[NIFL-ESL:9617] Re: [PartTime] article from The Chronicle

From: Barb Linek (eslmax@hotmail.com)
Date: Mon Nov 10 2003 - 11:52:17 EST


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It certainly is difficult finding a fulltime position in adult education.  In the Chicago area, I only know of two colleges with fulltime AE instructors:  Harper and City Colleges.  There are at least 30 colleges in this area.  The community-based organizations which offer adult ESL pay poverty-level salaries.  Any ideas how to rectify this problem?

Barb Linek
Illinois Migrant Education Even Start
Adult Education Coordinator
(815) 609-9935
 
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From: Ujwala Samant <LALUMINEUSE@YAHOO.COM>
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Subject: [NIFL-ESL:9612] Re: Fw: [PartTime] article from The Chronicle
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 09:04:22 -0500 (EST)
Dear Tanya,
I hear your anger at being a fulltime-partimer. I
think most people on this listserv understand and
support your anger. I agree with your statement that
this is no reason for the government/funders to take
advantage of the generosity of adult educators,
because I certainly don't see K-12 teachers putting up
with such treatment. I also don't see Susan or
Elisabeth saying that not giving partimers benefits
and retirement etc. was fair. If anything, Elizabeth
was clear in pointing out that it was their loss when
they lost good teachers because of the lack of
benefits.
I see this as systemic, in that the funders (and the
government) counts on the kindess of teachers and the
fact that they cannot organise is a huge disadvantage.
I've seen programmes where teachers have left halfway
through the term because they found jobs with
benefits. And finding a replacement was not hard. It's
the classic scenario where there are always teachers
who can/choose to work without benefits. So the demand
is met. In the meanwhile, making a career in adult
education becomes harder and harder.
regards
Ujwala Samant
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