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000 FXUS66 KLOX 210530 AFDLOX SOUTHWEST CALIFORNIA AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE LOS ANGELES/OXNARD CA 1020 PM PDT SAT SEP 20 2008 UPDATED AVIATION DISCUSSION .SHORT TERM (TODAY-TUESDAY)... AS EXPECTED...TEMPS WERE COOLER JUST ABOUT EVERYWHERE TODAY AS 950 MB TEMPS COOLED NEARLY 5 DEGREES FRIDAY NIGHT INTO TODAY. SOME LINGERING HIGHER RH VALUES ACROSS THE SAN JOAQUIN VALLEY AND DECENT NRN GRADIENTS WILL HELP TO PUSH SOME CLOUDS INTO THE NRN SLOPES OF SBA/VTU AND WESTERN LA COUNTY MTNS OVERNIGHT. THERE COULD BE SOME LOCALLY DENSE FOG POSSIBLE ACROSS THE GRAPEVINE AFTER MIDNIGHT. ALSO...EXPECT SOME LOCALLY GUSTY WINDS ACROSS THE I-5 CORRIDOR WITH NORTHWEST TO NORTH WINDS 20 TO 30 MPH WITH GUSTS TO 40 MPH POSSIBLE OVERNIGHT. THE SANTA BARBARA COUNTY MTNS AND ADJACENT SOUTH COAST WILL EXPERIENCE GUSTY NORTHWEST TO NORTH WINDS THIS EVENING...SHIFTING TO THE NORTHEAST LATER THIS EVENING. THIS WILL CONTINUE TO AFFECT THE PASSES AND CANYONS NEAR GAVIOTA AND LAS FLORES CANYON WITH GUSTS TO 40 MPH...THEN SHIFT THE FOCUS ON THE FOOTHILLS ABOVE MONTECITO LATER TONIGHT. PORTIONS OF THE ANTELOPE VALLEY WILL CONTINUE SW TO W WINDS 20 TO 30 MPH WITH LOCAL GUSTS TO 45 MPH...MAINLY NEAR THE SOLEDAD CYN PASS AND LAKE PALMDALE THIS EVENING. NOT MUCH CHANGE IN THE UPPER PATTERN AS BROAD NW FLOW WILL PERSIST THROUGH SUNDAY. HOWEVER...A FAIRLY SIGNIFICANT EDDY BEGINS TO DEVELOP OVERNIGHT AS MODERATE NW FLOW ACROSS THE OUTER WATERS PERSISTS. LOW CLOUDS SHOULD BE BETTER ORGANIZED TO AFFECT THE LA COUNTY COASTAL AREAS...POSSIBLY MAKING INTO VTU COUNTY COASTAL AREAS LATE. LATEST SATELLITE IMAGERY DOES SHOW A MORE ORGANIZED AREA OF STRATUS MOVING UP INTO ORANGE COUNTY AND SHOULD REACH" onClick="return popup(this, 'notes')">REACH LA COUNTY BY MIDNIGHT. PRETTY GOOD CONFIDENCE THAT LOW CLOUDS SHOULD STAY OUT OF SBA COUNTY SOUTH COAST DUE TO THE NORTHERLY GRADS THIS EVENING. LATEST AMDAR SOUNDING NEAR KLAX SHOWS MARINE LAYER NEAR 1500 FT...BUT INVERSION REMAINS QUITE WEAK DUE TO COOLER AIR ADVECTION EARLIER. THE CENTRAL COAST SHOULD SEE SOME PATCHY LOW CLOUDS DEVELOP...ESPECIALLY BETWEEN LOMPOC AND SANTA MARIA...BUT NOT QUITE AS ORGANIZED AS TO THE SOUTH AS SATELLITE IMAGERY INDICATES. TEMPS SHOULD A BIT WARMER THEN WHAT MOS GUIDANCE WAS ADVERTISING N OF POINT CONCEPTION DUE TO WEAK OFFSHORE FLOW FORECAST IN THE MORNING. NOT MUCH CHANGE EXPECTED FOR THE COASTAL AREAS OF LA/VTU COUNTIES...BUT TEMPS SHOULD REBOUND A COUPLE OF DEGREES ACROSS INLAND AREAS. HIGH PRESSURE ALOFT WILL BEGIN TO BUILD IN FROM THE SOUTH SLOWLY ON MONDAY...AND STRENGTHEN TO A 590 DM HIGH BY EARLY TUE. THEREFORE...TEMPS WILL BEGIN TO WARM UP BOTH DAYS...ESPECIALLY TUE. SFC GRADS WHICH LOOKED TO BE LIGHTLY TO MODERATE OFFSHORE A FEW DAYS AGO...NOW LOOKS MORE WEAKLY NEUTRAL. NEVERTHELESS...THIS SHOULD HELP TEMPS TO WARM UP INTO THE LOWER 90S ACROSS THE WARMEST INTERIOR LOCATIONS OF THE FORECAST AREA. ...FROM PREVIOUS DISCUSSION... .LONG TERM (WEDNESDAY-SATURDAY)... WITH ONSHORE GRADS WEAKENING AND THE RIDGE CONTINUING ITS BUILD UP FROM THE SOUTH...WED AND THU LOOKS TO REMAIN WARM...WITH ONE OF THOSE DAYS BEING THE WARMEST OF THE WEEK. THE HIGH AND WEAK ONSHORE GRADS SHOULD KEEP THE MARINE LAYER CONFINED TO THE IMMEDIATE COAST AT BEST...WHICH FURTHER HINTS AT A WARM MIDWEEK. THERE IS A WILDCARD IN A WEAK CUTOFF LOW TO THE WEST. THIS PATTERN WILL CREATE AN EAST-WEST TEMP GRAD THAT MODELS CURRENTLY HAVE US SITTING IN THE WARM SECTOR WED AND THU...BUT THIS PATTERN COULD SHIFT AND TEMPS COULD BE A BIT COOLER. NOT ONLY THAT...BUT A WHEN QUESTION EXISTS AS WELL...AS TO WHEN WILL THINGS FINALLY SHIFT TO THE EAST. CURRENTLY THE GFS AND ECMWF ARE BEHAVING NICELY...WITH A TROUGH DIGGING INTO THE LOW TO THE WEST AND PUSHING EVERYTHING EASTWARD ON FRI AND SAT. THIS IS REFLECTED IN THE FORECAST WITH SOME COOLING...BUT CONFIDENCE IS LOW THIS FAR OUT. && .AVIATION... 21/0530Z. MARINE LAYER ABOUT 1400 DEEP AND CAPPED BY A VERY WEAK INVERSION. A WEAK EDDY WILL SPIN UP TONIGHT AND CIGS WILL LIKELY FORM FROM KLGB TO KOXR AND CANNOT RULE OUT GETTING INTO KSBA (IN FACT THIS COULD BE ONE OF THOSE TIMES WHERE KSBA GETS THE CIGS AFTER SUNRISE. CLOUDS WILL BE MORE PATCHY IN THE VLYS. DUE TO WEAK INVERSION BURN OFF SHOULD OCCUR NEAR MID MORNING. KLAX...GOOD CONFIDENCE IN TAF CIGS WILL LIKELY ARRIVE WITH IN ONE HOUR OF FCST TIME AND BURN OFF TIME IS ALSO LIKELY WITH THE SAME ONE HOUR BLOCK. KBUR...ONLY FAIR CONFIDENCE IN TAF. THERE IS A 40 PERCENT CHANCE OF IFR CIGS AFTER 11Z. IF CIGS DO FORM THEY SHOULD DISSIPATE BY 16Z. && .LOX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY (SEE LAXMWWLOX). && $$ PUBLIC...KAPLAN/KITTELL AVIATION...ASR WWW.WEATHER.GOV/LOSANGELES