Return-Path: <nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov> Received: from literacy (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by literacy.nifl.gov (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id h26H72P09333; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 12:07:02 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 12:07:02 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <9F6549D6EB23D51180A00002A53740EB015164A3@EXCHANGE> Errors-To: listowner@literacy.nifl.gov Reply-To: nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov Originator: nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov Sender: nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov Precedence: bulk From: Gustav Kocsis <gkocsis@sfccnm.edu> To: Multiple recipients of list <nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov> Subject: [NIFL-ESL:8752] RE: NIFL's Policy X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0c -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas Content-Type: text/plain; X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Status: O Content-Length: 4113 Lines: 97 I agree. I have found that there has been so much good out of this list that I have been willing to put up with some inconvenience. Just stay with it; "this too shall pass." Gustav Kocsis -----Original Message----- From: Susan Ryan [mailto:susanefl@hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 10:02 AM To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [NIFL-ESL:8751] RE: NIFL's Policy Melinda, This is regrettable. Please reconsider.We need people like you on this list. Susan >From: "Melinda Hefner" <mhefner@cccti.edu> >Reply-To: nifl-esl@nifl.gov >To: Multiple recipients of list <nifl-esl@literacy.nifl.gov> >Subject: [NIFL-ESL:8750] RE: NIFL's Policy >Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 11:49:37 -0500 (EST) > >This will, unfortunately, be my last post on this list. I have learned >so much from so many of you. And, over the course of my being a list >member, so many of you have helped with questions specific to my working >on an ESL/Civics Education Project. The generosity that you have shown >is greatly appreciated. Many of you took the time to e-mail me >privately to give information, instructional tips, curriculum ideas, >lesson plan information, etc. I am so grateful for your having done >that. As a relative newcomer to English literacy, I learned so much >more from you than I was able to share in return. Again, thank you so >much for your insight, your caring about our students, and your >willingness to share with one another so that we can help our students >master English and become fully participating members of their >communities. > >I tried so very hard to stay out of the heated discussions that have >been posted lately, and, to the best of my recollection, I did not post >anything to the group regarding the "debates". But I became very >frustrated when the ugly attacks came without an apparent end. >Unfortunately, I sent the following post to the list: "Will the list >moderator PLEASE do something about this person's inexcusable attacks on >members of this list? Thanks!" In retrospect, I should have sent this >to the list moderator. I apologize for "dragging" the other list >members into my request. > >Shortly after that posting, I received an off list e-mail from the >banned member saying, "You'll get yours too someday. CJ" This is the >kind of ugliness that I had hoped to avoid for the list, but I found >myself being on the receiving end of it instead. > >Best wishes to all of you. So many of you do such a wonderful job on >behalf of our students. And thank you to the list moderator(s) for >trying to make this list a wonderful place for the exchange of ideas to >help us all be better at our craft. > >Warm regards, >Melinda Hefner > > > >>> WonJst@netscape.net 03/05 11:55 PM >>> >"Miriam Burt" <miriam@cal.org> wrote: > > >And I do not wish to see messages on this list serve (or in my own >mailbox either for that matter) where folks call other folks crybabies >and attack them personally for their views. It's not and issue of >censorship: it's of keeping someone from yelling fire in a crowded >theatre when there's no fire.<< > >Is your sense of proportion a bit skewed here? Are your priorities >straight, given all that is going on in the world right now? > >I ask that you moderate and lead discussions and stop censoring the >list. It's that simple. Also, you might all be a bit more honest about >what happened instead of dumping on one person who became upset (he >didn't use words like 'asinine' or 'troublemaker', two others did). The >individual became upset at the whining, upset at the dishonesty, and >upset about the censorship. At least that is what he said in a post >offlist. > >SJW > >__________________________________________________________________ >The NEW Netscape 7.0 browser is now available. Upgrade now! >http://channels.netscape.com/ns/browsers/download.jsp > >Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at >http://webmail.netscape.com/ _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus
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