mediated in the airway

 

       epithelium so an immunosuppressant delivered

 

       directly to the airway epithelium would be expected

 

       to have an effect, and that too is what we are

 

       seeing in ACS001.

 

                 Now I am going to switch gears and briefly

 

       discuss safety.  This slide illustrates the

 

       relative systemic exposure to cyclosporine when

 

       given by an inhalation route compared to an oral

 

       route.  A 300 mg dose of inhaled cyclosporine has

 

       been demonstrated to lead to a mean peak blood

 

       concentration of 206 ng/mL, roughly 11-14 percent

 

       of what you would expect in an oral dose.  the

 

       levels at 24 hours are barely detectable by

 

       standard assays, and these numbers are reflected in

 

       the mean AUC, or area under the curve, which

 

       suggests a roughly 8-fold lower systemic exposure

 

       to cyclosporine when it is given by an inhaled

 

       route compared to an oral route.  This low systemic

 

       exposure explains why no additional systemic
 

 

 

 

 

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       toxicities were seen in the inhaled cyclosporine

 

       group compared to placebo.

 

                 Data to support the safety of inhaled

 

       cyclosporine and propylene glycol come from

 

       multiple sources, and this is outlined in much

 

       further detail in the briefing book.  The first are

 

       preclinical toxicology studies in dogs and rats,

 

       performed both by Chiron as well as referenced in

 

       the literature.  These studies show that no

 

       unexpected toxicities were seen when animals were

 

       treated at many-fold higher doses than what would

 

       be used clinically.

 

                 The next source is the randomized,

 

       placebo-controlled ACS001 trial where safety data

 

       from 30 placebo patients were compared with safety

 

       data from 36 inhaled cyclosporine patients, the 26

 

       randomized and the 10 placebo.

 

                 The next source is ACS002, which was a

 

       retrospective safety analysis of 70 patients

 

       enrolled in 1/7 different open-label protocols of

 

       inhaled cyclosporine in patients with refractory

 

       acute and chronic rejection.  The ISS, or
 

 

 

 

 

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       integrated safety summary, is a combination of all

 

       patients treated with inhaled cyclosporine in

 

       either ACS001 or ACS002 and represents 102 unique

 

       patients in our safety database.

 

                 To summarize our clinical safety data,

 

       review of the adverse event listings in ACS001

 

       revealed that inhaled cyclosporine was safe.  There

 

       was no increased risk of nephrotoxicity,

 

       neurotoxicity, infections, malignancies or any

 

       other toxicities that occur with oral or

 

       intravenous cyclosporine.  In addition, there were

 

       no new or unexpected systemic toxicities.

 

                 So, the key point is that treatment with

 

       inhaled cyclosporine led to a 79 percent decreased

 

       risk of death compared to placebo, with no systemic

 

       toxicity.  However, inhaled cyclosporine was

 

       associated with respiratory tract irritation and

 

       bronchospasm and this will be discussed in the next

 

       slide.  Review of adverse event data in ACS002 and

 

       the ISS confirmed the safety findings of ACS001,

 

       and no new safety signals were seen after review of

 

       the serious adverse event data.
 

 

 

 

 

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                 After review of the ACS001 adverse event

 

       listings and case report forms, it became clear

 

       that there were two distinct but interrelated

 

       safety signals that appeared to be a direct result

 

       of inhaled cyclosporine.  The first was

 

       bronchospasm manifested primarily by cough,

 

       exacerbated dyspnea and wheezing.  The second was

 

       respiratory tract irritation manifested primarily

 

       by pharyngitis but also laryngitis and non-cardiac

 

       chest pain.  In general, these events were mild to

 

       moderate.  They occurred early in the patient's

 

       treatment course and diminished with time, and once

 

       they resolved it was rare for them to recur.  But,

 

       most importantly, there was no progression to more

 

       serious respiratory complications such as acute

 

       respiratory failure or ARDS.  The adverse event of

 

       lung consolidation was noted in higher frequency in

 

       the inhaled cyclosporine group but the clinical

 

       relevance of this finding is unclear as underlying

 

       causes such as pneumonia, lung mass, atelectases or

 

       other underlying causes were comparable between the

 

       2 groups.
 

 

 

 

 

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                 Having reviewed the most important

 

       clinical results for inhaled cyclosporine, it is

 

       appropriate to take a step back and take a look at

 

       some of the outstanding issues surrounding the

 

       data.  Study ACS001 was conducted at a single

 

       center, and this was discussed with the FDA well

 

       before Chiron decided to move ahead and file the

 

       NDA.  However, it is important to note that no

 

       other transplant studies or registry analyses have

 

       ever shown a survival benefit comparable to what

 

       was seen in the inhaled cyclosporine group of

 

       ACS001.

 

                 We also looked at the placebo group and

 

       found that survival was comparable to a multicenter

 

       matched database.  Single-center trials are not

 

       ideal.  However, they do have one important

 

       advantage.  Because confounding due to differences

 

       in patient care is minimized, single-center trials

 

       are actually better at determining a treatment

 

       effect than multicenter trials of the same size.

 

       Finally, Chiron has committed to a multicenter

 

       postapproval trial to further study the efficacy
 

 

 

 

 

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       and safety of inhaled cyclosporine.

 

                 The sample size of N equals 56 for

 

       efficacy and N equals 102 for safety is small.

 

       However, the lung transplant population is

 

       exceedingly small, with 1100 lung transplants

 

       performed in the United States each year.  Despite

 

       the small sample size, the survival and chronic

 

       rejection data are highly statistically significant

 

       so the sample size was sufficient to test the

 

       hypothesis that inhaled cyclosporine improves

 

       survival and chronic rejection-free survival.

 

                 Cyclosporine and propylene glycol are

 

       well-known and well-characterized, and the safety

 

       profile of inhales cyclosporine is extremely

 

       favorable, especially in light of the survival

 

       benefit.  Again, Chiron has committed to creating a

 

       larger efficacy and safety database through a

 

       postapproval trial.

 

                 The randomization code was susceptible to

 

       unblinding and CRF assembly was retrospective.  The

 

       randomization code used a patient subject number

 

       followed by an A, B, C or D designation, with A and
 

 

 

 

 

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       D referring to placebo patients, B and C referring

 

       to inhaled cyclosporine patients, and it is

 

       possible that the study could have become unblinded

 

       due to the simple nature of this designation.

 

       However, there are several factors that make this

 

       very unlikely.  First is that the principal

 

       investigator was never exposed to the subject

 

       numbers.  Second, the investigator removed 3

 

       inhaled cyclosporine patients from the inhaled

 

       cyclosporine arm only to cross over into an inhaled

 

       cyclosporine open-label rescue protocol.  In

 

       addition, the pathologist reading the

 

       transbronchial biopsies and making the

 

       determination of bronchiolitis obliterans was never

 

       exposed to study numbers.

 

                 The issue with retrospective CRF assembly

 

       is whether somehow in the retrospective nature of

 

       filling out these forms an assessment of an outcome

 

       is altered.  However, when the outcome is death, or

 

       the presence or absence of bronchiolitis obliterans

 

       on an original histopathology report, or whether

 

       FEV1 has declined by 20 percent or more from a
 

 

 

 

 

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       post-transplant maximum, these are hard endpoints

 

       and would not be expected to be altered by

 

       retrospective CRF assembly.

 

                 Treatment groups were not balanced on each

 

       and every baseline characteristic.  The purpose of

 

       randomization is not to eliminate all imbalances

 

       but, rather, to randomly distribute them between

 

       groups.  The two treatment groups are comparable,

 

       and of the clinically relevant baseline

 

       characteristics we examined the majority are

 

       balanced or, if anything, would favor better

 

       outcomes in the placebo group.

 

                 Finally, when imbalances do occur in

 

       clinically relevant variables statistical models

 

       can be used to adjust for these both in univariate

 

       or multivariate analyses, and we have presented

 

       such analyses that show that the data is robust.

 

       So, we feel extremely confident in saying that

 

       baseline imbalances did not explain the efficacy of

 

       inhaled cyclosporine.

 

                 The study did not meet its primary

 

       endpoint of decreased rate of acute rejection. 
 

 

 

 

 

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       However, scientific understanding has evolved since

 

       the design of ACS001 and the lack of an effect on

 

       acute rejection is consistent with low systemic

 

       exposure.  The design of the study doesn't impact

 

       the assessment of survival or chronic rejection or

 

       alter how the data is obtained.  It is also

 

       important to note that survival and chronic

 

       rejection were prospectively defined secondary

 

       endpoints.  These analyses are not post hoc nor do

 

       they constitute data mining.

 

                 Finally, the survival and chronic

 

       rejection data are clinically important,

 

       statistically significant and scientifically sound.

 

       Inhaled cyclosporine is delivered directly to the

 

       airways, the site of chronic rejection.  Inhaled

 

       cyclosporine prevented chronic rejection and, in

 

       doing so, markedly improved survival.  The

 

       importance of this data is illustrated by the fact

 

       that physicians from 30 different transplant

 

       centers in the United States, which represents

 

       almost half of all active lung transplant centers,

 

       have requested early access to inhaled cyclosporine
 

 

 

 

 

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       as part of our early access program.

 

                 We have been advised to make it clear to

 

       the advisory committee where there are differences

 

       of opinion between Chiron and the FDA, and that is

 

       really why we are here today.  So, this slide

 

       illustrates five of the most important areas where

 

       we disagree.

 

                 First, we believe that covariates in a

 

       statistical model should be chosen based on an

 

       association with the clinical outcome rather than

 

       because of an imbalance.  In the case of ICU time,

 

       the use of ICU time greater than ten days, there is

 

       an imbalance toward the placebo group.  However,

 

       this is not documented to be associated with

 

       survival.  If an ICU time greater than seven days

 

       is chosen that imbalance is minimized, and if an

 

       ICU time greater than four days is chosen the

 

       imbalance is reversed.  We believe that it is

 

       important to differentiate patients who had an

 

       earlier, easier postoperative course from those who

 

       had a harder postoperative course, but believe that

 

       this is best accomplished by the randomization
 

 

 

 

 

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       stratification variable enrollment period, early

 

       versus late.

 

                 In the case of donor inotropic support, we

 

       have yet to find a single reference that even

 

       considers this variable, much less finds it

 

       clinically relevant and the FDA has called this one

 

       of the most clinically relevant factors in the

 

       study.

 

                 We do have variables and we do have data

 

       on donor quality through other variables that have

 

       been documented in the literature to be clinically

 

       important, such as donor age, donor bacterial

 

       colonization, donor graft, ischemic time, and these

 

       are balanced between the two groups.  The important

 

       point is that the use of a covariate that is

 

       imbalanced but not clinically relevant will always

 

       cause results to trend toward the null and that is

 

       what we have seen with the FDA analyses.

 

                 Second, in analyses of survival we

 

       disagree that patients whose use of donor inotrope

 

       or the donor inotrope data is missing--we disagree

 

       that these patients should be excluded from
 

 

 

 

 

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       analyses.  In the FDA analysis, by excluding

 

       long-term survivors in the inhaled cyclosporine

 

       group, the treatment effect and p values are going

 

       to be altered inappropriately.

 

                 Three, we believe that survival is best

 

       analyzed at the prospectively defined study end

 

       date rather than one year after--or nearly a year

 

       after the study was over.  I have already discussed

 

       our reasons for this.

 

                 Four, we believe that patients with

 

       bronchiolitis obliterans, or OB, should be included

 

       in an analysis of chronic rejection.  The diagnosis

 

       of OB has a specificity of over 95 percent.

 

       Patients with BOS and OB represent overlapping

 

       subsets and, therefore, to look at either one

 

       alone, we believe, is a subset analysis.

 

                 Finally, five, analyses of BOS should not

 

       censor deaths.  This is clearly informative

 

       censoring, and when deaths are not censored and

 

       BOS-free survival is analyzed the results are

 

       statistically significant and remain so when

 

       controlled for by CMV mismatch, primary diagnosis
 

 

 

 

 

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       and early  acute rejection.  Analyses that censor

 

       death can be informative but we have shown in our

 

       chronic rejection that although they can be

 

       informative they shouldn't be used as the primary

 

       analysis.

 

                 So, I would like to end with a summary of

 

       the clinical data that I presented.  In the lung

 

       transplant population with no appropriate approved

 

       drugs, very few randomized clinical trials and a

 

       dismal prognosis that hasn't changed in almost 20

 

       years, treatment with inhaled cyclosporine was

 

       associated with a 79 percent decrease in the risk

 

       of death.  Treatment with inhaled cyclosporine was

 

       associated with a 72 percent decrease in the risk

 

       of chronic rejection or death.  We have

 

       demonstrated that our efficacy results are robust

 

       through a number of different analyses.  We have

 

       also demonstrated that the ACS001 placebo

 

       population is representative of a larger U.S.

 

       transplant population.  We have demonstrated that

 

       treatment with inhaled cyclosporine was not

 

       associated with any systemic toxicities.  Finally,
 

 

 

 

 

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       inhaled cyclosporine was associated with local

 

       respiratory tract irritation and bronchospasm, a

 

       relatively small price to pay in light of the

 

       profound survival benefit.

 

                 Thank you.  I would like to end and turn

 

       this presentation over to Dr. Ronald Helms,

 

       Professor Emeritus of Biostatistics of the

 

       University of North Carolina, who is going to spend

 

       a few minutes discussing the statistical

 

       considerations of the study.

 

                        Statistical Considerations

 

                 DR. HELMS:  Thank you, and thank you for

 

       the opportunity to come and address this group here

 

       this morning.  My time is short so I am going to

 

       dive right in, if I may.

 

                 Why are we here?  Well, this survival

 

       curve tells why we are here, the profound

 

       difference in survival in these two treatment arms,

 

       as has been discussed at length already.

 

                 A second reason I am here is that this is

 

       a very interesting project, a very interesting

 

       project.  Let me first establish a disclaimer and
 

 

 

 

 

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       my conflict of interest issue.  The views that are

 

       expressed in this presentation are mine alone and

 

       do not represent either the FDA or Chiron or Rho,

 

       my current employer, or the University of North

 

       Carolina, my former employer.  It is possible that

 

       these views may represent the best interests of

 

       future lung transplant patients.  In terms of

 

       financial conflict of interest, neither Rho nor I

 

       have any financial stake in the outcome of this

 

       submission.  Less than half a percent of Rho's

 

       total income this year will come from Chiron.

 

       Chiron pays Rho an hourly consulting fee for my

 

       time plus travel expenses and, in fact, my board of

 

       directors told me they would prefer that I work on

 

       other projects that are more financially rewarding

 

       to the company.

 

                 [Laughter]

 

                 So, I am here despite that.  Also, neither

 

       Rho nor Chiron has edited my presentation and I

 

       have reviewed the briefing documents that you have

 

       seen from both the FDA and Chiron, plus some other

 

       more comprehensive documentation.  So, I feel
 

 

 

 

 

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       unconflicted here.

 

                 So, why am I here?  Well, coming back to

 

       the results of this study and the fact that it is a

 

       very interesting project--it is a very interesting

 

       project and we have a problem.  By "we" I mean the

 

       professionals sitting here around the table, the

 

       FDA professionals, the Chiron staff--we have a

 

       problem.

 

                 This Kaplan-Meier graph tells that this

 

       product has the potential to save the lives of a

 

       statistical number of lung transplant patients.

 

       The NDA does not meet the usual regulatory

 

       requirements for approval.  Should it be approved?

 

                 Well, there are advantages and

 

       disadvantages to approval in this case.  The

 

       results indicate that if approved, widespread use

 

       of this product would probably save the lives of

 

       around 300 to 350 lung transplant patients a year.

 

       Now, I should just comment that my comments here

 

       are really aimed at the non-statisticians on this

 

       panel.  The statisticians know how to interpret

 

       relative risk and those kinds of things.  I thought
 

 

 

 

 

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       it would be useful to translate this into lives

 

       saved after a period of time when the product was

 

       in widespread use.  It appears to improve the

 

       survival probability by about 30 or 35 percentage

 

       points.  You see the numbers there, somewhere

 

       around 50-90 percent, and there are about 1000 or

 

       1100 transplant patients so if you do the

 

       arithmetic it comes out to around 300 to 350 lung

 

       transplant lives saved a year.

 

                 Another advantage is--and this is a

 

       practical advantage--if this product were approved

 

       FDA could require Chiron to conduct the

 

       sufficiently large follow-up study that Chiron has

 

       proposed.  If the study were negative the approval

 

       could be withdrawn and, as a practical matter,

 

       without approval the follow-up study will never be

 

       done.  Off-label use of the product would

 

       ultimately become a standard of care and failure to

 

       use it would be considered unethical and subject to

 

       lawsuits and those sorts of things.  And it is an

 

       interesting aside that we have a very closely

 

       related case.  Cyclosporine, which is used
 

 

 

 

 

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       universally in the treatment of lung transplants,

 

       is not approved for that indication; it is all

 

       off-label use.  The studies have never been done.

 

                 There are some obvious obstacles to

 

       approval.  We have the results of only one small

 

       unconfirmed study.  This is a serious problem.  It

 

       is a serious problem.  This one study has a number

 

       of flaws that have been noted by both Chiron and

 

       FDA.  Here are some opinions, one of these is very

 

       important; some are potentially important; and some

 

       really are inconsequential in my opinion.

 

                 The very important flaw in this clinical

 

       trial from a statistical perspective is that the

 

       stated primary outcome was acute rejection, not

 

       mortality or survival.  The statistical methods

 

       that we routinely use for Phase III confirmatory

 

       studies aren't very helpful with this problem, the

 

       problem of switching the primary endpoint from what

 

       was stated in the protocol to a secondary endpoint.

 

       But good, old-fashioned common sense can be

 

       helpful.  When you see that big an effect on

 

       survival you very likely made an important
 

 

 

 

 

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       discovery.

 

                 Now, we could use, as statisticians, a

 

       branch of statistics called decision theory for

 

       formal risk-benefit analyses here but the fact is

 

       that if we did that the analyses would be based on

 

       a number of assumptions and if you are strongly

 

       opposed to approval here you challenge the

 

       assumptions, and rightly so.  The result is so big,

 

       the difference in survival is so big here that we

 

       can tell what the outcome would be anyway, that it

 

       would lead to a decision in favor of the product.

 

                 Some potentially important flaws--let me

 

       address those.  My time is brief and I won't go

 

       into statistical details but there is an important

 

       side note here.  At least as of a few weeks ago,

 

       the FDA and  Chiron biostatisticians had confirmed

 

       each other's statistical calculations.  The point

 

       is that there is no issue about correctness of

 

       populations.  Now, you are going to hear different

 

       perspectives obviously from Chiron and FDA.  In my

 

       opinion, the issues here are about how to use and

 

       interpret the statistics, not the actual results,
 

 

 

 

 

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       and I think that is good to know.

 

                 There are some potentially important flaws

 

       that have already been mentioned and you will hear

 

       some more about that in the FDA presentation.  The

 

       randomization, if done improperly, could be an

 

       important flaw; the lack of balance with respect to

 

       important baseline characteristics; unmasking or

 

       unblinding--we used to call it unblinding but then

 

       I worked with some ophthalmologists and they taught

 

       me to use the word "unmasking."  The study was

 

       conducted in such a manner that the investigators

 

       could have been unmasked essentially, and the study

 

       was conducted at a single clinical center, not

 

       multiple centers.

 

                 I want to cut to the chase because my time

 

       is limited.  The bottom line is I reviewed each of

 

       the potentially important flaws and my conclusions

 

       for each one were that each was either not a flaw

 

       at all or was relatively unimportant.  For example,

 

       the randomization failed to balance with respect to

 

       all the baseline factors.  It rarely does in

 

       clinical trials, even large clinical trials.  It
 

 

 

 

 

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       has been my experience over the last 15 years since

 

       I began looking at this that only one out of

 

       hundreds of clinical trials was balanced with

 

       respect to all important baseline factors.  So, it

 

       is not a case of failure.  On request, on somebody

 

       else's time, I will be happy to talk about some of

 

       these issues.

 

                 There are some unimportant flaws in the

 

       clinical trial, and they are listed there.  We

 

       don't have to spend time on that.

 

                 Let me raise an important ethical point

 

       for the members of the panel.  Suppose the data

 

       from this study were the results of an interim

 

       analysis half way through the study, and suppose

 

       the members of this advisory panel were instead

 

       sitting as the study's data and safety monitoring

 

       board, would we be ethically bound to terminate the

 

       study to protect future patients who might be

 

       assigned to placebo?  I suspect that many of you

 

       have sat as members of data and safety monitoring

 

       boards and faced precisely this question in the

 

       middle of a study.  I have.  And I believe that
 

 

 

 

 

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       everyone on the DSMBs in which I participated would

 

       have stopped this study to protect placebo

 

       patients, the results of the study are that

 

       compelling.

 

                 I think there is another important ethical

 

       point.  I think the people in this room--again, the

 

       FDA staff, the advisory panel, the Chiron

 

       staff--are ethically bound to find a way to make

 

       this product available on-label to U.S. lung

 

       transplant patients.  It will be used off-label.

 

       It already is being used off-label but without

 

       approval for some years this product will only be

 

       available to people who can afford to pay for it

 

       from their own funds because it won't be covered by

 

       insurance.  So, we have a product that would be

 

       made available to wealthy people and not others.

 

                 We also, I think, are ethically bound to

 

       find a way to make it necessary for Chiron to

 

       conduct the proposed postapproval follow-up study.

 

       If we don't, it won't be done.  Realistically, it

 

       can only be done as a postapproval study for

 

       financial reasons that Chiron can talk to you
 

 

 

 

 

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       about.

 

                 What an interesting project!  Thank you

 

       for the opportunity to talk to you.

 

                         Safety and Benefit-Risk

 

                 DR. DILLY:  Thank you, Prof. Helms and

 

       thank you, everyone, for your patience in following

 

       through our presentation.  I am going to conclude

 

       with about five minutes of remarks to end the

 

       Chiron presentation.

 

                 What I would like to do is consider some

 

       of the issues relevant to the potential approval of

 

       Pulminiq.  Clearly, we believe the best way to help

 

       lung transplant patients now is to make CyIS

 

       available.  Lung transplant, as you heard, is in

 

       many ways the poster child of the orphan drug

 

       indication.  Despite the incentive provided by the

 

       orphan drug designation, no drugs have been

 

       developed for lung transplantation, probably

 

       because the economics simply don't work for a

 

       conventional development program.  So, if we are

 

       looking for new drugs, it is going to come from

 

       sources like this.
 

 

 

 

 

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                 Now, we are not suggesting for a moment

 

       that the burden of evidence is any different for an

 

       orphan indication.  Rather, what we are suggesting

 

       is that we must consider the evidence that exists

 

       on its merit and, in fact, the case for approval of

 

       this drug is very strong.

 

                 The scientific premise for inhaled

 

       cyclosporine is extremely straightforward.  We are

 

       giving an effective drug, with systemic toxicity,

 

       by inhalation to achieve higher lung levels.  This

 

       has been done, of course, successfully in asthma,

 

       in COPD, in cystic fibrosis.  It is a well

 

       precedented approach.  In fact, as you heard, the

 

       idea is so straightforward that many lung

 

       transplant centers were already using inhaled

 

       cyclosporine empirically before the clinical data

 

       of ACS001 were known.

 

                 Of course, these are the essential

 

       clinical data.  Patients who received inhaled

 

       cyclosporine in the pivotal trial lived

 

       significantly longer than those who did not.  You

 

       have heard compelling arguments that the difference
 

 

 

 

 

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       in survival was due to inhaled cyclosporine and

 

       that the benefit is highly likely to be

 

       generalizable to other patients in other treatment

 

       centers.  Publication of these data will rightly

 

       have a major impact on the treatment of lung

 

       transplantation with or without approval of

 

       Pulminiq.  The case for benefit is very strong.

 

       Also as you have heard, there is very little risk

 

       of harm.  This is a known drug.  Local toxicity in

 

       the lung is minor and systemic exposure is not

 

       clinically important.  Finally, this is a very

 

       small population with an entirely clear-cut

 

       diagnosis, lung transplantation.  So, the chances

 

       of a major public health problem from broad usage

 

       is very, very small.  In other words, the

 

       demonstrated benefit far outweighs the potential

 

       for harm.  The bottom line is patients will live

 

       longer if inhaled cyclosporine is made available to

 

       them.

 

                 Of course, some questions remain open

 

       because of the nature of the clinical program

 

       conducted to date.  So, the right thing to do for
 

 

 

 

 

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       patients is to approve inhaled cyclosporine now and

 

       conduct the appropriate postapproval study to

 

       address those outstanding questions.  So, I would

 

       like to finish the Chiron comments by considering

 

       what that postapproval study should look like.

 

                 The central question really is how to give

 

       inhaled cyclosporine.  We have seen benefits from

 

       therapy lasting for up to two years.  All logic

 

       dictates that for a chronic rejection endpoint

 

       chronic therapy should be better.  We need to study

 

       that.  We need to study dosing beyond two years.

 

       We need to work on making the first few doses as

 

       tolerable as possible so we can get as many

 

       patients as possible onto an effective dosing

 

       regimen.

 

                 We would also love to know more about the

 

       interplay of the key clinical endpoints, survival,

 

       rejection, lung function.  You can only interpret

 

       so far based on a single, relatively small study

 

       with such a bright line survival effect.  We

 

       believe that 300 mg of inhaled cyclosporine by

 

       nebulizer three times a week is a perfectly
 

 

 

 

 

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       appropriate inhaled regimen and the right thing to

 

       put in the label, but there are some questions we

 

       need a bigger study to answer.

 

                 How do patients do if they actually

 

       tolerate a dose below 300 mg--100 mg or 200 mg?  Is

 

       the need for systemic dose intensification reduced

 

       with effective long-term inhaled therapy?  What is

 

       the best way to deal with treatment interruptions,

 

       for instance during concomitant illnesses?  Of

 

       course, it will be informative to have a much

 

       bigger safety experience.

 

                 So, here is our proposal, essentially this

 

       is a very large single-arm study with external

 

       controls.  We believe that we could draw the

 

       control arm now from the UNOS database.  From the

 

       comments you heard from Dr. Golden and others, we

 

       know what happens to lung transplant patients

 

       treated with current standard of care.  So, 250

 

       patients will be treated with a labeled regimen of

 

       inhaled cyclosporine for 5 years.  A placebo group

 

       is not appropriate and not necessary given the

 

       robust survival advantage already demonstrated with
 

 

 

 

 

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       inhaled cyclosporine.  There will be 2 external

 

       controls, firstly, about a thousand matched

 

       patients with long-term follow-on data drawn from

 

       the UNOS database.  Secondly, a group of

 

       contemporaneous controls who will not receive

 

       inhaled cyclosporine.  The exact size of this

 

       group, of course, will be somewhat dependent on the

 

       rapidity of uptake of inhaled cyclosporine therapy.

 

       So, we would expect that the availability of those

 

       patients would go down over time.

 

                 What I am attempting to describe to you

 

       here is a study that is entirely doable in the

 

       postapproval context.  The primary endpoint will be

 

       chronic rejection-free survival, with all-cause

 

       mortality and lung function as secondary endpoints.

 

       We see three safety endpoints as particularly

 

       interesting:  Firstly, infections requiring

 

       hospitalization because we believe that that signal

 

       in favor of the lower incidence of pneumonia on the

 

       inhaled cyclosporine group in ACS001 is probably

 

       real and due to decreased lung damage from chronic

 

       rejection, making the lungs less susceptible to
 

 

 

 

 

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       infection.  Secondly, we want to look at renal

 

       dysfunction and malignancy as readouts of systemic

 

       immunosuppressive status, as well as diligent

 

       follow-up for the other safety events.  In fact,

 

       this will be the largest study ever done and the

 

       longest study ever done in the lung transplant

 

       setting.

 

                 In conclusion, based on what we know now

 

       lung transplant patients will clearly live longer

 

       with inhaled cyclosporine.  The outstanding

 

       questions can be addressed in a postapproval study

 

       and so we believe that inhaled cyclosporine should

 

       be approved now.

 

                 Now I would like to invite Dr. Scaife to

 

       the podium as well and we can take your questions.

 

                 DR. SCAIFE:  Thank you very much, Dr.

 

       Dilly.  We can open to the FDA and the panel for

 

       questions.

 

                         Questions from the Panel

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  Go ahead.

 

                 DR. SCHOENFELD:  I just had a few

 

       questions on acute rejection since that endpoint
 

 

 

 

 

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       wasn't exactly described.  How is that diagnosed?

 

                 DR. SCAIFE:  Dr. Sarah Noonberg?

 

                 DR. NOONBERG:  It is diagnosed by

 

       transbronchial biopsy and it is graded 0-4.  So, it

 

       is the same transbronchial biopsy that can be used

 

       to make the diagnosis of bronchiolitis obliterans.

 

                 DR. SCHOENFELD:  So, was there sort of a

 

       program of periodic transbronchial biopsies in

 

       these patients during the study?

 

                 DR. NOONBERG:  Yes, approximately the

 

       first month and then three to four months afterward

 

       for a period of two years and then as clinically

 

       relevant.  It should be noted that the mean greatly

 

       exceeded that.  All patients had the minimum and

 

       the mean was far higher.

 

                 DR. SCHOENFELD:  Another question about

 

       acute rejection, once a patient has bronchiolitis

 

       obliterans can they have acute rejection also?

 

                 DR. NOONBERG:  Yes.

 

                 DR. SCHOENFELD:  I see.  So, it can happen

 

       after the chronic rejection has begun.

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  Dr. Hunsicker?
 

 

 

 

 

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                 DR. HUNSICKER:  I would like to ask Dr.

 

       Golden if he would be willing to comment on this.

 

       Let me give perhaps a little bit of a setting for

 

       my concerns here.  We have a study in which the

 

       primary outcome was not met and the secondary

 

       outcome is met that at the time the study was

 

       conceived didn't correspond to biology that was

 

       understood.  The understanding of biology has

 

       changed but--I would like to say I am not a

 

       pulmonary person but I am a transplanter--is still

 

       not very well understood.  So, I think I need to

 

       have somebody who really understands the pulmonary

 

       rejection business to tell me a little bit about

 

       the preclinical information on the impact of local

 

       immunosuppression for chronic rejection in the

 

       lungs.  Right now the general assumption is that

 

       most of the effects of immunosuppression are

 

       central.  I grant you that there is some very real

 

       interest in the possibility of local immunocytes

 

       being locally immunosuppressed but this is not what

 

       I would call a robustly well understood part of

 

       science.  So, since we can't look at this really in
 

 

 

 

 

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       most of the forms of transplantation, it may be

 

       that we have some better understanding of this from

 

       the pulmonary point of view and I would like to get

 

       the best understanding I can have of what is

 

       currently understood about the impact of local

 

       immunosuppression for pulmonary rejection.

 

                 DR. GOLDEN:  First of all, nobody knows

 

       with precision exactly where you are treating

 

       locally along the airway.  I would infer, given

 

       that there is a difference in chronic rejection,

 

       that that is generally a more peripheral airway

 

       portion.

 

                 DR. HUNSICKER:  Let me clarify that.  I

 

       wasn't talking where along the airway, I was

 

       talking about central immunological events as

 

       opposed to peripheral immunological events.  Most

 

       of us have assumed that the primary effects of

 

       immunosuppression are central rather than in the

 

       peripheral organs, particularly of the calcineurin

 

       inhibitors.  So, what I want to know is, is it

 

       known what the effects of local immunosuppression

 

       in lung rejection are in experimental models for
 

 

 

 

 

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       instance?

 

                 DR. GOLDEN:  Let me make sure I understand

 

       the question.  You want to know when you give

 

       systemic immunosuppression centrally how that might

 

       affect the airway.

 

                 DR. HUNSICKER:  Actually, it is the other

 

       way around.  Let's assume that when cyclosporine

 

       gets into the body where it really is doing its

 

       thing is in the lymph nodes and the spleen, and

 

       stuff like that where the cells are being

 

       developed.  Then it doesn't make a whole lot of

 

       sense that local application should be effective.

 

       If, in fact, there is local effect on the lymphatic

 

       cells that are in the bronchi, then it might make

 

       sense.  Right now this is something that is not

 

       understood in other forms of rejection because we

 

       can't get at the local tissues quite so well.  What

 

       is known about this?

 

                 DR. GOLDEN:  I think this is a new area.

 

       To answer it the best I can, one would have to

 

       infer that systemic therapy does not reach a level

 

       of mucosal benefit, that applying the medicine
 

 

 

 

 

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       locally, as you say, must have some local immune

 

       benefit.  The slide I showed of the mucosa with

 

       lymphocytes moving into the submucosa--I can only

 

       infer that systemic therapy or having a central

 

       effect on lymph nodes, etc., as you say, is not

 

       reaching a level of immunosuppression along the

 

       airway that is benefitted by a direct local

 

       application to the epithelium of an

 

       immunosuppressant.

 

                 I must say that there are ongoing studies

 

       now with other agents, like inhaled rapomyacin, to

 

       also try and treat this.  That is an animal study,

 

       very preliminary.  So, the best answer is I really

 

       don't know.  I infer that there is a benefit

 

       locally to applying, as you can uniquely do in the

 

       lung as you said, to a mucosal process.

 

                 DR. PRUSSIN:  Calman Prussin, NIAID.  Just

 

       to follow-up, in all immunologic and allergic lung

 

       diseases I know T-cells are being activated in the

 

       lung locally and expressing cytokines locally.  So,

 

       if you are applying that drug locally you would

 

       expect that it would have an effect there as
 

 

 

 

 

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       opposed to cells that are in the spleen which are

 

       mostly resting and not producing cytokines.  So, it

 

       does make sense immunologically.

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  Dr. Gay?

 

                 DR. GAY:  Steve Gay, University of

 

       Michigan.  I had a question concerning the early

 

       stoppage of the trial.  Pittsburgh is a fairly

 

       aggressive transplant institution and it seems as

 

       if the study was initially powered for 120

 

       patients.  The study was stopped at 56 patients.  I

 

       was wondering what factors led to the early

 

       stoppage with the fact that the primary endpoint

 

       was clearly not achieved at that point.

 

                 DR. DILLY:  The original sample size

 

       estimate was based on the availability of patients

 

       during the predefined study duration, and the study

 

       ended on the day that the study was intended to

 

       end.  That was not influenced by the primary

 

       endpoint.  It was simply that there were

 

       approximately 120-odd patients during that period

 

       who were transplanted at Pittsburgh and around half

 

       of those patients went on to the study.  So, in
 

 

 

 

 

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       fact, this was a pretty good enrollment of eligible

 

       patients at the site.

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  Dr. Proschan?

 

                 DR. PROSCHAN:  I also have a question

 

       about that because you say it was not influenced by

 

       the results.  Does that mean the results were not

 

       known at that time?

 

                 DR. DILLY:  The study was done blinded at

 

       that time so the results were not known and the

 

       blind was well preserved.  We really became aware

 

       of those results after the unblinding.

 

                 Another thing that we have looked at in

 

       some detail--and perhaps Dr. Noonberg or Dr. Capra

 

       would like to talk about this--is whether there was

 

       something special about the patients that went into

 

       the study.  Was there something about the placebo

 

       group and whether these were a selected group of

 

       patients?  All the evidence says is that these were

 

       the same kind of patients as were not enrolled in

 

       the study.

 

                 DR. NOONBERG:  When we compared the

 

       placebo and ACS001 to UPMC unenrolled controls we
 

 

 

 

 

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       found that the survival curves were comparable,

 

       with a p value of 0.99, so these didn't represent a

 

       select group of patients.  One of the reasons for

 

       the poor enrollment is that there just simply

 

       weren't enough transplants performed during that

 

       period of time.  During those three years there was

 

       a far lower time for--I am just going to stop and

 

       show this slide quickly that demonstrate the

 

       survival of screen failures, so patients who were

 

       not enrolled in ACS001 and those that were enrolled

 

       into the placebo group.

 

                 But to go back to my previous thought, I

 

       mean, they couldn't have enrolled 136 patients.

 

       There were 105 transplants performed during the

 

       enrollment period.  The enrollment period didn't

 

       stop early; the enrollment period had a three-year

 

       duration and it stopped at that three-year

 

       duration.  It just didn't enroll the requisite

 

       number of patients that it anticipated.

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  I believe Dr. Proschan has

 

       another question, but for the members of the panel

 

       here, if you will just simply hit your "talk"
 

 

 

 

 

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       button we will be able to see the light on and you

 

       needn't raise your hand.  That will probably be

 

       easier for us.  Dr. Proschan?

 

                 DR. PROSCHAN:  I guess I was just

 

       following up on that because, you know, usually

 

       even if it is the primary endpoint to stop early

 

       there are boundaries that you use and, you know,

 

       the commonly used boundary is called the

 

       O'Brien-Flemming type of boundary, and this trial

 

       would not have met that level of evidence.  But

 

       that is a concern, mainly motivated by my thinking

 

       that the results were known at the time you stopped

 

       and, therefore, the possibility on a random high.

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  Dr. Moss?

 

                 DR. MOSS:  I have a question I guess for

 

       Dr. Noonberg but you, guys, might answer it too.

 

       It has to do with the generalizability of your

 

       results and I think you showed it on that slide.

 

       Normally when you have figures on a study you say

 

       we screened this many people; these many were

 

       excluded and we were left with 10 percent of the

 

       population.  That wasn't included in any documents
 

 

 

 

 

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       but I think you brought it out a little bit there

 

       so could you just go over that and say, you know,

 

       these many people were screened and these many were

 

       excluded and you were left with what percentage of

 

       the patients that were actually enrolled in the

 

       study, so we can get an idea about the

 

       generalizability of your data?

 

                 DR. SCAIFE:  Dr. Noonberg?

 

                 DR. NOONBERG:  You want to go back to that

 

       last slide?

 

                 DR. MOSS:  I think the data was there but

 

       you never mentioned it before.  You don't need the

 

       slide, just how many people were screened and how

 

       many were excluded and you were left with this many

 

       people so we can see how generalizable your data

 

       are.

 

                 DR. NOONBERG:  Right.  There were 105

 

       transplants performed during the roughly 3-year

 

       enrollment period and there were 68

 

       patients--actually, 58 patients enrolled during

 

       that 3-year period; 10 were enrolled the year

 

       previous.  So, approximately half and, as I say,
 

 

 

 

 

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       the survival in the enrolled and the placebo

 

       survival in the unenrolled group is comparable,

 

       with a p value of 0.99.

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  Dr. Venitz?

 

                 DR. VENITZ:  I want to follow-up on Dr.

 

       Hunsicker's question in a different way.  He was

 

       questioning the biology supporting localized

 

       administration versus systemic administration.  You

 

       obviously looked at exposure to cyclosporine after

 

       inhalation relative to oral or systemic

 

       administration.  Did you look at exposure to the

 

       lung in either clinical or preclinical models and

 

       compare systemic administration to inhalation?

 

                 DR. DILLY:  We actually have access to

 

       data on a scintigraphy study looking at labeled

 

       inhaled cyclosporine, conducted by Dr. Corcoran at

 

       the University of Pittsburgh, and I think it would

 

       be extremely relevant to show you those data.  I

 

       will give you the editorial comment while Sarah

 

       retrieves the slide.

 

                 But with the 300 mg dose put into a

 

       nebulizer, what we have seen is that about 25 mg is
 

 

 

 

 

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       the applied dose to the lung.  That is achieving

 

       dose levels in the lung that would require

 

       approximately doubling of the systemic

 

       immunosuppressive dose, and that is our central

 

       premise, which is that that is not something that

 

       you could routinely do in clinical practice because

 

       of the toxicities.

 

                 DR. NOONBERG:  Again, just going back to

 

       the first animal experiments in 1988 where they

 

       just gave single doses of inhaled cyclosporine,

 

       they found that pulmonary concentrations were

 

       10- to 100-fold higher than concentrations in other

 

       tissues.  In the rat model that I described

 

       pulmonary concentrations were at least 3-fold

 

       higher than systemic concentrations.  So, that is

 

       the data that we have for preclinical.

 

                 DR. VENITZ:  Again just to follow-up, how

 

       does that compare if you give cyclosporine

 

       systemically?  You are talking about what happens

 

       after inhalation.  Right?  The levels in the lung

 

       are higher than in other tissues, higher than in

 

       plasma?
 

 

 

 

 

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                 DR. NOONBERG:  Right.

 

                 DR. VENITZ:  And I am wondering how would

 

       that compare if a dose of cyclosporine was given

 

       intravenously to those animals.  What lung

 

       concentrations would you be able to achieve?

 

                 DR. DILLY:  What we showed was a 25 mg

 

       dose applied to the lung through inhalation.  You

 

       have to remember that when you put 300 mg into a

 

       nebulizer an awful lot goes into the atmosphere and

 

       an awful lot doesn't get into the lung.  That 25 mg

 

       applied dose, in terms of mg/g lung weight, equates

 

       to approximately an 8-fold higher systemic dose.

 

       If you assume 100 percent bioavailability of the

 

       systemic dose you have given parenterally, that

 

       would mean that you are looking at something like a

 

       200 mg dose given orally to get to the same lung

 

       levels.  That is based on AUC calculations.  If you

 

       are thinking about peak levels, then the difference

 

       is far greater because, of course, you get the

 

       early distribution phenomenon into the lung.

 

                 DR. VENITZ:  And that is in humans?  Any

 

       preclinical data to back that up?
 

 

 

 

 

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                 DR. DILLY:  Actually, that is in the

 

       briefing book.  The best data we got is in humans.

 

       It is actually in the briefing book.

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  Dr. Burdick?

 

                 DR. BARRETT:  In Dr. Golden's presentation

 

       he showed some data looking at BOS as a disease

 

       progression marker.  However, in the documentation

 

       provided both BOS and FEV1 were not determined to

 

       be significantly different between the two groups.

 

       So, assuming chronic rejection as the indication

 

       here for this product, can you give some reasons

 

       why you think that occurred?

 

                 DR. SCAIFE:  Dr. Bill Capra is the lead

 

       statistician for Chiron.

 

                 DR. CAPRA:  Actually, CyIS did show an

 

       effect on BOS, specifically BOS-free survival.  The

 

       reason why our results are different than the FDA's

 

       is that the FDA censors BOS in their analysis and

 

       this is informative censoring.  Because the reasons

 

       for death are disease related, it is invalid to

 

       censor deaths in a disease progression endpoint.

 

                 The FDA has recently issued a guidance on
 

 

 

 

 

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       this type of endpoint for oncology studies where

 

       they recommend using a progression-free survival

 

       endpoint in such an analysis rather than time to

 

       progression analysis.  If you do such an analysis

 

       with this BOS what you see is an effect of

 

       cyclosporine on improving BOS-free survival with a

 

       p value of 0.99.

 

                 DR. BARRETT:  Could you comment on the

 

       FEV1 though?

 

                 DR. CAPRA:  Sure.  We looked at FEV1 in a

 

       number of ways.  We looked at change from baseline

 

       to the final value; change from post-transplant to

 

       the final value.  We looked at time adjusted area

 

       under the curves and we looked at slopes.  In none

 

       of these analyses did we see a statistical

 

       significance.  However, in each and every analysis

 

       the point estimate favored the active group.  As an

 

       example, up here I have the results of the change

 

       from baseline to the final value and we see that

 

       the placebo group increased by 0.15 L and the

 

       active group increased by 0.40 L.  So, there seemed

 

       to be a trend, however it was not statistically
 

 

 

 

 

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       significant.

 

                 We think there are some limitations to the

 

       FEV1 analysis and we think one of the major

 

       limitations is the informed censoring.  Because

 

       there is such a large number of deaths and because

 

       the FEV1 values cannot be obtained from subjects

 

       after they die it goes against censoring.  Also,

 

       FEV1 itself is highly variable.  Any single subject

 

       might have short-term fluctuations and what BOS

 

       does is it basically ignores those short-term

 

       fluctuations and looks for a sustained 20 percent

 

       decrease.  So, when you look at BOS, removing some

 

       of that variability, and when you address the

 

       informed censoring by use of progression-free

 

       survival endpoint rather than time to progression

 

       endpoint, we see an effect of cyclosporine on lung

 

       function, namely, BOS-free survival with a p value

 

       of 0.019.

 

                 DR. DILLY:  Can I just add one

 

       supplementary comment?  This is exactly the kind of

 

       question that we need to nail down in the next

 

       study because what we want to do is take a large
 

 

 

 

 

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       group of patients, enroll them, nail down what

 

       their lung function is and follow them over time

 

       because, remember, the objective of this treatment

 

       is to preserve the lungs in a good condition.  So,

 

       actually a no-effect on FEV1 in that context in a

 

       large group of patients would be a great outcome,

 

       and that is what we want to show next.

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  Dr. Gay?

 

                 DR. GAY:  My question is to follow Dr.

 

       Moss' question from a while ago.  I am still not

 

       clear on the number of patients, why the number is

 

       so small, the number of patients that were included

 

       in the study.  It is essentially a single-site

 

       study in which every therapy is an off-label one

 

       for the treatment of rejection in transplantation.

 

       I am trying to get a grasp of why there were so

 

       many screening failures, essentially 50 percent

 

       screening failures in the study over the course of

 

       the three years.  Why weren't more patients

 

       included or made available to be included in the

 

       study, and what were the reasons for that?

 

                 DR. DILLY:  In fact, what we would
 

 

 

 

 

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       consider the 50 percent enrollment of eligible

 

       patients as quite good in a clinical study.  Our

 

       experience has been typically when we are trying to

 

       enroll clinical trials, which is what we do for a

 

       living, that we see something like 25-40 percent

 

       enrollment into the study.  So, when we went into

 

       Pittsburgh and we looked at this whole body of data

 

       we were quite reassured that the patients had gone

 

       to the study in an elegant way; that about half of

 

       them got into the study; and there was nothing

 

       particularly strange about the patients that did

 

       and the patients that didn't.  So, we did not see

 

       that as an issue and we came back to the fact that

 

       we saw the data as robust.

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  Dr. Prussin?

 

                 DR. PRUSSIN:  I was impressed by the

 

       heterogeneity in terms of the cyclosporine group in

 

       terms of the dose that they received.  You know,

 

       some of the subjects received all the doses for the

 

       full length of the study, and various documents

 

       suggest that something like 9/36 received 1 month

 

       or less.  So, my question is did you ever stratify
 

 

 

 

 

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       the analysis for survival based on how much drug

 

       they received?  It is pretty impressive that 9 of

 

       these patients received only a month of drug and

 

       yet presumably had a fairly good survival.

 

                 DR. SCAIFE:  Dr. Noonberg?

 

                 DR. NOONBERG:  There are several responses

 

       to that question.  The first is that ACS001 wasn't

 

       a dose-response study and we don't have formal

 

       dose-response data.  However, in one of our

 

       sensitivity analyses we did exclude patients, 14,

 

       who didn't receive at least 80 percent of the

 

       protocol maximum dosing and they are excluded from

 

       analysis.  As would be expected, the p value is

 

       going to go up due to loss of power, however, the

 

       treatment effect is essentially unchanged.

 

                 DR. PRUSSIN:  But on the flip side, why

 

       did the patients who essentially didn't receive

 

       drug respond to a drug they didn't get?  That is

 

       what I am more concerned about, not the ones that

 

       did receive the drug.  Yes, they responded even if

 

       the p value is going to be higher, but the ones

 

       that essentially were on the active side of the
 

 

 

 

 

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       protocol but who effectively did not receive drug

 

       still had an effect in their survival.  Correct?

 

                 DR. NOONBERG:  I mean, we used an

 

       intent-to-treat analysis so we include those

 

       patients, but there are placebo patients that have

 

       long-term survival too.  This isn't a uniformly

 

       fatal diagnosis so you would expect to see

 

       variability in survival.  But we include the

 

       intent-to-treat analysis in accordance with

 

       guidelines.

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  Dr. Noonberg, I have a

 

       question that somewhat follows up on that very same

 

       one but is occasioned by one of your graphs here,

 

       and that is you continue to see and, in fact, you

 

       even highlighted that more patients seemed to be

 

       prevented in their chronic rejection appearance

 

       following the cessation of their two-year therapy,

 

       if I read this graph correctly.  Can you explain

 

       why this drug may, in fact, have benefits beyond

 

       its cessation?

 

                 DR. NOONBERG:  The CR that is in green on

 

       this graph doesn't represent new diagnoses of
 

 

 

 

 

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       chronic rejection but, rather, deaths associated

 

       with chronic rejection.  So, they are not

 

       necessarily new rejection episodes.  So, this just

 

       highlights the strong association of chronic

 

       rejection with death and the fact that you don't

 

       see that in the inhaled cyclosporine group.  But

 

       the chronic rejection episodes are actually

 

       occurring throughout the process.

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  Okay.  Dr. Hunsicker?

 

                 DR. HUNSICKER:  On that same graph, it was

 

       not clear to me when you put that up--you don't

 

       have to put it back up again, I think we have all

 

       seen it--how you made the diagnosis of chronic

 

       rejection in those cases.  Was that either well

 

       defined BOS or a biopsy, or was that a clinical

 

       definition of chronic rejection based on the fact

 

       the patient had died with lung disease?

 

                 DR. NOONBERG:  It is either by

 

       transbronchial biopsy with histologic proof of the

 

       lesion of bronchiolitis obliterans or clinical

 

       BOS--

 

                 DR. HUNSICKER:  So, all of those patients
 

 

 

 

 

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       that had the CR in green there either had one or

 

       the other?

 

                 DR. NOONBERG:  Correct.

 

                 DR. HUNSICKER:  I have a couple of other

 

       questions just to be sure I am correct on this, you

 

       referred to the analysis plan.  First of all, there

 

       was a prospective analysis plan that specified that

 

       the total survival at the end of the study was to

 

       be used as the primary outcome rather than the data

 

       at the end of two years of treatment?  I wasn't

 

       quite sure.  There were three or more different

 

       types of analysis that were discussed in the

 

       briefing books.  What did the original prospective

 

       analysis plan say was to be used as the primary

 

       evaluation?  Was it total survival at March 31, or

 

       whatever it was, or was it supposed to be at the

 

       end of the two years of treatment?

 

                 DR. NOONBERG:  It should have been at the

 

       end of the study.  Dr. Aldo Iacona, the principal

 

       investigator is nodding his head so, yes.

 

                 DR. PROSCHAN:  But it was not survival; it

 

       was acute rejection.
 

 

 

 

 

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                 DR. HUNSICKER:  Well, I understand--

 

                 DR. NOONBERG:  Right, but the survival is

 

       the secondary endpoint--

 

                 DR. PROSCHAN:  We have so many secondary

 

       endpoints to look at, we have to figure out which

 

       endpoint we are looking at.

 

                 DR. HUNSICKER:  And the second question I

 

       have is that I thought I found in the briefing book

 

       that of the ten patients who were put into the

 

       so-called pilot thing, five of them had eventually

 

       died.  Is this correct?

 

                 DR. NOONBERG:  That is correct.

 

                 DR. HUNSICKER:  So, five out or ten

 

       patients, and they received treatment for the full

 

       two years or at least as much of the two full years

 

       as one would have expected them to get?

 

                 DR. NOONBERG:  Correct.  When those

 

       patients are included in the statistical analysis,

 

       and that was one of the sensitivity analyses that

 

       we performed, the results were still statistically

 

       significant.  They died but the timing of death is

 

       very important, as well as the fact that they
 

 

 

 

 

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       died--

 

                 DR. HUNSICKER:  Sure.

 

                 DR. NOONBERG:  Here is a Kaplan-Meier of

 

       survival from time of transplantation to study end

 

       date including the randomized and the pilot, with a

 

       p value of 0.018.

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  At this time we should

 

       break.  I know there are more questions and they

 

       can be taken up in our other discussion sessions

 

       later today.  We will reconvene at 10:15.

 

                 [Brief recess.]

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  We should make a start on

 

       the next session, and Dr. Hernandez, of the FDA,

 

       will lead the discussion.

 

                             FDA Presentation

 

                   Overview of Clinical Trial Efficacy

 

                          and Safety Evaluation

 

                          Discussion of Analysis

 

                 DR. HERNANDEZ:  Thank you.  Good morning.

 

       During this presentation I will describe the

 

       Division's perspective on the application for

 

       cyclosporine inhalation solution.  I will start by
 

 

 

 

 

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       saying that this is not a regular NDA application.

 

       The study, submitted to support the proposed

 

       indication, is a small Phase II study that failed

 

       to meet its primary endpoint for the prevention of

 

       acute rejection.  However, the potential for the

 

       prevention of chronic rejection and improved

 

       survival are very important aspects for the lung

 

       transplant population for which long-term survival

 

       is mostly limited by chronic rejection.

 

                 The agency considered that the potential

 

       survival benefit in this specific transplant

 

       population was reason enough to accept this new

 

       drug application for review.  The proposed

 

       indication for cyclosporine inhalation solution

 

       requested by Chiron is for increase in survival and

 

       prevention of chronic rejection in patients who

 

       receive allogeneic lung transplantation, in

 

       combination with standard immunosuppression.

 

                 In my presentation I will give an overview

 

       of the data submitted in this NDA.  Then I will

 

       summarize study ACS001 objectives, outcomes and

 

       limitations.  I will describe the FDA review which
 

 

 

 

 

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       will address the following subjects:  Acute

 

       rejection, obliterative bronchiolitis,

 

       bronchiolitis obliterans syndrome and FEV1 data,

 

       and survival.  Then I will discuss the recipient

 

       and baseline characteristics, donor baseline

 

       characteristics, the primary causes of death,

 

       available autopsy results, dosing information and

 

       related outcomes and, finally, Dr. Cavaille-Coll

 

       will give you a summary of the safety

 

       considerations and our summary conclusions.

 

                 The data submitted to support this

 

       application was derived from two reports generated

 

       by Chiron Corp.  That report was referred to as

 

       ACS001 and ACS002.  The study ACS001 is actually

 

       the name given by Chiron to the study report that

 

       summarizes the findings from the University of

 

       Pittsburgh Medical Center, protocol 003.  In this

 

       protocol a total of 68 patients were studied in two

 

       phases.  First, 10 patients were enrolled in an

 

       open phase and treated with cyclosporine inhalation

 

       solution.  Then the total of 58 patients were

 

       randomized to cyclosporine inhalation solution
 

 

 

 

 

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       which contains propylene glycol as a vehicle or

 

       propylene glycol vehicle alone.

 

                 From here I will refer to these groups as

 

       cyclosporine inhalation solution as CyIS or

 

       propylene glycol group as PG.  Twenty-six patients

 

       received CyIS and 30 patients received propylene

 

       glycol vehicle.  This was administered by

 

       inhalation with a nebulizer.  It should be noted

 

       that all patients received concurrent

 

       tacrolimus-based systemic immunosuppressive

 

       therapy.

 

                 Study ACS002 was the name that Chiron

 

       Corp. gave to the study report that summarizes the

 

       findings on adverse events in 70 patients selected

 

       from seven open-label studies conducted at UPMC.  I

 

       will refer to these study reports later.  Also, I

 

       will refer to the ACS001 study and study ACS002 to

 

       avoid confusion.

 

                 The rest of my discussion will focus on

 

       study ACS001, and the primary objective of this

 

       study was to determine if cyclosporine delivered to

 

       the lung allograft by inhalation prevents the
 

 

 

 

 

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       development of acute cellular rejection.

 

                 As you can see from this slide, the study

 

       failed to show superiority of cyclosporine

 

       inhalation solution over PG vehicle.  The mean

 

       number of acute rejections of grade 2 or higher per

 

       patient was 1.3 in the cyclosporine arm and 1.2 in

 

       the PG arm.  The median number of acute rejections

 

       grade 2 or higher was 1 in both arms.  Therefore,

 

       the study failed the primary endpoint.

 

                 However, we noted that the sponsor

 

       reported a difference in mortality and obliterative

 

       bronchiolitis between the two arms.  In the study

 

       report and database OB was reported as 1 for its

 

       presence or 0 for its absence.  No additional

 

       histopathology information was provided.  The

 

       specimens for diagnosis of OB were obtained by

 

       transbronchial biopsies.

 

                 The reporting mortality was 12 percent in

 

       the CyIS arm and 40 percent in the PG arm.  The

 

       applicant noted that this represents a 79 percent

 

       decrease in risk for mortality in this specific

 

       population.  The reported rate of bronchiolitis
 

 

 

 

 

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       obliterans or death was 19 percent in the CyIS arm

 

       and 60 percent in the PG arm, with a reported p

 

       value of 0.003.  It should be noted that this

 

       difference is mostly driven by the difference in

 

       mortality.

 

                 In study ACS001 all patients were followed

 

       up for three years after enrollment, and thereafter

 

       were followed up to document mortality.  At the

 

       time of the study end when the last patient

 

       completed two years of aerosolized treatment in

 

       August, 2003, the mortality was 12 percent in the

 

       cyclosporine arm and 40 percent in the PG arm.

 

       Follow-up data obtained through July, 2004 was

 

       submitted in the NDA and it showed mortality of 19

 

       percent in the cyclosporine arm and 50 percent in

 

       the PG arm.  Additional information submitted in

 

       the safety update in May, 2005 showed a mortality

 

       rate of 31 percent in the CyIS arm and 50 percent

 

       in the PG arm.

 

                 At the time the NDA was submitted to the

 

       agency, the limitations of the study were known to

 

       us.  These included the following:  This was a
 

 

 

 

 

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       single-center Phase II study.  There was a small

 

       sample size.  The study intended to enroll 136

 

       patients.  The case report forms were created

 

       retrospectively.  Therefore, some important

 

       recipient and donor implementation was not

 

       captured.  Some data were not systematically

 

       collected, for example, prospective routine

 

       transbronchial biopsies.  Some data were not

 

       available, for example, some donor characteristics

 

       or information on management on acute rejection

 

       episodes grade 2 or higher that appeared prior to

 

       enrollment.

 

                 FDA concerns included the lack of effect

 

       on the primary endpoint.  We also shared the

 

       sponsor's concerns that the study may have become

 

       unblinded.  For example, patients at UPMC with

 

       identification numbers ending in letters B or C

 

       received cyclosporine inhalation solution, while

 

       those patients with numbers ending in A or D

 

       received PG.  This may have allowed the

 

       investigators to identify if a given patient was

 

       receiving propylene glycol or cyclosporine
 

 

 

 

 

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       inhalation solution.

 

                 Protocol documentation was limited.

 

       Chronic rejection or survival were not designed as

 

       the primary endpoints.  Furthermore, the protocol

 

       for this study did not specify how secondary

 

       endpoints would be analyzed, and there was no

 

       pre-specified statistical analysis plan.

 

                 There were nine protocol amendments.  The

 

       study was stopped before completing enrollment.

 

       There were various protocol violations and there

 

       was no stratification by risk factors important for

 

       chronic rejection or mortality.  We can give an

 

       example such as double lung versus single lung.

 

       Despite randomization, there were imbalances in

 

       baseline characteristics.

 

                 Now I would like to describe our approach

 

       to the analysis of chronic rejection and mortality

 

       in study ACS001.  Acute rejection is considered a

 

       major risk factor for the development of chronic

 

       rejection or obliterative bronchiolitis, and a

 

       number of acute rejection episodes experienced

 

       early after transplantation are considered to have
 

 

 

 

 

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       a significant impact on the subsequent development

 

       of OB.

 

                 Even though acute and chronic rejection

 

       represent different histopathology and

 

       pathophysiology, there is general consensus that

 

       the frequency, intensity and duration of acute

 

       rejection episodes are correlated with subsequent

 

       development of obliterative bronchiolitis.

 

                 Strong evidence suggests that acute

 

       rejection is the principal cause of chronic

 

       allograft dysfunction.  However, the role of other

 

       immunologic and non-immunological factors have to

 

       be considered.  Therefore, we examined the

 

       following data on acute rejection, obliterative

 

       bronchiolitis histological findings, FEV1 and BOS

 

       clinical manifestations of the disease, and

 

       mortality as a clinical outcome.

 

                 Obliterative bronchiolitis is an important

 

       cause of mortality after the first year from

 

       transplantation, accounting approximately for 30

 

       percent of deaths.  FEV1 is the best surrogate

 

       marker available for OB, and has been proven
 

 

 

 

 

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       successful in describing--very important--the

 

       pattern of lung function decline, described as

 

       acute or chronic BOS onset; the identification of

 

       the main risk factors for BOS; and the extent and

 

       the rate of progression of OB.

 

                 The International Society of Heart and

 

       Lung Transplantation subcommittee has recommended

 

       that the slope of serial FEV1 measurements over

 

       time, before and after a therapeutic intervention,

 

       should be used to compare treatment responses.

 

                 Therefore, if chronic rejection is

 

       effectively prevented, we should expect to observe

 

       an evident therapeutic effect on FEV1 and BOS.

 

       Obliterative bronchiolitis, as defined in the study

 

       report, was documented by transbronchial biopsies

 

       and was found in 12 percent of the CyIS patients

 

       and 30 percent of the propylene glycol patients.

 

                 Now there are three points that I would

 

       like to make regarding FEV1.  First, as you can

 

       see, FEV1 values pre-enrollment, that is, after the

 

       transplantation but before randomization to the

 

       cyclosporine or PG arms, were not available in 40
 

 

 

 

 

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       percent if the patients.  This data is shown in the

 

       first row.  Second, by 3 months there is FEV1 data

 

       on essentially all patients, all 26 patients in the

 

       CyIS arm and 26/30 in the PG patients.  Third, you

 

       will notice that there is a difference in mean FEV1

 

       values between the 2 groups.  At all point times

 

       the mean FEV1 values are higher for the CyIS group

 

       as compared to the PG group.  Even before treatment

 

       assignment higher mean FEV1 values were observed in

 

       the cyclosporine inhalation group.  This difference

 

       may be attributable to the greater number of double

 

       lung transplants that were performed in this group,

 

       which we will discuss later in greater detail.

 

                 Here is a graphical presentation of the

 

       data shown in the previous slide.  You can see that

 

       even though the FEV1 values in the cyclosporine

 

       inhalation group are higher than the PG group, the

 

       yellow line below, the two curves are essentially

 

       parallel.  Therefore, it does not appear that

 

       cyclosporine inhalation solution has an effect on

 

       FEV1.

 

                 Complete FEV1 values were not available so
 

 

 

 

 

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       BOS, bronchiolitis obliterans syndrome, as defined

 

       by the International Society of Heart and Lung

 

       Transplantation could not be calculated using these

 

       criteria.  Therefore, an alternative definition of

 

       BOS, defined by the sponsor and qualified by an

 

       independent investigator was used.

 

                 As seen in this graph, the time to BOS

 

       between the 2 arms is similar, and the log-rank b

 

       value is 0.214.  This also indicates that the

 

       cyclosporine inhalation solution has no effect on

 

       BOS.  Patients who died without double-blind of

 

       BOS, as defined by the applicant, were censored at

 

       the time of the last follow-up for BOS.

 

                 We observed a difference in OB and

 

       mortality at the end of the study in August, 2003.

 

       OB was present in 12 percent in the cyclosporine

 

       inhalation solution versus 30 percent in the PG

 

       group.  Mortality was 12 percent in the CyIS arm

 

       versus 47 percent in the PG group.  No difference

 

       was observed in acute rejection, FEV1 or BOS.  As a

 

       clinician, FEV1 values are really, really

 

       important.  Questions like "how are you breathing"
 

 

 

 

 

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       are really important questions.

 

                 The association between acute rejection

 

       and chronic rejection and the effect on patients

 

       and graft survival is well documented in registry

 

       and published literature.  Acute rejection is a

 

       major risk factor for the development of chronic

 

       rejection or obliterative bronchiolitis.  In light

 

       of the strong association between acute rejection

 

       and chronic rejection, the difference observed in

 

       OB was not expected in the absence of differences

 

       in acute rejection, FEV1 or BOS, and this warrants

 

       further exploration.

 

                 Therefore, we asked the question is the

 

       mortality difference between cyclosporine

 

       inhalation solution and PG in the absence of

 

       differences in acute rejection, FEV1 or BOS due to

 

       treatment effect or could other factors account for

 

       this difference?  For example, difference in

 

       baseline characteristics of donors and recipients

 

       between the study arms, or other factors such as

 

       study conduct.

 

                 I want to remind you that there was no
 

 

 

 

 

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       difference in acute rejection grade 2 or higher at

 

       randomization to the drug or to the placebo arm.

 

       In contrast, there is a clinical and meaningful

 

       difference in acute rejection grade 2 or higher

 

       before treatment assignment.  Thirty-one percent in

 

       the CyIS arm and 42 percent in the PG patients had

 

       grade 2 or higher acute rejection prior to

 

       enrollment.  Although data were incomplete,

 

       approximately 40 percent of the CyIS allografts and

 

       50 percent of the PG allografts were colonized with

 

       bacteria or fungi.  So, this data is incomplete but

 

       I still think it is worth mentioning it.  So, if we

 

       assume that patients who had acute rejection grade

 

       2 or higher prior to enrollment received some type

 

       of steroid treatment or any other treatment

 

       augmentation, they could be predisposed to

 

       infectious complications such as pneumonia or

 

       sepsis.

 

                 Now I will discuss other imbalances in

 

       patient characteristics.  There is well documented

 

       association between the type of lung transplant and

 

       survival.  In this study there is an imbalance in
 

 

 

 

 

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       the number of single lung and double lung

 

       transplants between the two arms.  Single lung

 

       transplants were done in 58 percent in the CyIS arm

 

       and 80 percent of the PG patients.  Conversely,

 

       double lung transplants were done in 42 percent of

 

       the CyIS patients and 20 percent of the PG

 

       patients.  This difference is statistically

 

       significant at a level of 10 percent.  FEV1

 

       pre-enrollment was lower in the PG arm and may be a

 

       reflection of more single lung transplants in this

 

       group.

 

                 The imbalance between single and double

 

       lung transplant is important.  The literature and

 

       registry data show an advantage for long-term

 

       survival and freedom from BOS in double versus

 

       single lung transplants.  Single lung

 

       transplantation is associated with lower exercise

 

       tolerance, poorer pulmonary mechanics, and higher

 

       infectious complications such as pneumonia.

 

                 The International Society of Heart and

 

       Lung Transplant registry data show that the there

 

       is a difference in survival between single and
 

 

 

 

 

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       double lung transplant patients.  The half-life of

 

       double lung transplant patients is 5.3 years, as

 

       shown in the top line, while the half-life for

 

       single lung transplants is 3.9 years.  The average

 

       survival is shown in green in this graph.

 

                 As noted before, the information on donor

 

       characteristics was incomplete.  Therefore, we

 

       examined the data available that was informative

 

       about the state of the donor lung, and we noted a

 

       difference in donor inotropic support.  Fifty

 

       percent of the donor lung transplantations to the

 

       CyIS patients and 83 percent of the donor lung

 

       transplantations to the PG arm came from donors

 

       that received inotropic support.

 

                 PaO2/FiO2 ratio is an indicator of the

 

       severity of acute lung injury and it is useful to

 

       indirectly assess the degree of ischemic

 

       re-perfusion injury sustained by an allograft.

 

       PaO2/FiO2 ratio of greater than 200 percent

 

       indicates limited alveolar damage and gas exchange.

 

                 Another difference between the two arms

 

       was the time in the ICU.  While most of the
 

 

 

 

 

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       patients stayed in the ICU for less than 10 days, 4

 

       percent in the cyclosporine arm patients and 20

 

       percent in the PG patients were in the ICU for more

 

       than 10 days, and this is kind of important in a

 

       single center where the criteria for keeping the

 

       patients in the ICU pretty much remained the same

 

       The other important thing is that it will reflect

 

       how the patients are in terms of degree of severity

 

       of the disease.  Patients are not allowed to go out

 

       of the ICU if there is something that still needs

 

       to be taken care of.  So, it is a good reflection

 

       of the degree of sickness that these patients have.

 

                 PaO1/FiO2 ratio is an indicator of the

 

       ability of the lung to perform adequate gas

 

       exchange, and it is useful to indirectly assess the

 

       severity of acute allograft injury.  The baseline

 

       PaO2/FiO2 ratio on ICU admission was worse in the

 

       PG group, suggesting a major degree of ischemic

 

       re-perfusion injury in these allografts.  Also,

 

       perioperative renal dysfunction was in 4 percent in

 

       the cyclosporine inhalation solution and 13 percent

 

       in the PG patients.  Prolonged ICU stay, inadequate
 

 

 

 

 

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       gas exchange and perioperative renal dysfunction

 

       are factors that reflect a more severe condition

 

       after surgery.

 

                 We also looked at the time to the first

 

       pneumonia.  As noted, there were more cases of

 

       pneumonia in the PG arm and this was within the

 

       first one to two months of the study.  The outcome

 

       in patients with these pneumonias is summarized in

 

       the next slide.

 

                 A large number of patients in the PG arm

 

       had early pneumonias and there was a strong

 

       relationship between pneumonia and death.  The

 

       relationship is not surprising given what we know

 

       about the causes of death after lung

 

       transplantation.  The occurrence of these early

 

       pneumonias is not likely to be related to any

 

       treatment effect but may be related to baseline

 

       donor and recipient characteristics or other events

 

       which occurred prior to enrollment.  These events

 

       include but are not limited to episodes of acute

 

       rejection requiring additional immunosuppressive

 

       therapy or microbial colonization of the graft.
 

 

 

 

 

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                 I would like to underline that early

 

       pneumonia may lead to histopathological findings

 

       compatible with obliterative bronchiolitis.  This

 

       has been documented to be a risk factor for the

 

       development of obliterative bronchiolitis.  There

 

       were five patients in cyclosporine inhalation

 

       solution arm and two patients in the PG arm who

 

       developed pneumonia in the first month.  By two

 

       months there were an additional three PG patients

 

       with pneumonia.  Of these patients that developed

 

       pneumonia, 2/5 died in the cyclosporine arm and

 

       7/13 in the PG arm; 1/5 developed OB in the

 

       cyclosporine inhalation solution and 7/13 in the PG

 

       group; and BOS was observed in 3/5 in the CyIS arm

 

       and 3/13 in the PG arm.

 

                 I want to make two observations.  There is

 

       a strong association between early pneumonia and

 

       risk of death.  Second, early pulmonary infections

 

       and early acute rejection episodes are well

 

       recognized risk factors for the subsequent

 

       development of chronic rejection.

 

                 This table show the primary causes of
 

 

 

 

 

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       death by July, 2004.  Three patients in the

 

       cyclosporine inhalation solution arm and seven

 

       patients in the PG group died of infections,

 

       pneumonia or sepsis.  In the CyIS arm one patient

 

       died of graft failure and in one patient the cause

 

       was unknown.  In the PG group two patients died of

 

       OB; one patient died of pulmonary embolism and

 

       another from congestive heart failure, and one from

 

       lung cancer.  There were three patients in which

 

       the cause of death was unknown.  The distribution

 

       of causes of death is consistent with registry data

 

       where infections remain the major cause of death

 

       during the first year after transplantation while

 

       chronic rejection begins to become an important

 

       cause of death after one year, as seen in table 3,

 

       reference 1 in your background package.

 

                 Autopsy results--from the available data

 

       in the application CRFs, narratives and data sets

 

       we learned that some patients who died had autopsy

 

       performed.  In the cyclosporine inhalation solution

 

       arm one patient had autopsy and OB was not

 

       reported.  In the propylene glycol arm 15 patients
 

 

 

 

 

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       died and there were six autopsies.  In two of these

 

       OB was reported and four of them died of infection,

 

       and there was no OB reported out of the six

 

       reports.

 

                 The protocol specified that patients

 

       should receive treatment for two years.  The dose

 

       should be titrated from 100 mg to 300 mg for the

 

       first three days of treatment, then daily dosing up

 

       to three consecutive days with the maximum

 

       tolerated dose, and thereafter three times weekly

 

       dosing for two years.  There was a lot of

 

       variability in individual patient dosing in this

 

       trial.

 

                 This table shows the number of doses

 

       received by patients.  The protocol dosing schedule

 

       was not followed in many patients.  In fact, six

 

       CyIS and five PG patients received less than 25

 

       doses, as you can see circled in this slide.  The

 

       large variation in the number of doses received

 

       makes it difficult to establish a relationship

 

       between the specific treatment regimen and the

 

       improvement in survival.
 

 

 

 

 

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                 Six cyclosporine inhalation solution

 

       patients who received less than 25 doses are shown

 

       on this table.  Two patients received a single

 

       dose; others received 3, 12, 13 and 24 doses

 

       respectively.  The doses show that not all patients

 

       succeeded in titrating up to 300 mg.  Five out of

 

       these six patients experienced adverse events

 

       directly related to the administration of the

 

       cyclosporine inhalation solution, and three

 

       patients discontinued due to adverse events, and

 

       three additional patients withdrew consent.  We

 

       noted, however, that all six patients survived and

 

       all are included in the mortality calculations as

 

       cyclosporine inhalation solution successes.

 

                 There were five patients in the PG arm who

 

       received less than 25 doses and, as can be seen,

 

       four/five died.  Could these be attributable to the

 

       lack of cyclosporine inhalation solution?  All

 

       these deaths are included in the mortality

 

       calculation as PG failures.

 

                 In addition to the 3 cyclosporine

 

       inhalation solution who withdrew consent after
 

 

 

 

 

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       receiving 1, 3 and 13 doses, 3 additional patients

 

       withdrew consent--these are the last 3 rows in this

 

       slide--1 at 4 months and 2 others at 20 months.

 

       The right-hand column shows that 2 of these 3

 

       additional patients survived.

 

                 At this point I would like to turn the

 

       podium over to Dr. Cavaille-Coll to discuss our

 

       safety considerations and give our conclusions.

 

                  Safety Considerations and Conclusions

 

                 DR. CAVAILLE-COLL:  Good morning.  We are

 

       in general agreement with the applicant that the

 

       systemic safety profile of cyclosporine after oral

 

       or intravenous administration is well characterized

 

       and that the amount of systemic exposure to

 

       cyclosporine, meaning what was deposited in the

 

       lung and entered in the bloodstream before being

 

       eliminated, was not associated with detectable

 

       increases in systemic toxicity.  There is more

 

       limited information on the safety of cyclosporine

 

       when administered by inhalation in a propylene

 

       glycol solution.

 

                 As you have heard, propylene glycol is
 

 

 

 

 

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       classified as an additive that is generally

 

       recognized as safe for use in food, mainly through

 

       studies using oral and dermal exposure.  It is used

 

       to absorb extra water and maintain moisture in

 

       certain medicines, cosmetics or food products.  It

 

       is a solvent for food colors and flavors.  However,

 

       information on the inhalation toxicity of propylene

 

       glycol is more limited.  There is no approved

 

       product for inhalation containing nearly 100

 

       percent propylene glycol such as this product.

 

                 The applicant has submitted some

 

       preclinical safety data, including a 28-day study

 

       in dogs and a 28-day inhalation study in rats.  The

 

       28-day inhalation study in dogs demonstrated lung

 

       irritation, alveolar and interstitial inflammation

 

       in all cyclosporine dose groups and the vehicle

 

       control.  Laryngeal inflammation with ulceration

 

       was seen in the mid-dose group males.  Inflammatory

 

       cell infiltrates, lymphocytes, plasma cells,

 

       monocytes were seen in the control and treated

 

       group as well.  The dog studies did not contain a

 

       sham control.  Thus, this confounded the separation
 

 

 

 

 

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       of the extent of pulmonary toxicity due to

 

       cyclosporine versus that of the propylene glycol

 

       vehicle.  No additional cyclosporine inhalation

 

       toxicity was observed in the animals.  Dose levels

 

       in the dogs were limited, however, by the maximum

 

       feasible dose.  However, serum cyclosporine levels

 

       in the high dose group exceeded the human exposure

 

       by 2.5-fold.

 

                 Again, there were also studies that were

 

       done in rats which showed similar findings, except

 

       that the doses in rats did exceed about 80-fold the

 

       human exposure and there was evidence of increasing

 

       toxicity with increasing doses of cyclosporine.

 

       The rat studies did include an air control and did

 

       show that even in the propylene glycol group there

 

       were findings that were not present in the sham

 

       control animals.

 

                 I would like to address now the clinical

 

       safety.  In the usual safety review we would look

 

       at the rates of adverse events, the grade of

 

       severity, the duration of the events and their

 

       reversibility, as well as the temporal relationship
 

 

 

 

 

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       to dosing with the study drug.  Collection of such

 

       information is facilitated by the use of

 

       prospectively designed case report forms.  The

 

       latter often provide another very useful source of

 

       safety information in the form of handwritten

 

       comments by the investigators on the margins of the

 

       pages of the case report forms.  Such forms and

 

       comments were not available and it is in the

 

       context of these limitations that we must evaluate

 

       the safety of this product.  Evaluation of safety

 

       in this fragile population receiving systemic

 

       immunosuppression and numerous medications is

 

       admittedly complicated.

 

                 There are no prospectively designed case

 

       report forms to guide the systematic collection of

 

       safety data throughout the conduct of the study

 

       including but not limited to the use of concomitant

 

       medications used to prevent or treat the

 

       complications associated with the administration of

 

       study drug.  Clinical safety data was collected

 

       retrospectively from source materials from one

 

       double-blind, controlled study and a number of
 

 

 

 

 

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       small open-label, uncontrolled studies at the

 

       University of Pittsburgh Medical Center.

 

       Comparative safety data is available on only 26

 

       randomized subjects in study ACS001, or 36 subjects

 

       that include the first 10 non-randomized subjects

 

       from the study.  Additional non-comparative safety

 

       data was obtained in report ACS002 by pooling data

 

       from seven open-label, uncontrolled studies that

 

       enrolled 70 lung transplant recipients who were

 

       receiving similar tacrolimus-based systemic

 

       immunosuppression.

 

                 Subjects in study ACS001 were titrated in

 

       a double-blind fashion to a maximum tolerated dose

 

       not to exceed 300 mg or the propylene glycol

 

       control equivalent.  That dose was then to be

 

       administered three times a week for up to two

 

       years.  As mentioned earlier, there was a great

 

       variation in dose, 100 mg to 300 mg per day, the

 

       number of doses administered and, consequently,

 

       duration of exposure.  I think we have seen those

 

       slides before.  Subjects also received per protocol

 

       premedication with aerosolized lidocaine and
 

 

 

 

 

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       bronchodilators to improve tolerance.

 

                 This slide comes from the integrated

 

       summary of safety and lists basically the adverse

 

       events that occurred with a statistical

 

       significance of greater than 10 percent.  I think

 

       we are in general agreement with the applicant's

 

       description of the safety data they were able to

 

       collect.  We do note that there seemed to have been

 

       more respiratory, and thoracic adverse events in

 

       the cyclosporine group compared to the propylene

 

       glycol group.  In all these categories, of course,

 

       as I mentioned before, the significance was greater

 

       than 10 percent.  As in the 28-day preclinical

 

       animal studies, there was a sham treatment group to

 

       help discern the potential contribution of inhaled

 

       propylene glycol to the respiratory tolerability in

 

       both treatment groups.  Here we do see that more

 

       events occurred in the cyclosporine group.  These

 

       findings in general are consistent with the

 

       respiratory safety findings that were found in the

 

       28-day preclinical animal studies.

 

                 Another thing we look at when we are
 

 

 

 

 

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       evaluating safety is the discontinuations and

 

       withdrawal of consent.  Although a greater

 

       proportion of subjects in the propylene glycol

 

       group, 33 percent, were reported to discontinue

 

       study drug due to an adverse event, other than

 

       death, than in the cyclosporine group, 15 percent,

 

       this comparison must be interpreted with caution.

 

                 Six patients in the cyclosporine group, or

 

       23 percent, were reported to have discontinued due

 

       to withdrawal consent compared to none in the

 

       propylene glycol group.  Further examination of the

 

       individual case report forms revealed a number of

 

       respiratory adverse events associated with the

 

       study drug administration which could have

 

       influenced their continued willingness to

 

       participate in the study.  Taken together, a

 

       similar proportion of subjects discontinued study

 

       drug due to adverse events or tolerability in the

 

       propylene glycol group and the cyclosporine group.

 

                 We also have some non-comparative data

 

       that was presented in report ACS002 from a pool of

 

       70 lung transplant recipients.  Again, these
 

 

 

 

 

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       represent a variety of lung transplant types,

 

       mostly patients with refractory acute rejection

 

       and/or OB who were treated with cyclosporine

 

       inhalation solution in seven open-label,

 

       uncontrolled studies at UPMC.  They were also

 

       receiving systemic tacrolimus-based

 

       immunosuppression.  These, again, represent an

 

       experience of a wide range of dosing and duration

 

       of treatment, which is really very difficult to

 

       interpret.  Patients were generally administered

 

       the maximum tolerated dose which was individualized

 

       and depended on the characteristics of the patients

 

       and their response to medication.

 

                 In summary, the overall safety database is

 

       smaller than usually expected in a commercial

 

       application.  Respiratory adverse events were

 

       common despite premedication and limited the

 

       maximum doses used and the durations of the

 

       treatment.  Data available in the study report and

 

       case report forms did not allow us to fully

 

       evaluate a temporal relationship between study drug

 

       administration and particular adverse events. 
 

 

 

 

 

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       Ultimately the acceptability of the safety

 

       information in this NDA must be weighed against the

 

       degree of certainty of the potential clinical

 

       benefit.

 

                 These are briefly our conclusions:  We

 

       have a single small study.  There is no effect on

 

       the primary endpoint of acute rejection or on

 

       measurements of pulmonary function of FEV1 or

 

       bronchiolitis obliterans syndrome.  There are

 

       differences observed in mortality and bronchiolitis

 

       obliterans.  There also important imbalances in the

 

       donor/recipient baseline characteristics.  There

 

       are also variable causes of death, most with no

 

       evidence of bronchiolitis obliterans syndrome.

 

       There is variable dosing in both groups, and we

 

       have limited safety information.

 

                 At this point, I would like to turn the

 

       podium over to Dr. Jyoti Zalkikar who will present

 

       the statistical perspective of this review.  Thank

 

       you.

 

                          Statistical Evaluation

 

                 DR. ZALKIKAR:  Hello.  My name is Jyoti
 

 

 

 

 

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       Zalkikar.  I am the statistical reviewer for the

 

       application for Pulminiq, which is the trade name

 

       for cyclosporine inhalation solution.

 

                 I will be focusing on the efficacy of the

 

       product during this presentation.  As you know, the

 

       efficacy of this product is based on just one small

 

       Phase II, single-center study conducted at the

 

       University of Pittsburgh Medical Center.  This was

 

       not designed as a confirmatory study.  The planned

 

       sample size was 136 patients as per the applicant's

 

       study report.  The investigators did not use case

 

       report forms during the conduct of the study.

 

       These were generated retrospectively by the

 

       applicant.  Also, there was no prospective

 

       statistical data analysis plan and no formal

 

       stopping rules.

 

                 The study began in 1997.  The first 10

 

       patients were who were enrolled received

 

       cyclosporine as part of the open-label pilot phase.

 

       The next 58 patients were randomized to either

 

       cyclosporine with propylene glycol as vehicle or

 

       propylene glycol alone.  Two of these patients did
 

 

 

 

 

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       not receive any dose of the study medication and

 

       were excluded from all analyses.  The applicant

 

       says that the enrollment was stopped in August,

 

       2001 at 68 patients.  The study was vehicle

 

       controlled.  As you know, all subjects received

 

       systemic immunosuppression.

 

                 Now I will briefly go over some aspects of

 

       the study design.  As per the initial design, the

 

       patients were to be enrolled from 7-21 days after

 

       the transplant.  But later a 22-42 days window was

 

       added to speed up the enrollment.  Three patients

 

       out of the total of 56 were enrolled past 42 days

 

       after their transplant.  Randomization was

 

       stratified by the enrollment window and CMV

 

       mismatch.  Donor positive/recipient negative was

 

       defined as a mismatch and all other combinations of

 

       donor and recipient CMV status were called a match.

 

       Two out of 56 patients were incorrectly stratified.

 

       Patients were to be on treatment daily for the

 

       first 10 days and 3 times a week thereafter for a

 

       total of 2 years.  Thirty out of the 56 patients

 

       discontinued treatment early.  All 56 patients were
 

 

 

 

 

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       followed for at least 33 months in the data

 

       submitted with the NDA.  That is the database I

 

       will be using in this presentation.

 

                 Evaluation of survival and chronic

 

       rejection were not the primary objectives in the

 

       study.  The prespecified primary objective was

 

       superiority over propylene glycol in terms of the

 

       rate of acute rejection.  The study failed to

 

       achieve that objective.  In fact, the mean number

 

       of acute rejections was slightly higher in the

 

       cyclosporine group.

 

                 Here is the graph for survival

 

       distributions in the two arms.  This graph is based

 

       on all the data submitted with the NDA and,

 

       therefore, is slightly different from the one based

 

       on the study end date that was previously

 

       presented.  The 24-month line indicates the end of

 

       protocol specified treatment period.  When we saw

 

       this dramatic survival difference at the pre-NDA

 

       meeting we were excited and encouraged the

 

       applicant to submit the application.

 

                 When the NDA was submitted, given that the
 

 

 

 

 

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       trial had failed on the primary endpoint, the

 

       challenge for the review team was to determine if

 

       the observed survival difference was due to

 

       cyclosporine inhalation solution.

 

                 One of the first things we found was the

 

       baseline imbalance between the two treatment

 

       groups.  Although randomized, due to a small sample

 

       size, the study failed to benefit from

 

       randomization.  Several baseline factors that

 

       clinicians consider to influence patient survival

 

       are not balanced between the two groups.  This

 

       means that the two groups are not comparable for

 

       evaluating survival or chronic rejection.

 

                 Here are the factors that show imbalance.

 

       All of these are statistically significant at the

 

       10 percent level, with the exception of grade

 

       2-plus acute rejection prior to dosing.  Dr.

 

       Hernandez has discussed the clinical importance of

 

       the influence of these factors on patient survival.

 

       All patients in the study had at least one of these

 

       risk factors.

 

                 Here is the nature of the imbalance.  The
 

 

 

 

 

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       yellow bars represent patients in the propylene

 

       glycol group and the red bars represent patients in

 

       the cyclosporine group.  As you can see, the

 

       majority of the cyclosporine patients are on the

 

       left, with two or less risk factors, whereas the

 

       majority of the propylene glycol patients are on

 

       the right side, with three or more risk factors.

 

       This can occur in randomized trials, and more so in

 

       the trials with small sample sizes such as this

 

       one.  That is why it is important to prespecify the

 

       primary endpoint so that appropriate stratification

 

       may variables can be used at randomization to

 

       control for at least some factors known to

 

       influence that primary endpoint.  The study could

 

       not accomplish that since the primary endpoint was

 

       not survival or chronic rejection.

 

                 In this situation statistical methods can

 

       be used to adjust for these imbalances, but using

 

       these methods to adjust for factors individually

 

       one at a time is not appropriate as the groups are

 

       still not comparable due to imbalances with respect

 

       to the other factors.  For simultaneous adjustment
 

 

 

 

 

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       for all the factors the sample size is too small in

 

       the study.

 

                 We also considered methods that in some

 

       situations allow us to handle a large number of

 

       factors such as propensity scores, but these have

 

       limitations and there are underlying assumptions

 

       that need to be validated.

 

                 So, given that the trial failed to show a

 

       difference in terms of the primary endpoint of

 

       acute rejection, given the absence of prospectively

 

       defined analysis plan including statistical details

 

       such as multiplicity adjustments and stopping

 

       rules, and given the baseline imbalances with

 

       respect to many factors, the validity of any

 

       further inferential statistical analyses on the

 

       data from this trial is questionable and lends to

 

       caution.

 

                 Now I would like to draw your attention to

 

       another problem the review team faced.  The study

 

       was designed as a double-blind study but, as you

 

       have heard, a code A, B, C, D was added to the

 

       patient number to aid pharmacy in preparing study
 

 

 

 

 

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       medication.  Patients with A and D in their patient

 

       number received propylene glycol and patients with

 

       B and C received cyclosporine.  The applicant

 

       stated in their study report that this may have

 

       revealed a treatment assignment to the

 

       investigators.  This fact, together with the

 

       retrospective nature of the study, makes it

 

       vulnerable to the introduction of bias, as

 

       inadvertent as it may be.  For example, if the

 

       investigators knew that patients were getting

 

       propylene glycol they may have adjusted systemic

 

       immunosuppression to compensate for the lack of

 

       cyclosporine, inadvertently predisposing the

 

       patients to infections like pneumonia and sepsis

 

       which were among the leading causes of death in the

 

       study, as discussed by Dr. Hernandez.  Detection of

 

       the presence and magnitude of bias is difficult,

 

       but its possibility certainly lends to caution when

 

       interpreting the study results.

 

                 Now I would like to illustrate how small

 

       perturbations in the assignment of the subjects in

 

       a small study such as this one can change the
 

 

 

 

 

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       picture dramatically.  Here is a graph of survival

 

       distributions again.  Please notice that there were

 

       three early deaths in the control arm due to

 

       pneumonia and sepsis.  These patients received very

 

       few doses of the study medication.  The review team

 

       felt that these deaths were not expected to be

 

       influenced by the treatment assignment.  There are

 

       eight different possible ways to assign these three

 

       patients to the two groups.  The current assignment

 

       is the only assignment that results in statistical

 

       significance in terms of the p value.  For

 

       assignments in which one of these patients gets

 

       assigned to the cyclosporine arm the p value is

 

       over five percent.  For assignments in which two of

 

       these patients get assigned to the cyclosporine

 

       arm, the p value is over 12 percent.  And one

 

       possible assignment in which all 3 patients get

 

       assigned to the cyclosporine arm uses this picture.

 

       This is completely different and no longer shows a

 

       survival difference.  This illustration shows that

 

       due to small sample size the results of the study

 

       are extremely sensitive to very small perturbations
 

 

 

 

 

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       in the assignment of the patients.

 

                 Now let's look at the discontinuations.

 

       More than 50 percent of the patients in the study

 

       discontinued for various reasons.  Please note that

 

       there were six patients who withdrew consent.  They

 

       all were in the cyclosporine arm.  One of them was

 

       crossed over to the open-label cyclosporine study.

 

       All of these patients were followed for survival

 

       even after the withdrawal of consent.

 

                 This table shows the number of doses

 

       received by the patients in the study.  As you can

 

       see, there is large variation in the amount of

 

       treatment received.  Please note that there are 11

 

       subjects who received less than 25 doses, which is

 

       less than 10 percent of their protocol specified

 

       treatment.  Four of these 11 subjects received only

 

       one or two doses.  As discussed by Dr. Hernandez,

 

       the review team felt that this short duration of

 

       treatment would not be expected to result in

 

       significant benefit to the patients.

 

                 Therefore, we conducted sensitivity

 

       analyses to assess the impact of the data from
 

 

 

 

 

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       these patients.  In the first analysis we would

 

       exclude all 11 patients.  Here are the results.

 

       The survival difference is no longer statistically

 

       significant.

 

                 In the second analysis we will treat the

 

       six cyclosporine patients as a control patients.

 

       So, we will have 20 patients in the cyclosporine

 

       arm and 36 patients in the control arm.  And here

 

       are the results.  Once again the survival

 

       difference is no longer statistically significant.

 

                 In the third sensitivity analysis we

 

       define treatment failure as death or

 

       discontinuation within 25 doses due to either

 

       adverse events or withdrawal of consent, and we

 

       analyzed time to treatment failure.  Here are the

 

       results.  These results do not show a difference

 

       between the two arms in terms of time to treatment

 

       failure.

 

                 I recognize that all these sensitivity

 

       analyses are subject to criticism, but the point is

 

       that the data from subjects who discontinued very

 

       early and received very little treatment has a big
 

 

 

 

 

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       impact on the study results, as shown by these

 

       sensitivity analyses.  This certainly lends to

 

       caution when interpreting the study results.

 

                 Now moving away from survival, I will

 

       briefly go over some results related to lung

 

       function.  Here is the descriptive data on FEV1

 

       previously discussed by Dr. Hernandez.  Please

 

       recall that data on pre-enrollment is missing for

 

       43 percent of the patients in the study.  But the

 

       available data shows lower FEV1 values on average

 

       for the propylene glycol arm at pre-enrollment

 

       compared to the cyclosporine arm.  This may very

 

       well be the effect of observed baseline imbalance

 

       with respect to the type of lung transplant among

 

       other factors.

 

                 Here is the graph of these numbers.  The

 

       lines for the cyclosporine and the control arm are

 

       parallel over the length of the study, showing that

 

       treatment with cyclosporine had no effect on lung

 

       function in terms of FEV1.  This, together with the

 

       observed survival difference, raises an interesting

 

       question.  Is it plausible that the patients in the
 

 

 

 

 

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       PG arm were predisposed at pre-enrollment due to

 

       compromised lung function to a higher probability

 

       of getting serious infections such as pneumonia and

 

       sepsis and then dying from them?  If so, how can

 

       one adjust for this phenomenon to get an unbiased

 

       estimate of the treatment effect in terms of

 

       survival in this small data set, where nearly 43

 

       percent of the pre-enrollment FEV1 values were

 

       missing?

 

                 Here is a graph of time to BOS as defined

 

       by the applicant when patients who died without

 

       diagnosis of BOS were censored at the time of last

 

       follow-up for BOS.  This analysis is subject to

 

       criticism of informative censoring but it helps to

 

       assess the effect of cyclosporine on BOS in the

 

       absence of a survival difference.  Again,

 

       consistent with the analysis of FEV1, the

 

       difference between the two arms is not significant.

 

                 Please recall that there were 10 patients

 

       who received cyclosporine as part of the open-label

 

       phase of the study.  There was very limited

 

       information on these patients but here is some that
 

 

 

 

 

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       was available.  Please note that these 10 patients

 

       showed remarkable similarity with the propylene

 

       glycol group in terms of 2 important factors, the

 

       type of lung transplant and emphysema as the

 

       underlying condition requiring lung transplant.

 

                 So, we overlaid the survival curves from

 

       these 10 patients.  Please keep in mind that the

 

       patients were not randomized to this group so

 

       direct statistical comparison is not possible.  But

 

       given that, this group does not seem to support the

 

       survival difference between the randomized

 

       cyclosporine group and the propylene glycol group.

 

                 In summary, the study failed to

 

       demonstrate effect in terms of the prespecified

 

       primary endpoint of acute rejection.  Several

 

       baseline factors considered to affect patient

 

       survival were not balanced between the two arms.

 

       There were concerns that blinding may not have been

 

       adequately preserved in the conduct of the study.

 

       The study is also highly sensitive to small

 

       perturbations in the assignment of patients.

 

       Patients who discontinued early and received very
 

 

 

 

 

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       little treatment had a big impact on the study

 

       results.  The study failed to demonstrate a

 

       treatment effect in terms of FEV1 and BOS, and

 

       additional data were not supportive.

 

                 So, the question still remains is the

 

       observed survival difference between the two arms

 

       in the randomized portion of the trial due to

 

       cyclosporine inhalation solution or due to other

 

       factors?  This concludes the FDA presentations.

 

                   Questions from the Panel (Continued)

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  We are ahead of time here

 

       and there were a number of questions that were left

 

       from the previous session.  I believe we could

 

       probably open it up to both the applicant and the

 

       FDA.  So, let me begin with Dr. Sampson.

 

                 DR. SAMPSON:  I had a number of questions,

 

       this one to both the applicant and the FDA.  It is

 

       still not clear to me about the actual data that

 

       was collected in the original UPMC study and the

 

       data that was collected retrospectively.  I

 

       understand the safety data was primarily

 

       retrospective but, for example, was the designation
 

 

 

 

 

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       of BOS at a specific time point designated in the

 

       charts as occurring at that time point, or was that

 

       made by reviewing the charts and saying yes/no

 

       there was BOS at that time point?  I think I have

 

       asked that question appropriately.

 

                 The other thing is when the charts were

 

       reviewed, were these reviewed blinded to treatment

 

       or did the reviewer know the treatment the patient

 

       was on?  I have several other questions in addition

 

       but just give me some information on that, please.

 

                 DR. CAPRA:  You are correct that the

 

       safety data was collected retrospectively.  The

 

       efficacy data consisted of survival, the results of

 

       the histology, the FEV1 data which was used to

 

       calculate BOS.  The survival data was obtained on

 

       CRFs but retrospectively but it was confirmed

 

       through the source data with the autopsy reports.

 

       The results of the transbronchial biopsies were

 

       sent electronically from the University of

 

       Pittsburgh to Chiron.  So, we didn't collect that

 

       information on case report forms.  They basically

 

       maintained the database throughout the study and
 

 

 

 

 

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       they sent that database electronically to Chiron.

 

       Similarly, the FEV1 data and their lab data as well

 

       were collected on a central database at the

 

       University of Pittsburgh Medical Center.  Those

 

       data were sent electronically to Chiron as well.

 

       So, none of the efficacy data, with the exception

 

       of the actual survival days, were collected on

 

       retrospective case report forms.

 

                 DR. SAMPSON:  There is something there

 

       that says 20 percent reduction in FEV1 in the

 

       presence of no other clinical symptoms.  How would

 

       that be determined just purely from FEV1?  Is it

 

       just such an automatic algorithm that you don't

 

       look at other clinical symptoms, or was there a

 

       judgment made on that?

 

                 DR. NOONBERG:  Well, it is a definition

 

       that was determined by a consensus group from the

 

       International Society of Heart and Lung

 

       Transplantation and the definition of BOS grade 1

 

       or higher--and there is successive grading--is 20

 

       percent decline in FEV1 from a post-transplant

 

       maximum.  Now, post-transplant maximum generally
 

 

 

 

 

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       doesn't occur for three to six months due to

 

       postoperative factors.  So, the missing early

 

       FEV1's are not expected to influence at all the

 

       designation of BOS because all patients, unless

 

       they die early, increase their FEV1 up to a period

 

       of time, generally an average of about three to

 

       four or five months.  Then that post-transplant

 

       maximum, a rolling average, is used as their

 

       baseline from which you determine a 20 percent

 

       decline.  So, that is how the definition is and

 

       that is not set by us; that was a definition

 

       proposed by the International Society for Heart,

 

       Lung Transplantation.  The 20 percent was just

 

       programmatically defined and then we reviewed the

 

       cases to determine that there were no other

 

       clinical causes which were defined as acute

 

       rejection, concurrent pneumonias or other clinical

 

       causes that would impair lung function.

 

                 DR. SAMPSON:  Again, were all the

 

       retrospective chart reviews done by people--was it

 

       possible to blind them to the treatment assignment,

 

       or did they know the treatment assignment when they
 

 

 

 

 

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       did the chart reviews?

 

                 DR. NOONBERG:  Treatment assignment was

 

       known at the time of chart review.

 

                 DR. SAMPSON:  I would like to switch gears

 

       and ask a different question that I have been

 

       puzzling a little bit over, and that is the study

 

       design stratified by two variables, the CMV

 

       match/mismatch and the start date.  I don't recall

 

       seeing survival data--there is possibly something

 

       for the CMV mismatch, but does the sponsor have

 

       survival data done by strata?  In particular, one

 

       of the standard questions when you have a

 

       stratification factor in any clinical trial is the

 

       question of whether or not there is strata by

 

       treatment interaction; whether or not the survival

 

       is comparable across strata; is it something that

 

       is poolable?  And I have not seen any demonstration

 

       of that, I don't think, for this data either for

 

       CMV match/mismatch or the start post day 21.  I was

 

       hoping you might have slides on that some place as

 

       backup.

 

                 DR. CAPRA:  Can we see slide CE-18,
 

 

 

 

 

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       please?  Unfortunately, I don't have the analysis

 

       here just limited to two stratification factors but

 

       the results are consistent.  But here, in the last

 

       row of this slide, we show the survival analysis

 

       where the 2 stratification factors, as well as the

 

       other known risk factors that were imbalanced and

 

       were agreed to by both Chiron and the FDA, were

 

       included, namely, single versus double lung

 

       transplant, prior acute rejection, and primary

 

       diagnosis.  The results show a significant value of

 

       0.032 with a consistent p value. The results aren't

 

       shown here but the results are very similar when

 

       you just limit it to CMV mismatch and the primary

 

       diagnosis.

 

                 DR. SAMPSON:  I did some sketching of my

 

       own.  I don't have it with me for the CMV

 

       match/mismatch.  I think you have some of that

 

       data, don't you, in the document?  It is page 17 in

 

       the document.

 

                 DR. CAPRA:  Can we put slide BD-5 up,

 

       please?  You are correct, in the briefing document

 

       there is a table showing the number of deaths by
 

 

 

 

 

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       the CMV match and mismatch.  For those who had a

 

       CMV match, 51 percent of those--I am sorry, this is

 

       on chronic rejection-free survival.  Can we have

 

       BD-3?  For survival data, 39 percent of the placebo

 

       subjects who had a CMV match died versus 14 percent

 

       of the cyclosporine.  Among the mismatches, 71

 

       percent of placebo, 0 percent for cyclosporine.

 

       The numbers are small but what we are not seeing is

 

       we are not seeing the survival effect limited to

 

       just one of the two subgroups.

 

                 DR. SAMPSON:  Again, I agree that the

 

       sample sizes are small, but it looks like there is

 

       quite a bit of difference in the effect of CyIS

 

       depending on whether you are a match or mismatch.

 

       I realize that is the log-rank but I am trying to

 

       figure out if it is comparable across both arms.

 

       Would you have just a log-rank statistic on the

 

       matched group alone for the folks that had the CMV

 

       match?  Is there really a significant difference in

 

       survival based on 9 and 23 and 3 and 21?

 

                 DR. CAPRA:  I don't have that log-rank

 

       limited to that subgroup.
 

 

 

 

 

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                 DR. SAMPSON:  And then you don't have

 

       anything on the other stratification variable?

 

                 DR. CAPRA:  We looked at that similarly

 

       where you see that in the case of the breakdown is

 

       limited to 1 into 2 subgroups.  But, you know, the

 

       numbers are small and what we did was we did a

 

       stratified log-rank rather than do a log-rank by

 

       subgroups because the numbers are limited.

 

                 DR. SAMPSON:  There wouldn't be an

 

       interaction here though.  I mean, that is clear at

 

       least for the CMV mismatch, but you don't have that

 

       data for the other--

 

                 DR. CAPRA:  We looked at the interactions

 

       between the major risk factors and we didn't see

 

       any significant interactions, nor interactions with

 

       those major risk factors with the treatment effect.

 

                 DR. SCHOENFELD:  I am curious about one

 

       other thing.  You know, I looked at the AR data.

 

       There is a real difficulty even analyzing that

 

       data.  For instance, the three patients who died

 

       early, they may have been the bad actors and they

 

       may have been the ones that would have had a lot of
 

 

 

 

 

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       acute rejections.  So, I don't know if either you

 

       or the FDA made any attempt at trying to

 

       analyze--you know, it is a strange situations when

 

       the primary endpoint is essentially an endpoint

 

       which is un-analyzable.  It comes from the fact

 

       that I assume you assumed there would be no

 

       survival difference so you chose an endpoint that

 

       is very hard to analyze in the face of a survival

 

       difference.  So, was any attempt made to model

 

       that?  I don't see the study as negative in terms

 

       of the AR difference.

 

                 DR. CAPRA:  We looked at AR-free survival

 

       but what happens is the ARs are occurring very

 

       quickly and I didn't feel that that was necessarily

 

       as meaningful on average because the effect seems

 

       to be limited quite early in the first couple of

 

       months.

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  Dr. Mannon?

 

                 DR. MANNON:  I had a couple of questions

 

       and a continuation so let me just pose one to both

 

       the applicant and FDA.  There was a comment made

 

       about drug levels between the two groups.  That
 

 

 

 

 

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       information isn't always clinically obtained.  Do

 

       you have a sense of mean levels over time between

 

       the two groups both for tacrolimus and/or

 

       cyclosporine between the two groups?

 

                 DR. NOONBERG:  We looked at mean blood

 

       levels of tacrolimus.  It is really dosed by levels

 

       rather than by actual doses, and at the three-month

 

       time points the results were always comparable

 

       between the two groups.  We also looked at

 

       prednisone doses between the two groups and they

 

       were comparable as well.  We looked at

 

       immunosuppressive intensifications between the two

 

       groups and that was also comparable.

 

                 DR. MANNON:  But these are three-month

 

       levels that you were measuring.  So, then looking

 

       at the comparability later of intensification, that

 

       is based on dose again or based on level?

 

                 DR. NOONBERG:  I am sorry, can you repeat

 

       that?

 

                 DR. MANNON:  So, the levels that you had

 

       at three months where you saw no difference between

 

       the two groups--
 

 

 

 

 

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                 DR. NOONBERG:  Three months, six months,

 

       nine months, all the way up through final.

 

                 DR. MANNON:  My second question deals with

 

       nephrology insofar as there appeared to be a

 

       significant increase in perioperative renal failure

 

       between the propylene glycol versus the CyIS.  What

 

       was the sense of serum creatinine or calculated

 

       creatinine clearances between the two groups, say,

 

       at six months and 12 months?  Also as a second part

 

       of that question, was there a difference in the

 

       possibility of dialysis or intervention of dialysis

 

       between the two groups?

 

                 DR. NOONBERG:  We looked at creatinine

 

       levels because we had all the laboratory values

 

       transferred electronically to Chiron, and we didn't

 

       see any difference in creatinine levels at the same

 

       specified time periods.  moxifloxacin

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  Dr. Hunsicker?

 

                 DR. HUNSICKER:  Yes, I would like to

 

       address a question both to Drs. Zalkikar and also,

 

       if he is still willing to talk about things, Dr.

 

       Helms.  I am interested in what I might call study
 

 

 

 

 

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       ascertainment bias.  This is a small study.  Let me

 

       again start out by saying that the reason that we

 

       are here is that there was a striking p value for

 

       the difference in survival.  So, that p value is

 

       reasonable if it is a true p value that is not a

 

       selected p value.  The company has described how

 

       they became involved in this as having been told by

 

       a rep. that there was a study that was remarkably

 

       positive.  So, we have here now a selected study.

 

       This is a classic issue in selection bias of

 

       studies, or what is called publication bias, and I

 

       would like to have both Dr. Zalkikar and also Dr.

 

       Helms discuss how seriously we should take this

 

       primary p value given that it was a study that was

 

       selected on the basis that the p value was highly

 

       significant, without knowing how many studies it

 

       might have been selected from.  What I am basically

 

       doing is challenging whether the primary p value is

 

       a real p value.  Did you understand my question,

 

       Dr. Zalkikar?

 

                 DR. ZALKIKAR:  The primary p value was

 

       actually the p value associated with acute
 

 

 

 

 

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       rejection because that was the primary endpoint.

 

                 DR. HUNSICKER:  No, I am sorry, I am not

 

       talking about the designed study's primary p value.

 

       I am saying that we are looking at this study

 

       because it has a p value of 0.007, as I recall.  Is

 

       that something that we can rely on, that this is

 

       truly an unexpected result based on chance given

 

       that the study was selected based on the fact that

 

       there was a very highly significant primary p

 

       value?

 

                 DR. ZALKIKAR:  From the only analysis that

 

       I have seen in the data, I would be very concerned

 

       that the study was selected in terms of the p

 

       value.

 

                 DR. HELMS:  You remind me of a couple of

 

       students in my linear models class who always ask

 

       the tough questions.  I think the short answer is

 

       that the p value that is reported with the

 

       Kaplan-Meier curve is not a real p value.  I have

 

       warned you in one of my slides that the opinions I

 

       express are not those of Chiron or FDA, or anybody

 

       else perhaps.  There is some obvious selection
 

 

 

 

 

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       going on here.

 

                 But if you will let me be informal for a

 

       moment, the difference is so big it passes the

 

       intraocular trauma test--it hits you between the

 

       eyes.  So, if there were a good statistical

 

       procedure--I also made the point in my slides that

 

       this is the primary problem here.  This is the real

 

       problem that we are facing because we don't have a

 

       real p value.  As I said, we could do the decision

 

       theory analysis.  But, again, if you didn't want to

 

       approve it you could question the assumptions, and

 

       so on.  But the difference is so huge that we

 

       cannot ignore it.  So, the short answer to your

 

       question is no, the p value--I mean, you could put

 

       in as many decimal places as you wanted; it is

 

       computed, but it is not a real p value in that

 

       sense.

 

                 Let me make a point that might help, and

 

       my statistical colleagues can correct me.

 

       Basically, this is high stakes gambling, and the

 

       best people at gambling in the world are the

 

       casinos and there are certain bets in a casino
 

 

 

 

 

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       where you get partial data and then you can place

 

       an additional bet.  Black Jack is one of those.  I

 

       am not an expert at that.  We are in that kind of a

 

       situation.  We now have the results.  How striking

 

       are these values?  And it is very difficult for

 

       statisticians to come up with real answers to that

 

       question.  We have to bounce back to common sense.

 

                 DR. HUNSICKER:  If I might, I do have one

 

       other question.  There seems to be a difference

 

       between the survival curves that we have been shown

 

       by the company and by the FDA based on time to

 

       either BOS or death, depending upon exactly how the

 

       BOS has been defined.  I am not sure I understand

 

       whose graph is the one that I should be looking at.

 

       As I understand it--and I am putting this question

 

       to both groups--as I am understanding it, the

 

       company has shown us that if you look at time to

 

       BOS, when you include death when it is presumed to

 

       be due to BOS there is a significant difference.  I

 

       think you showed 0.01, or something like that.

 

       When the FDA showed this based on censoring all of

 

       the patients whose death was not proved to be due
 

 

 

 

 

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       to BOS, when that BOS was defined according to a

 

       specific thing, it was no longer significant.  I do

 

       not understand what the discrepancy is here.  Can

 

       this be clarified for me by the company and by the

 

       FDA?

 

                 DR. CAVAILLE-COLL:  Well, I think that all

 

       the BOS-free survival is largely driven by the

 

       difference that is observed in mortality, and we

 

       tried to look at it differently.  Is there a

 

       possible way of seeing an effect on BOS?  Looking

 

       at the FEV1 plots, we don't believe that there

 

       really is a treatment effect on BOS.  Certainly, we

 

       were not able to use the definition of the

 

       International Society of Heart, Lung

 

       Transplantation because the baseline would require

 

       the average of two maximum values more than three

 

       weeks apart.  We didn't have that type of database.

 

       So, we were able to look at it basically based on

 

       the applicant's definition, but we are really very

 

       concerned about the completeness of the collection

 

       of that data.

 

                 I also want to go back to another issue
 

 

 

 

 

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       having to do with the background immunosuppression.

 

       That information was not available in the original

 

       application.  We had to request some of that

 

       information from the company, and they even said

 

       there was a lot of difficulty in collecting that.

 

       Therefore, we asked them to provide us at least

 

       with some summary statistics of what would be the

 

       mean exposure at certain time points to at least

 

       give ourselves a qualitative impression of whether

 

       there was similar treatment between the two groups.

 

       But this is certainly a very unconventional

 

       application and we did not have the level of detail

 

       that we normally get in an application.

 

                 DR. HUNSICKER:  Could I get the company to

 

       clarify for me then?  If you use your definition of

 

       BOS, which we understand cannot be ISHLT's

 

       definition because you don't have the baselines--if

 

       you use yours and do time to BOS, whether it was

 

       ascertained at death or otherwise, do you or do you

 

       not find a significant difference?

 

                 DR. CAPRA:  We find a significant

 

       difference and there are two differences between
 

 

 

 

 

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       our analysis and FDA's.  Number one reason is the

 

       informative censoring because we are including

 

       deaths as an endpoint, as occurs by FDA's own

 

       guidelines for oncology studies.  I also want to

 

       make the point that we did get all the FEV1 values

 

       electronically from the Pittsburgh database.  There

 

       were no values that were missing from our data.

 

                 The second difference is that we are

 

       including in a definition of chronic rejection both

 

       BOS, as determined by a sustained decrease in FEV1,

 

       and OB, defined by presence of OB or change on

 

       bronchial biopsy.

 

                 If we could show slide CE-30, please.

 

       Combined in that chronic rejection analysis we are

 

       including as chronic rejection either OB or BOS.

 

       When we censor those patients and, granted,

 

       informative censoring is going to bias against the

 

       treatment groups, we still get a significant value

 

       of 0.015 in favor of the treatment group.

 

                 This is an analysis of chronic

 

       rejection-free survival with deaths censored, and

 

       it demonstrates that inhaled cyclosporine prevented
 

 

 

 

 

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       chronic rejection.  So, the effect of cyclosporine

 

       on chronic rejection was not determined solely by

 

       mortality.

 

                 DR. HUNSICKER:  If I could be clear on

 

       this because I think it is a fairly important

 

       thing, Dr. Cavaille-Coll, do you agree that this is

 

       an accurate survival curve, assuming that you are

 

       now looking at time to chronic rejection as

 

       evidenced either by BOS in accordance with the

 

       applicant's definition or biopsy documented OB?  Is

 

       that fair?

 

                 DR, CAVAILLE-COLL:  This is one of the

 

       retrospective analyses.  This was not from

 

       prospectively designed data analysis plan, and it

 

       is combining two things, OB as diagnosed by

 

       transbronchial biopsy, for which we know the

 

       sensitivity is fairly poor--the specificity is

 

       great but the sensitivity is very poor, and also

 

       bronchiolitis obliterans syndrome, which is the

 

       clinical description of that.  As we have seen

 

       before in the FEV1 plots, there really is no

 

       treatment effect.  If you want to look at it this
 

 

 

 

 

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       way I am not sure how we would interpret that p

 

       value when you are combining two different types of

 

       things.

 

                 DR. HUNSICKER:  But I am taking a

 

       clinician's judgment here that if there is anything

 

       that you can say, it is that when you have a biopsy

 

       documented OB, that is OB, for God's sake.  So, if

 

       you add biopsy documented OB into your analysis, do

 

       you then get this graph?

 

                 DR. CAVAILLE-COLL:  We didn't do this

 

       particular analysis and we didn't mix OB with BOS

 

       because BOS tells you something about the rate and

 

       the extent of progression.  The transbronchial

 

       biopsy doesn't tell you anything about the extent

 

       or the rate of progression so we didn't mix the

 

       two.

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  Dr. Hernandez, do you have a

 

       quick question here relevant to this?

 

                 DR. HERNANDEZ:  Yes.  I just want to make

 

       a comment from a clinical perspective.  When you

 

       are analyzing chronic rejection and you combine OB

 

       and BOS there are several things that you have to
 

 

 

 

 

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       take into consideration. The first is the natural

 

       history of the disease of chronic rejection.  It is

 

       something that can be rapidly progressing; it could

 

       be slowly progressing.  So, the diagnosis of OB by

 

       transbronchial biopsy in a patient that has a very

 

       slow progression is not of the same significance as

 

       the patient that has, you know, OB biopsy diagnosed

 

       that is rapidly progressive.  That is why the best

 

       surrogate marker is FEV1.

 

                 So, when we are trying to analyze by

 

       putting together two of these definitions for

 

       chronic rejection we come to that problem.  So, the

 

       problem of this natural history of the disease that

 

       we still do not understand is not only due to

 

       immunological causes.  There are other non-immunological

 

       causes that contribute to how this

 

       disease behaves.  So, basing our diagnosis and

 

       taking that as an endpoint as OB by biopsy becomes

 

       clinically not really meaningful because the bottom

 

       line is how well the patient is breathing, and FEV1

 

       as a diagnosis of BOS is really relevant.

 

                 DR. NOONBERG:  I just want to make the
 

 

 

 

 

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       point that Dr. Golden made initially, which is that

 

       OB and BOS are not two different entities.  They

 

       are clinical and histologic manifestations of the

 

       same process.  The problem with BOS is that you

 

       have to use an unexplained decline in FEV1 and we

 

       already know that BOS is intricately related with

 

       pneumonias so patients will often have pneumonia

 

       and, by definition, you have to say, "okay, not yet

 

       BOS," wait for the pneumonia to be treated and see

 

       whether the decline in FEV1 is still there and the

 

       patient gets another episode of pneumonia.

 

                 So, the diagnosis of BOS, exactly when you

 

       get BOS, is very hard to make, unlike

 

       transbronchial biopsy where you have that

 

       diagnosis.  Really it is a spectrum of disease and,

 

       therefore, we feel that both have their strengths

 

       and limitations in the diagnosis and the

 

       specificity and sensitivity, but they are the same

 

       clinical process.

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  Dr. Proschan?

 

                 DR. PROSCHAN:  Yes, I think that was a

 

       really good question Dr. Hunsicker asked and I just
 

 

 

 

 

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       wanted to clarify.  In your analysis--you may want

 

       to pull up a chair--

 

                 [Laughter]

 

                 --in the analysis that you did, are you

 

       saying you effectively used the composite endpoint,

 

       death or BOS, or did you only count deaths for

 

       which you could confirm there was BOS?

 

                 DR. CAPRA:  It was death or BOS.  In the

 

       analysis of chronic rejection-free survival we

 

       include all-cause mortality.  So, it is death or

 

       chronic rejection or both.

 

                 DR. HUNSICKER:  But is it not the case

 

       that the non-prospective--all of that

 

       stuff--analysis that showed time to either death

 

       with documented BOS or OB with death is not due to

 

       those documented, censored?

 

                 DR. CAPRA:  Yes, 0.015.  So, we looked at

 

       a sensitivity analysis where we censored deaths.

 

       So, we included just time to first case of chronic

 

       rejection, either OB or BOS, and we basically

 

       ignored death and that was significant.

 

                 DR. BRANTLY:  I still have one concern. 
 

 

 

 

 

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       The definition that the sponsor is using for BOS is

 

       20 percent drop.  Is that correct?

 

                 DR. CAPRA:  It is the 20 percent drop from

 

       the previous peak FEV1 that is unexplained by other

 

       clinical manifestations.

 

                 DR. BRANTLY:  My concern in using that is

 

       basically the difference between a double lung

 

       transplant and a single lung transplant because,

 

       obviously, if you use that 20 percent it is going

 

       to take a lot longer to drop to 20 percent on

 

       double lung than it is on single lung.

 

                 DR. CAPRA:  Not necessarily.  Dr.

 

       Zalkikar, in fact, showed that the double lungs had

 

       higher FEV1s and we agree with that.  But we are

 

       looking at a change, a decrease in 20 percent.  So,

 

       a double lung transplant subject who is starting

 

       with an FEV1 higher has more room to drop.

 

       Basically, what happens is you are controlling for

 

       that in the analysis because you are looking for a

 

       change from the previous values.

 

                 DR. SAMPSON:  Excuse me, we have seen OB

 

       or BOS censored by death.  We have seen BOS
 

 

 

 

 

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       censored by death.  Does somebody have OB censored

 

       by death?

 

                 DR. CAPRA:  We have that.

 

                 DR. SAMPSON:  Did you show it to us?  Did

 

       I miss that?

 

                 DR. CAPRA:  No, we haven't presented any

 

       of that.  It is one of our backups.  Can we look at

 

       SA-35?  Again, this is censoring deaths.  It

 

       includes informative censoring so it is going to be

 

       biased against the treatment group.  But when we

 

       look at this analysis we get a p value of 0.06 on

 

       time to first case of OB.

 

                 DR. SAMPSON:  And this is the deaths that

 

       resulted from OB that are included as an OB event?

 

       Correct?

 

                 DR. CAPRA:  No, but they would have had OB

 

       before.  It is only cases of OB documented through

 

       the histology.  We are ignoring deaths in the

 

       analysis.  We are censoring those subjects.  So,

 

       those subjects who died for other causes are

 

       basically censored in the analysis.  Subjects who

 

       had an OB and later died are included on the
 

 

 

 

 

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       Kaplan-Meier curves at the time of first case of

 

       OB, first diagnosis of OB.

 

                 DR. SAMPSON:  I am not asking the right

 

       question but I am going to try, were there subjects

 

       that did not show OB before death but on autopsy

 

       were diagnosed as dead primarily from OB?

 

                 DR. NOONBERG:  In our autopsy reports all

 

       patients that were said to have had OB were called

 

       OB, and none of the patients that we didn't say had

 

       OB have OB on autopsy.

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  Dr. Burdick?

 

                 DR. BURDICK:  I would like to think about

 

       the biology of what happens in the lung a little

 

       bit.  We have this huge difference between the two

 

       groups and you would have thought that if the huge

 

       difference is due to the only thing we think

 

       cyclosporine can be doing you would have a huge

 

       effect on what you think cyclosporine is supposed

 

       to be doing.  We have just had a long argument

 

       about OB and, leaving that aside, I am also

 

       concerned about the absence of effect on acute

 

       rejection.  If the tests we are looking at for both
 

 

 

 

 

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       OB or chronic rejection and acute rejection are

 

       meaningful, it is of some concern.

 

                 In particular, we have talked about

 

       systemic versus local effects and the biology of

 

       that, and I think that is a bit speculative at this

 

       point, as people have said, but one thing that is

 

       very clear is that cyclosporine is chemically very

 

       lipophilic and it ought to move rather quickly

 

       through the small distances between the bronchioles

 

       and the small vasculature.  I am concerned about

 

       the interpretation that somehow this is only

 

       affecting what is going on in the respiratory space

 

       and not in the vasculature nearby where it ought to

 

       have a big effect on acute rejection if it is an

 

       immunological effect that the cyclosporine is

 

       having.  So, I just wonder if there is anything

 

       more to be said about that.

 

                 DR. DILLY:  Because of the very phenomenon

 

       you describe, the lipophilicity, we know that when

 

       cyclosporine is given directly into the lung the

 

       plasma half-life is actually 40 hours as opposed to

 

       when it is given systemically where the plasma
 

 

 

 

 

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       half-life is six hours.  So, it is clearly sticking

 

       around in that compartment for a long time.

 

                 Now, one admittedly simplistic way of

 

       looking at this whole picture is that everyone was

 

       getting full dose of systemic immunosuppression.

 

       If you accept that acute rejection is largely

 

       driven from the vascular compartment you would

 

       expect it to be treated similarly in both groups

 

       because we believe, for the reasons you say about

 

       the short diffusion distances, there is really

 

       little difference between getting immunosuppression

 

       into the vascular compartment and diffusing out on

 

       both sides in terms of the vascular compartment.

 

                 In fact, we think the very lack of an

 

       effect on acute rejection makes the chronic

 

       rejection difference more meaningful because we

 

       don't have the confounding variable.  Imagine if

 

       were trying to interpret this study and there was a

 

       huge signal that cyclosporine had suppressed acute

 

       rejection, then we would all be standing here,

 

       saying, well, you can't then surmise it did

 

       anything to chronic rejection.  So, our hypothesis,
 

 

 

 

 

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       put really simply, is acute rejection was treated

 

       systemically; we are treating chronic rejection.

 

       The fact that there was no difference in acute

 

       rejection actually makes the effect on chronic

 

       rejection and survival more interpretable rather

 

       than less interpretable.  We are deliberately

 

       keeping it simple right now because that is the

 

       extent of our biological knowledge if we are really

 

       truthful about it.

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  Dr. Tisdale?

 

                 DR. TISDALE:  I am having trouble here.

 

       There are two pieces of data--I didn't mention when

 

       I introduced myself that I am a hematologist so I

 

       don't know anything  about the way that you grade

 

       BOS in this clinical context, but there are two

 

       pieces of objective data that I find very striking.

 

       One is the survival curves that you presented and

 

       the other is the analysis of FEV1, which are

 

       parallel.  So, to me these seem almost

 

       irreconcilable.  On the one hand, we have mortality

 

       decrease presumably due to decrease in chronic

 

       rejection, which should be shown by change in the
 

 

 

 

 

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       slope of the FEV1, much like you would see for

 

       creatinine in chronic allograft nephropathy.

 

                 So, I am wondering, number one, did you do

 

       the analysis for the FEV1 with all patients, or was

 

       that censored in some way?  If so, maybe somebody

 

       could comment to me on what is the proposed

 

       mechanism of action of inhaled cyclosporine if it

 

       doesn't prevent a decline in FEV1?

 

                 DR. CAPRA:  We did look at FEV1 in a

 

       number of ways.  We looked at changes from

 

       baseline.  Could we have slide SA-27 up, please?

 

       We saw a trend in favor of the active group.  This

 

       is a representative example, a 0.15 increase in the

 

       placebo group versus a 0.40 increase in the

 

       cyclosporine group.  It was not significant, as

 

       were all the analyses, but all the analyses did

 

       trend towards a favor of the active group.

 

                 Could we have the next slide, please?  We

 

       think the reason why is because of two reasons.

 

       Number one is informative censoring.  We are not

 

       able to get FEV1s on subjects after they are

 

       deceased.  Secondly, FEV1 is highly variable and it
 

 

 

 

 

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       is subject to short-term variations.  The BOS

 

       analysis basically ignores short-term variations

 

       and looks at a sustained 20 percent decrease in

 

       FEV1.  By sustained, it has to be for a period of

 

       at least 3 weeks.

 

                 So, ignoring the short-term variations and

 

       addressing the informative censoring what you have

 

       is an analysis of BOS-free survival and that was

 

       significant, with a p value of 0.019.  We are not

 

       claiming a direct effect on FEV1 because we did not

 

       hit that statistically in the analysis, but we do

 

       think that these data support that there seems to

 

       be some improvement in lung function, namely,

 

       through BOS-free survival.

 

                 DR. HUNSICKER:  Could I address that

 

       specific issue very quickly?  You said that you

 

       can't get the data after the people have died, and

 

       that is true, but you can do a mixed model and

 

       still get an accurate and relatively unbiased

 

       assessment of whether there is a difference in

 

       slope and I am surprised that that wasn't presented

 

       by either of you.
 

 

 

 

 

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                 DR. CAPRA:  We did look at slopes through

 

       a mixed model in the NDA and, again, that was not

 

       significant but the point estimate favored the

 

       active group.

 

                 DR. HUNSICKER:  That should eliminate some

 

       of the problems of missing data.

 

                 DR. NOONBERG:  One of the pieces that we

 

       looked at, since it is the heart of your question,

 

       is biological plausibility and, to simplify it,

 

       chronic rejection is mediated in the airway

 

       epithelium.  Dr. Golden has described that the

 

       epithelium is key to this process and we are

 

       delivering an immunosuppressant directly to the

 

       airway epithelium.  Chronic rejection is a

 

       progressive problem and so it is decline in FEV1

 

       but it is also recurrent pneumonias and all sorts

 

       of other complications.  Graft failure as you see

 

       in the chronic rejection process is really a setup

 

       for all sorts of mortality and, therefore, the key

 

       point that we want to make, and what is so

 

       important about the analysis where we censored the

 

       deaths with our chronic rejection, is that
 

 

 

 

 

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       treatment with inhaled cyclosporine prevented

 

       chronic rejection, and by preventing chronic

 

       rejection we improve mortality.  I mean, it is

 

       clearly more complicated than that but that is the

 

       simplified story and to me, as a clinician, it

 

       makes good sense.

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  Dr. Barrett?

 

                 DR. BARRETT:  I was really struck by Dr.

 

       Zalkikar's simulations or the analyses looking at

 

       the assignment, in particular one looking at

 

       partitioning out subjects who got little drug.  I

 

       know there was no a priori statistical analysis

 

       planned, but I guess I was curious from the

 

       standpoint of the sponsor, would you declare

 

       evaluable subjects based on the limited number of

 

       doses received with inhaled cyclosporine based on

 

       this data?  And what is your take on that?

 

                 DR. DILLY:  Our take on that is that when

 

       we go from 26 patients treated with active and

 

       long-term follow-on to 10 times that number we will

 

       be able to draw a much more accurate confidence

 

       interval around the trajectory of the patient.  We
 

 

 

 

 

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       think that is really the bottom line of what needs

 

       to be done now because I think Prof. Helms'

 

       statement about is the p value real--who can say?

 

       We want to put a real p value on what happens to

 

       respiratory function; what happens to survival;

 

       what happens to chronic rejection.  At the moment,

 

       we need to include in the prospective study that we

 

       want to do an intent-to-treat analysis because we

 

       want to describe what happens when patients are

 

       prescribed 300 mg three times a week of inhaled

 

       cyclosporine.  So, yes, we would evaluate those

 

       patients.  Does that answer your question?

 

                 DR. BARRETT:  No, I guess I was looking at

 

       if you were going to define criteria on evaluable

 

       subjects based--I mean, in this situation you had

 

       difficulties.  Again, it was a study that was done

 

       already at the University of Pittsburgh, but very

 

       heterogeneous dosing exposures.

 

                 DR. DILLY:  So, one of the things that we

 

       have clearly not done, we have clearly not got a

 

       formal dose-response study sitting in front of us.

 

       Right?  One of the analyses that we want to do is
 

 

 

 

 

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       an achieved dose duration analysis versus benefit.

 

       Absolutely, that is one of the critical parameters

 

       in the study.

 

                 DR. ZALKIKAR:  Can I just put in a couple

 

       of words regarding FEV1?  We looked at the FEV1

 

       data as much as we could.  The pre-enrollment data

 

       was missing on a large number of patients, as I

 

       mentioned.  We tried to impute the pre-enrollment

 

       data by the type of lung transplant that the

 

       patients received and see the difference between

 

       the final FEV1 and the pre-enrollment FEV1, and

 

       none of those analyses has shown any difference

 

       between the two arms.

 

                 We also looked at the three-month data and

 

       treated that as some sort of baseline because it

 

       was available, and saw a difference from that to

 

       the final FEV1 that was indicated in the database

 

       and, again, there was no difference between the two

 

       arms in terms of that.

 

                 DR. PROSCHAN:  Yes, I thought it was very

 

       interesting to see the sensitivity analyses, and it

 

       seems like both parties did something
 

 

 

 

 

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       reasonable--you know, not that you haven't been

 

       doing other reasonable things.  You basically threw

 

       out those early deaths and did a sensitivity

 

       analysis and showed that the results were still

 

       significant.  On the other hand, you switched the

 

       treatment labels and showed that things become not

 

       significant once you do that.

 

                 You know, I want to go back to their

 

       analysis.  You would think that if you threw out

 

       those three placebo patients with the early deaths,

 

       you are throwing out sick patients and, therefore,

 

       the remaining placebo patients should be healthier

 

       than the patients left in the CyIS arm.  So, it

 

       seems like that is somewhat reassuring, that even

 

       when you throw those out it retains the

 

       significance.  I guess it is not really a question

 

       but a comment.

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  At this stage we are close

 

       to the end of the morning session--oh, Dr. Reiss?

 

                 DR. REISS:  I just have one question.  It

 

       might have been discussed and I might have missed

 

       it, but the bronchial biopsies for the diagnosis,
 

 

 

 

 

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       were they done in a routine, standard manner or

 

       were they done for cause?

 

                 DR. NOONBERG:  The short answer is both.

 

       There was a protocol specified minimum and then

 

       also for clinical cause.

 

                 DR. WATKINS:  At this point, I just have a

 

       brief statement before we adjourn for lunch.  I

 

       would like to remind the committee that, in the

 

       spirit of the Federal Advisory Committee Act and

 

       the Sunshine Amendment, discussion about today's

 

       topic should take place in the form of this meeting

 

       only and not occur during lunch or in private

 

       discussions.  We ask that the press honor the

 

       obligations of the committee members as well.

 

                 Additionally, any open public hearing

 

       speakers who have not yet checked in, please do so

 

       at the registration desk.  And, if everyone could

 

       return just prior to one o'clock we will reconvene.

 

                 [Whereupon, at 12:00 p.m., the proceedings

 

       adjourned for lunch, to reconvene at 1:00 p.m. this

 

       same day.]
 

 

 

 

 

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                 A F T E R N O O N  P R O C E E D I N G S

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  Welcome back to the

 

       afternoon session.  This session will have

 

       initially an open public hearing to hear from

 

       interested parties outside the company and the FDA.

 

       Then we will move back to general discussions of

 

       concerns and problems and issues, and then

 

       ultimately we will vote on the particular questions

 

       that are posed to us by the FDA.

 

                 Before starting the open public hearing, I

 

       would like to read this particular message:  Both

 

       the Food and Drug Administration and the public

 

       believe in a transparent process for information

 

       gathering and decision-making.  To ensure such

 

       transparency at the open public hearing session of

 

       the advisory committee meeting, FDA believes that

 

       it is important to understand the context of an

 

       individual's presentation.

 

                 For this reason, the FDA encourages you,

 

       the open public hearing speaker, at the beginning

 

       of your written or oral statement to advise the

 

       committee of any financial relationship that you
 

 

 

 

 

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       may have with the sponsor, its products and, if

 

       known, its direct competitors.  For example, this

 

       financial information may include a sponsor's

 

       payment for your travel, lodging or other expenses

 

       in connection with your attendance at this meeting.

 

       Likewise, FDA encourages you, at the beginning of

 

       your statement, to advise the committee if you do

 

       not have any such financial relationships.  If you

 

       choose not to address this issue of financial

 

       relationships at the beginning of your statement,

 

       it will not preclude you from speaking.

 

                 So, with that said, I would like to

 

       introduce Miss Esther Suss.  She will be our first

 

       presenter.  Miss Suss, are you here?  You can use

 

       that microphone over there.

 

                           Open Public Hearing

 

                 MS. SUSS:  Before I start my statement I

 

       would like to point out to the board members that I

 

       was one of five persons on Team Pittsburgh who

 

       agreed to be filmed and interviewed by Chiron

 

       during the 2004 Transplant Games as part of an

 

       internal campaign by Chiron to...[microphone
 

 

 

 

 

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       off]...

 

                 As a follow-up to that interview that I

 

       gave at the games, Chiron asked me to demonstrate

 

       the use of inhaled cyclosporine as part of a

 

       demonstration DVD to be given to new users of this

 

       therapy.  Thus, in March of 2005 Chiron paid my

 

       travel and other expenses to Orange County,

 

       California for the taping of my portion of the DVD.

 

                 Now, ladies and gentlemen, I appreciate

 

       the opportunity to tell my story in this public

 

       forum because I feel that the FDA approval of

 

       inhaled cyclosporine is extremely important to

 

       persons like me.  For over 30 years I worked for

 

       the International Monetary Fund and traveled

 

       extensively to Latin America, Europe, the Soviet

 

       Union and Africa.  In fact, in 1992 I opened the

 

       IMF's rep. office in Latvia and was essentially the

 

       ambassador there and I lived there for two years.

 

       After working in Latvia, I then was based in

 

       headquarters but traveled to Uzbekistan where I

 

       worked for two and a half years, and then to

 

       Armenia where I worked for two years, and then I
 

 

 

 

 

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       returned to work in Latin America.

 

                 During this time I often had trouble with

 

       some bronchitis, some asthma but I was away from

 

       Washington for over half of the year.  In January,

 

       2000, after a vacation to Florida and a visit to

 

       Pittsburgh to see my family over the holidays I

 

       came down with what I thought was the flu and had

 

       trouble breathing and my inhalers weren't working.

 

       At that point, I finally went to the doctor.  I

 

       went to the hospital and I was admitted to the

 

       hospital where my doctor told me we think it is

 

       just an exacerbation of your asthma by the flu;

 

       your x-rays look fine.  But the next day I had a

 

       classic asthma attack in the hospital and went into

 

       total respiratory failure.  After not improving for

 

       the next two weeks, they brought in a

 

       pulmanologist.  The pulmanologist told me "you're

 

       in end-stage emphysema and you will never go off

 

       oxygen again."  And I was devastated.  I was 52

 

       years old.  I couldn't believe that this could

 

       happen so quickly and I asked him, "how could this

 

       happen?"  And he said, "first of all, your x-rays
 

 

 

 

 

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       were terrible.  Secondly, some people push

 

       themselves so that they use up every margin that

 

       they have and when they fall, they fall completely

 

       off the cliff."  And, that was the situation that I

 

       was in.

 

                 At 52 I faced the possibility of never

 

       being able to travel again, quite honestly.  I

 

       spent about a month in the hospital and was able to

 

       improve significantly more than they had

 

       anticipated.  In the end, by the time I was out in

 

       a month, I was on oxygen only when I was doing any

 

       real physical activity.  But I returned to work

 

       full-time and during the day I didn't really need

 

       to use my oxygen.  But if I needed to walk--today,

 

       for example, to walk from this building across the

 

       street to the cafeteria would have just about

 

       killed me even using my oxygen.

 

                 In June I asked my doctor to check, to do

 

       PFTs again to see if anything had really improved

 

       and the answer was no, it hadn't.  That was as good

 

       as I was going to be.  I was told then the only

 

       other thing to do was to have a transplant.  So, I
 

 

 

 

 

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       asked my doctor to write the necessary letters of

 

       introduction and I was evaluated both at the

 

       University of Pittsburgh and at NOVA Fairfax.  I am

 

       originally from Pittsburgh.  I have my Ph.D. from

 

       the University of Pittsburgh.  My younger brother

 

       is a physician from the University of Pittsburgh

 

       Medical School.  So, I was pretty familiar with the

 

       programs in the hospital there and I felt quite

 

       comfortable with the people there.

 

                 Well, 22 months and five calls later I got

 

       my transplant in August, 2002.  It was just

 

       incredible.  On August 13, 2002 I had a new

 

       beginning.  I had a new lung.  I no longer had blue

 

       lips, and for one week my progress was impressive.

 

       Then I had a major acute rejection, was in the

 

       intensive care unit on a ventilator for several

 

       weeks, and I just kept taking one rejection after

 

       another.  I had an agreement with the doctors and

 

       Dr. Iacona was wonderful--"if you don't give up on

 

       me I'll keep fighting" and that model has worked

 

       very well.  They haven't given up on me.  I kept

 

       fighting and here I am today.
 

 

 

 

 

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                 I returned to Washington in November of

 

       2002 to have Thanksgiving with friends but then had

 

       to be rushed back to Pittsburgh again at the

 

       beginning of December with a major infection which

 

       resulted in another rejection episode, and came

 

       back to work full-time in March, 2003 and I started

 

       traveling again.  I went to South Africa to visit a

 

       very dear friend in October but, unfortunately, in

 

       December, 2003 I came down with a viral infection

 

       which got my immune system roughed up again and

 

       gave me another acute rejection.  At that point the

 

       doctors decided, once they got the acute rejection

 

       under control, to put me on the inhaled

 

       cyclosporine therapy.

 

                 Since then I have spent the whole year of

 

       2004 out of the hospital and, with the exception of

 

       an intestinal flu on New Year's Day of 2005, I have

 

       been out of the hospital and I have not had a

 

       rejection episode for over a year.  I have been

 

       able to resume my life that I had before I got

 

       sick.  In October, 2003, as I said, I went to South

 

       Africa to visit a dear friend and in June, 2004 I
 

 

 

 

 

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       took my nephew to Paris and Madrid for his 13th

 

       birthday.  I participated in the 2004 Transplant

 

       Games where I ran an 800 meter, women's 800 meter

 

       and got a silver medal, and I did a 5K in about one

 

       hour.  Pre-transplant I would never have been able

 

       to do that even with oxygen in two weeks, the 5K.

 

                 The inhaled cyclosporine is the first, and

 

       at this time the only drug which is aimed at

 

       preventing or at least postponing the onset of

 

       chronic rejection.  I am a classic profile for

 

       someone who will get chronic rejection because of

 

       my multiple acute rejections.  For those of us who

 

       have been given a second chance for having a good

 

       life it is so important to have this treatment

 

       available.  I am eternally grateful to my donor for

 

       the gift that I received and I feel that wherever I

 

       go I am taking my donor with me, and I hope that he

 

       enjoys traveling because he is doing a lot of it.

 

                 I am aiming at setting the record of being

 

       the longest survivor as a lung transplant

 

       recipient, not withstanding the survival statistics

 

       that you all know quite well.  As we know,
 

 

 

 

 

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       statistics are for large numbers of people and for

 

       any individual they don't necessarily apply, and I

 

       intend to be on the plus side of those statistics.

 

       And, I believe that by using the inhaled

 

       cyclosporine I am doing everything possible that I

 

       can to preserve and protect this wonderful gift

 

       that has been given to me and that it will help me

 

       accomplish my goals.

 

                 I have had no adverse reactions or

 

       problems using the inhaled cyclosporine, and my

 

       hope is that your approval of this drug for the

 

       general population will allow many other people to

 

       have the same long-term goals for themselves.

 

       Thank you.

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  Thank you Miss Suss.  Our

 

       next speaker is Mr. John Sullivan.

 

                 MR. SULLIVAN:  My name is John Sullivan.

 

       I appreciate the opportunity to address you today.

 

       I have not had any financial rewards from UPMC or

 

       Chiron to come here and speak.

 

                 I would like to tell you a little bit

 

       about myself.  I had alpha-1 anti-trypsin
 

 

 

 

 

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       deficiency when I was 35 years old.  That was in

 

       1981.  In 1991 I had a single right lung

 

       transplant.  I did fairly well for about six months

 

       when I came down with pancreatitis which they for

 

       some reason thought immune suppression caused.  So,

 

       they had to reduce my immune suppression and I am

 

       still alive but after three weeks my lung capacity

 

       had greatly been reduced and I was rejecting.  I

 

       had a couple of bouts of acute rejection then I had

 

       chronic rejection.

 

                 In 1994 I came down with aspergillus and I

 

       ended up there at the UPMC for three months on a

 

       ventilator.  Then I went home for three years on a

 

       ventilator and I was put back on the list again.  I

 

       was lucky enough in February, 1997 to receive a

 

       double lung transplant.  I had to have a double

 

       because of the aspergillus.  I was in a coma for

 

       two weeks after that and I also lost my kidney

 

       during that operation.  As soon as I came out of

 

       the coma, Dr. Iacona and also Dr. Griffith put me

 

       on inhaled cyclosporine because I already had shown

 

       that I was a chronic rejector.  I have been on
 

 

 

 

 

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       inhaled cyclosporine to the current time.  I have

 

       been reduced to once a week.

 

                 The only time I have had any chronic

 

       rejection or any type of rejection was in June of

 

       1997.  I had fallen and broke my left hip.  So

 

       then, when they put the pins in I came home and I

 

       was doing fine for about 10 days.  All of a sudden

 

       I had a grand mal seizure and I drove my femur

 

       straight through my pelvis on my right side but and

 

       on the other side bent the ball right over.  But

 

       because of the grand mal seizure they put me on

 

       dilantin which reduces or dilutes your immune

 

       suppression.  So I went into acute rejection.  I

 

       was actually in Michigan and then Pittsburgh had me

 

       switched over to Norantin.  That is the only

 

       rejection I have had since 1997.

 

                 In January of this year I had the flu and

 

       my immune system kicked in.  My temperature went up

 

       to 102, which isn't very good.  And, I was on it

 

       once a week.  They jumped it up to twice a week,

 

       hoping to stop any kind of rejection.  I have had

 

       my PFTs done as well as biopsies and I show no
 

 

 

 

 

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       signs of rejection at all.

 

                 I feel that the main reason I have done so

 

       well is because of the inhaled cyclosporine.  I

 

       think that has helped me.  I don't show any

 

       rejection and there hasn't been any adverse effect

 

       on me at all.  Thank you very much.

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  Thank you, Mr. Sullivan.

 

       Our next presenter is Mr. Bill Stein.

 

                 MR. STEIN:  I want to address the

 

       committee today and tell them that I appreciate you

 

       allowing me to take the time to tell a little bit

 

       about my past disease history and what the

 

       transplant has done for me to date.

 

                 I am a 32 years old and I had a double

 

       lung transplant in August of 2002, after suffering

 

       devastating effects of cystic fibrosis.  I was

 

       diagnosed at the age of eight and I lived a fairly

 

       healthy childhood in adolescent years until I was

 

       approximately 20 years old.  That was my first

 

       hospitalization with the complications arising from

 

       cystic fibrosis.  I thought after the initial

 

       hospitalization that things would get better and I
 

 

 

 

 

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       would just go on my merry way with my life, but it

 

       didn't turn out that way.  That first year I was

 

       hospitalized over five times and progressing over

 

       the next eight years my lung function went from

 

       approximately 95 percent to 18 percent at the time

 

       of the transplant.

 

                 In January of 1999 I was listed for

 

       transplant at the University of Pittsburgh Medical

 

       Center and in the years leading up to my surgery I

 

       faced the reality that my own lungs may not sustain

 

       my body until new lungs became available.  In 2002

 

       my health declined to a point so bad that I was on

 

       oxygen 24 hours a day until August of 2002 when I

 

       received my double lung transplant.  I was called

 

       four times for transplant.  I had three false

 

       alarms until I got the actual call in August of

 

       2002.  It was a very emotional ride, as well as a

 

       very physical one, you know, dealing with the trips

 

       to the hospital and all the prep procedures where

 

       you would have your surgeon come in and tell you

 

       that, you know, the operation wasn't a go.

 

                 It has been almost three years now since
 

 

 

 

 

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       my transplant and in that time I have managed to

 

       reclaim my life and venture forward with my goals.

 

       Less than three months after my transplant I

 

       returned to the ice hockey rink.  I was an avid ice

 

       hockey player and I also played golf and, sort of

 

       against a lot of people's wishes, I wanted to go

 

       back and enjoy the sport I loved.  I took the

 

       necessary precautions; I wanted to know that I

 

       could do it again.

 

                 Less than six months after my transplant I

 

       decided, well, it is time for a career change so I

 

       decided to go back to school and take preparatory

 

       classes to pursue my ultimate goal of being a

 

       physician assistant.  The long hours have paid off

 

       and after all the long and hard work that I have

 

       spent for the past two and a half years, I will be

 

       accepted to the class of 2007 physician assistant

 

       studies program this August.

 

                 Words cannot express the gratitude and

 

       appreciation I have for the support that was given

 

       throughout my journey by my friends, my family and

 

       my medical team and, most importantly, the gift of
 

 

 

 

 

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       life given to me by my donor and the decision by

 

       her family.

 

                 I realize that my disease did not allow me

 

       the convenience of making an easy decision

 

       regarding my transplant but in the years that

 

       followed my transplant I have been able to overcome

 

       the hurdles associated with the complexities of the

 

       surgery, and even the care that followed.  I knew

 

       going into transplant that infection and rejection

 

       would be issues that I would have to address in

 

       future care.  The statistic that was provided to me

 

       prior to transplant was not very impressive, given

 

       that the five-year survival rate was approximately

 

       50 percent, but what was the alternative?  I chose

 

       the transplant and took my chances at that point.

 

                 I have been very fortunate and have only

 

       had to deal with a few cases of acute rejection

 

       that were resolved with conventional steroids and

 

       adjustments to my immune suppression medication.  I

 

       was able to battle through these minor hurdles; I

 

       always worry about what happens in the future, what

 

       happens the next time I get rejection.  Is it going
 

 

 

 

 

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       to be treatable?  Or, what happens if it just turns

 

       into chronic rejection?  Do I have something to

 

       look forward to, to help me treat it?  Just given

 

       what I have heard with the inhaled cyclosporine, it

 

       just seems like it is a tremendous asset to the

 

       transplant community to have it available for

 

       patients like myself that might run into problems

 

       and conventional therapy might not carry you.  I

 

       have seen a lot of my friends be in a situation

 

       where they are in intensive care for months on end.

 

       A few of them have passed away.  It is very

 

       heart-breaking knowing that I am well and that they

 

       are gone because there wasn't a drug available to

 

       combat the effects of rejection.

 

                 A new drug such as inhaled cyclosporine

 

       will help benefit transplant patients such as

 

       myself and prevent or reduce the probability of

 

       rejection occurring in transplanted lungs.  The

 

       drug can also help eliminate some of the

 

       traditional side effects that patients like myself

 

       deal with.  My creatinine level is currently 1.5,

 

       1.6 so I am teetering on the sea-saw as to which
 

 

 

 

 

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       way I am going to go.  So, will inhaled

 

       cyclosporine give me that opportunity to lower my

 

       current immune suppression in the future and maybe

 

       have dual medications to help alleviate some of the

 

       toxicities on the other organs?  Those are

 

       questions on our minds and, you know, I am sure

 

       there are a lot of transplant patients who feel the

 

       same way, and I believe the long-term benefits of

 

       the inhaled cyclosporine will provide new hope and

 

       opportunities for many patients allowing them to

 

       live long and prosperous lives without worry of

 

       additional complications.  Thank you very much.

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  Thank you, Mr. Stein.  Our

 

       last speaker is Miss Renee Moeller.

 

                 MS. MOELLER:  I am a double lung

 

       transplant survivor of three years.  Although I am

 

       doing very well, I am concerned about the long-term

 

       risks associated with my current rejection drugs.

 

       I feel that taking cyclosporine as a preventative

 

       medicine will benefit my long-term survival rate

 

       and I will tell you why that is important to me.

 

                 I am a 29 year-old young woman who for all
 

 

 

 

 

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       of my life coped with cystic fibrosis and took care

 

       of myself for years.  I lived a pretty normal life

 

       except for the daily routine of taking 50 pills a

 

       day.  After I finished college my health declined

 

       dramatically.  I thought my life was over.  I was

 

       completely devastated knowing that I was so young

 

       and I had to deal with death.  A transplant was my

 

       only hope.  My whole life I dealt with an incurable

 

       illness.  Finally I could breathe like a normal

 

       human being after this wonderful gift of a

 

       transplant.  I don't want to risk losing this new

 

       life that I absolutely love and have longed for.

 

                 I am afraid of getting rejection.  One of

 

       my best friends died because she rejected to the

 

       point of no return.  It affected me a great deal

 

       and I don't want this to happen to myself.  This is

 

       a huge concern of mine and I would love to have the

 

       opportunity to take cyclosporine.  By taking this

 

       drug my other organs can be saved and, hopefully, I

 

       can live a longer and prosperous life.  Thank you.

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  Thank you.  At this point I

 

       will turn the meeting over to Dr. Albrecht to give
 

 

 

 

 

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       us a charge for the rest of the afternoon's

 

       considerations.

 

                         Charge to the Committee

 

                 DR. ALBRECHT:  Thank you.  Before I read

 

       the questions let me just spend a couple of minutes

 

       summarizing some of the salient points and some of

 

       the questions that we still have remaining that we

 

       would like the committee to talk about.

 

                 Let me just reiterate, as we have heard,

 

       that a single Phase II study was performed and

 

       Chiron submitted this, and we accepted it, knowing

 

       the size of the study, given the dramatic

 

       difference in mortality that was seen.  As you have

 

       heard before, the reason for this is that the

 

       incidence of lung transplants is fairly low.  The

 

       current mortality is higher than with other

 

       transplants.  There is no approved FDA therapy and,

 

       clearly, there is a need for safe and effective

 

       therapy in this population, as we have heard so

 

       eloquently stated.

 

                 In the Chiron presentations you heard

 

       quite a bit of information presented about this
 

 

 

 

 

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       study and you heard Chiron's assessment that they

 

       felt that these results were really quite robust

 

       and supported the survival difference and warranted

 

       a positive regulatory action.

 

                 During the FDA presentation you heard a

 

       somewhat different perspective or interpretation of

 

       the very same data in the following way:  We

 

       acknowledge that there was a difference seen in OB

 

       and mortality.  But OB is a histologic finding and

 

       a histologic finding without some clinical signs

 

       and symptoms causing mortality doesn't quite

 

       follow.  So, when we looked at some clinical signs

 

       and symptoms, for example characterized by FEV1 or

 

       BOS, and did not see that difference we were

 

       puzzled and continued to do additional analyses.

 

       Again, just to remind everyone, the primary

 

       endpoint of acute rejection also was not

 

       demonstrated to be significantly affected by the

 

       aerosolized cyclosporine.

 

                 So, we looked for other explanations that

 

       could possibly say why was there a difference in

 

       mortality without seeing differences in FEV1 or BOS
 

 

 

 

 

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       and found a number of characteristics that were

 

       imbalanced in the two populations which, as we

 

       heard, of course, had been randomized but sometimes

 

       the risk of a small study is that randomization may

 

       still not lead to an adequate balance in

 

       characteristics.

 

                 One of the main ones was double lung

 

       versus single lung imbalance.  Then you heard a

 

       difference in the incidence of early pneumonias

 

       that happened in the single lung in patients to a

 

       greater proportion than the double lung patients.

 

       Dr. Hernandez then admitted that we do not have a

 

       lot of information on the donors but used the

 

       available information that we had to try to get a

 

       sense of the donors, as well as the early courses

 

       in the recipients, and pointed out that the

 

       inotropic to support to donors was longer; the

 

       PaO2/FiO2 was less than 300 in the PG arm whereas

 

       it was greater than 300 in the double lung arm.

 

       Then the recipients also had a longer stay in the

 

       ICU which correlates with their clinical course

 

       post-transplant.
 

 

 

 

 

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                 So, seeing these imbalances, we thought

 

       could this be part of the explanation because the

 

       mechanism of action of cyclosporine and the

 

       incidence of pneumonia did not seem to be directly

 

       correlated.  Then we see from the literature that

 

       there is a strong association between acute

 

       rejection and chronic rejection.  The assumption is

 

       that acute rejection episodes through various

 

       cycles do lead to BOS and chronic rejection and

 

       mortality.

 

                 We also heard that non-immune causes may

 

       be responsible for this and again, as I mentioned,

 

       we did see that there were differences in some of

 

       the donor and recipient characteristics, as well as

 

       differences in pneumonia, so perhaps this was in

 

       part accounting for the differences we were seeing.

 

                 In my reading I actually came across a

 

       statement by the pathology group from Pittsburgh

 

       that occasionally organizing pneumonia-like

 

       reactions in airways and air spaces may induce

 

       bronchiolitis obliterans.  So, perhaps these are

 

       some of the known immunologic features that may
 

 

 

 

 

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       predispose to bronchiolitis obliterans.

 

                 Then you heard about the risks of a small

 

       study, such as the fact that when you have a small

 

       study the small sample size results are highly

 

       sensitive to small perturbations in assignment of

 

       patients, and you heard some of the results of the

 

       sensitivity analyses and their impact on changing

 

       the significance of the detected mortality and,

 

       finally, you also saw that if we looked at patients

 

       who received less than 25 doses, which was less

 

       than 10 percent of the intended two-year dosing

 

       regimen, the difference in survival was also no

 

       longer significant.

 

                 So, having said all that, let me now go

 

       ahead and turn to the questions that we would like

 

       the committee to deliberate.  Having read them

 

       earlier, I will not read all of them.  I will start

 

       with question one.  I just did want to mention that

 

       this is also attached to the agenda for ease of

 

       reading and it is now being displayed on the

 

       screens.

 

                 So, the first question, is there
 

 

 

 

 

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       sufficient information to make the determination

 

       whether the observed survival difference in study

 

       ACS001 is due to study drug or to some other

 

       factors?

 

                 In your deliberation we would like you to

 

       keep in mind the information that you heard this

 

       morning, including the statistical issues that were

 

       raised; the differences in baseline donor and

 

       recipient characteristics; the effect that was

 

       demonstrated or the differences or the lack of

 

       differences that were demonstrated on various

 

       endpoints, including the survival endpoint, acute

 

       rejection, BOS, FEV1 and OB; and whether you think

 

       some other endpoint showed a demonstrated benefit

 

       or difference.

 

                 Let me just mention parts (a) and (b) of

 

       question 1 which is that if after you deliberate

 

       you believe that the answer to the first question

 

       is yes, what we would be interested in is hearing

 

       about the generalizability or, more specifically

 

       the labeling recommendations or the labeling

 

       summaries that would then evolve from the results
 

 

 

 

 

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       of this study.

 

                 If, on the other hand, you believe that

 

       the answer to the first question is no, we would be

 

       very interested in hearing a discussion of what

 

       additional clinical studies you would recommend be

 

       conducted.  Here we would be interested in specific

 

       recommendations regarding the patient population,

 

       drug dosing and regimens, drug administration and

 

       efficacy endpoints.  I will stop there and then we

 

       can return to the second question.

 

                      Committee Discussion and Vote

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  For ease in going through

 

       these discussions, I would ask that you just tap

 

       your "talk" button and we will see the red light go

 

       on and then we will call people in turn.

 

                 I would like to first step back and allow

 

       for some potential questions that were possibly not

 

       brought up in the morning session and maybe to

 

       spend some 15 minutes or 20 minutes on that because

 

       I think that will be part and parcel of your

 

       answers to these questions.  I know that Dr. Mannon

 

       had some unanswered questions and we will start
 

 

 

 

 

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       with her.  But anybody else that has new ideas or

 

       something unanswered from this morning, please let

 

       us know.

 

                 DR. MANNON:  This is a question sort of

 

       involved in Dr. Proschan's question earlier this

 

       morning on page 84 of the Chiron binder.  I was

 

       struck by the number of patients that completed

 

       therapy.  Maybe I am misinterpreting it but only

 

       about half of the patients, maybe less than half in

 

       the placebo group but about half of the patients in

 

       the CyIS group were able to complete therapy.  So,

 

       I question both the sponsor and the FDA about what

 

       were the reasons for the lack of completion of

 

       therapy.  Also, from a clinical perspective, how do

 

       you interpret the outcome when half the patients in

 

       your treatment group did not complete full therapy?

 

                 DR. NOONBERG:  To address the first part

 

       of your question, the reasons for early drug

 

       discontinuation are shown in the table below.  The

 

       primary reasons for the placebo group are due to a

 

       variety of adverse events.  We have already

 

       discussed the withdrawal of consent.  Again, there
 

 

 

 

 

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       were some problems with early tolerability that

 

       could be fed into the adverse event group of the

 

       inhaled cyclosporine group.  The unsatisfactory

 

       therapeutic response, those are patients that were

 

       taken off study drug in order to cross over into

 

       the open-label protocol.  Protocol deviations and

 

       violations were largely due to medical

 

       non-compliance and smoking.  So, those are the

 

       range of reasons.  There were no patients that

 

       discontinued because they died.  They discontinued

 

       for other reasons prior to death.

 

                 DR. MANNON:  I guess my second question is

 

       when only half of your patients complete the

 

       proposed therapy, what is your interpretation of

 

       the outcome of those patients when only half

 

       completed really the full therapeutic part of the

 

       trial?

 

                 DR. NOONBERG:  Well, my sense is that

 

       inhaled cyclosporine helps patients early on and

 

       continuously because chronic rejection--it is not

 

       like acute rejection where one day you have it and

 

       the day before you didn't and two weeks later you
 

 

 

 

 

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       don't.  It is a gradual process that probably

 

       starts very early on and only after a year it is

 

       able to be detected by transbronchial biopsy and

 

       certainly by a decline in 20 percent of FEV1.

 

       Again, there is nothing magical about the 20

 

       percent decline and, therefore, it is not an

 

       episodic process and, therefore, patients who

 

       appear to get more drug did better.  How we justify

 

       this really is using an intent-to-treat analysis.

 

                 DR. ZALKIKAR:  Can I respond to that

 

       question?  We agree with the reasons for

 

       discontinuation that were displayed here a while

 

       ago.  As for the sensitivity, I have shown you some

 

       sensitivity analyses where we treated the patients

 

       who received very little therapy in three different

 

       manners, one, excluding all 11 patients who

 

       received less than 25 doses; secondly, treating the

 

       cyclosporine patients who received very little

 

       treatment as the control patients; and, thirdly,

 

       defining treatment failure as discontinuation or

 

       very early discontinuation due to adverse event or

 

       withdrawal of consent.  All of those sensitivity
 

 

 

 

 

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       analyses show that the survival benefit is no

 

       longer significant.  So, the interpretation is

 

       really hard.

 

                 DR. NOONBERG:  Well, I would comment that

 

       one of the reasons that patients didn't get 25

 

       doses is that a couple of them died and, therefore,

 

       couldn't have gotten 25 doses.  When we did a

 

       sensitivity analysis and only looked at patients

 

       who had 80 percent of protocol maximum dosing

 

       adjusted for death we found the results were

 

       statistically significant.  I don't know if you

 

       want to bring that slide up again just to show the

 

       results of our sensitivity analysis.

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  I think you have made the

 

       point well and I think we remember it.

 

                 DR. ZALKIKAR:  Can I counter that?  Again,

 

       the few early deaths--is it really possible to

 

       attribute those deaths to lack of cyclosporine?

 

       That is also a question we had a hard time dealing

 

       with.

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  Dr. Burdick?

 

                 DR. BURDICK:  Just for the record, I would
 

 

 

 

 

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       like to know just a little bit more about how the

 

       randomization actually occurred to the extent that

 

       that is reconstructible.  About half of the

 

       patients done during that interval actually were in

 

       the study.  Were all approached?  If not, what were

 

       the criteria?  Who made the decisions, and when?

 

       And was it blocked by two, by four or six?  So,

 

       what was that process like?

 

                 DR. IACONA:  I am the principal

 

       investigator of the study.  About 120 transplants

 

       were done at the University of Pittsburgh at the

 

       time of the three-year limited enrollment period.

 

       Out of those patients, about half enrolled.

 

       Unfortunately, we had about 20 percent death rate

 

       during that interval which excluded a large number

 

       of patients, which we could do nothing about.  We

 

       did screen through other patients and, to be quite

 

       frank, there were a lot of things going on.  We

 

       didn't want to push the drug because we had it for

 

       other studies and it was an open-label protocol.

 

       That was one issue.  The other issue was that the

 

       patients didn't like the idea of receiving a
 

 

 

 

 

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       placebo.  So, when you pushed them, their gut

 

       reaction was why should I go into the study when I

 

       can get the drug if I should reject?  So, that is

 

       how it was done.  That is how I approached patients

 

       and my colleagues did.

 

                 As far as randomization is concerned, I

 

       had no part in randomization.  It was done by the

 

       University of Pittsburgh statisticians and I had no

 

       idea as to how blocks were assigned.  I never

 

       received the coding for randomization and there was

 

       no way any investigator in the program had any idea

 

       as to who was receiving drug or placebo.

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  Dr. Hunsicker?  I am still a

 

       little bit foggy about exactly how the analysis

 

       plan was constructed.  We have a study for which

 

       the primary outcome was something that is not now

 

       really the issue of evaluation.  So, the

 

       presumption is that you noticed a very substantial

 

       difference in the death rate and that is what now

 

       powered the rest of the analysis that was going on.

 

       So, my question is, and I don't know how I can put

 

       this quite precisely, but to what extent was the
 

 

 

 

 

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       analysis plan developed before the data were looked

 

       at so that you knew what you were looking to test?

 

       Because, clearly, if the analysis plan knew the

 

       outcomes it is no longer really an unbiased

 

       analysis.  So, I have to ask at what stage in the

 

       development of this thing was the analysis plan

 

       finally formalized by which the analysis specified

 

       that we were going to look at these things?  Was it

 

       after you knew the frequency of BOS and so forth,

 

       or was it simply when you recognized that there was

 

       a difference in the rate of death?

 

                 DR. CAPRA:  As we have heard earlier in

 

       discussion, the enrollment was for three years in

 

       the randomization portion of the trial, up to

 

       August of 2001.  The last subject was followed for

 

       an additional two years for treatment.  At that

 

       point the study was unblinded and at that point the

 

       analysis took place, and there was no prospective

 

       analysis plan because it was an

 

       investigator-sponsored trial done at Pittsburgh.

 

                 What they had in their protocol was they

 

       had a primary endpoint of acute rejection.  The
 

 

 

 

 

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       prospective endpoints were chronic rejection and

 

       overall survival duration.  There was no

 

       prospective analysis as to what kind of covariates

 

       to include in the survival duration endpoint.  So,

 

       the trial was over; the results were this;

 

       treatment assignments were unblinded so we looked

 

       at survival duration from the time of transplant to

 

       when the study was closed in August of 2003 and the

 

       results were unblinded.  And, that is why we looked

 

       at a number of analyses.  The first thing is

 

       straightforward log-rank test.  It was significant.

 

       Then we went from there and started looking at

 

       other sensitivity analyses which basically

 

       confirmed the overall result.

 

                 DR. HUNSICKER:  The specific issue that I

 

       am getting at is what you chose to use as your

 

       endpoint beyond simply survival.  I am going to

 

       assume that that is well defined, and everybody

 

       knows whether you are alive or dead.  But when you

 

       create an analysis like this you can have any

 

       number of things that you put into a composite.

 

       You know, you are looking at a whole series of
 

 

 

 

 

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       composites and if you know what the outcomes are

 

       before you build your composites, then you are not

 

       blinded as you create your test and it means that

 

       you can't really test it that way.  So, I am trying

 

       to get a sense of how you developed what you were

 

       going to do--you understand what I am talking

 

       about.

 

                 DR. CAPRA:  Sure.  The secondary endpoint

 

       was chronic rejection.  So, in discussion with the

 

       doctors both at Chiron and then with Dr. Iacona at

 

       Pittsburgh I understood that chronic rejection is

 

       measured both histologically through OB that is on

 

       the biopsies, as well as the BOS which is the

 

       sustained 20 percent decrease.  From there, we

 

       looked at time to first occurrence of chronic

 

       rejection, again, first doing it in an unadjusted

 

       analysis, looking by log-rank test, and then

 

       forward from there.

 

                 DR. HUNSICKER:  But were there analyses

 

       done so that the people at Pittsburgh--and if I had

 

       been there I am sure that I would have done these

 

       things so that as you did this you would have known
 

 

 

 

 

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       what the rate was of OB and BOS before you began

 

       putting together your composites.  Is that the

 

       case?

 

                 DR. CAPRA:  I guess I will have to yield

 

       to people from Pittsburgh.  I haven't seen that so

 

       I will let them discuss it.

 

                 DR. IACONA:  So, the question, as I

 

       understand it, is what was prespecified in our NIH

 

       grant.  We had an NIH grant that supported the

 

       study at the time.  The primary outcome, as written

 

       by Howard Rockette [?] at the University of

 

       Pittsburgh who is the head of our biostatistics

 

       section, states that we would use acute rejection

 

       as our primary endpoint evaluating acute rejection

 

       by Poisson analysis.

 

                 We also evaluated survival and freedom

 

       from rejection as secondary endpoints, as stated in

 

       that grant.  The freedom from rejection was

 

       specified for both acute and chronic rejection as

 

       determined by Kaplan-Meier and evaluating by

 

       log-rank analysis.

 

                 DR. HUNSICKER:  So, it was freedom from
 

 

 

 

 

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       both acute and chronic?

 

                 DR. IACONA:  Freedom from acute rejection

 

       was primary--

 

                 DR. HUNSICKER:  No, no, no, I understand,

 

       but your secondary endpoint was--

 

                 DR. IACONA:  Freedom from chronic

 

       rejection.  It is stated in the grant, yes.

 

                 DR. HUNSICKER:  And was the definition of

 

       chronic rejection in there?  The major issue here

 

       is that you are depending a fair amount on BOS.

 

                 DR. IACONA:  Yes.

 

                 DR. HUNSICKER:  You know that because of

 

       the way you did things--you can't use--what do you

 

       call it?--the heart, lung transplant definition

 

       because you didn't have the baselines.  Did you

 

       have your definitions in place before you started

 

       building an analysis?

 

                 DR. IACONA:  Yes, the definitions were in

 

       place as specified in that NIH grant, and we can

 

       certainly provide you the statistical section of

 

       that grant.  We evaluated chronic rejection by two

 

       means, by BOS and by histology.
 

 

 

 

 

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                 DR. HUNSICKER:  But those endpoints were

 

       defined before you did the analysis?

 

                 DR. IACONA:  Yes, in the NIH grant.

 

                 DR. CAPRA:  I think there is also a

 

       misunderstanding about the baseline BOS.  Baseline

 

       is a running average as a function of time so

 

       because subjects were enrolled as early as seven

 

       days after transplant, sometimes a subject didn't

 

       have an FEV1 value available in that first week;

 

       they had one maybe on day eight or day nine.  We

 

       were able to calculate a baseline BOS, which is a

 

       running average, and then look at change from that

 

       value for calculation of BOS.

 

                 DR. IACONA:  Could I make a statement

 

       about the initial PFT?  Before these patients go on

 

       aerosolized cyclosporine or placebo they are

 

       postoperative patients, some of whom have

 

       tracheostomies; they have chest pain; they are not

 

       candidates to actually journey to a bronchoscopy

 

       laboratory to get a PFT and if they did get a PFT

 

       they would be highly inaccurate.  So, that initial

 

       PFT, in most cases where it was not present, would
 

 

 

 

 

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       be impossible to get under the clinical

 

       circumstances of a postoperative transplant

 

       patient.

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  Dr. Moss?

 

                 DR. MOSS:  I think this is all really

 

       interesting.  I think Chiron has done a great job

 

       in presenting the data and actually the question is

 

       not for you but you can stay up there if you want.

 

       The data that Pittsburgh and Chiron have presented

 

       is extremely interesting and very thought

 

       provoking.  There was a comment made that if the

 

       decision was made by this committee/FDA that

 

       further studies needed to be performed, maybe a

 

       larger multicenter trial to really determine the

 

       potential answers, that Chiron would not be able to

 

       do that or was not committed to do that.  I just

 

       wanted to understand your reasoning behind that

 

       because if you are this committed to this and you

 

       really, really believe that this really works, then

 

       why would you throw in the towel now?  I hope the

 

       answer is more than, you know, it costs a lot of

 

       money.  Let me prop this up by saying that there
 

 

 

 

 

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       are other ways of funding studies or co-sponsoring

 

       studies like that with the NIH, etc. potentially.

 

                 DR. DILLY:  The answer is not it costs a

 

       lot of money.  The answer is we don't think it is

 

       an appropriate thing to do.  Just think through the

 

       practicalities of running another

 

       placebo-controlled trial even in a multicenter

 

       site.  That involves IRB approval.  That involves

 

       informed consent.  Frankly, it would be

 

       inconceivable--you have heard from the patients

 

       already--that patients would be willing to go on

 

       placebo in a randomized, controlled study with this

 

       kind of clinical signal.  We believe that that

 

       question is behind us.

 

                 What is important is to really address

 

       some of the questions about the relationship of the

 

       endpoint.  Now, there is no such thing as absolute

 

       certainty in science.  Therefore, we think that the

 

       right thing to do is to run a large group of

 

       patients, prospectively defined, follow them for a

 

       long period of time so we can really characterize

 

       the natural history of patients treated with
 

 

 

 

 

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       inhaled cyclosporine so that we can address those

 

       questions once and for all.  So, it is just not the

 

       right thing to do, to do another controlled trial

 

       before approval.

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  Dr. Sampson?

 

                 DR. SAMPSON:  It is actually a small

 

       point.  I just want to follow-up on Larry's

 

       question about endpoints because in the Chiron

 

       report it says chronic rejection as manifested by

 

       OB and BOS, and the variable that you used was OB

 

       or BOS in your primary analysis.  Is that right, or

 

       am I just getting caught up in "and/or's" in this?

 

       Again, it is the same issue, you know, about

 

       looking for the right variable to produce the

 

       answer.

 

                 DR. CAPRA:  The answer is it is and/or.

 

       So, it is OB or BOS or both.  I don't know if one

 

       of the doctors wants to comment on the clinical

 

       relevance of the use of the composite.

 

                 DR. NOONBERG:  Again, I just want to

 

       reiterate that chronic rejection can only be

 

       diagnosed in two ways at present, histologically
 

 

 

 

 

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       and clinically.  There will be patients that have

 

       histologic OB, and they will have it on autopsy,

 

       that don't subsequently go on to BOS in the time

 

       period of the study.  However, like I said, there

 

       is nothing magical about 20 percent.  They may have

 

       18 percent decline, 19 percent, or 25 percent

 

       decline but they have an episode of pneumonia.  So,

 

       there are also patients that have BOS but, due to

 

       the insensitive nature, it is not picked up.  So,

 

       really chronic rejection encompasses both groups of

 

       patients but they are not really distinct groups.

 

       They have the same clinical process.  It is just a

 

       matter of how it is detected.  And, the whole BOS

 

       criteria became necessary because of the

 

       insensitivity of transbronchial biopsy, not because

 

       of the poor specificity or the thought that these

 

       patients who had it on biopsy didn't really

 

       actually have bronchiolitis obliterans.  It is just

 

       that there was a sense that there were other

 

       patients who also had chronic rejection that

 

       weren't coming up as OB.

 

                 Again, I want to clarify this question
 

 

 

 

 

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       about Chiron's definition of BOS because it is

 

       really not Chiron's.  We used the programmatic

 

       definition developed in 2001 by a consensus

 

       committee, and it uses a post-transplant maximum.

 

       As you may remember from the FDA's slides, the

 

       initial FEV1 is rarely, if ever, your

 

       post-transplant maximum.  It usually really doesn't

 

       come for several months and, therefore, it doesn't

 

       affect the diagnosis of BOS.  So, we didn't come up

 

       with any special criteria for BOS.  We used the

 

       same programmatic definition that is used in the

 

       transplant community.

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  Dr. Proschan?

 

                 DR. PROSCHAN:  I want to get back to the

 

       monitoring issue because that is still bothering me

 

       a little bit.  It is hard for me to imagine that in

 

       this study that was done at the University of

 

       Pittsburgh there was no group looking at the

 

       results on an ongoing basis.  I mean, is that what

 

       you are saying, that there was no data and safety

 

       monitoring board or no group or individual that was

 

       looking to see whether, for example, the mortality
 

 

 

 

 

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       was in the active treatment arm?

 

                 DR. DILLY:  There are two points, one

 

       which I would like Dr. Iacona to comment on, the

 

       one about monitoring of endpoints.  One of the

 

       questions that we have been discussing is just how

 

       much did the people that entered the endpoints in

 

       the CRs know about the treatment assignment.  I

 

       think there was some confusion in the way this was

 

       communicated this morning.  The endpoints that

 

       appeared in the case record forms, that appeared in

 

       the data that constituted the analyses you have

 

       seen, were taken from source patient records,

 

       source documents.  The people managing the patients

 

       were blind to treatment assignment, as you have

 

       heard from Dr. Iacona.  The people transcribing the

 

       data from the source document into the database

 

       could theoretically have known what the treatment

 

       assignment was.  There is no evidence that is the

 

       case.  However, both we and the FDA went in an

 

       audited the data in the database against the

 

       original source documentation and it is a matter of

 

       common understanding that the data in the database
 

 

 

 

 

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       reflect the source documentation.  So, we believe

 

       that the data that you see have very, very little

 

       liability to be biased.

 

                 DR. PROSCHAN:  No, I am not worried about

 

       that.  What I am worried about is that the study

 

       was stopped on a possibly random high.  That is,

 

       someone is looking at the data, seeing the results

 

       and then saying, "gee, if we stop now, look, it's

 

       going to be a p value of 0.007."

 

                 DR. DILLY:  Remember, the study was

 

       stopped on the date that was prospectively defined

 

       for the study stop.  There was a completion

 

       enrollment date in August, 2001 and completion of

 

       the study in August, 2003.

 

                 DR. IACONA:  Correct.  So, Dr. Proschan,

 

       the enrollment period went on for a duration of

 

       three years.  There was a safety and monitoring

 

       committee during those three-year intervals that

 

       met at yearly intervals, to the best of my

 

       recollection, and they looked at safety and the

 

       primary endpoint, and they reported that safety

 

       events were no different between the groups looking
 

 

 

 

 

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       at renal function and infectious processes between

 

       the groups, which is of concern, and they looked at

 

       acute rejection.  At the end of the three-year

 

       block the safety and monitoring committee ceased to

 

       meet.  The patients who were enrolled at that

 

       three-year interval went on to receive their

 

       two-year course of therapy, and all the patients in

 

       the study were continued to be monitored.  At some

 

       point, right before the end of the study in June,

 

       Dr. Corcoran had done lung function analysis and he

 

       was unblinded.  At that point Dr. Corcoran also

 

       looked at survival and it became apparent that

 

       there was a difference in survival.  Up to that

 

       point we had no idea that survival was different.

 

       I knew that survival was significantly better in

 

       the aerosol group and I wasn't unblinded yet.  I

 

       was told of this information.  I contacted the

 

       members of the FDA, Dr. Albrecht and Dr.

 

       Cavaille-Coll, and we had a conversation.  I also

 

       contacted our IRB.  And, the decision was made to

 

       proceed to finalization of the trial in August of

 

       2003 until the last person received two years of
 

 

 

 

 

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       therapy as prespecified in our NIH grant.

 

                 I would like to make one more comment in

 

       reference to the differences in AA gradient between

 

       the donors, between the immediate post-transplant

 

       patients.  Since more of the cyclosporine patients

 

       had double lungs you would expect that their

 

       PaO2/FiO2 ratios to be higher.  It may not reflect

 

       anything of the donor per se, just the fact that

 

       they had double the lung surface volume.

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  Dr. Hernandez?

 

                 DR. HERNANDEZ:  I am going to make several

 

       comments.  The first is regarding the study

 

       termination.  I have the impression that the study

 

       was terminated early and what I see is that an

 

       amendment was implemented to terminate the study

 

       earlier, before reaching the 126 patients that were

 

       initially planned.  Because of reasons that were

 

       not in the hands of the investigators, the study

 

       needed to be terminated earlier, before 126

 

       patients.

 

                 DR. IACONA:  Yes, Dr. Hernandez, I

 

       appreciate the point.  Logistically, we were not
 

 

 

 

 

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       able to proceed with the enrollment.  We had

 

       requested additional funds from the NIH and the

 

       funding supply was exhausted at that point.  We

 

       recognize that we were not able to enroll the

 

       number of patients as prespecified and extend the

 

       study.  I made a specific request to the NIH to

 

       extend the funds and they were not allocated.  So,

 

       we were forced to make do with what we had.

 

                 DR. HERNANDEZ:  This is a very difficult

 

       thing to me, but I think because I am a clinician I

 

       would like to insist on this, when I changed to the

 

       area of transplantation I became a transplant

 

       surgeon and very committed to my patients, and I

 

       believe that most transplant patients are very

 

       educated about what the transplant is.  I think

 

       they are getting explained perfectly what is going

 

       on and they understand clearly.  The thing is that

 

       I don't want to raise false expectations in my

 

       transplant patients.  First, I don't want them to

 

       get the impression that this treatment is a

 

       calcineurin-sparing drug because there is no data

 

       to imply that.  This drug has not demonstrated an
 

 

 

 

 

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       effect on recurring acute rejection.  So, I think

 

       that we need to clarify that with patients where

 

       they can understand exactly what we are looking at.

 

                 What matters to me is the function of

 

       these lungs.  Histology has several limitations.

 

       Transbronchial biopsy doesn't tell you anything

 

       about how extensive the disease is; FEV1 does.

 

       Transbronchial biopsy doesn't tell you anything

 

       about the clinical course of the disease and, as we

 

       know, chronic rejection can go very, very slowly

 

       over time and just maintain like that and not give

 

       too much disturbances.  Other clinical courses are

 

       really, really dramatic that go from a very fast

 

       onset.  What is indicated in all this is that there

 

       are several factors that are not only immunological

 

       but are also non-immunological factors, namely,

 

       infections that can, you know, go through this

 

       vicious cycle where the patient has rejection, gets

 

       immunosuppression, gets infection, more rejection

 

       and finally all these stimuli and calcineurin

 

       damage may lead to chronic rejection.  But what is

 

       really, really important is the effect on the
 

 

 

 

 

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       function of the graft--FEV1 and BOS, and this has

 

       been addressed by the International Society of

 

       Heart, Lung Transplantation that has, you know,

 

       clearly specified.  And, when we are looking at the

 

       treatment we have to look at the effect over time

 

       of serial measurements of FEV1 before and after the

 

       treatment in order to assess an effect of this

 

       drug.

 

                 DR. DILLY:  If I may comment, our

 

       perspective is we endorse--we want to know the

 

       effect of inhaled cyclosporine on lung function,

 

       but we would suggest that the cardinal endpoint is

 

       whether the patient is alive or dead and, frankly,

 

       you know, whether they are breathing easily is

 

       secondary compared to whether they are alive or

 

       dead.  And, we have a very strong signal in favor

 

       of mortality here which makes interpretation of

 

       some of the other endpoints rather difficult.  That

 

       is why we are suggesting that the right thing to do

 

       is to benefit from that finding, take this drug

 

       forward and study it in a much larger group of

 

       patients where we can really nail what the
 

 

 

 

 

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       trajectory of FEV1 is in patients who have their

 

       rejection controlled by inhaled cyclosporine.

 

                 DR. ZALKIKAR:  I want to make just one

 

       point regarding monitoring the study.  The study

 

       report that was submitted to us mentioned an

 

       interim analysis that was conducted by UPMC during

 

       the conduct of the study.  However, we did not

 

       receive any report.  There was no adjustment.

 

       There was no information about the boundary used or

 

       anything like that.  So, we requested that

 

       information.  In response, what we received was

 

       that the interim analysis that was mentioned in the

 

       study report was really the so-called final

 

       analysis from UPMC.  But prior to that during the

 

       course of the study there was another interim

 

       analysis that was also conducted.  The data was

 

       blinded at that point.  University investigators

 

       were blinded at that point and that data did

 

       suggest a difference in survival, although not

 

       significant at that point.  Again, there were no

 

       formal statistics done on these interim analyses.

 

                 DR. CAPRA:  Let me comment on that. 
 

 

 

 

 

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       Again, Chiron came into the study at the end of the

 

       trial basically when the results were already over.

 

       When we had the discussion with Dr. Iacona he

 

       talked about this analysis, and what he was

 

       referring to late and which we learned later was

 

       that this was the analysis looked at by their data

 

       monitoring committee.  There was a misunderstanding

 

       between Chiron and Dr. Iacona over terminology

 

       between basically the data monitoring committee

 

       versus formal interim analyses.  You know, in the

 

       analysis that was done by the data monitoring

 

       committee no adjustments were made as far as we

 

       could tell or Dr. Iacona communicated to us, and

 

       the study continued as planned.

 

                 DR. ZALKIKAR:  Also, I want to address an

 

       issue that came up about the definition of the

 

       endpoints.  Although the endpoints may have been

 

       defined, on reading of the document, it suggested

 

       that the definition was simply survival, chronic

 

       rejection and lung function in terms of FEV1.

 

       Also, the data analysis plan was created

 

       retrospectively after unblinding of the data as to
 

 

 

 

 

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       how to analyze those endpoints.

 

                 DR. CAVAILLE-COLL:  I want to address some

 

       of the comments or some of the questions by Dr.

 

       Hunsicker.  I think that we share with you concerns

 

       about when this data was really looked at, and we

 

       do know that the study was presented at the

 

       International Society of Heart, Lung

 

       Transplantation at an open session.  So, there were

 

       some analyses done at least before that

 

       presentation.  I don't recall the exact date of

 

       that and I don't recall when that took place with

 

       respect to the involvement of Chiron and this

 

       application.

 

                 We do not have a prospectively defined

 

       data analysis plan and, certainly, we were willing

 

       to look at survival because that is certainly an

 

       unequivocal endpoint.  But when it came to the

 

       secondary endpoints, such as those used to define

 

       chronic rejection, there really wasn't anything

 

       that was prospectively discussed with us and that

 

       was defined before the information on survival had

 

       become public.
 

 

 

 

 

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                 DR. PRUSSIN:  I have a question as far as

 

       the charge to the committee.  Do we go over that

 

       now?  Is this a reasonable time to do that?

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  Let me hold your question.

 

       I have several and we may have one other but we

 

       will get to that.  My question is to both sides

 

       here, and that is that in all of this we haven't

 

       discussed any issues around the potential toxicity

 

       over a longer period of time of these very high

 

       concentrations of drug on the airway.  The animal

 

       data rest largely on one-, two- and three-month

 

       data.  As I look at those data, I see that

 

       transiently at peak there are 100-fold greater

 

       concentrations of drug applied to the airway

 

       epithelium.  It does tail off but it still remains

 

       high.  And, the risk, as I see it in this field, is

 

       the issue of malignancy developing and the problem

 

       of post-transplant lymphoprolific disorder.  So, I

 

       wonder if both sides might touch on this issue

 

       about this dosing and down the road possible

 

       adverse consequences.

 

                 DR. JOHNSON:  Dale Johnson, from Chiron. 
 

 

 

 

 

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       One of the things that we did, of course, was to do

 

       toxicology studies in normal animals at high doses

 

       and look at those particular findings.  What you

 

       actually saw on the listing, for instance, doesn't

 

       actually describe the severity effects which are

 

       barely detectable.  So, from an acute standpoint it

 

       is fairly clear it is not an issue.  Chronically,

 

       there have been studies and they have been done

 

       with monkeys, and what I would like to do is to

 

       refer you to Dr. Allan Singer, who is from Battelle

 

       Institute, who actually has knowledge of those

 

       studies.

 

                 DR. SINGER:  I am Al Singer and I am from

 

       Battelle, which is a not-for-profit organization.

 

       We actually do very little work for Chiron so I

 

       don't really have a whole lot to gain one way or

 

       the other here.  They are not paying my salary,

 

       Battelle is.  They are reimbursing Battelle for my

 

       time for today.

 

                 The monkey studies were actually run with

 

       propylene glycol.  Those were run over a period of

 

       13 months at a saturated solution.  They caused no
 

 

 

 

 

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       effect.  But your question really relates to

 

       cyclosporine.  The main contribution I can make

 

       here--I was not the pathologist, veterinary

 

       pathologist, toxicologic pathologist; I was not the

 

       pathologist in either of those studies but I did

 

       peer review both of those studies, the rat and the

 

       dog study.  The lesions which were diagnosed--and

 

       there were lesions--there were minimal

 

       inflammations, sometimes mild inflammations in the

 

       alveoli and in the interstitial areas of the lungs

 

       and, frankly, it is within the realm of normal.  We

 

       did not run an air control on the dog study, and

 

       that is simply because we have run so darned many

 

       air control dogs through the years that it is just

 

       a waste of dogs.  At some point you have to decide

 

       why you are just putting more animals on a study;

 

       it is just a waste of animals.

 

                 The lesions that were seen in the

 

       propylene glycol controls are typical of what you

 

       would see in an air control in that study.  The

 

       pathologist reviewed those dog slides and we cut

 

       35, 40 slides.  He spent most of his time on 40X
 

 

 

 

 

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       looking for a few cells.

 

                 The only thing that we actually had any

 

       trouble with was the pinpoint ulcers in the larynx

 

       of some of the dogs, and we typically find those in

 

       controls as well.  It is my belief that it is the

 

       function of the way the mouthpiece works in the

 

       dog.  The rats are put into a tube and they have to

 

       breathe through the nose.  But in the case of the

 

       dog it is actually a tube that goes in the mouth

 

       and they have to breathe through the mouth, and I

 

       think that is somewhat drying.  But they are all

 

       within normal limits.  There are no acute findings

 

       within 28 days to speak of.

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  Well, I can imagine that

 

       they are typical.  What we are talking about is a

 

       concern raised in the literature that cancer and

 

       malignancies will be a problem with long-term

 

       chronic immunosuppression, and cyclosporine has

 

       been pin-pointed as a possible risk factor for

 

       that.  So, I don't think the animal studies are

 

       going to answer that.  Cancer just takes too much

 

       longer to evolve.  So, it is going to be an issue
 

 

 

 

 

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       only in the humans because what you are proposing

 

       is to take this out for more than two years, maybe

 

       five years or the life of the patients.

 

                 DR. DILLY:  Exactly right, and it may be

 

       worth showing slide PK-26.  First of all, there are

 

       few safety endpoints that trump survival and

 

       patients have to survive long enough to see the

 

       toxicity.  Second of all, what you are talking

 

       about are going to be low incidence signals.  If it

 

       was a high incidence signal it was likely to have

 

       been picked up by now.  Those will only be found

 

       with a significant sized study for a long time, and

 

       that is why we say that actually to nail questions

 

       exactly like the one that you are posing, the right

 

       way to do that is a five-year study following a

 

       large cohort of patients through treatment so we

 

       can look at the incidence.

 

                 We also have the very nice reference point

 

       of, for instance, the UNOS database, where we can

 

       look at the incidence in people not receiving

 

       inhaled cyclosporine.  So, that is why we see in

 

       this context that a postapproval study, running for
 

 

 

 

 

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       a long time to gather this kind of data, is

 

       entirely the right way to go.

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  Before you step down, let me

 

       raise just one issue.  If, in fact, this committee

 

       votes positively to proceed here, what assurance do

 

       we have that this study will be done?  The track

 

       record, as was highlighted recently in an article

 

       in the LA Times last week pertaining to fast track

 

       approval, and in essence this is something similar

 

       to fast track approval, and many of these

 

       promissory notes have not been delivered and,

 

       therefore, if this does go to approval it is really

 

       a contingent approval.

 

                 DR. DILLY:  I will give you three answers

 

       to that.  The first one is that it is entirely

 

       within the FDA's regulations, FDA's own regulations

 

       to hold us to a postapproval commitment, not

 

       withstanding whether it is accelerated approval or

 

       not.

 

                 Second of all, this is part of a much

 

       broader commitment of Chiron to lung disease, and

 

       we have referred to our treatment of cystic
 

 

 

 

 

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       fibrosis with TOBI.  We followed that population.

 

       One of the reasons we got here in the first place

 

       was patients with cystic fibrosis receiving TOBI

 

       for pseudomonal infections.  We have been very

 

       diligent in furthering that treatment, for instance

 

       with our drug powder inhaler program where we

 

       followed through with a program to optimize that

 

       therapy.

 

                 Third of all, and probably the most

 

       important, is think about how you commercialize a

 

       drug like this.  Trying to get broad adoption of a

 

       treatment based on a single-site study in 26 active

 

       patients versus 30 control patients is an uphill

 

       proposition.  This is exactly the study that we

 

       want to do to generate publications, to generate

 

       more data to talk about, and to underwrite the

 

       widespread adoption because if we can do the study,

 

       then we can optimize the dosing regimen.  We have

 

       the option to optimize the formulation.  We have

 

       the option to just get it right in the long-term

 

       for patients with lung transplantation.

 

                 In the absence of this kind of study this
 

 

 

 

 

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       could be the sum total of the clinical experience

 

       with inhaled cyclosporine that is interpretable,

 

       for some of the reasons that we talked about

 

       before.  So, it is in our mutual interest to do

 

       this study.

 

                 DR. HUNSICKER:  Just an extension of that,

 

       you argued before that one of the major reasons for

 

       requesting approval now, rather than doing a

 

       definitive study that you just talked about, would

 

       be that it would be both unethical and impossible

 

       to recruit patients to a study if there was this

 

       publication, which is undoubtedly going to be out.

 

       But you just said now that you don't think you can

 

       commercialize this unless, in fact, there is better

 

       data.  That would imply that there would be

 

       patients who might be available and that it

 

       wouldn't be unethical.  So, is there a

 

       contradiction here?

 

                 DR. DILLY:  Not really.  We are talking

 

       about 250 patients over five years compared to

 

       about approximately 2000 patients treated worldwide

 

       every year.  So, during the conduct of this study,
 

 

 

 

 

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       say, we take a year to enroll 250 patients and then

 

       five years to follow them up, that is six years

 

       worth of treatment and that is 12,000 people

 

       worldwide getting transplanted.  It is a relatively

 

       small subset of the overall population that we

 

       would be putting in this study.  We do see that

 

       having a robust, ongoing program of research to

 

       optimize the drug is the right thing to do because,

 

       as we said from the get-go, not all the questions

 

       have been nailed down by the single study right

 

       now.

 

                 DR. ZALKIKAR:  If I may just say something

 

       that came to my mind as I looked at this slide,

 

       PK-26 that the applicant put up, we saw this slide

 

       and an effort was made to match the placebo

 

       patients to the UNOS data, but we didn't see any

 

       effort to match the cyclosporine patients to the

 

       UNOS data in terms of baseline factors.

 

                 DR. DILLY:  In fact, you did see that

 

       slide during the presentation this morning, and the

 

       p value and the point estimate were almost entirely

 

       the same as in the original analysis.
 

 

 

 

 

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                 DR. ZALKIKAR:  That was a comparison of

 

       the cyclosporine arm in the study to the UNOS

 

       matched controls.

 

                 DR. CAPRA:  As Dr. Zalkikar was

 

       mentioning, we did compare the cyclosporine

 

       subjects to the UNOS matched controls and we used

 

       the same matching criteria.  We matched by

 

       transplant type, CMV match or mismatch, early acute

 

       rejection, age where we took the ages in brackets,

 

       and sex and, not surprising--I mean, this result is

 

       positive given that the comparison from the placebo

 

       to the UNOS was nearly identical.  So, here the

 

       p value is 0.19 and the relative risk estimate of

 

       0.252 is nearly identical to what we saw in the

 

       primary analysis of 0.213.

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  Dr. Tisdale?

 

                 DR. TISDALE:  I had a question that was

 

       percolating some time ago.  We seem to be inferring

 

       from the analysis of this study that it is all post

 

       hoc and the primary endpoint was not met.  But I

 

       imagine the primary endpoint was decided upon

 

       because it was felt that it was more likely to be
 

 

 

 

 

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       impacted by this.

 

                 But I want to be sure that I understand

 

       that in the original study that was written for

 

       three years--it wasn't re-funded, probably because

 

       the primary endpoint wasn't met and there was no

 

       difference--survival was in fact one of the

 

       endpoints, one of the secondary endpoints, and in

 

       the analysis of one of the secondary endpoints that

 

       was a planned part of this study there was a highly

 

       statistically significant difference, and that is

 

       the reason why we are all here.

 

                 DR. IACONA:  Unfortunately, I don't have

 

       the statistical section of the NIH grant with me to

 

       show the audience.  It is written as an endpoint of

 

       survival as a secondary endpoint, as is chronic

 

       rejection and bronchiolitis obliterans syndrome.

 

       One of the analyses that I did independently was to

 

       actually look at change in FEV1 from peak, as is

 

       conventionally done, and calculate individual

 

       slopes.  I calculated individual slopes between the

 

       cyclosporine and the placebo patients and, at least

 

       by my independent analyses, I am showing a
 

 

 

 

 

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       difference between the rate of decline in the

 

       cyclosporine versus the placebo.  Now, I don't have

 

       the background that Chiron does, but that was also

 

       mentioned as part of the analysis.  I am not sure

 

       why that is not being presented or accepted, and I

 

       can show you how I did it independently.  But the

 

       chronic rejection is a secondary endpoint and we

 

       looked at chronic rejection in our study by

 

       bronchiolitis obliterans syndrome and by

 

       histological rejection.  If one should read through

 

       the transplant literature, our pathology department

 

       is probably the best in the world in diagnosing

 

       chronic rejection by histology and we really

 

       emphasize that in our grant, that we are going to

 

       look at histological OB.

 

                 The second point that you made was what we

 

       should pick as a primary endpoint.  Well, when you

 

       look at transplant drugs it is believable and

 

       acceptable by the NIH, if one should mention acute

 

       rejection as a primary endpoint and that was our

 

       thinking, Dr. Griffith's and my own thinking, that

 

       acute rejection is a conventional endpoint for a
 

 

 

 

 

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       transplant drug.  It is taken as an endpoint

 

       because it is a surrogate marker of chronic

 

       rejection.  If I went and I suggested that

 

       aerosolized cyclosporine would be the first drug

 

       ever to prevent chronic rejection my grant would

 

       not get funded.

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  Dr. Burdick?

 

                 DR. BURDICK:  I would like to just explore

 

       the alternative to the proposed study, which would

 

       be perhaps a smaller number of patients, a

 

       randomized trial.  I think a lot is being hung on

 

       the perception that around the country it would not

 

       be possible to do that.  I am not totally

 

       convinced.  I think there is obviously a great deal

 

       of interest around the country in this potentially

 

       radical advantage.  But I think that a lot of

 

       patients don't complete the course; don't get very

 

       far in the course.  It is a huge expense--there are

 

       a lot of things about it I think.  I would like to

 

       hear perhaps more of the argument that a randomized

 

       trial, much smaller in scale but powered to provide

 

       capacity to see the difference that we are hearing
 

 

 

 

 

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       is believed this trial gave us from the data we

 

       have now, why that wouldn't be a viable

 

       alternative.

 

                 DR. DILLY:  There are several points.

 

       First of all, our analysis of the data, as we have

 

       said from the very start of our session today, is

 

       that there is a robust survival advantage for

 

       inhaled cyclosporine.  Therefore, we think the

 

       right thing to do is to make this treatment

 

       available to patients with lung transplantation.

 

       Therefore, we actually do not see withholding

 

       therapy, even in the context of the clinical trial,

 

       as a desirable way to go if there is an

 

       alternative.

 

                 We believe the very strength of the

 

       available data on the natural history of survival

 

       after lung transplantation means that we don't have

 

       to randomize patients to placebo.  So, we took what

 

       we saw as a much more sound approach of saying

 

       let's do a big study rather than a small study

 

       which will allow us to also look at some of the

 

       secondary phenomena like the effect on pulmonary
 

 

 

 

 

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       function, like the effect on chronic rejection, as

 

       well as survival.  So, we felt it was a more

 

       elegant way forward than another placebo-controlled

 

       study and a more appropriate way forward.

 

                 We also had advice from our advisers that

 

       it would, in fact, be rather problematic, and we

 

       did our own internal soul searching around how

 

       would you write an informed consent form with that

 

       Kaplan-Meier shape.  And, drawing on my own

 

       personal experience in oncology where, in the face

 

       of this kind of survival endpoint, you do

 

       everything you can to get patients onto active

 

       therapy.

 

                 DR. BURDICK:  So, in essence, what the

 

       proposal is--the point that it is effective is

 

       proven and we are going on from there to look at

 

       the details.  I think that that happens a lot,

 

       especially in transplantation where the numbers are

 

       small and there are a variety of sort of opinions

 

       around the country about exactly how to best treat

 

       patients and you end up with a series of papers

 

       written showing exactly how this or that effect is
 

 

 

 

 

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       optimized by this or that approach, and a lot of

 

       good things, and ultimately truth comes out of

 

       that.  But that would happen anyway if the FDA just

 

       said, okay, approve it.

 

                 The trial you propose with an OPTN

 

       control, which is going to have some problems--I am

 

       not sure exactly what is in the OPTN database that

 

       would provide you with what you need for your

 

       control group.  Maybe it is good.  Maybe you could

 

       address that.  But I am concerned that we will have

 

       a series of opinions about details around the

 

       treatment but it is not going to extend how

 

       convincing the big picture is, which is does it

 

       make a difference or not since you are hearing some

 

       concerns about whether that really has been proven.

 

                 DR. DILLY:  Our take on that is that

 

       currently the five-year survival for lung

 

       transplantation is quite well nailed down at around

 

       50 percent, and that has not been a point of major

 

       contention.  The control group in the ACS001 study

 

       behaved very like a control group in external

 

       controls.  It has all been about the remarkable
 

 

 

 

 

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       trajectory of the patients who received inhaled

 

       cyclosporine, and what we want to do in the

 

       confirmatory study is confirm that remarkable

 

       trajectory.  Therefore, we can draw statistical

 

       plans around the point estimate and the confidence

 

       intervals of one year, two years, five, and so

 

       forth, and we see that as the most powerful way of

 

       generating the data that are necessary to address

 

       this question.

 

                 DR. BURDICK:  I don't mean to argue this

 

       extensively, but you are caught in the same

 

       situation as we are in transplantation otherwise.

 

       By the time you are calculating your endpoints you

 

       are going to have patients on MMF being moved back

 

       and forth on rapomyacin and you are going to end up

 

       with a series of observations that characterize

 

       certain subsets or certain areas and seem

 

       convincing, and it is not again going to provide

 

       you further strength against the critics who might

 

       say this is very interesting but we haven't seen

 

       that it is really making a difference that is

 

       proven.
 

 

 

 

 

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                 DR. DILLY:  If in seven years time we are

 

       looking at data that says that the point estimate

 

       on five-year survival with inhaled cyclosporine

 

       really is 85 percent, it will be absolutely clear

 

       that that is different from the current practice.

 

       And, we are confident enough in these data having,

 

       as you have seen stress tested them every way, that

 

       we could think of that as appropriate, that we are

 

       going to see an effect that is clearly different

 

       from past practice and that is what we are

 

       interested in pursuing.

 

                 DR. GOLDBERGER:  Dr. Swenson, I was

 

       wondering whether it would be helpful--the company

 

       has Dr. Golden here and another expert, if maybe it

 

       would be helpful to the committee to hear their

 

       views on the types of trials that could be done

 

       with and without prior approval because they are

 

       the kind of people who actually have to do those

 

       trials practically.

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  Fair enough.  Dr. Golden, do

 

       you want to take that?

 

                 DR. GOLDEN:  I got most of your question. 
 

 

 

 

 

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       Do you mind just summarizing it?

 

                 DR. GOLDBERGER:  Yes, there has been a lot

 

       of talk about what kind of trial could be done.  In

 

       particular, whether a placebo-controlled trial

 

       could be done at this point in time with this

 

       information already public and and probably will be

 

       more public when an article comes out about it, and

 

       what your take is about that and about the

 

       situation for further studying this therapy.

 

                 DR. GOLDEN:  I have to believe that given

 

       the change in survival in this study that that is,

 

       (a), going to be sustained in another study and

 

       (b), it will be very hard to look at my patients

 

       and ask them to be in a placebo arm.  This is

 

       always the problem with any study.  But I happen to

 

       think that in my institution my IRB will likely

 

       say, especially after a publication, that this

 

       information is already out there in abstract form

 

       and otherwise.  I have to explain to a patient that

 

       this inhaled therapy, a novel approach, has been

 

       the first absolute study to show a change in our

 

       dismal outcome at five years.
 

 

 

 

 

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                 I must say to the point of rapomyacin

 

       trials, now at 24 months, it hasn't shown any

 

       difference in obliterative bronchiolitis.  I think,

 

       as a physician, that I am not going to be able to

 

       entice patients to go in a placebo group in the

 

       context of this inhaled therapy.

 

                 I would very much actually like to ask

 

       Bert Trulock his opinion on that question as well.

 

                 DR. TRULOCK:  Thanks, Jeff.  Bert Trulock,

 

       from Washington University.  I don't have very much

 

       to add to what Jeff has already said.  But

 

       presented with this evidence, I am not sure that

 

       there is an IRB in the country that would approve a

 

       randomized, placebo-controlled trial.  Certainly,

 

       at our university when presented with this kind of

 

       information these days, it is very difficult for

 

       the IRB to approve a placebo-controlled trial.

 

                 Aside from that, there are the emotions

 

       that Jeff described in convincing patients to go

 

       into a placebo-controlled trial when this

 

       information is already in the public domain.  So, I

 

       don't believe that it is practical to do a
 

 

 

 

 

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       placebo-controlled study.

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  Instead of a placebo arm,

 

       what about the possibility of some lower dose that

 

       might achieve at the airway level essentially the

 

       same levels that are obtained with oral dosing?

 

       This would then offer patients at least something

 

       active, and it is still a question that is relevant

 

       because we don't know what the dose-response

 

       relationship is.

 

                 DR. TRULOCK:  I can't speak for Chiron,

 

       but I think those kind of dose-ranging studies are

 

       obviously important, and there are many things like

 

       that that can and need to be done in a postapproval

 

       study.

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  And it doesn't seem as if

 

       you would need 250.  If this is really as robust as

 

       it is, simply another trial of 50-75 patients, if

 

       it showed exactly the same--I think the question

 

       would be moot about survival advantage.  Dr.

 

       Proschan?

 

                 DR. PROSCHAN:  If I had anything to say, I

 

       have forgotten it now.
 

 

 

 

 

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                 [Laughter]

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  Dr. Barrett?

 

                 DR. BARRETT:  As I was listening,

 

       particularly as the sponsor pointed out what their

 

       plans were next, I am not so sure that an

 

       additional confirmatory trial, ethical reasons

 

       aside, is going to be necessarily informative here.

 

       There are so many other questions with regard to

 

       how often this agent should be given; what dose;

 

       and the disconnect between acute response and the

 

       chronic response data that you see here.  There is

 

       some disconnect as far as disease progression.  The

 

       FDA pointed out that these two maybe should be

 

       closer linked and the overwhelming evidence that

 

       you have a signal here, although unanticipated, is

 

       very large in magnitude.  Those seem to be more

 

       relevant questions that would be addressed not from

 

       repeating this with a bigger N but with a study

 

       design that is perhaps more exploratory in nature.

 

                 Maybe just to ask the FDA, you know, you

 

       put in your slides the expectation of the

 

       correlation between acute rejection and chronic
 

 

 

 

 

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       rejection but I didn't see any references there.

 

       Could you comment a little bit more about what you

 

       would expect to see there?

 

                 DR. HERNANDEZ:  Yes, this is well

 

       documented about the relationship between acute and

 

       chronic rejection.  This has been documented in

 

       literature and registry data.  As a matter of fact,

 

       the sponsor agreed that one of the factors that is

 

       important to take into consideration is to take

 

       into consideration acute rejection.  Basically, I

 

       would say the natural history of these patients

 

       will be developing acute rejection; getting

 

       treatment for this acute rejection and infections.

 

       So, this meets the category of the multifactorial

 

       nature of chronic rejection.

 

                 If we are looking at a drug that is

 

       supposed to prevent or decrease the degree of

 

       chronic rejection, which is one of the leading

 

       causes after the second year of transplantation, it

 

       is completely reasonable to look at long-term

 

       outcomes and look at correlation with the degree of

 

       disease progression which would be reflected in the
 

 

 

 

 

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       histology of the lung.  As I pointed out before,

 

       the limitations of defining chronic rejection only

 

       by biopsy and giving it weight similar to BOS, from

 

       my clinical perspective, is not adequate because,

 

       as I said before, it doesn't have the ability to

 

       predict the extent of the disease, the rate of this

 

       disease progression, and those are things that are

 

       very relevant questions.  When we don't see this

 

       correlation between acute and chronic rejection,

 

       and if chronic rejection is really prevented, we

 

       would expect to see at least some evidence on the

 

       preservation of lung function and we don't see

 

       that.  And that is one of the disturbing things

 

       that put a question mark in this difference in

 

       mortality.

 

                 It is not that we are questioning that

 

       these patients are not dying.  There is no

 

       difference in the graft.  The problem is are the

 

       patients in the placebo group dying because of

 

       other causes, because of the baseline

 

       characteristics of these patients, or are these

 

       patients surviving because they have better
 

 

 

 

 

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       starting points and not because of the

 

       cyclosporine?  I mean these kind of questions when

 

       you don't see these correlations, when you don't

 

       see that everything is going in the right

 

       direction, then make you think about what is going

 

       on over here.

 

                 DR. TRULOCK:  There has been an

 

       association between acute rejection and chronic

 

       rejection in most of the multivariate analyses that

 

       have been done.  However, many patients develop

 

       chronic rejection without ever having a single

 

       episode of acute rejection.  Furthermore, just

 

       because there is a statistical association in

 

       multivariate studies, that doesn't mean there is a

 

       cause and effect relationship between acute

 

       rejection and chronic rejection.  That is, it is

 

       not a requirement that acute rejection occurs

 

       before chronic rejection can develop.  All of these

 

       things are probably in the continuum of

 

       allo-reactivity that is not well controlled by the

 

       current immunosuppressive medications.

 

                 DR. HERNANDEZ:  Yes, I agree with that
 

 

 

 

 

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       fact.  Acute rejection could be not clinically

 

       evident and could be subclinical, and I agree that

 

       chronic rejection could be developed without acute

 

       rejection but that is not the rule.  I mean, I

 

       understand that, for example, there are other

 

       factors that could be taken into account for the

 

       development of chronic rejection and acute

 

       rejection is only one but the rule, what you would

 

       like to see, is the patient who had acute rejection

 

       correlating with chronic rejection, not the other

 

       way.  It is not the rule that the patient doesn't

 

       have acute rejection and develops chronic

 

       rejection.  That is my point.

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  At this juncture I think we

 

       probably need to get to the questions at hand.  Dr.

 

       Prussin, you had a question about the charge and

 

       maybe we could have you ask your question and then

 

       Dr. Albrecht will proceed with the discussion to

 

       those questions.

 

                 DR. PRUSSIN:  Dr. Albrecht, the charge as

 

       written has a fairly binary yes or no answer to the

 

       question and I think what we have seen here is that
 

 

 

 

 

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       this is a fairly unusual application.  There is a

 

       lot of grey area.  We were talking about p values

 

       and the fact that while these p values give you an

 

       indication they really shouldn't be thought of in a

 

       quantitative sense.  So, I guess my question for

 

       you is if you could elaborate a bit and

 

       clarify--and I know from statute that approval of a

 

       drug such as this has the same requirements as

 

       drugs for larger patient populations that are not

 

       orphan drugs, but how should we manage that?

 

       Clearly, this is not the typical binary situation

 

       where we have Ns of thousands, and this is a

 

       population of patients that clearly has a huge

 

       mortality.  Can you give us a little more

 

       instruction on how to factor that into our

 

       thinking?  Thanks.

 

                 DR. ALBRECHT:  You raise good points and

 

       you have very well summarized the challenge before

 

       us.  The truth is our decision does have to be

 

       binary.  As I mentioned in the introduction, we did

 

       have difficulty reaching the conclusion that would

 

       allow us to make that decision.  So we did, in
 

 

 

 

 

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       fact, want to bring this to the committee to hear

 

       your perspectives on this with all the challenges

 

       that you have identified.

 

                 In the event that it is difficult to come

 

       to sort of a yes or no recommendation, it would be

 

       very important for us to understand both where you

 

       believe the data are convincing and where you

 

       still, in your own assessment of these data, have

 

       questions and where you believe the unanswered

 

       questions are.

 

                 I don't know if that helps but I think we

 

       all acknowledge that this is a very difficult

 

       scenario.  I think we heard earlier during the day

 

       about there being promising potential here,

 

       something to that effect, and I think we certainly

 

       concur with that.  I think we heard some analogies

 

       to gambling and I think, being regulators, we are

 

       not willing to gamble with patients' health and,

 

       therefore, we take these questions very seriously

 

       and are very seriously looking into your

 

       perspectives and how much has been demonstrated;

 

       how confident are we that the questions have been
 

 

 

 

 

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       answered about the efficacy of the product, mainly

 

       the safety, or how confident are we that there is

 

       still further information that needs to be

 

       gathered.

 

                 Parenthetically, I know we talked about

 

       the pharmacology/toxicology information.  I didn't

 

       know if we needed more information on that, but our

 

       pharm/tox review is available.  Just to repeat, the

 

       FDA only received those one-month toxicology

 

       studies.  I could parenthetically say that for

 

       products that are administered chronically the FDA

 

       actually does request carcinogenicity studies.

 

       Those can be done preapproval or those can also be

 

       done as postmarketing commitments after approval.

 

       But we do not at this point have an aerosolized

 

       cyclosporine carcinogenicity study.  There were

 

       carcinogenicity studies done with the systemic

 

       formulation.

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  Dr. Venitz?

 

                 DR. VENITZ:  I have a follow-up question,

 

       not regarding the process as much as the

 

       consequences.  Let's assume that the committee
 

 

 

 

 

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       votes in favor of approving the product and let's

 

       assume you follow our recommendation, what are your

 

       tools to enforce a follow-up study as suggested by

 

       Chiron?

 

                 DR. ALBRECHT:  As you have heard allusion

 

       to accelerated approval, that is a regulation that

 

       allows us to approve a product on a surrogate

 

       endpoint and then request confirmatory studies.  At

 

       this moment, I do not believe that is the question

 

       on the table.  So, in a setting of approving a

 

       product in the conventional fashion what we can do

 

       is request that a company commit to conducting a

 

       postmarketing study and we put that in the action

 

       letter.  We put that in the action letter after

 

       receiving a letter of commitment from the company.

 

       I don't have the data as far as postmarketing

 

       studies for what the record of completion of those

 

       is but, again, our expectation would be that the

 

       postmarketing study would be done as committed to

 

       by the company.

 

                 DR. VENITZ:  The reason why I bring that

 

       up is that somebody mentioned the survey that was
 

 

 

 

 

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       published, I think it was in "The Los Angeles

 

       Times," and only 50 percent of those promises are

 

       kept.  I think that is obviously something we have

 

       to consider as we discuss the responses to the

 

       question.  You are basically saying a letter is

 

       going to be written that is going to be agreed upon

 

       by both parties, but from that point on there is

 

       nothing that you can do.

 

                 DR. ALBRECHT:  I am not aware that, other

 

       than having that commitment, there are other sort

 

       of regulatory steps that the agency has available.

 

                 DR. SCAIFE:  May I just comment on that?

 

       I obviously defer to the FDA regarding legal

 

       requirements but I think it is true, what you say,

 

       that the commitment that the FDA issues to a

 

       sponsor is a legal commitment.  This is not "would

 

       you like to do this?"  This is not an option.

 

       Whether the Office of the Inspector General, in

 

       other words the chief counsel of the FDA decides to

 

       enforce, that is really a decision of the general

 

       counsel.  If you actually look at the trends over

 

       the last few years and if you actually look at some
 

 

 

 

 

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       of the congressional activity, there are very

 

       strong signals that they are going to tighten this

 

       up.  If you look, for example, at warning letters,

 

       a warning letter is issued by the FDA that is

 

       sanctioned by the OIG which is basically telling

 

       the company you have got to do something; if you

 

       don't there will be a legal consequence.  If you

 

       look at the trending over the last few years, those

 

       letters have changed in tenor.  So, those letters

 

       now almost invariably are actually issued and go

 

       through the OIG.  That is basically saying an

 

       attorney is underwriting this.  So, I think if you

 

       actually want to look at the statistics, when those

 

       letters are issued those postapproval commitments

 

       would be enforced.  It has a legal meaning.  It is

 

       legally binding.  Up to now the question has been

 

       whether the FDA has been prepared to enforce it or

 

       not.  But if you look at the statistics, OIG is

 

       getting a lot more blunt about it.

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  Dr. Schoenfeld?

 

                 DR. SCHOENFELD:  Are we at a point now

 

       where people can begin making their comments on the
 

 

 

 

 

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       data, or are we not yet at that point?

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  We are fast approaching it.

 

       Do you wish to start that?  We could go ahead and

 

       focus on question one.  You are first.

 

                 DR. SCHOENFELD:  First I want to talk only

 

       about the mortality endpoint and the discussion

 

       that we have had about various covariate

 

       adjustments of that endpoint and various subgroup

 

       analyses.

 

                 First, people should realize that if you

 

       do a randomized study a p value is valid if you

 

       close your eyes entirely to the patient

 

       characteristics.  You don't need to look at patient

 

       characteristics to justify a p value.  What ends up

 

       happening is that if there is no difference you can

 

       be wrong five percent of the time, and rolled up

 

       into that five percent are all the times that you

 

       get a bad break or a good break with covariates.

 

       So, that is the first thing to realize.  Covariates

 

       don't count.  You don't have to look at them.

 

                 The second thing is if you do look at

 

       them, if you decide to split your data by one
 

 

 

 

 

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       covariate and to analyze within each covariate

 

       group and pool the results, in a randomized study

 

       the randomization carries over to each subgroup.

 

       That is very nice.  That means that when you split

 

       there is no presumption--let's say you do a study

 

       and you do have imbalance in one group and you

 

       decide, well, I am going to split, you are now

 

       saying I am not going to use the original p value.

 

       I am going to do another p value, and that p value

 

       is also valid which, of course, is a big

 

       contradiction in people's minds.  How can two

 

       different p values be valid?  But they are.  The

 

       fact is that there should be no presumption that

 

       because they are unbalanced in one covariate they

 

       will be unbalanced in other covariates because they

 

       were randomized within whatever subgroup you view,

 

       and this is something else.

 

                 Now, people often expect that imbalances

 

       will propagate down subgroups because they are used

 

       to observational studies, and in observational

 

       studies this isn't true.  In observational studies

 

       you don't have that factor that randomization
 

 

 

 

 

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       protects balance through subgroups, and when you

 

       see imbalance in one subgroup you presume it is

 

       going to be imbalanced in other subgroups and you

 

       presume it is going to be imbalanced in things that

 

       you didn't measure.  But a randomized study is not

 

       that kind of study.  A randomized study is a study

 

       that if you didn't measure something you should

 

       assume it is balanced in it and not that it is

 

       unbalanced in it.

 

                 These are just sort of factors that people

 

       should try to understand.  So, I thought that the

 

       survival analysis was robust and the reason is

 

       that, first, all of these subgroup analyses or

 

       these stratified analyses are somewhat post hoc and

 

       you can search for good p values or bad p values.

 

       You can make just as much of a mistake trying to

 

       kill a p value as you can to sort of create a p

 

       value.  So, when you have a lot of them they are

 

       all suspect.  So, you end up having to use your

 

       reason, watching them and watching them, and it is

 

       clear that the FDA did admit that they were driven

 

       to look for imbalances by another problem, which is
 

 

 

 

 

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       the problem that the rationale didn't fit.  Okay?

 

       Then they were looking for something that would

 

       throw away the p value, and I think that that is

 

       kind of not a good idea.  So, I think that survival

 

       benefit can't be thrown away because of all these

 

       various analyses.  I think that you have to see it

 

       as standing.  So, I wanted to say that first.

 

                 Now let's deal with the other analyses

 

       because I think the thing that the agency was sort

 

       of concerned about was sort of mechanism of action

 

       issues.  That is, they said, well, so there is a

 

       survival difference and the mechanism of action

 

       doesn't seem to work because there wasn't an acute

 

       rejection difference.  This is probably a harder

 

       problem.

 

                 First, one of the things is that I am used

 

       to survival being the primary endpoint and one of

 

       the reasons that survival is often the primary

 

       endpoint in studies is that when there is a

 

       survival difference you never can analyze for

 

       anything else because what happens is that the

 

       deaths cause biases.  So, it is important to
 

 

 

 

 

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       understand this phenomenon.  For instance, if there

 

       were three people who were quite sick and died

 

       right away even if it had nothing to do with the

 

       treatment, those are three people who are bad

 

       actors who have been pulled out of the placebo

 

       group.  Okay?  That automatically means that if you

 

       just remove those people and look subsequent to

 

       those three deaths every analysis is biased by the

 

       fact that the patients aren't balanced in the two

 

       groups.

 

                 In fact, this is a problem in general,

 

       that any analysis that is based on subsets that are

 

       defined after treatment began is biased.  Those are

 

       problems that you have in really even analyzing

 

       FEV1, acute rejection, chronic rejection, all of

 

       those things where you try to remove survival.  For

 

       instance, I was sort of scratching my head about

 

       the FEV1 because I couldn't really know whether it

 

       was due to the different amounts of follow-up time

 

       in the two treatments.  This is also acute

 

       rejection.  I mean, the FEV1 is particularly

 

       strange because actually the treated group had much
 

 

 

 

 

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       better FEV1 during the whole course of treatment,

 

       but this could actually be a benefit of treatment

 

       but we don't know because we don't have a baseline.

 

       Actually, it is not clear that baseline is even

 

       that meaningful.  So, it is difficult to analyze.

 

                 So, when you look at these secondary

 

       endpoints, if the deaths that occurred without

 

       these secondary endpoints had nothing to do with

 

       the secondary endpoints, then those analyses would

 

       become unbiased but nobody really believes that is

 

       true.  So, we have a bunch of biased analyses, and

 

       most of them actually would be biased towards

 

       placebo basically because I think it is reasonable

 

       to assume that the people who died would tend to be

 

       the bad actors and that would bias FEV.  It would

 

       bias acute rejection, and so on.

 

                 Anyway, when I sort of count those up,

 

       FEV1 was negative.  Acute rejection was negative.

 

       Chronic rejection was positive including both

 

       endpoints.  So, I think the situation really is

 

       that we have a fairly robust survival benefit and

 

       our problem really simply is that we don't really
 

 

 

 

 

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       understand this acute rejection well enough to

 

       really use it.

 

                 DR. HERNANDEZ:  Well, my main concern is

 

       acute rejection, of course, but my main concern is

 

       this, if I am following a patient with FEV1's and I

 

       have a drug that is going to graft rejection I

 

       would like to see that this FEV1, which is the

 

       physiology of the lung, to be preserved regardless

 

       of at what level they start, whatever the baseline.

 

       And, what I would like to see is that if the group

 

       that has not preserved that function, I would like

 

       to see the natural history of decline of these FEV1

 

       declines over time.  But if I see these two graphs

 

       to be parallel and the slope analysis doesn't show

 

       any significance and the slope is similar, then I

 

       don't see any preservation of the function.

 

                 DR. SCHOENFELD:  Those graphs are biased

 

       anyway because in one group people are being culled

 

       out by death and in the other group people aren't

 

       being culled out so fast.  So, a longitudinal graph

 

       over time where you are just looking at the

 

       marginal comparison isn't actually valid.  It isn't
 

 

 

 

 

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       a valid statistic.  That is, in other words, if you

 

       look at the FEV for all patients at, let's say, two

 

       and a half years you have six or seven people who

 

       are not in one group and who are in the other

 

       group.  That is, the only valid analysis would be

 

       somehow to subset the analysis by the people who

 

       would have been alive on both treatments if they

 

       had had both treatments.  You can create models to

 

       estimate that but they are all models and nothing

 

       is perfect.  But just looking at the graph isn't

 

       really a fair comparison.

 

                 DR. HERNANDEZ:  The only thing is not only

 

       looking at the graph but also to look at the

 

       incidence of BOS as defined by the sponsor.  Really

 

       this is something that is bothering me.  If you

 

       look at a drug that is preserving the lung

 

       function, that is preventing chronic rejection, you

 

       need to see a benefit in the function of the lung.

 

       That is something that you would like to see.  I

 

       mean, you can't say to the patient I am going to

 

       give you this drug that is going to prevent chronic

 

       rejection but I am not sure the lung function is
 

 

 

 

 

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       going to be improved or is going to be maintained.

 

       That is my main concern.

 

                 DR. ZALKIKAR:  I want to address a couple

 

       of things.  There was pre-enrollment FEV1 available

 

       in the patients and the final FEV1 available in the

 

       patients and we took the difference in each patient

 

       between the final and the pre-enrollment FEV1, and

 

       even those differences didn't show any

 

       significance.

 

                 DR. SCHOENFELD:  But that was already

 

       subsetted.  That was only about half the patients

 

       who had pre-enrollment FEVs.

 

                 DR. ZALKIKAR:  That is right.  Of course,

 

       we had to impute the missing data.

 

                 DR. SCHOENFELD:  I mean, I think it might

 

       be reasonable to say--I mean, I really am

 

       supporting this application now but I would think

 

       it is reasonable to say that there is something

 

       that we don't understand here.  Okay?  And, that is

 

       true but I think that then the question is do we

 

       have to understand everything in order to approve

 

       drugs?  If things were completely the other way, if
 

 

 

 

 

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       there was no difference in survival but you did see

 

       a difference in FEV we would be in the same

 

       situation in a sense.  We would still have the

 

       question of, well, how come it produced a

 

       difference in FEV and how come it didn't produce a

 

       difference in survival?  Especially with a small

 

       study, we can't understand everything.  Even with a

 

       big study we tend not to be able to understand

 

       everything.

 

                 DR. HERNANDEZ:  My problem is this, if you

 

       are going to give a drug it does need to have a

 

       clinical effect.  If you are giving this drug to

 

       prevent chronic rejection, this drug should have a

 

       clinical effect.

 

                 DR. SCHOENFELD:  You mean a physiological

 

       effect.

 

                 DR. HERNANDEZ:  Exactly.

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  We should move on to other

 

       members.  Dr. Hunsicker?

 

                 DR. HUNSICKER:  First, I would like to

 

       suggest, Dr. Swenson--I may be totally out of

 

       order, but if we are going to go back and forth
 

 

 

 

 

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       between either the FDA or the other side arguing

 

       each point, we are never going to get anywhere, and

 

       I would really suggest that we limit the discussion

 

       for the time being to the committee members unless

 

       we have specific questions of the other people.

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  I agree.  We need to move on

 

       to a vote and I would like to at least open this up

 

       to the rest of the panel members here for any other

 

       questions or observations before we make that vote.

 

                 DR. HUNSICKER:  I have a technical

 

       response to the question from--I don't know what

 

       your name is--

 

                 DR. SCHOENFELD:  David.

 

                 DR. HUNSICKER:  David.  There is, in fact,

 

       a way to look at the FEV1 data that hasn't been

 

       done so we can't use it today.  You can do a mixed

 

       model analysis so long as you include the last

 

       measurement that was associated with what caused

 

       the failure.  And it has been shown that that

 

       unrelieves the bias of informative censoring.

 

                 DR. PROSCHAN:  That is not true.  I mean,

 

       it depends on whether it is missing at random
 

 

 

 

 

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       versus not missing at random.

 

                 DR. HUNSICKER:  We can discuss this later

 

       on but there are additional analyses that could be

 

       more informative than what we have.

 

                 DR. PROSCHAN:  That is true.

 

                 DR. HUNSICKER:  I would like to give my

 

       approach to this which I offer up because it is

 

       really opposite to yours, Dr. Schoenfeld.  Where we

 

       start out in this application is that there was a

 

       very well formulated hypothesis that use of this

 

       agent would affect acute rejection.  We didn't find

 

       that.  We find now no effect on that.  So, we start

 

       with the usual presumption that if you have

 

       something that turns up in a secondary analysis

 

       this is considered hypothesis-generating and needs

 

       to be then retested.

 

                 I can practically quote Flemming on this

 

       who says that if you have a secondary outcome that

 

       is significant or if you have a subset analysis

 

       that is significant, almost irrespective of the

 

       p value for it, if you repeat it only about a third

 

       of those are confirmed when they are then repeated
 

 

 

 

 

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       because there is an effect of regression to the

 

       mean.  You have chosen them because they were

 

       further, more deviant from the mean.

 

                 So, we start here with why we should not

 

       or should look at this as being different from the

 

       usual circumstance where the primary outcome was

 

       not recognized, was not achieved, but a very

 

       striking secondary outcome has been found either in

 

       a subset or with a secondary thing.

 

                 This really is related to Dr. Helms'

 

       comment where he says that this is sufficiently

 

       strong that it strikes you between the eyes.  That

 

       is true.  There is a strong thing here.  So, how do

 

       you evaluate this kind of a thing when it was not

 

       the primary question?

 

                 There are two ways that you look at this.

 

       First of all, does this have a credible underlying

 

       hypothesis?  Now, I would say that with respect to

 

       the hypothesis that local administration of an

 

       immunosuppressant agent might be effective in

 

       preventing chronic rejection is credible but it is

 

       certainly not something for which there is any
 

 

 

 

 

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       experimental data.  This is something that is

 

       really de novo.  It is not impossible.  It is a

 

       rather attractive hypothesis but it is not based on

 

       the same kind of data that we have for the

 

       assumption that immunosuppression would affect

 

       rejection in a broader sense.

 

                 So, that is a weakness in the hypothesis.

 

       Then the second question, and this is why I do

 

       believe that looking at the relationship between

 

       the deaths and all the other stuff is relevant--we

 

       have a circumstance where there is no question; it

 

       is absolutely clear that there were fewer deaths in

 

       the group that was treated.  That is not a matter

 

       of statistics; it is a matter of fact.  So, then we

 

       can ask ourselves is this difference in fact

 

       something that was the result of the application of

 

       the treatment or is this a fluke, if you will.

 

       This is a small study so flukes are more possible.

 

       We have the problem that I referred to before of

 

       having sort of chosen this to bring forward because

 

       it was an attractive, unexpected finding.  That is

 

       why we are here.  That is not true for Dr. Iacona. 
 

 

 

 

 

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       I don't mean to imply that he is in quite the same

 

       situation.  He put out the hypothesis that there

 

       would be a good outcome.  But we are looking at it

 

       because this is one of the unusual circumstances

 

       where you have a really striking p value in an

 

       unexpected circumstance.  So, we have to deflate

 

       the p value for that.

 

                 Then we look at the circumstances that

 

       deal with the question of whether, in fact, it is

 

       credible that this thing is affecting chronic

 

       rejection and, thereby, is preserving people's

 

       lives.  That the lives were preserved is

 

       unequivocal.  Then one question that could come up

 

       is, well, there was no difference in acute

 

       rejection and here I have to say that what I

 

       consider to be an appropriate analysis actually

 

       favors the company rather than the FDA.  There is

 

       no reason why acute rejection should be the

 

       prerequisite for chronic rejection.  As the FDA

 

       probably knows from other circumstances, I have

 

       argued in the past that what we call chronic

 

       rejection is generally a mixture of immune and
 

 

 

 

 

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       non-immune events.  Everybody has agreed upon this,

 

       and you don't ever quite know how much of this is

 

       immune and how much is non-immune.  In fact, even

 

       earlier failure, whether it is graft failure in the

 

       case of the kidney or death in the case of lung

 

       transplantation, could be the result of a process

 

       added to something, what I have called in my area

 

       which is nephrology interceptant [?] slope.  If you

 

       start lower you are going to get to your endpoint

 

       sooner than if you started higher and it has

 

       nothing to do with the rate at which chronic damage

 

       is being done.  So, there may be a difference in

 

       chronic rejection or fibrosis that has nothing to

 

       do with acute rejection.

 

                 On the other hand, what we have seen is

 

       parallelism with all of the limitations of the

 

       methods that we are using--parallelism in the

 

       outcomes in terms of the FEV1 and other things like

 

       that.  So, at the bottom what I wind up with is

 

       that this is a very promising therapy but it is not

 

       a therapy that is now established.  This is in a

 

       way very strong hypothesis generating.  So, has
 

 

 

 

 

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       this reached the status of substantial evidence

 

       from well designed and executed clinical trials, or

 

       something like that?  But I don't think we have

 

       gotten there.

 

                 I do want to say one last thing, which is

 

       the Helm's comment.  I find myself worried about

 

       the idea that we would be chased into approval

 

       because if we didn't approve nothing would ever

 

       happen again.  I think that would be a very bad

 

       precedent because then all that a company would

 

       have to do in coming to this group is to put you in

 

       the position where, if you don't approve the drug,

 

       nothing is ever going to happen.  There are lots of

 

       ways in which this drug can be studied further.  It

 

       is not this group's business to figure out what

 

       happens if we don't approve it.  The question we

 

       have to deal with is whether it has reached an

 

       approvable status or not.

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  Dr. Gay?

 

                 DR. GAY:  We have been given a challenge

 

       that our cardinal task is to consider alive or

 

       dead.  There are significant things, in my opinion,
 

 

 

 

 

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       that compromise our ability to decide this.  We

 

       cannot underestimate the potential bias that occurs

 

       with the fact that there are more patients who

 

       underwent double lung transplantation in the

 

       treatment group as opposed to the placebo group.

 

       We have different criteria for listing for double

 

       lung transplantation than we do for single lung

 

       transplantation.  The patient population is

 

       younger.  There can be potential selection bias

 

       because the wait list time tends to be longer with

 

       the double lung transplant population.  Thus, if

 

       they can get to transplant they tend to be

 

       potentially healthier at the time that they are

 

       transplanted with a lack of other potential

 

       problems and medical issues that could compromise

 

       their survivability.

 

                 I am concerned that this puts into this

 

       process a profound amount of bias, and my concern

 

       is, as optimistic as I would like to be for this to

 

       be a therapy that we should consider, that the

 

       explanation of the change in survivability can't be

 

       easily explained by that and that alone as opposed
 

 

 

 

 

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       to factors that we cannot determine with the lack

 

       of change in FEV1, the lack of change in the

 

       presence of acute rejection, and with this I do

 

       feel that a significant amount of increased

 

       investigation is going to be required to make

 

       absolutely sure that the difference we are seeing

 

       between alive and dead are secondary to the

 

       therapy.  Because once we move to approve our first

 

       therapy for lung transplantation I think we can

 

       guarantee that it will be utilized in full force

 

       and we must be cautious in doing so.

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  Dr. Proschan?

 

                 DR. PROSCHAN:  You know, this is a very

 

       difficult decision for me.  One of the things I was

 

       struck by is that really small trials go both ways.

 

       That is, in this particular trial you would think

 

       that because it is a small trial and you are seeing

 

       more placebo deaths, then those people who are

 

       dying are the sicker patients.  Therefore, the

 

       remaining patients in the placebo arm should be

 

       healthier than the ones in the cyclosporine arm.

 

       So, I would expect in a small trial, even if you
 

 

 

 

 

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       see a benefit at first, that the curves would tend

 

       to come back together because of that survival of

 

       the fittest phenomenon--you know, you have only the

 

       fittest surviving in the placebo arm and everyone

 

       surviving in the other arm.  So, I would expect

 

       them to come back together and the fact that they

 

       didn't come back together is something that I think

 

       influences me when I try to think about is it real

 

       or not.

 

                 The statement has been made that no IRB

 

       would allow another randomized trial.  Earlier than

 

       that a statement was made that if you were on the

 

       DSMB you would definitely vote to declare treatment

 

       benefit.  I think that is not true at all.  I think

 

       that a DSMB would be struggling just as we are and

 

       that it would not be a slam-dunk.  In the cardiac

 

       arrhythmia suppression trial there were 19 events

 

       in one arm and 3 in the other arm and they didn't

 

       even want to be unblinded yet.  They said whichever

 

       way it went, it is too early to tell.  So, that was

 

       19-3 and they didn't even want to become unblinded.

 

                 So, I think the idea that this is a
 

 

 

 

 

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       slam-dunk and the question has already been

 

       answered is not true.  I struggle with this and I

 

       do agree that the survival result seems to be

 

       robust to various sensitivity analyses and, you

 

       know, that makes me feel a little better.  I agree

 

       with Dr. Schoenfeld.  That does make me feel a

 

       little better.

 

                 Then the question is what degree of

 

       evidence is required.  If it is like a civil trial

 

       where you just need a preponderance of evidence

 

       there is no question in my mind that that has been

 

       shown.  If it is like a criminal trial where you

 

       need proof beyond reasonable doubt, I am not sure

 

       that that has been shown.  So, to me, it is

 

       somewhere in between those two and, you know, the

 

       question becomes how much evidence do you need.

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  Miss Drittler?

 

                 MS. DRITTLER:  I am a lung recipient and

 

       this is sort of getting away from the questions

 

       presented to the committee but what I wanted to

 

       know--the first year and a half after my transplant

 

       I went through approximately three rejections, one
 

 

 

 

 

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       very serious one.  Of course, nothing was available

 

       at that time.  After that year and a half I have

 

       not had a rejection but, as we all know, rejections

 

       can occur at any time.  If I were, say, in my

 

       fourth year to encounter this problem, would the

 

       inhaled cyclosporine be beneficial to me at that

 

       time?  Because I am assuming that these people who

 

       were in the study were put on the inhaled

 

       cyclosporine immediately after transplant and

 

       followed for the two years.  So, I want to know is

 

       it beneficial to somebody--Dr. Suss stated that she

 

       was put on it a year and a half or two years after

 

       transplant.  Is this going to be the case, that it

 

       will benefit those of us?  If I hit my five-year

 

       survival rate, which I don't believe in, will I be

 

       able to take it to prevent or stop rejection?

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  Well, I think that is a

 

       pretty hard question because it wasn't studied in

 

       that fashion.  Maybe someone from the company might

 

       just spend a minute or two, not any longer, just

 

       answering her question if you think you have

 

       something to either agree or to put a different
 

 

 

 

 

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       light on it.

 

                 DR. DILLY:  Our belief is that we are

 

       preventing or slowing the trajectory of chronic

 

       rejection so our hypothesis, which is worth testing

 

       and we have already seen the RAR data being very

 

       provocative, is that the drug would benefit

 

       patients already some way down the road from their

 

       transplant.  But that is not the basis of ACS001.

 

                 MS. DRITTLER:  Thank you.

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  Dr. Barrett?

 

                 DR. BARRETT:  I just wanted to again

 

       reiterate that this was really not designed as a

 

       registration trial.  It is a Phase II trial, not

 

       even with the benefit of a formalized statistical

 

       analysis plan prior to proceeding.  So, applying

 

       the conventional statistical criteria, as has been

 

       done by both the agency and the sponsor, makes it

 

       very difficult and I think is the cause of all our

 

       unhappiness as we sit here and see the data

 

       summarized.

 

                 Having said that, I do believe Dr.

 

       Schoenfeld's assessment of the forgiveness of the p
 

 

 

 

 

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       value given--maybe short-sighted--but the attempt

 

       to randomize patients as was done in this trial.

 

       However, I also feel the way the FDA has done their

 

       subset analysis was absolutely relevant in order to

 

       define which criteria are in fact sensitive to

 

       these results.  Because of that, it makes it very

 

       difficult.  I believe that the signal is, in fact,

 

       valid and robust but I don't know if I would feel

 

       comfortable generalizing the magnitude of this

 

       effect from this one trial in a subsequent study.

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  At this juncture I think we

 

       should go ahead and take the vote, unless there are

 

       any committee members that feel that they really

 

       need to say one more thing.

 

                 DR. VENITZ:  Yes, one more.

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  All right.

 

                 DR. VENITZ:  I am not a statistician but I

 

       am trying to use informative decision analysis to

 

       approach the problem that we are facing because I

 

       think everybody would agree it is a close call.

 

       The way I approach things like that that are a

 

       close call is that I am going to look at what is
 

 

 

 

 

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       the likelihood that we are right or wrong and what

 

       are the stakes.  In other words, I do what Helms

 

       suggested.  I am a rational gambler.  And, I think

 

       to some extent, whether we admit it or not and that

 

       includes the FDA, we are rational gamblers when we

 

       review evidence to decide what the significance is

 

       both in terms of the statistics as well as the

 

       consequences.

 

                 So, I think, like most of you, I am

 

       obviously not convinced that this is beyond any

 

       reasonable doubt for proving that the mortality

 

       benefit that was demonstrated was due to the

 

       treatment as opposed to something else that we

 

       don't know about, no matter how much we try.

 

       However, I do think that it is plausible, and I do

 

       think that it meets the civil trial standard.  It

 

       is the preponderance of the evidence; not beyond

 

       reasonable doubt but preponderance of the evidence.

 

       So, there is some 30 percent likelihood of coming

 

       up with the wrong answer, that we find a difference

 

       that really doesn't exist.

 

                 Counteracting that is the fact that it is
 

 

 

 

 

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       a large difference in terms of the mortality.  That

 

       is all I am talking about.  And, counteracting that

 

       is the fact is what is the competition that we are

 

       trying to beat right now?  There are no drugs

 

       approved.  It is a dismal disease.  Right now we

 

       have a 50 percent mortality rate with the current

 

       treatments.  Maybe there are other ones being

 

       investigated.  So, I think the stakes are high and

 

       I am willing to take a chance on the likelihood

 

       that this might be a study that doesn't prove

 

       beyond any reasonable doubt that the drug actually

 

       works.

 

                 So, in my final summary then, I would

 

       conclude, even though I have this doubt about the

 

       likelihood that this is real, the stakes, to me,

 

       favor saying that this is sufficient evidence.

 

       That is a word that is in the question here, I

 

       think there is sufficient evidence to say that the

 

       survival benefit is due to the treatment that

 

       patients might benefit from.

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  We will go ahead and begin

 

       the voting.  I will ask Miss Schell to give us your
 

 

 

 

 

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       vote.

 

                 MS. SCHELL:  I am Karen Schell and I am

 

       the consumer representative.  I would just like to

 

       add one comment before I vote.  Looking at the

 

       question on sufficient evidence, I am a practicing

 

       respiratory therapist and I also do perform FEV1

 

       pulmonary functions on a daily basis, and I think

 

       those objective measurements are very important in

 

       a study.  And, because of the limitations of this

 

       study I think the study needs to be bigger.  I

 

       think that whenever there are unanswered questions

 

       more research needs to be done.  So, I am voting as

 

       a no.

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  Dr. Sampson?

 

                 DR. SAMPSON:  It is obviously a very, very

 

       difficult decision.  I have listened to my

 

       statistical colleagues and my clinical colleagues

 

       and have wrestled with this more than I care to

 

       admit, and I think all I can conclude from this

 

       single trial is that the observed mortality

 

       difference may be due to treatment.  There is the

 

       other uncontrolled data, the ACS002, that is
 

 

 

 

 

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       supportive but it is certainly uncontrolled.

 

                 My basic problem, as has been stated by so

 

       many other people, is if it is due to treatment the

 

       question is why, and what has been demonstrated to

 

       cause the survival difference.  I don't see strong

 

       enough evidence, certainly not in acute rejection.

 

       In fact, at least by the sponsor's own analysis,

 

       acute rejection rates are higher in the  CyIS

 

       group.  And, I think there are a lot of other

 

       statistical difficulties in the analysis of the

 

       chronic rejection data, both in the definition of

 

       the endpoints and the analysis.

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  Your vote then is no.  Dr.

 

       Schoenfeld?

 

                 DR. SCHOENFELD:  I guess I will be very

 

       brief.  My vote is yes.

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  That was brief.  Dr.

 

       Proschan?

 

                 DR. PROSCHAN:  To me, what you want is

 

       compelling evidence to offset any potential harm

 

       that there might be that is hard to see based only

 

       on 100 patients on the safety data.  So, my short
 

 

 

 

 

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       answer would be no, that it is not sufficient.

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  Dr. Barrett?

 

                 DR. BARRETT:  I am going to key in on two

 

       words, "sufficient" and "survival" and because of

 

       that I am going to say yes.

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  And I will reserve mine till

 

       the end and move on to Dr. Moss.

 

                 DR. MOSS:  The thing in making the

 

       decision for me is that based on the small study

 

       the outcome of five or so patients, if they had

 

       gone the other way is going to change the standard

 

       of care for a thousand patients each year based on

 

       that outcome of just a few.  I think there is some

 

       precedent with the gamma interferon trial, with the

 

       steroid trial for ARDS of two small studies that

 

       when the companies were able to go ahead and do

 

       larger trials, it showed that those things were not

 

       true.

 

                 On the flip side, with the ventilator

 

       strategy for ARDS the paper in The New England

 

       Journal of Medicine it showed that the ventilator

 

       strategy worked and work now shows that, in fact,
 

 

 

 

 

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       it was true.  So, I think it was possibly due to

 

       the studies.  But I don't think we should change

 

       the practice based on a small study where a few

 

       patients can weight the whole outcome so I would

 

       say no.

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  Dr. Burdick?

 

                 DR. BURDICK:  I sort of approach this

 

       question in the setting of the thousand shades of

 

       grey that were dealt with by something that others

 

       have said, and that is where is the greatest harm?

 

       I think the tradeoff we have is believing the

 

       survival or believing just about everything else

 

       that would make sense about it.  I think, in my

 

       view, the greatest harm would be to not proceed

 

       with approval.  So, it is a yes.

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  Miss Drittler?

 

                 MS. DRITTLER:  Well, of course, as a

 

       patient I have to look at the survival rate and the

 

       application that it has on chronic rejection, and

 

       my vote will be yes.

 

                 DR. VENITZ:  I have said my piece.  My

 

       vote is yes.
 

 

 

 

 

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                 DR. SWENSON:  Dr. Hunsicker?

 

                 DR. HUNSICKER:  I have said my piece and

 

       my vote is no.

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  Dr. Gay?

 

                 DR. GAY:  Considering all the factors

 

       involved, understanding that this is a therapy that

 

       will be adopted across the board, understanding the

 

       limitations of the sample size and the potential

 

       for a skew on this, I must vote no.

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  Dr. Mannon?

 

                 DR. MANNON:  With due respect to the

 

       thoughtful presentations by both Chiron and the

 

       FDA, and I also empathize with the patients for

 

       coming here, as a solid organ transplanter, you

 

       know, facing life and death is a difficult issue

 

       but, be that as it may, my vote is against

 

       approval.  Again, it is because, to me, though the

 

       survival effect may seem to be a statistically and

 

       a reality-based issue, it is not clear to me what

 

       caused that and it is not clear that the drug

 

       itself was responsible, particularly when only half

 

       of the individuals on that treatment completed the
 

 

 

 

 

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       treatment.

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  Dr. Proschan?

 

                 DR. PROSCHAN:  I usually like to think of

 

       things in mechanistic terms, but in this disease we

 

       don't really understand the mechanisms enough and I

 

       think ultimately the uncertainties are much greater

 

       but ultimately it appears relatively safe.  We

 

       haven't seen evidence of toxicity.  There is a

 

       potentially huge upside so I will vote yes.

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  Dr. Tisdale?

 

                 DR. TISDALE:  Well, I am basing my

 

       decision on the fact that this was a secondary

 

       endpoint in the study, that it did come out in the

 

       original planned analysis of the study.  There was

 

       a clear survival advantage.  I am not saying that I

 

       believe that there is a connection between the drug

 

       definitively and the survival advantage but, when

 

       considering everything on balance, I am going to

 

       have to vote yes.

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  Dr. Brantly?

 

                 DR. BRANTLY:  Having been involved in

 

       treating individuals with rare diseases for the
 

 

 

 

 

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       last 20 years, I crossed this bridge about 20 years

 

       ago actually when I first started.  My vote is yes

 

       for the reason that I believe this offers probably

 

       the best promise at the present time and has

 

       sufficient data to support that.

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  My vote is no, not

 

       overwhelmingly no but for reasons that have been

 

       stated here, I don't think it is proven and I think

 

       that the issue could possibly be resolved faster

 

       than what has been stated in a smaller trial.  If

 

       this is really as strong an effect as it is, it

 

       should be borne out very quickly.  So, I don't

 

       think the evidence is yet there.

 

                 What this means is that we have a tie

 

       vote.  Dr. Albrecht, how do we proceed here with

 

       the second portion to this question?

 

                 DR. ALBRECHT:  I think next time we will

 

       invite an odd number of consultants--

 

                 [Laughter]

 

                 If I may ask you to please move to the

 

       second part of the question, I think it would be

 

       very helpful for us for those who believe the
 

 

 

 

 

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       evidence is sufficient to please address the yes

 

       part of question 1(a).  For those who feel that the

 

       data are not in, to please give us suggestions

 

       about additional studies.  So, please discuss

 

       either option yes or option no.

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  What I would ask then--and

 

       we will go through the order just as we did--is

 

       that those voting yes please answer (a) and those

 

       voting no to offer their suggestions.  So, Miss

 

       Schell?

 

                 MS. SCHELL:  I voted no and I would like

 

       to have more data concerning the donor and also

 

       post-operation, some of the other factors that

 

       would be sufficient like the FEV1 and less decline.

 

       Basically, I would like to know more about the

 

       donors' lungs before they were donated.

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  Dr. Sampson?

 

                 DR. SAMPSON:  I voted no and, as I started

 

       to say before, I think there is a struggle and I

 

       think there are certainly very strong arguments as

 

       to why CyIS would work.  But to do another two-year

 

       treatment study with a survival endpoint and
 

 

 

 

 

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       reasonable follow-up would be a lengthy

 

       undertaking.  I would encourage the agency and the

 

       sponsor to work together to design a prospective,

 

       randomized, blinded trial but with a more

 

       innovative design.  I don't know if that means

 

       doing something like low dose versus high dose to

 

       increase enrollment, as has been suggested, or

 

       introducing a reasonable surrogate endpoint for

 

       survival that could be measured earlier than

 

       waiting for it two or three years post treatment.

 

                 I have heard arguments pro and con why

 

       FEV1 might be such a surrogate.  I think it is

 

       really critical to identify and agree upon

 

       important baseline variables, and perhaps even

 

       employ some sort of stochastic, dynamic balanced

 

       randomization scheme that would try to keep all

 

       these variables between treatment groups reasonably

 

       comparable and maintain the blinding so that we

 

       would not have a discussion like this again.

 

                 As is usual in regulatory studies, the

 

       study protocol and the SCP should spell out the

 

       objectives very clearly; the primary variables for
 

 

 

 

 

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       analyzing these; and the primary analytical methods

 

       for the primary variables.  I also think that this

 

       is the kind of study, given the kind of difference

 

       that we have seen up to now, that would benefit

 

       from some sort of sequential design which would

 

       allow for an early stopping if, in fact, the

 

       differences persist of the magnitude that we are

 

       seeing so that a quick decision could be reached.

 

                 DR. SCHOENFELD:  I won't be as brief this

 

       time.  I am going to look--

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  I should say that is Dr.

 

       Schoenfeld.  We need to keep that for the record.

 

                 DR. SCHOENFELD:  I am sorry.  I think that

 

       in regards to 1(a) it is sort of a difficult

 

       situation because this study would indicate that

 

       the biggest difference created by this treatment

 

       was survival.  I mean, this would be the thing you

 

       would want to look at as the thing that would be

 

       the most likely endpoint to show a difference in a

 

       subsequent trial.  As I have said before, even

 

       analyzing any of these other endpoints that would

 

       give you a good idea of the mechanism is very
 

 

 

 

 

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       difficult in the face of a big survival difference.

 

       This was the big difference, by the way, in the

 

       ARDS.  We still don't know why 6 mg/kg works.

 

       Because, in fact, all the oxygenation parameters

 

       and all the various parameters don't really show a

 

       difference between 6 mg/kg and 12 mg/kg--I am

 

       referring to the study of low versus high pressure

 

       ventilation for ARDS.  None of those mechanistic

 

       things work because you can't really compare them

 

       because of the difference in mortality.

 

                 So, I think that this leaves a big problem

 

       for someone coming to a future trial because their

 

       best shot is mortality and the other things are

 

       going to be probably fuzzy, like they are now.  I

 

       think that is something to realize.  So, the big

 

       advantage they will get in doing another trial is

 

       that mortality won't be a secondary endpoint and

 

       there will be now two trials, and maybe a

 

       multicenter trial so they will get some of these

 

       other things dealt with.

 

                 So, I think that in terms of 1(b) you end

 

       up having to repeat the trial and it would sound
 

 

 

 

 

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       very funny if you then argued--you know, you

 

       wouldn't have any of those secondary endpoint

 

       arguments at that point.

 

                 I don't know how you could balance it

 

       because I am sure that, no matter how carefully you

 

       stratified the trial, if people were really trying

 

       to knock it down by finding different covariates

 

       you could find some.  So, I don't think there is

 

       any way of perfectly balancing a trial.  So, it

 

       would be a confirmatory trial and that is probably

 

       what should be done if you want to go forward.

 

                 Now, in terms of 1(a), this is always a

 

       problem, how to generalize clinical trials either

 

       from one institution or from--so I just answered

 

       1(b) and I guess the answer to that is you are

 

       going to have to do another survival trial, bigger

 

       and multicenter.

 

                 In terms of generalizability, that is

 

       always a problem in clinical trials, generalizing

 

       from the few patients you treated to the patients

 

       you didn't treat.  This trial randomized about five

 

       percent of the patients in the United States that
 

 

 

 

 

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       have this disease.  That is, you randomized about

 

       five percent of the people which is much better

 

       than we did in ARDS network.  So, I don't know how

 

       you can answer these questions.  Nobody knows

 

       whether you can generalize.  Usually what you end

 

       up doing with clinical trials is you close your

 

       eyes and you generalize.

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  Dr. Proschan?

 

                 DR. PROSCHAN:  For what additional

 

       information would be needed, to me, I think you do

 

       have to do another randomized trial.  I don't think

 

       you can get away with a single-arm trial where

 

       mortality is the primary outcome.  And, I don't

 

       agree with a comment made earlier that it could be

 

       much smaller.  I think that is an invitation for

 

       disaster again because then you could get a p value

 

       that is 0.10 or something and you might also get

 

       the baseline imbalances.  So, I do think it has to

 

       be a larger trial, perhaps multicenter.

 

                 I am not as concerned about the issue of

 

       generalizability.  To me, the issue of

 

       generalizability is, you know, University of
 

 

 

 

 

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       Pittsburgh does a lot of these and maybe they have

 

       learned something about how to deliver this

 

       aerosolized cyclosporine and maybe other centers

 

       that are just starting might not know that.  So, to

 

       me, that is the issue of generalizability.  Is

 

       there anything special that Pittsburgh learned and

 

       other centers that try to do this might learn the

 

       hard way?  So, to me, you have to do another trial

 

       where survival is the primary outcome, a randomized

 

       trial.

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  Dr. Barrett?

 

                 DR. BARRETT:  I voted yes.  However, as I

 

       mentioned before, I think there is very little that

 

       you can generalize from the previous study, and for

 

       all of the analyses that the FDA showed there are

 

       several factors which make the existing data,

 

       primarily due to the small sample size, very

 

       suspect.

 

                 One of the most important things I thought

 

       was the idea that the acute rejection doesn't

 

       necessarily correlate with the chronic rejection.

 

       And, one of the things that I am more suspicious of
 

 

 

 

 

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       is the maintenance of the survival benefit in the

 

       face of limited dosing and/or exposure.  It simply

 

       may be that we don't understand how to dose that

 

       particular facet of rejection progression.  It is

 

       an interesting finding.  I don't know if I would

 

       walk back into the quicksand and do another

 

       survival study though.  I think there are better

 

       studies to do now with the idea of really figuring

 

       out how to dose this agent.

 

                 I think there was a rationale for inhaled

 

       cyclosporine at the very beginning that prompted

 

       this trial, which I think is probably still there.

 

       There is, for sure, a regional delivery advantage,

 

       however, it is probably not maintained by

 

       conventional pharmacokinetic behavior so we simply

 

       don't understand what is the local exposure

 

       requirement in order to maximize the benefit of

 

       this route of administration.

 

                 So, as far as studies go, I think a

 

       combination of preclinical models as well as

 

       different dosing scenarios where you consider low

 

       and prophylactic regimens to be more beneficial.
 

 

 

 

 

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                 DR. SWENSON:  I voted no, and I have

 

       mentioned my thoughts here.  I think another trial,

 

       maybe two to three times larger than this one that

 

       might incorporate several centers and, of course, I

 

       think with the problems that develop in the design

 

       and then ultimately coming here could be corrected

 

       from the start.  That is, we would have all the

 

       preliminary data.  There would be no question about

 

       loss of data in a prospective study.  I think

 

       another study of that magnitude would be what would

 

       be necessary, and possibly a stopping point could

 

       be agreed upon early.  If, in fact, this major

 

       survival advantage persists the study could be

 

       concluded earlier on the basis of that, given what

 

       we have seen with this study.  Dr. Moss?

 

                 DR. MOSS:  I really don't have a lot to

 

       add to what Erik just said.  I think that the

 

       results need to be confirmed in a larger

 

       multicenter study where the study is performed more

 

       rigorously and, of course, add some longer-term

 

       outcomes that won't preclude people from voting yes

 

       to approve the drug, but that that would be kept in
 

 

 

 

 

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       mind in terms of carcinogenic possibilities.

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  Dr. Burdick?

 

                 DR. BURDICK:  The big issue in

 

       generalizability is what was observed before, that

 

       about two-thirds of the patients in this trial

 

       weren't on up-to-date immunosuppression.  So, for

 

       all programs, including Pittsburgh, I think that is

 

       a question that remains in terms of using this

 

       regimen today.

 

                 I think the other major issue is that if

 

       this is effective, if the results of this trial

 

       haven't misled us due to happenstance, or whatever,

 

       then there needs to be some inventive thought about

 

       how to look at it with things other than biopsy,

 

       FEV1 and other things which have not correlated

 

       with the outcome.

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  Miss Drittler?

 

                 MS. DRITTLER:  Again from a patient

 

       viewpoint, I feel that what I am reading in the

 

       data with the survival rate, the safety problems

 

       don't seem to exist.  I just think that having been

 

       very sick for ten years, hoping something would
 

 

 

 

 

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       come along as many patients are doing, grasping at

 

       straws actually, this seems to be something that

 

       could be very profitable to the lung transplant

 

       population.  And, I just feel that it is an

 

       important thing at this particular moment not to

 

       preclude necessarily further studies.  I think that

 

       could be necessary but in the meantime there will

 

       be patients dying who might profit from this.

 

       Thank you.

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  Dr. Venitz?

 

                 DR. VENITZ:  Obviously, I voted yes so I

 

       am down to "yes-(a)" I guess.  Confirm efficacy;

 

       establish mechanism of action; expand safety; and

 

       optimize the dose.  Those would be the outstanding

 

       issues in spite of the fact that I did vote yes.

 

       Confirm efficacy in a larger, more heterogeneous

 

       population.  I think mortality is definitely going

 

       to continue to be an outcome that is of interest

 

       because you have to come up with labeling language

 

       that reflects whatever the committee recommendation

 

       is and the FDA final judgment on this is going to

 

       be, but I think also an assessment of mechanism of
 

 

 

 

 

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       action would look at FEV1's.  It would look at the

 

       relationship between some of the markers of disease

 

       progression relative to survival to understand what

 

       actually happened in this study.  Expanding safety,

 

       I think that is question number two, is to look at

 

       long-term safety five-year safety data.  It was

 

       already mentioned that there is a concern about the

 

       incidence of cancer as a result of chronic

 

       immunosuppression even though you would think, due

 

       to the low systemic exposures, that is minimized

 

       but, nevertheless, you would like to have some

 

       empiric data.

 

                 Lastly, I don't think the dose--and I

 

       agree with Dr. Barrett on that, I don't think this

 

       is the optimal dose, as it usually is not.  I would

 

       like to believe that it is a safe and effective

 

       dose but I don't think it is an optimal dose.  So,

 

       I think in addition to efficacy, safety and

 

       mechanism of action, additional dose optimization

 

       studies are appropriate.  In particular, what I

 

       would be interested in would be the dosing

 

       interval.  Right now I don't know whether the drug
 

 

 

 

 

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       has to be given three times a week.  It could well

 

       be that you could give it once a month.  It could

 

       well be that you don't have to give 300 mg and

 

       expose patients to the hassle and the inconvenience

 

       of being bronchodilated, getting lidocaine and then

 

       sitting in front of a nebulizer for ten minutes.

 

       So, I think there are some dosing questions that

 

       should be addressed in clinical as well as possibly

 

       some of the preclinical studies as well.

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  Dr. Hunsicker?

 

                 DR. HUNSICKER:  I was a no voter.  One of

 

       the committee members down the line there, whose

 

       name I can't see, suggested that we should not

 

       exclude the possibility of preclinical studies.  I

 

       am, for one, not absolutely sure that we have an

 

       established mechanism that we are working towards.

 

       It may be that it is obvious to some that locally

 

       administered immunosuppression should work.  It is

 

       not so obvious to me.  So, I would not forget the

 

       possibility of doing preclinical studies that are

 

       really properly designed to see whether topical

 

       administration of this in the lung transplant
 

 

 

 

 

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       setting--which you can do and it is really unique

 

       in the lung transplantation that you can do

 

       this--is effective in preventing chronic rejection.

 

       I think this is a very interesting question and

 

       that shouldn't be forgotten.

 

                 With respect to the clinical trial, it

 

       seems to me very straightforward, as has already

 

       been said, that the next trial should have

 

       mortality as its major endpoint.  That is where we

 

       are, and if the next trial shows an advantage in

 

       mortality it doesn't make any difference what else

 

       is shown.  That confirms it.  At this point, this

 

       is now starting from "we think that this might

 

       work" and that would just nail it down.  But I

 

       would hope that that trial would have defined in

 

       advance very well how to at least look at the

 

       issues of fibrosis and function, these being the

 

       two major things that are involved in chronic

 

       rejection of lung, as well as the other organs.

 

       So, I think of things like the endobronchial biopsy

 

       that was being discussed--some knowledge of what is

 

       actually happening to the lining of the bronchi
 

 

 

 

 

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       which is where the fibrosis is going on would be

 

       very helpful in eventually being able to analyze

 

       this.

 

                 Finally, with respect to the study size, I

 

       would just caution you that virtually always when

 

       you have a striking effect like this the next time

 

       you look at it the effect is much smaller.  So, do

 

       not assume that you are going to get this size of

 

       effect the next go around even if this is a real

 

       thing.  You have to power the next trial

 

       sufficiently to be able to detect a difference that

 

       would be convincing to you and important to you

 

       irrespective of it is the size that we see in this

 

       trial.  So, I think it is going to wind up being a

 

       fairly large trial.

 

                 Then you get into the issues of can you

 

       ameliorate the ethical quandaries by having a

 

       different randomization scheme, 2:1 rather than 1:1

 

       and things like that.  These are well within

 

       Chiron's and Pittsburgh's ability to figure out and

 

       I don't think it is going to help us any for me to

 

       go on about it.  So, basically, it needs a new
 

 

 

 

 

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       clinical trial and I would love to see some basic

 

       studies.

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  Dr. Gay?

 

                 DR. GAY:  I voted no because of the

 

       problematic nature of attempting to define

 

       mortality in the transplant population and the

 

       causes for mortality.  Unlike the oncology studies

 

       where mortality usually results from progression of

 

       the primary malignancy, with factors related to

 

       both rejection and infection and side effects from

 

       the immunosuppression, I believe mortality becomes

 

       very hard to power for.  Where a significant impact

 

       may be present is the fact that we have no therapy

 

       whatsoever that intervenes on chronic rejection,

 

       and if we can have a proven theory that affects

 

       BOS-free interval, if we can show that you can go

 

       longer without developing BOS with a therapy as

 

       opposed to without it, I think you will find a

 

       therapy that will have significant positive benefit

 

       and a reasonably easy course for possible approval.

 

       So, I would attempt to put together a randomized,

 

       controlled trial that would deal as the primary
 

 

 

 

 

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       endpoint with BOS-free interval in enrolling a

 

       patient population post-transplant.

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  Dr. Mannon?

 

                 DR. MANNON:  Again, I was a no vote.  To

 

       reiterate, I think a proper prospective collection

 

       of data, so a randomized trial, and also with

 

       balance of the two critical components, that is

 

       double versus single and acute rejection rates.  I

 

       think that is a big sticking point for me in the

 

       analysis of the initial data.

 

                 I also think it would be important to have

 

       a spelled out standardization of immunosuppressive

 

       strategies whether it is one center or multicenter,

 

       as well as standardized strategies for patients

 

       with acute rejection so that all patients are

 

       receiving similar therapies.  Then, if they fail

 

       those therapies there are appropriate outcomes.

 

                 Obviously, a formal safety data monitoring

 

       board, with an appropriate stop point, the endpoint

 

       being survival.  But I also think, as Dr. Hunsicker

 

       pointed out, an opportunity to collect mechanistic

 

       data as additional information, including
 

 

 

 

 

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       standardized time points for FEV1 and bronchoscopy,

 

       but also maybe localized as well as systemic

 

       measurements of allo-immunity because you have a

 

       small group on specific therapy and that may

 

       actually shed some light even if the study is not

 

       huge.

 

                 Finally, I think we need some long-term

 

       safety data.  There was a discussion of potential

 

       malignancy from this drug, but cyclosporine also

 

       stimulates TGF-beta and whether this local effect

 

       may in the long term actually promote fibrosis

 

       indirectly, which we don't know, is something else

 

       that I think needs to be answered.

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  Dr. Prussin?

 

                 DR. PRUSSIN:  Most of my comments have

 

       already been addressed.  In terms of

 

       generalizability of the study, I think the

 

       population that is being looked at could be more

 

       ethnically diverse than the small study in

 

       Pittsburgh, and that probably would be addressed if

 

       it is a multicenter study.

 

                 Also, the whole issue of an inhaled
 

 

 

 

 

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       formulation in terms of SOPs for nebulization.  I

 

       gather that inhaled lidocaine is not approved so

 

       that whole usage and how that is delivered should

 

       certainly be standardized.

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  Dr. Tisdale?

 

                 DR. TISDALE:  I was a yes but, as I said

 

       the first time around, my decision was based mostly

 

       on a risk-benefit assessment.  Here the risk seems

 

       to be extraordinarily low and the benefit is

 

       possibly extraordinarily high.  So, that weighed

 

       me.  I sat right on the fence the whole way around

 

       the table until it came to me, and the whole

 

       morning as well.

 

                 But when it comes to the question of

 

       generalizability, that is the yes-man's question.

 

       Certainly the control group correlated well with

 

       the experience that is out there, the broad

 

       experience for transplant.  This represented a very

 

       sizeable fraction of the transplant patients over

 

       that period of time.  So, any new therapy that is

 

       tried, for example in bone marrow transplant, is

 

       always a very small fraction.  A hundred things are
 

 

 

 

 

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       different about each protocol so in this I was

 

       actually encouraged by the fact that there was a

 

       big percentage of patients that were studied and

 

       that the control group looked just like the broad

 

       experience of transplant patients.  So, I felt like

 

       there was at least some generalizability of this

 

       information.

 

                 We have had a lot of people bring up the

 

       issue of the collection of the data being

 

       problematic in this study and, certainly, the study

 

       wasn't designed as a pivotal study for FDA approval

 

       of this drug so there are a lot of problems with

 

       the collection of the data but the endpoint that we

 

       are looking at, which is survival, was a secondary

 

       endpoint and this is not a subtle endpoint.  I

 

       mean, you are alive or you are dead so that is

 

       simple to look at.  And, whether you look at it a

 

       week after the study closed, a year after the study

 

       closed, there is no arguing about whether or not

 

       there is a survival advantage.  So, to design

 

       another randomized study with a survival endpoint

 

       is the study that we already have.  It was a
 

 

 

 

 

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       randomized study with a survival endpoint, and the

 

       survival endpoint was statistically significant.

 

                 So, you know, what is necessary for me to

 

       move it on--you know, not everyone is going to

 

       adopt this.  People will look at the study when it

 

       comes out and realize that there are problems with

 

       the study and not everyone is going to do it.

 

       Certainly, it requires further validation in

 

       another study I think which doesn't necessarily

 

       need to be, in my mind, a randomized, controlled

 

       trial.  There are many different ways to get at the

 

       questions that still remain beyond the survival,

 

       and the survival can be compared, I think, to the

 

       existing survival data because we have heard over

 

       and over again that this survival curve has not

 

       changed in more than a decade.

 

                 So, I certainly feel comfortable with

 

       comparing whatever is seen in a subsequent trial to

 

       the existing 50 percent survival rate.  I don't

 

       think that is likely to change in a big way, and if

 

       the next study is a negative study everybody is not

 

       going to be giving inhaled cyclosporine.  It is a
 

 

 

 

 

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       pain for the patients; it is a pain for the

 

       placebos.  They have all demonstrated that it is

 

       not something that people are going to wildly run

 

       to without further information.  So, I think a

 

       subsequent trial that is not randomized is

 

       certainly sufficient to get at the questions that

 

       weren't addressed in the original randomized,

 

       controlled trial.

 

                 So I agree that the things that need to be

 

       addressed next is that we need a study that

 

       confirms the efficacy on survival.  That is easy

 

       enough to do in a study that is not randomized.  We

 

       need to better establish the safety.  That is easy

 

       to do in a study that is not randomized.  And then

 

       optimize dosing, which I think would be very

 

       difficult to do in another randomized, controlled

 

       trial.  So, those are what I would see as the ways

 

       to move forward on whether or not this is actually

 

       generalizable.

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  Dr. Brantly?

 

                 DR. BRANTLY:  I was a yes voter, and I

 

       think that, number one, my greatest concern with
 

 

 

 

 

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       the study was the fact that there was an imbalance

 

       in the double lung/single lung transplants and that

 

       that plays strongly into survival benefit.

 

                 As far as generalizability, I have

 

       questions about how generalizable these studies

 

       are, and I believe that that should be expanded in

 

       a good controlled study in the future.  I would

 

       recommend basically having four arms, which would

 

       be double lung, single lung, a low dose versus the

 

       standard dose, which would answer some of the

 

       questions regarding both the ethics since we really

 

       don't know what the dose is in this particular

 

       study group.  I think it would be acceptable to the

 

       patients and probably get to the answer about

 

       survival.

 

                 DR. SCHOENFELD:  I just want to say

 

       something because this keeps coming up as double

 

       lung and single lung.  I think that the

 

       stratification by double lung and single lung as

 

       was done in the analysis pretty much shows that the

 

       benefit occurred in both groups, and when you

 

       control for single and double lung the relative
 

 

 

 

 

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       risk stays exactly the same and the estimates stay

 

       the same.  So, to consider that as a major problem

 

       with the study I think is not borne out by the

 

       data.  I think that the FDA would even agree with

 

       that, that that isn't the primary problem with this

 

       data.  Their stratified analysis on that simple

 

       stratification was still highly significant.  If

 

       that was the problem, it would just go away, the

 

       significance.

 

                 DR. ZALKIKAR:  The model that included

 

       just the single versus double lung, yes, the data

 

       was significant, just that one factor at a time.

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  Dr. Albrecht, hopefully, we

 

       have satisfied your charge here on this question.

 

       It looks like it is a split and I don't think the

 

       yes/no are really that far apart.  We all have

 

       concerns and we all have, obviously, great hopes

 

       for something like this to work and hope that a

 

       speedy answer could be obtained.  Shall we move on

 

       to our second question?

 

                 DR. ALBRECHT:  Yes, please, and I think I

 

       will elaborate a little bit on it to see if I can
 

 

 

 

 

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       probe for some more comments and advice.  The

 

       second question is fundamentally focused on safety,

 

       specifically, has the safety of the product been

 

       adequately characterized for its intended use?

 

                 I know we have heard some of these

 

       comments already during the past discussions, but

 

       in these deliberations please consider both the

 

       amount of preclinical information and the clinical

 

       information that is available on the administration

 

       of cyclosporine, as well as the vehicle, through

 

       this route, and the number of patients that have

 

       been exposed to the inhaled cyclosporine in this

 

       application at the proposed recommended dose.

 

                 Here is where I would like to just

 

       elaborate a little bit more, if I can, which is if

 

       you answer yes to this, and especially this in

 

       addition to question one, here is where I would

 

       really like a lot of comments from you, if

 

       possible, about what you would envision in the

 

       labeling, I think both the positive as well as what

 

       kind of cautionary or negative language you might

 

       include.  So, specifically for what population
 

 

 

 

 

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       would you suggest, if you are advising that the

 

       product be approved, that it be labeled for what

 

       patients perhaps should receive the product and

 

       where the data may in fact be limited or absent as

 

       far as patients that perhaps shouldn't at this

 

       point be advised or recommended to receive the

 

       product.

 

                 Also, it would be very beneficial if you

 

       could comment on the dosing regimen, the

 

       preparation, the administration route, the dosing

 

       intervals and the duration, again basing this on

 

       the information that we have in the application.

 

       How comfortable would you be summarizing the

 

       information in labeling and, again, what kind of

 

       cautionary information do you believe or would you

 

       recommend that we consider putting in the labeling

 

       regarding what isn't known about the product.

 

                 Also, if you could, because I think as we

 

       have heard and has been stated, the difference in

 

       mortality that has been presented is fairly

 

       dramatic and, at the same time, there are not

 

       differences in some of the other endpoints like
 

 

 

 

 

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       acute rejection, BOS, FEV1--how much of this

 

       information would be valuable in labeling; how much

 

       of the information might not be ready for labeling

 

       based on the comments you made about need for

 

       corroborative data, and so forth.

 

                 So, I would like to hear as much

 

       discussion as you can give to the "yes" part of the

 

       question.  I notice that we were getting

 

       recommendations both on "yes" and "no" so on the

 

       "no" side it would be really useful--and I know we

 

       heard a lot of comments about traditional studies,

 

       both efficacy and safety and dosing and

 

       preclinical, but if you could just elaborate in any

 

       way that you can specifically on study designs.  We

 

       heard some suggestions for randomized, some

 

       non-randomized, but if you could perhaps give some

 

       further details about study designs that may be

 

       coming to mind as you go around the table.

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  Well, we could do it in the

 

       same fashion as before, a vote, but maybe as much

 

       as we have talked already, if the committee would

 

       be willing just to go ahead and take both in turn
 

 

 

 

 

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       individually.  Do I have any strong dissent for

 

       that?  Just for fairness, we will start on the

 

       other direction and I will ask Dr. Brantly to start

 

       off.

 

                 DR. BRANTLY:  Well, if yes, I would argue

 

       based on the study I read--I would say the

 

       population is lung transplant.  I would make it no

 

       more specific than that.

 

                 As far as the dosing regime and dosing

 

       intervals, I think they have to stick closely to

 

       what was done in the original trial.  At the

 

       present time we have no other information.

 

                 Regarding 2(c), I believe that this can

 

       only be labeled as having a survival benefit.

 

       There is no evidence to suggest that the other

 

       things were changed by this drug.

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  Dr. Tisdale?

 

                 DR. TISDALE:  I think I would have to echo

 

       almost identical statements.  If yes, only for

 

       prolongation in survival in recipients of single

 

       and double lung transplants.

 

                 The same dosing regimen should be listed
 

 

 

 

 

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       in the labeling even though it wasn't completely

 

       followed by all the patients.

 

                 There should be I think no expected

 

       benefit with respect to the other endpoints since

 

       they weren't shown definitively to be altered by

 

       the cyclosporine inhalation.

 

                 I think there also should be caution that

 

       there is no safety data regarding carcinogenesis

 

       effect on lung scarring or that sort of thing.  So,

 

       I think there should be caution that there is

 

       incomplete data on carcinogenesis in laboratory

 

       animals and in humans, and that it is too early to

 

       know in the recipients that have been treated with

 

       this regimen whether that is a concern.

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  Dr. Prussin?

 

                 DR. PRUSSIN:  Along the same lines I

 

       guess, you could put for the dosing 300 mg three

 

       times a week as tolerated.  In terms of duration,

 

       obviously the study was for two years and so you

 

       would put in some caveat that use of this has not

 

       been shown to be of value beyond the two-year

 

       point.
 

 

 

 

 

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                 There is the whole quandary of the

 

       lidocaine use and how do you put that into the

 

       labeling since that is an integral part of the drug

 

       but is not an approved drug itself.  I think, other

 

       than that, that is the only unique thing.

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  I should step in here and

 

       say that another party has entered this position

 

       about lidocaine and I am not sure that 100 percent

 

       of patients had to have lidocaine as pretreatment.

 

       It was a large fraction.  Could the company just

 

       comment on that?  Did everyone get lidocaine as

 

       part of this or was it only as needed?

 

                 DR. NOONBERG:  It is my understanding that

 

       most, if not all, patients were initiated on

 

       inhaled lidocaine without butyryl.  However, how

 

       long they continued with it was variable.  We don't

 

       have exact information on duration but certainly it

 

       wasn't uniformly continued.

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  So, this probably should

 

       just be a point for further discussion and

 

       decisions about how lidocaine might fit in this and

 

       whether it needs its own labeling.  Dr. Prussin?
 

 

 

 

 

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                 DR. PRUSSIN:  Obviously, these people have

 

       been followed closely but, because this has been

 

       used in such small numbers of patients, something

 

       about follow-up and close follow-up and long-term

 

       safety has not been established.

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  Dr. Mannon?

 

                 DR. MANNON:  From the perspective of

 

       long-term safety, we do now have a patient

 

       population that is available that has been on the

 

       therapy for a number of years, and perhaps we will

 

       be able to incorporate them insofar as giving us

 

       some of the more long-term data rather than relying

 

       on a dog model or a rodent model where the dosing

 

       is different.  You know, the opportunity to keep

 

       dogs around for five years may not be feasible.

 

                 I am not really sure how to address the

 

       tolerability of dosing.  It wasn't clear to me what

 

       was the cut-off.  Were patients having either

 

       sufficient bronchoconstriction that they had to

 

       stop, or coughing or wheezing, whatever?  But I

 

       think that we need to have a better understanding

 

       of the tolerability of dosing and what is
 

 

 

 

 

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       appropriate pre-medication.  As we alluded to, it

 

       is not clear to me what the dose escalation

 

       guidelines are.  It sounds as if you got 100 mg and

 

       you tolerated it, then you went to 200 and by 10

 

       days you got 300.  But I think that those

 

       guidelines need to be defined and it is not clear

 

       to me whether there was additional intolerability

 

       or bronchospasm or cough or wheezing due to a

 

       higher dose, or whether it was the vehicle itself.

 

                 It would be helpful I think to know what

 

       the tissue levels are.  We have DTPA and

 

       scintigraphy that suggest that there are very good

 

       levels but it would be nice to know what the actual

 

       levels are because I am not really sure how you

 

       dose the drug.  We are talking about can we get

 

       away with one time a month.  I mean, I think we

 

       need to know what the level of the drug is and get

 

       a sense of the outcome of the drug.  Since

 

       obviously systemic levels appear to be lower by

 

       inhalation, I am not exactly sure how to do that.

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  Dr. Mannon, could you

 

       clarify which patient population?
 

 

 

 

 

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                 DR. MANNON:  It would be lung transplant

 

       recipients.  You know, how would you label it?

 

       Preventing death?  I mean, I think that would be

 

       really the only thing that you could honestly put

 

       in the label.  Clearly there was no prevention of

 

       rejection.  There clearly was no prevention, based

 

       on the data presented, of BOS, and there may have

 

       been an effect on OB but it is not clear to me that

 

       it was that, or whether you can say these are the

 

       limitations of this on the label.

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  Dr. Gay?

 

                 DR. GAY:  Most of my comments actually

 

       echo Dr. Mannon's.  I think short-term safety seems

 

       to be reasonable.  I have concerns about long-term

 

       safety issues, and with the fact that this will be

 

       a long-term drug I think that needs to be studied

 

       more fully and evaluated more fully.

 

                 It would have to be labeled for lung

 

       transplant patients and at this point, yes, clearly

 

       for improving survival.  But with future studies it

 

       will probably be more for prevention of chronic

 

       rejection.
 

 

 

 

 

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                 Dosing regimens have to be standardized at

 

       some point.  With the concern that half the

 

       patients did not receive really long-term therapy,

 

       greater than 24 doses, that has to be looked at

 

       more closely with potential long-term risk of

 

       therapy associated with the disorder.

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  Dr. Hunsicker?

 

                 DR. HUNSICKER:  First, the question put to

 

       us is, is the agent safe?  I just have to comment

 

       that if the survival benefit is real the drug is

 

       safe with reference to its benefit.  But if the

 

       survival benefit is not real, then we have

 

       substantial issues, or if the benefit is much

 

       smaller than it seems we have substantial issues

 

       with local tolerability because, as has already

 

       been commented, it is striking that half the

 

       patients couldn't tolerate it for the long term.

 

       With respect to what should be done further--

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  Let's get your vote.  Yes or

 

       no on that?

 

                 DR. HUNSICKER:  I would vote, since I

 

       voted no on the first, that I don't think that it
 

 

 

 

 

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       is shown to be safe relative to its known efficacy.

 

       If the efficacy is repeated and is there, then

 

       obviously it is safe because being alive is better

 

       than being dead.

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  And this is a no vote?

 

                 DR. HUNSICKER:  It is a no vote for the

 

       question or whether that issue has been answered.

 

       With respect to what more should be done, first of

 

       all, I think that there does need to be some more

 

       animal data specifically with respect to the lung

 

       toxicity of cyclosporine, and it is striking that

 

       there is no really long-term animal data on the

 

       tolerability of cyclosporine.  That should be easy

 

       to be done.  It isn't a definitive thing but it

 

       certainly is something that should be done along

 

       the way.

 

                 I am one who believes that things like

 

       cancer can really only be answered in postmarketing

 

       surveillance.  I think it has to be done as part of

 

       postmarketing surveillance, along with all sorts of

 

       other bad things but I don't think there is any way

 

       that kind of question can be answered prior to its
 

 

 

 

 

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       approval.

 

                 With respect to question one, for which

 

       population, I agree with everybody that it should

 

       be lung transplants.

 

                 What information should be included on

 

       dosing, we have only had one dosing regimen and,

 

       therefore, I think we can only talk about one

 

       dosing regimen.

 

                 I do think that for duration we should say

 

       that this has only been shown to be useful up to

 

       two years.  I think we can add on that there is no

 

       reason why the sponsor could not give us evidence

 

       about tolerability after two years.  But right now

 

       what we have is data on tolerability, which seems

 

       to be actually sort of marginal, up to two years

 

       with half the patients going off of it at that

 

       time.

 

                 What information should be included on the

 

       labeling, I have sympathy with those who say the

 

       only thing you should say is that it prolongs life,

 

       however, it seems to me that to say that it

 

       prolongs life but we don't have any information
 

 

 

 

 

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       about what it does to chronic rejection or acute

 

       rejection is a little naive.  I don't see how we

 

       can say that and not sound silly.  So, if the

 

       agency is going to approve it, we should say that

 

       the outcome is that it prolongs life presumably due

 

       to suppression of chronic rejection.  I think that

 

       would be the way I would phrase it.  And, I think

 

       that you need to have an explicit statement in

 

       there that there is no evidence that it affects

 

       acute rejection because I am afraid that some

 

       people will think that this is something you should

 

       use for acute rejection, and if there is anything

 

       we do know is that it does not seem to affect acute

 

       rejection.

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  Dr. Venitz?

 

                 DR. VENITZ:  Again, I am a yes-man so I

 

       would vote in favor of safety having been

 

       demonstrated.  I agree that the population would be

 

       the population of lung transplant patients at

 

       large.  I don't think there is any evidence for

 

       subpopulations at a particular risk but, hopefully,

 

       that is a question that can be addressed in the
 

 

 

 

 

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       follow-up study that we alluded to.

 

                 As far as the dosing regimen is concerned,

 

       I think the dosing regimen that should be labeled

 

       should be the dosing regimen that was used, and

 

       that does include the initial escalating dose study

 

       to get patients up to 300 mg before they then start

 

       their three times weekly maintenance dose.

 

                 Something that I found interesting is that

 

       one of the patients during the open session

 

       mentioned that, because of seizures, he was put on

 

       phenytoin and he developed a rejection.  Obviously,

 

       phenytoin is a known enzyme inducer which increases

 

       the clearance of drugs such as cyclosporine and

 

       lowers their systemic levels.  So, as far as drug

 

       interactions are concerned, I do think that you

 

       have to stick with the current cyclosporine label

 

       for oral use even though we think the systemic

 

       experiences are low and unlikely to contribute to

 

       this effect.

 

                 I also have some concerns about the fact

 

       that at least the studies that we looked at were

 

       done with the same nebulizer.  So, I think you are
 

 

 

 

 

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       looking at a fixed drug-device combination here.  I

 

       don't think we can extrapolate that beyond any

 

       other devices since I have no clue what the aerosol

 

       dynamics--the mean diameter for example--might be

 

       in a different device.  So, I think the device is

 

       pretty much locked in, and you have already heard

 

       some of the comments about the lidocaine briefly.

 

                 As far as 2(c) is concerned, I agree with

 

       my neighbor to the left.  I believe they have

 

       demonstrated survival benefit.  They have

 

       demonstrated no benefit on acute rejection and,

 

       therefore, maybe a benefit on OB.

 

                 A couple of additional comments, being a

 

       kineticist by training, I guess I miss some

 

       exposure measures in the preclinical studies that

 

       allow me to compare--and I am talking about

 

       pulmonary exposures, not drug levels or PG

 

       levels--some of those studies in the lung so I can

 

       make some extrapolations as to what that might be

 

       in humans.  Is there any way that we can use some

 

       of those biopsies from lung to actually measure

 

       drug levels and to ascertain in humans what the
 

 

 

 

 

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       relative ratios of systemic exposure over topical

 

       exposure are?

 

                 On the last question that Dr. Albrecht

 

       wanted us to address about the study design, again

 

       given the fact that I am a yes-man on both

 

       questions, I don't see any reason why the follow-up

 

       clinical trial could not be an open-label trial.  I

 

       happen to be a member on an IRB and I would think

 

       that most of my committee members, probably as a

 

       consensus, would not approve a randomized,

 

       placebo-controlled trial with this product.  So, I

 

       do think an open-label trial ethically is more than

 

       justifiable, and I think most of the information,

 

       at least that I am looking at, especially as far as

 

       dose optimization concerns, could be gotten out of

 

       a non-randomized, open, prospectively designed

 

       trial.

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  Miss Drittler?

 

                 MS. DRITTLER:  On 2(a), I don't know what

 

       else to say except transplant patients.  What

 

       information should be included on dosing regimen--I

 

       question whether each patient might have a
 

 

 

 

 

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       different dosing regimen as opposed to what has

 

       been shown in the study with the 300 mg for all

 

       patients.  I just wonder if each patient could be

 

       different, and in that case it would have to be as

 

       directed.

 

                 Included in the labeling regarding

 

       expected benefit--so, that has not been proven.  I

 

       agree that it should refer to longevity.  As far as

 

       the carcinogenic impact, I pay little attention to

 

       that because everything I take has carcinogenic

 

       impact so we know that we are at greater risk for

 

       cancer when we are taking these drugs but that is

 

       one of the benefits of still breathing and living.

 

       That is it.

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  And your answer to the

 

       original question is yes?

 

                 MS. DRITTLER:  Yes.

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  Dr. Burdick?

 

                 DR. BURDICK:  Well, presuming

 

       approvability, the answer to the first question is

 

       yes.  It would be for long allo-transplant

 

       recipients.
 

 

 

 

 

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                 For 2(b) I think it would be important to

 

       note that it would be used in the setting of

 

       standard systemic immunosuppression, perhaps with

 

       an insert noting that the data were essentially in

 

       patients on azathioprine, which is not going to be

 

       the standard practice now.

 

                 For 2(c) it should say that this may

 

       improve survival.  It is not expected to be

 

       beneficial for acute rejection, and leave out

 

       anything else.

 

                 Can I just mention that postmarketing--you

 

       know, the FDA has one advantage here that you have

 

       built in 100 percent postmarketing surveillance

 

       through the OPTN.  So, that is different from

 

       looking towards approval of other drugs where you

 

       sort of lose control of things a little more, and

 

       that is an important dimension to keep in mind.

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  Dr. Moss?

 

                 DR. MOSS:  I kind of agree with Dr.

 

       Hunsicker.  I am not as concerned about the safety

 

       as whether there was really efficacy demonstrated

 

       in this trial.  So, I would say no but I thought
 

 

 

 

 

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       the safety data was reasonable.

 

                 I really don't have a lot to add to what

 

       the other people said, except I think it is a good

 

       idea that there is already a cohort of patients you

 

       can follow-up for long-term follow-up.

 

                 There was some data about irritability and

 

       irritation of the airways and that could just be

 

       followed up better in a better controlled,

 

       randomized, multicenter trial.

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  I will vote yes on this

 

       question and all the points that I would raise have

 

       already been raised by preceding members.  Dr.

 

       Barrett?

 

                 DR. BARRETT:  I will vote yes to the main

 

       body and for the population of lung transplant,

 

       like has been mentioned earlier.

 

                 With respect to parts (b) and (c), I

 

       think, again if we are going to recommend approval

 

       based on a single Phase II study, the description

 

       of the experimental findings unique to this study

 

       have to be clearly stated.  However, in addition to

 

       that, I think there has to be information that says
 

 

 

 

 

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       explicitly that dose response has not been shown

 

       with this product, and I think it is going to be

 

       very important to decide how much of the oral or

 

       other route of administration of cyclosporine gets

 

       added to this label because I think we are going to

 

       have to make some choices.  Dr. Venitz pointed out

 

       that in some cases the drug interaction piece will

 

       be very pertinent, but with others I don't think

 

       you can confer some of the information that is

 

       contained with the other routes of administration

 

       to this product.  We are specifically fighting the

 

       issue of very limited patient exposures with this

 

       product and I think that is where the primary

 

       safety liability comes from.

 

                 Having said that, on (d), even though I

 

       answered yes, I think we still need to do more

 

       follow-up studies with respect to the propylene

 

       glycol as well as the product itself in longer term

 

       tox studies.

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  Dr. Proschan?

 

                 DR. PROSCHAN:  On the safety, I don't

 

       really feel like I have a lot to say on the safety.
 

 

 

 

 

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       I would feel a lot more comfortable with more data

 

       than is available so far.  I think that if there is

 

       an additional randomized trial that is larger, that

 

       would go a long way toward establishing safety.

 

       So, to me, I am not convinced that the safety has

 

       been adequately characterized.

 

                 I guess I would label it for survival and

 

       chronic rejection-free survival for lung transplant

 

       patients.

 

                 In terms of additional information, I sort

 

       of changed my mind on what kind of study would be a

 

       good follow-up study if, in fact, this is not

 

       approved.  So, the question is what would you do

 

       next if it is not approved.  I think that the

 

       essential uncertainty here, in this group, is due

 

       to the fact that is one study; that it is a small

 

       study; it is a single institution study; and that

 

       the endpoint was this unexpected endpoint.  It

 

       seems to me that, given the actual data, you would

 

       choose a follow-up trial using the most powerful

 

       possible endpoint and that is basically chronic

 

       rejection-free survival.  That had the lowest
 

 

 

 

 

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       p value.  If you use that as an endpoint you would

 

       have the additional advantage that if patients then

 

       rejected, had a chronic rejection, you could give

 

       them drug so you wouldn't actually necessarily have

 

       to treat people until death.  Treating people until

 

       death is a very unpopular way of running a study.

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  Dr. Sampson?

 

                 DR. SAMPSON:  I actually don't have much

 

       to add to what has already been said.  I voted no

 

       on number one and I am ambivalent about the amount

 

       of safety data.  I would certainly like to see more

 

       information on dosing to understand the

 

       relationship of the severity and occurrence of the

 

       adverse experiences that the patients experienced

 

       relative to dose.

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  Miss Schell?

 

                 MS. SCHELL:  My vote is no also, mostly

 

       because of the limitations of the study, including

 

       the variable dosing when the patient fell out and

 

       didn't take medication anymore, and also the length

 

       of the study, the long-term effects.  So, it is no.

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  Well, that concludes the
 

 

 

 

 

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       official questions and I will turn it back to you,

 

       Dr. Albrecht, for any further thoughts that you

 

       might want to pose to us.  We are a little ahead of

 

       schedule--no one is going to complain, but we do

 

       have a bit of time for other pressing issues to be

 

       raised by members of the committee.

 

                 DR. ALBRECHT:  If I could just ask a

 

       follow-up question, and I know I have heard a lot

 

       of discussion on this but I wanted to actually just

 

       specifically ask this one more time in case there

 

       were further comments.  As you heard, Dr. Dilly

 

       proposed that the company, in the event of

 

       approval, would commit to conducting an open-label,

 

       multinational study of 250 patients.  I know going

 

       around the table I heard different opinions about

 

       open-label studies, not comparative studies.  I

 

       wonder if perhaps we could go around the table to

 

       see if the committee members would believe this was

 

       enough, or this in addition to comparative studies,

 

       randomized studies, dose-ranging studies.  Could I

 

       ask the committee to sort of think about the

 

       proposal versus other studies that I sort of think
 

 

 

 

 

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       I heard mentioned, either dose-ranging studies or

 

       some other randomized studies?

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  Well, if I could at least

 

       try to paraphrase the company's plan, it was 250

 

       patients.  Certainly it would be a broad number of

 

       patients that would address issues of confounders

 

       and all of that, but there really wasn't any

 

       explicit discussion of dosing either as to

 

       frequency per week or absolute amount per dosing.

 

       So, those questions sort of remain.  I am sure the

 

       company probably doesn't know exactly what the

 

       answers are.  Please?

 

                 DR. DILLY:  We explicitly suggested 300 mg

 

       inhaled cyclosporine three times a week or the

 

       patient maximum tolerated dose.  So, our explicit

 

       suggestion was--

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  Just the way the first study

 

       was performed?

 

                 DR. DILLY:  Yes.

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  Okay.

 

                 DR. HUNSICKER:  But it says for five years

 

       and, at this point, we have no information on five
 

 

 

 

 

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       years and at least a presumption that you don't

 

       need five years since the people who got short

 

       courses seemed to have benefited similarly.  So, I

 

       would not agree with five years at this point.

 

       That is something that you might look to change as

 

       you accumulate more information.

 

                 DR. DILLY:  One consideration here is we

 

       put in a single dosing element, if you like, 300

 

       mg, three times a week for five years.  It is

 

       perfectly within the realms of appropriate design

 

       to take a 100 mg arm into this design.  It is

 

       perfectly appropriate to have a two-year cohort and

 

       a five-year cohort so we can actually test.

 

       Because, you know, we do agree that providing

 

       patients with access to potentially efficacious

 

       therapy is entirely appropriate at this stage so

 

       comparison of 100 versus 300 would be a very

 

       appropriate way to go; a comparison of two years

 

       versus five years we would see as both addressing

 

       our concerns about the ethics of withholding

 

       therapy, but also answering some of the key

 

       questions around safety of long-term administration
 

 

 

 

 

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       and what is the right dose for these patients.  So,

 

       we are willing to refine this design.

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  Rather than go around the

 

       table, I will just look to anybody with comments.

 

       Dr. Hunsicker?

 

                 DR. HUNSICKER:  There are two issues and,

 

       therefore, I am not quite sure how to answer your

 

       question.  One is what, in my mind, would be needed

 

       for approval given that I voted no.  Then, the

 

       second is what is needed by the community, assuming

 

       that this does eventually become approvable for

 

       intelligent use.  We have to keep these things

 

       separate.

 

                 With respect to approval, what I want is

 

       more evidence that, in fact, there is a real

 

       benefit here.  I would actually agree rather

 

       strongly, surprisingly perhaps to some, that it

 

       need not be necessarily a placebo-designed study.

 

       I would be willing to accept, because there has

 

       been no change in chronic rejection if there is no

 

       change in chronic rejection over the next little

 

       while, an active treatment study against a
 

 

 

 

 

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       registry, contemporaneous registry control.  I

 

       don't think that it really is needed to set it up

 

       as a placebo-controlled trial.  So, that might ease

 

       the issue of doing another study if, in fact, the

 

       drug does not get to be approved.

 

                 In terms of its intelligent use, I think

 

       the outstanding issue is the amount of the drug and

 

       the duration of the drug.  Actually, what is to me

 

       a rather attractive design is what has just been

 

       discussed which would be 100 mg, or some other dose

 

       that was designed to be somewhat similar to what

 

       you would have given with oral dosing as opposed to

 

       respiratory dosing, versus the higher dose.  If you

 

       get a dose response--you know, if 300 is better

 

       than 100 then you have a clear answer to the other

 

       question as well.

 

                 The second is duration.  I personally

 

       would like to see a trial that has two years--how

 

       shall I say?--if you are going to approve, I would

 

       approve for two years and then let them design a

 

       trial to take it to five years and see if there is

 

       an additional benefit.
 

 

 

 

 

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                 DR. TISDALE:  I just wanted clarification

 

       on your question.  I think your question was,

 

       assuming approval, what study design would you

 

       envision as being appropriate as the next step, or

 

       did I understand you wrong?

 

                 DR. ALBRECHT:  I apologize.  I said that.

 

       Actually, I was thinking that the company's

 

       proposal was for a postapproval study but I was

 

       more interested, because the company had proposed a

 

       study that was an open-label study comparing to the

 

       registry, whether that type of study would be

 

       convincing to the committee or whether, when I

 

       heard discussion around the table about randomized

 

       studies, in fact, the committee felt that while

 

       that study might be informative, randomized

 

       studies, in fact, were what I was really hearing as

 

       the preferred approach to gaining further

 

       information, regardless of whether it be

 

       preapproval or postapproval.

 

                 DR. TISDALE:  Well, I happen to agree that

 

       it would likely be problematic--you know, putting

 

       on my other hat as an IRB member looking at a study
 

 

 

 

 

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       that is a randomized study design, to repeat a

 

       randomized study that has already shown a striking

 

       survival benefit.  I think most IRBs are not going

 

       to be capable of doing the post hoc analysis of the

 

       statistics and understand the limitations as they

 

       have been put forward today, and the majority of

 

       them would say, "look, you've already got a

 

       striking survival benefit, how are you going to go

 

       back?"  So, I would look at that investigator and

 

       say, "hm, I wonder what it is they're trying to do?

 

       They want to look at mechanism.  They want to do

 

       something else.  And, they're going to take these

 

       poor patients and randomize them to placebo so that

 

       they can look at lung biopsies and try and figure

 

       out how cyclosporine is working locally when the

 

       question for survival has already been answered."

 

       I would really be wondering at that point whether

 

       they were putting their science ahead of the

 

       patient's benefit.  So, putting on that other hat,

 

       I think it would be very difficult for me to look

 

       at a randomized, controlled trial in this setting

 

       with the survival being the primary outcome, with
 

 

 

 

 

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       my IRB hat on.

 

                 So, I think it is perfectly appropriate to

 

       go forward, either preapproval or postapproval,

 

       with a study that compares to contemporary

 

       patients.  There will be plenty of patients who

 

       don't go on trial.  I mean, I think it is striking

 

       that you got 50 percent.  I think that is a really

 

       high percentage of patients to go on a clinical

 

       trial so I don't think you will have any trouble

 

       having controls.  They will be the majority.

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  Dr. Burdick?

 

                 DR. BURDICK:  I mentioned this before, I

 

       am concerned that the sort of study that was

 

       proposed by the company, using cohort controls

 

       through OPTN data and so forth, is going to leave

 

       one, no matter how carefully it is put together,

 

       with a series of confounding variables to be

 

       interpreted and a more or less random conclusion

 

       that certain clinical settings work and certain

 

       others don't unless it is an extraordinarily

 

       positive benefit which is being predicted.  And, as

 

       we have said, probably the next time around there
 

 

 

 

 

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       won't be quite such a big difference, then you are

 

       not going to be able to have the fundamental

 

       information about basic utility of the drug.

 

                 So, I think another randomized trial is

 

       the way to find that out.  The argument that there

 

       is a huge difference in the trial we have been

 

       considering is true but, remember, we have seen

 

       that huge difference based on just a few patients

 

       because the numbers were so small.  And, it is not

 

       quite as convincing as everybody is making it out

 

       to be.  It is just too convincing to ignore but it

 

       is not that convincing.  The way you really find

 

       out for sure is to do another randomized trial,

 

       somewhat larger numbers, pick your power, and then

 

       the rest of what is proposed in sort of cohort

 

       study, no control group study or dose escalation

 

       will go on in the transplant community anyway and

 

       we will get that information.  It will evolve as

 

       immunosuppression evolves.  It will have to be

 

       redone every two or three years, just as everything

 

       else works.

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  Dr. Proschan?
 

 

 

 

 

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                 DR. PROSCHAN:  I think Chiron has done as

 

       good a job as you could possibly do with this data

 

       that they have, and I am still not convinced.  So,

 

       for me, I would need to see another randomized

 

       trial.  I think the analyses that they have done,

 

       the sensitivity analyses, are very good and that is

 

       what made this so difficult for me.  You pushed me

 

       right to the edge but you didn't quite push me

 

       over, although I am sure some of you probably want

 

       to push me over a cliff.  But, to me, it is not

 

       strong enough and, to me, I would need to see

 

       another randomized, controlled trial.  It would not

 

       be sufficient to see a one-arm trial for example.

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  Dr. Moss?

 

                 DR. MOSS:  Actually, I like the suggestion

 

       that Dr. Schoenfeld recommended.  You know, I think

 

       the people that voted no, they would need to say

 

       that a randomized clinical trial needs to be done.

 

       I think having the endpoint be chronic

 

       rejection-free survival makes a lot of sense to me

 

       in the sense that then if people did develop the

 

       endpoint they could be done with the study, and if
 

 

 

 

 

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       they wanted to then do something off-label that

 

       would be a reasonable thing to do.  So, I thought

 

       that was an excellent suggestion for a randomized,

 

       clinical trial.

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  Dr. Hunsicker?

 

                 DR. HUNSICKER:  It is always preferable to

 

       do a randomized clinical trial and my endorsement

 

       of the possibility of a one-arm study does not take

 

       away from the fact that is always preferable to do

 

       a randomized clinical trial.  Sometimes it is not

 

       possible or feasible, or whatever you want to call

 

       it.

 

                 A way to get around the problem that Dr.

 

       Burdick raised, which is that if you use a registry

 

       control you are going to have some explanation to

 

       do, and if you have a close call it is going to be

 

       very unconvincing.  One way to get around this is

 

       to stipulate a minimum difference.  You know, what

 

       we are trying to do now is to see whether this idea

 

       that there is 70, or whatever it was, 75 percent

 

       reduction in mortality is credible.  If you say

 

       that the mortality absolute difference--let's say
 

 

 

 

 

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       between 20 percent and 50 percent, I don't remember

 

       exactly what the numbers were--that there has to be

 

       at least a 15 percent difference in mortality that

 

       is observed, that will take care of an awful lot of

 

       messes in non-equality and will also get at the

 

       issue of whether this is really a robust finding.

 

       So, I think that there is, in fact, a rigorous way

 

       that one can do a single-arm, registry controlled

 

       trial by defining exactly what your outcome is.

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  Dr. Proschan?

 

                 DR. PROSCHAN:  In terms of the single arm

 

       or the non-placebo study, if you did dose ranging I

 

       would suggest trying to actually decrease that

 

       volume of propylene glycol.  It seemed that even in

 

       the placebo patients it was poorly tolerated.  So,

 

       rather than decreasing--you know, it is a small

 

       point--the concentration of cyclosporine, actually

 

       try to decrease the volume--it is something like 5

 

       mL, which is a lot of stuff to inhale even though

 

       most of it is not being inhaled.

 

                 A second point is that if you are going to

 

       compare to the registry, is there a way to control
 

 

 

 

 

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       or at least partially control for systemic

 

       immunosuppressive drugs so that at the end of this

 

       clinical trial you don't have radically different

 

       systemic immunosuppression?

 

                 DR. HUNSICKER:  The registry data on doses

 

       of immunosuppression is non-existent and is very

 

       low quality.  I think all you can get is sort of

 

       what they were on.

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  Dr. Schoenfeld?

 

                 DR. SCHOENFELD:  I think, first, if you

 

       think that it is unethical to do a randomized trial

 

       we should approve this.  I think if you can't do a

 

       randomized trial, then the drug should be approved

 

       now.

 

                 As a postmarketing study, I think the

 

       single-arm study is a great idea because basically,

 

       to use a baseball metaphor, the postmarketing study

 

       would tell us whether we hit a home run or just got

 

       to first base and that is an important thing to

 

       know because you want to know where to go from

 

       here, and a long postmarketing study would show us

 

       that.  If survival was really, really good compared
 

 

 

 

 

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       to historical controls we would know that we had

 

       gotten a home run.

 

                 On the other hand, the fastest way to get

 

       approval has got to be a randomized, controlled

 

       study organized to be as quick as possible, with a

 

       sequential stopping rule, with an endpoint that

 

       occurs as early as possible.  In this case it would

 

       be chronic rejection with lots of biopsies done so

 

       you can see it.  If they do a single-arm study it

 

       will be a long, long, long time and then I think

 

       the results will be somewhat confusing.

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  Dr. Sampson?

 

                 DR. SAMPSON:  I just wanted to echo again

 

       the controlled, randomized, double-blind trial.

 

                 DR. MANNON:  I just wanted to make a

 

       comment regarding the number of comments made

 

       around the table and also by the investigators

 

       regarding the ethics of this and what an IRB might

 

       potentially go along with.  But I have to tell you

 

       that if I were sitting on an IRB and an

 

       investigator wanted to present a double-blind study

 

       and said, "I have this initial study and look at
 

 

 

 

 

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       the striking event," I don't think that I would

 

       find it inappropriate if I understood that the data

 

       presented represented some concerns and flaws and

 

       how the data was interpreted.  And, look at us.

 

       There are 18 of us sitting here and we can't even

 

       come to an agreement one way or the other.  We are

 

       all sort of split.  So, that clearly means a number

 

       of intelligent people are interpreting this data in

 

       a variety of ways.  So, I think that a standard

 

       IRB, presented with that kind of information, would

 

       understand the necessity for going on.

 

                 Then, as far as the patients, I think if I

 

       presented my patient with what they should take--we

 

       use a lot of things off-label--I shouldn't even say

 

       this but we use a lot of drugs in immunosuppression

 

       for transplant that are off-label based on a couple

 

       of case series, and you if present it to a patient

 

       and say this is the option and we are going to try

 

       this.  Most will do what you recommend and it is

 

       not clear to many of the patients that this is the

 

       beneficial therapy.  Therefore, I don't feel that

 

       everybody is going to run and say I can't be on
 

 

 

 

 

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       placebo.

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  Dr. Moss?

 

                 DR. MOSS:  I just want to echo what Dr.

 

       Mannon said.  I think there is a lot in the

 

       literature about smaller Phase II trials which show

 

       that there appears to be efficacy and in a lot of

 

       those cases, or most of those cases, there were

 

       then larger multicenter studies done and they all

 

       got through IRB committees.  So, I think there is

 

       very good precedent in the literature for orphan

 

       diseases, such as idiopathic pulmonary fibrosis,

 

       where this same scenario has happened where IRBs

 

       approved larger multicenter, randomized clinical

 

       trials.  So, I agree with you, Dr. Mannon.  To say

 

       that no IRB is ever going to approve a multicenter

 

       trail based on the data that we were presented

 

       today I think is incorrect.

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  Well, that being the extent

 

       of comments here, Dr. Albrecht, anything more?

 

                 DR. ALBRECHT:  No, just to thank everybody

 

       very much for all your thoughtful comments.  You

 

       have given us a lot of food for thought and we will
 

 

 

 

 

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       take them back and discuss them internally.

 

                 DR. SWENSON:  I would like to reiterate my

 

       thanks to everyone, the company, the FDA, the panel

 

       members, the audience and the patients who came

 

       here.

 

                 [Whereupon, at 4:30 p.m., the proceedings

 

       adjourned.]