Received: from web40912.mail.yahoo.com (web40912.mail.yahoo.com [66.218.78.209]) by literacy.nifl.gov (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id h1LG6kP16872 for <nifl-esl@nifl.gov>; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 11:06:47 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <20030221160638.33140.qmail@web40912.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [164.113.53.21] by web40912.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 21 Feb 2003 08:06:38 PST Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 08:06:38 -0800 (PST) From: Robb Scott <jayhawk76@yahoo.com> Subject: [NIFL-ESL:8559] Re: Impending Attack on Iraq To: nifl-esl@nifl.gov In-Reply-To: <F177j1d4vJFRFWMozgY000015f9@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Status: O Content-Length: 6018 Lines: 207 I attended a three hour symposium and panel discussion on the Iraq crisis the other day. The event was sponsored by the Fort Hays State University Faculty Senate, and was attended by about 200 people. There was a lot of important information shared at this event. The discussions were even-handed, although generally perhaps most people seemed somewhat resigned to the military action. There are two video clips, covering the entire discussion, at http://www.fhsu.edu/ctelt/iraq/ . I hope you find this useful. I agree with Susan that the media is complicit in the inexorable buildup to war. Best regards, Robb Scott --- Susan Ryan <susanefl@hotmail.com> wrote: > We live in Florida so have the usual preparedness > mentality for hurricanes, > but duct tape-- please--I think worthless against > such disaster as they are > portending. Some of this media fear-feeding is only > to rationalize the need > for a wrongful war. > Susan > > > > > > > >From: Pamela Brown <brownpg@jmu.edu> > >Reply-To: nifl-esl@nifl.gov > >To: Multiple recipients of list > <nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov> > >Subject: [NIFL-ESL:8550] Re: reading level of > public resources for > >Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 08:33:07 -0500 (EST) > > > >Dottie, > > > >Maybe I'm an ostrich too (at least they have long > thin legs!) but I've > >never put together a hurricane kit -- and I'm a > transplant from the Mass. > >coast! > > > >I also have no intention of buying duct tape and > plastic; if it's my time, > >it's my time. I think a reasonable approach to this > might be to bring the > >topic up for class discussion. Ask students what > they know about "Operation > >Ready," if they've bought duct tape and plastic, > etc. You could even make a > >list what students feel is reasonable, what they > think is extreme; list > >ideas they have or what they think they might need > to "survive;" or maybe > >even more importantly, discuss their fears. Call me > cynical, but I > >sometimes feel the best ideas come from us "normal" > citizens and not our > >government officials who often seem to be lacking > in common sense (and > >lately seem to be hell-bent on making us paranoid, > nervous wrecks). > >"Preparedness" should be a common sense approach > toward safety, not panic. > >21 people died in a Chicago nightclub fire that had > nothing to do with > >terrorism. 168 died in Oklahoma City at the hands > of a terrorist who had > >nothing to do with Sadaam Hussein or Osama Bin > Laden. > > > >OK, I'll get off my soap box! Hope all of you on > this list who have been > >buried by snow or ice are thawing out! > > > >Pam > > > >--On Thursday, February 20, 2003 6:08 PM -0500 > Dottie Shattuck > ><dottie@shattuck.net> wrote: > > > >>Just yesterday, one of my colleagues said she > thought we should develop a > >>lesson on this issue for our beginner adult ESL > students. I must admit > >>that I'm only luke-warm to the idea. [I've lived > in NC 6 years & have > >>yet to make a hurricane/severe storm kit. Maybe > I'm an ostrich.] > >> > >>I've developed & taught lessons on the unusually > cold winter we've had > >>(frostbite, wind chill, no charcoal grills in the > house, carbon monoxide > >>poisoning) because most of my students are from > tropical countries & had > >>no concept of "dangerous cold", but I've no > intention of suggesting they > >>buy plastic sheeting & duct tape. > >> > >>What is a reasonable approach to this unreasonable > situation? Have any > >>of you addressed -- or are planning to address -- > this situation in your > >>adult classrooms? I'm at a total loss about this. > >> > >>Dottie Shattuck > >>Central Piedmont CC > >>Charlotte, NC > >>dottie@shattuck.net > >> > >>----- Original Message ----- > >>From: <hsmith@coe.tamu.edu> > >>To: "Multiple recipients of list" > <nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov> > >>Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 4:41 PM > >>Subject: [NIFL-ESL:8546] reading level of public > resources for terrorist > >>attack > >> > >> > >>| The federal government this week launched a > "Ready Campaign" to > >>encourage | the public to prepare for possible > terrorist attacks. That > >>campaign has | instructions for preparedness > online at: www.ready.gov > >>| > >>| FEMA has an online document called "Are You > Ready: A Guide to Citizen > >>| Preparedness", which can be downloaded in Word > or pdf format at: > >>| www.fema.gov/areyouready/ > >>| > >>| Using Microsoft Word's quick and dirty check of > readability, I > >>ascertained | that the information and > instructions at ready.gov are > >>written at a | Flesch-Kincaid reading level of > grade 9.8. Worse still, > >>the FEMA guide is | mostly written at the 11th to > 12th grade reading > >>level. > >>| > >>| I will (with difficulty) refrain from comment on > that information. > >>| > >>| However, I made a suggestion to adult literacy > and ESL teachers in Texas > >>| via our statewide teachers listserv as to using > this information in the > >>| classroom. Perhaps some adult learners would > want to develop a simpler, > >>| more accessible and readable version of the > preparedness guide to share > >>| with friends, family and other classes as a > classroom project. > >>| > >>| > >>| ___________________________________ > >>| Harriet Vardiman Smith > >>| Librarian > >>| Adult Literacy Clearinghouse > >>| Texas Center for Adult Literacy & Learning > >>| Texas A&M University > >>| 800-441-READ > >>| website: www-tcall.tamu.edu > >>| main office email: tcall@coe.tamu.edu > >>| > >>| > >>| > >> > >> > > > > > > > >-- > >Brown, Pamela Greenhalgh > >Workforce Improvement Network > >James Madison University > >MSC 9003/Blue Ridge > >Harrisonburg, VA 22807 > >540-568-8797 > >888-637-8494 > >brownpg@jmu.edu > >http://www.jmu.edu/esol > >http://www.jmu.edu/mainstva > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! 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