[NIFL-ESL:8712] Re: Writing in books

From: Susan Ryan (susanefl@hotmail.com)
Date: Mon Mar 03 2003 - 10:59:16 EST


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Cindi,  Could you tell me what areas in South Carolina have active ESOL
teaching programs? Is it fairly prevalent there? In public school systems, 
do you know?
Susan
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>From: "Cindi Riley" <criley@lowcountryliteracy.org>
>Reply-To: nifl-esl@nifl.gov
>To: Multiple recipients of list <nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov>
>Subject: [NIFL-ESL:8706] Re: Writing in books
>Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 09:59:43 -0500 (EST)
>
>I think that a CD for worksheets would be wonderful. ELLIS has Learner
>Guides that are printed in just that way. It's great to be able to print
>just what you need.
>
>********************
>Cindi Riley
>Assistant Director
>Literacy Volunteers of the Lowcountry
>1403 Prince St.
>Beaufort, SC 29902
>phone 843-525-6658
>fax 843-521-1945
>criley@lowcountryliteracy.org
>www.lowcountryliteracy.org
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: nifl-esl@nifl.gov [mailto:nifl-esl@nifl.gov]On Behalf Of Cathy Shank
>Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 10:11 AM
>To: Multiple recipients of list
>Subject: [NIFL-ESL:8662] Re: Writing in books
>
>
>Do you have a budget for photocopies?  Or is that a problem also?
>Just curious to know if a text series that offered an accompanying CD
>ROM that came with the Teacher edition and that had worksheets that you
>could print off, would be attractive?
>Cathy Shank
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: nifl-esl@nifl.gov [mailto:nifl-esl@nifl.gov] On Behalf Of Lorraine
>Gardner
>Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 10:03 AM
>To: Multiple recipients of list
>Subject: [NIFL-ESL:8661] Re: Writing in books
>
>This is definitely the ideal situation, I agree. However, in the
>non-credit
>community college ESL/ABE programs in which I have taught, the only way
>students could have their own book was to buy it themselves. Some did,
>but
>the vast majority could not afford it. So if I wanted to give students
>an
>assignment to work on at home, I had to make photocopies. With the
>budget
>cuts going on nowadays, I imagine the situation will not change any time
>
>soon. It's not the ideal, but it's the situation that many of us have to
>face.
>
>Lorraine Gardner
>Academic/Workplace Skills Instructor
>Omaha, NE
>lad-oh@etop.org
>
>
>At 09:42 AM 2/27/03 -0500, you wrote:
> >Christina,
> >
> >I have to agree that students need the actual book.  Having their own
> >personal book gives a status of "learner" and nothing else accomplishes
> >this in quite the same way.
> >
> >Donita Kaare
> >Learning Skills Center Director
> >Olney Central College
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Barbara Dorsett [mailto:barbsesl@worldpath.net]
> >Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 8:38 AM
> >To: Multiple recipients of list
> >Subject: [NIFL-ESL:8659] Re: Writing in books
> >
> >Christina:  Our adult ed. center was recently given an explanation of
> >the
> >copyright law, and the way I understand it is that as long as you
>aren't
> >copying a whole book, and what you do copy is only used in your
> >classroom,
> >you can make copies.  Of course, that may mean some things in a book
> >won't
> >be used.  Some of us just have the students number a sheet of paper and
> >do
> >exercises that way without writing in the book.  Anyway, I know how you
> >feel--we also have limited resources and have to keep a close eye on
> >copy
> >machine use. Any, yes, I do look for photocopiable materials, and I am
> >finding more and more of them.  I think publishers/authors are getting
> >the
> >idea of our plight in adult ed.  My favorite text to get people started
> >in
> >English is called Collaborations: English in Our Lives (Lit. Level) by
> >Donna
> >Moss, Cathy Shank, and Lynda Terrill (Go, Lynda!) published by Heinle &
> >Heinle. It has life stories written by actual learners (so your
>learners
> >can
> >relate), great photographs, many different writing, listening, and
> >speaking
> >activities, and great ideas for little projects to do in class.  The
> >upper
> >levels of this series have even more great ideas for extension
> >activities.
> >Barbara Dorsett,
> >ESOL teacher and coordinator
> >Dover Adult Learning Center
> >Dover, NH
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: <Cleomathew@aol.com>
> >To: Multiple recipients of list <nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov>
> >Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 12:50 AM
> >Subject: [NIFL-ESL:8654] Writing in books
> >
> >
> > > Hello list,
> > >
> > > I was wondering how other people dealt with this problem. I teach at
> >the
> > > pre-literacy level with adult refugees. We can buy classroom sets of
> >books,
> > > but the books have to stay in the room and can't be written in.
> >Students
> >can
> > > buy books, but many don't have the resources to do so. What have
>other
> > > programs done? Do you use books in your classroom? Do you look for
> >copyable
> > > materials? Are there any favorite books at the pre-literacy level?
> > >
> > > I like Longman ESL Literacy, but since we can't write in the books
>and
> >it
> > > isn't a copyable book, I can't use it. I've ended up making a lot of
> >my
> >own
> > > worksheets, and I use pictures from magazines and the Internet to
>make
> >board
> > > games and card sets for basic foods, body parts, clothing, etc.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Christina L. Mathew
> > > DeKalb Tech. ESL Teacher,
> > > Clarkston, Georgia
> > >
>


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