Return-Path: <nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov> Received: from literacy (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by literacy.nifl.gov (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id hB4EYdm02142; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 09:34:39 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 09:34:39 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <002901c3ba73$ac6dd3b0$e601370a@CSHANK> Errors-To: listowner@literacy.nifl.gov Reply-To: nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov Originator: nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov Sender: nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov Precedence: bulk From: "Cathy Shank" <cshank@access.k12.wv.us> To: Multiple recipients of list <nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov> Subject: [NIFL-ESL:9690] Re: Bader Inventory X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0c -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; Status: O Content-Length: 5414 Lines: 165 Are any states using the Bader Reading and Language Inventory for NRS reporting? For those who have used it, is it practical to use with groups of students or is it a one on one tool? I found this review of the Inventory http://www.thereadingpeople.org/docs/Bader_Reading_and_Language_Inventor y.PDF and it sounds very interesting particularly for use in adult literacy programs. Cathy Shank Phone: 304-766-7655 ext. 112 or 1-800-257-3723 ext. 112; Fax: 304-766-7915 mailto:cshank@access.k12.wv.us -----Original Message----- From: nifl-esl@nifl.gov [mailto:nifl-esl@nifl.gov] On Behalf Of Faitha Clark Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 11:38 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [NIFL-ESL:9678] Re: Bader Inventory Yes, it has been normed on refugee and migrant workers. It can be benchmarked to the NRS, and yes, there is more than one form of the test for pre- and post testing. It is not designed for ESL only. It is published by Merrill-Prentice Hall and last I knew it cost $39.00. You can check out their web site, or perhaps your local bookstore would have it. ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Cathy Shank" <cshank@access.k12.wv.us> Reply-To: nifl-esl@nifl.gov Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 08:21:40 -0500 (EST) >I have not heard of this assessment. Was it designed for and normed on >ESL students? Can the scores be benchmarked to the NRS levels? Is >there more than one form of the assessment so that it can be used for >both pre- and post-testing? > >Cathy Shank >Phone: 304-766-7655 ext. 112 or 1-800-257-3723 ext. 112; Fax: >304-766-7915 >mailto:cshank@access.k12.wv.us > >-----Original Message----- >From: nifl-esl@nifl.gov [mailto:nifl-esl@nifl.gov] On Behalf Of Faitha >Clark >Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 2:20 PM >To: Multiple recipients of list >Subject: [NIFL-ESL:9670] Re: TABE and Adult LAS for ESL > >We use the Bader Reading and Language Inventory. It serves k-12 levels >and esl. It has sections for learning disabilities too. It is very >inexpensive, about $40, and you can legally photocopy it! > >---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- >From: "Kroeger, Miriam" <MKroege@ade.az.gov> >Reply-To: nifl-esl@nifl.gov >Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 11:19:59 -0500 (EST) > >>Arizona is using the BEST (Literacy and Oral)and for those students >assessing at Level IV or V, the TABE Reading and Language. Are we happy >about this, no, but the cost involved in developing a "valid and >reliable" test in phenomenal. Unfortunately, the BEST and BEST Plus are >two separate tests, and scores do not correlate. Our teachers have said >that the BEST is good for the lower level students (ESOL Pre - II), but >not for the higher level. >> >>In addition to validity and reliability, we also have to look at >manageability, training and cost factors. Additionally, how do these >tests match up for "special needs"? We were told we could not enlarge >any of the graphics on the BEST, yet, phone books certainly have larger >type now than in the 70's. >> >>We are certainly on the look out for assessments that better reflect >what we are teaching in our classes. >> >>-Miriam Kroeger >>Arizona >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: David Rosen [mailto:djrosen@comcast.net] >>Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 5:29 AM >>To: Multiple recipients of list >>Subject: [NIFL-ESL:9659] Re: TABE and Adult LAS for ESL >> >> >>Yvonne, >> >>In Massachusetts, to address the need you have identified, we use the >>REEP test, a standardized test of writing skills for adult ESOL >>students which covers SPL levels not covered by the current BEST test. >>It is available from the REEP program in Virginia. >> >>David J. Rosen >> >> >>On Monday, November 24, 2003, at 12:52 PM, Yvonne Lerew wrote: >> >>> In South Dakota, there are two authorized tests for adult education >>> and literacy programs funded through the state. These are the BEST >>> and the TABE. We end up using the TABE for adult ESL students on the > >>> high end who have maxxed out the BEST. I would agree that it is not >>> an appropriate assessment tool in many cases. It may be useful for >>> some students who have the long-term goal of achieving the GED since >>> the academic skills tested the TABE are relevant for these students. > >>> However, we have a group of advanced ESL students in an EL Civics >>> class for whom the TABE is not relevant. Fortunately, this group is >a >>> small percentage of our total students. So we give the test to meet >>> the demands of the funders and then move on to meet the needs of our >>> students. >>> I hope this is helpful. >>> Yvonne Lerew >>> >>> At 10:30 AM 11/24/2003 -0500, you wrote: >>>> Hello Everyone, >>>> My name is Melanie Hamper and this is my first time using the list. > >>>> I am a >>>> graduate student of TESOL at Madonna University in Livonia, MI. >>>> >>>> I am having difficulty finding anyone who uses the TABE for Adult >ESL >>>> programs. If anyone does use the TABE for their program, I would be > >>>> very >>>> grateful to get your opinions about how useful it is to you. Help!! > >>>> I am >>>> doing a comparison between the TABE and the Adult LAS for my final >>>> project >>>> in Testing/Assessment of ESL students. >>>> >>>> Thank you. >>>> >>>> Melanie >>>> TESOL grad student >>> >>> >>> >>David J. Rosen >>djrosen@comcast.net >>617-522-7020 >> >> >> > >
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