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"Questions and Answers with Stuart Berger, M.D."

Topic: Sudden Cardiac Death

Written by:

Stuart Berger, M.D.
Associate Professor of Pediatrics
Medical College of Wisconsin
Medical Director, The Heart Center
Children's Hospital of Wisconsin
U.S. 

Edited by: Mona Barmash

Posted: May 20, 2000


What is Sudden Cardiac Death? Long QT Syndrome
Adults with CHD Arrhythmias
Screening for Heart Defects and Arrhythmias     Blood Clots
Activity Level and Restrictions for children/adults with CHD Promoting Awareness of Sudden Cardiac Death

Q. What is Sudden Cardiac Death?

A. Sudden cardiac death (SCD) is an unexpected, sudden cardiac event that leads to death.  It is most likely to occur in a patient with an underlying cardiac abnormality, whether known or not, and is usually caused by an abnormal heart rhythm (arrhythmia).

Q.  I always had the impression that sudden death was not a problem for CHD patients. Was I deluding myself?

A. It is actually very unusual for this to be a problem. In this day and age with early repair, the heart is in better "shape" and suffers less from some of the things that are known to predispose people to arrhythmias. In addition, most of the conditions that predispose children to SCD are very rare.

Q. Which cardiac conditions are considered to be at-risk for SCD?

A. The general list includes: Cardiomyopathy, coronary artery abnormalities, Long QT Syndrome, ARVD (Arrhythmogenic Right Ventricular Dysplasia), Wolff-Parkinson-White Syndrome, myocarditis. Patients with Pulmonary Hypertension (Eisenmenger�s Syndrome) are also at risk.

Tetralogy patients with less than good repairs, with a lot of pulmonary valve leakage and prolonged RV (right ventricle) conduction delay are at risk of sudden death due to arrhythmias (Ventricular Tachycardia).

Q. Can uncontrolled arrhythmias lead to SCD?

A. They can, but it typically depends upon the type of arrhythmia, the ventricular function, as well as the underlying condition. I would say that nowadays, the majority of rhythm disturbances can be treated successfully to prevent SCD in the patient at risk.

Q.  Is SCD more common for patients who have problems with their hearts (such as enlargement or scar tissue from previous surgery)?

A. Generally speaking, SCD occurs only in those who have an underlying cardiac condition. The problem is that some patients never have signs or symptoms, and their first presentation may be with SCD.

Q. What about in adult patients?

A. I think the same holds true. As long as the repair and ventricular function are good, and there are no arrhythmias, the risk of SCD is low. There are indeed some types of repairs that are associated with late arrhythmias, but most are controllable.  These include patients who have had atrial switch operations (Mustard or Senning) and/or any patient with underlying cardiac dysfunction.

Q.  Are children/adults with repairs that don't fully fix a heart, like HLHS/Fontans, at higher risk for SCD? Is this why they have to do annual holters and have stress tests?

A.  In general children with fontan, regardless of what the original defect was are at risk for arrhythmias, and that is certainly why holters and ecgs are monitored closely in this group of patients. I think it is conceivable that if ventricular function is poor the arrhythmias may be more common.

Q. Can prolonged heat exposure or prolonged activity result in SCD, even when the child has a high O2 sat?

A. I am not aware of that being a problem.  One should use general good judgment.  If the parent is uncomfortable in the heat and humidity, more likely than not so will the child. 


Adults with CHD

Q. Is SCD a problem for ACHD'ers who were repaired later in life?

A. Generally not, although it depends on the specific defect(s) and on the "condition" of the heart. Please see the above for situations in which SCD may be a risk.

Q.  Should adult CHD patients routinely wear holter monitors to check for undetected arrhythmias?

A. Again, I think it depends on the specific repair that the patient has had. Most repairs are done successfully and the risk of arrhythmias is low. However, in some repaired defects, as discussed above, the risk may be higher. Those are the patients that may need to be watched more closely.

Q. In your experience in adult patients with complex congenital heart disease, is there a certain type of arrhythmia that is associated with SCD?  

A. Usually, either ventricular arrhythmias and/or atrial tachycardias with rapid conduction of impulses to the ventricles can be associated with SCD


Screening for Congenital Heart Defects and Arrhythmias

Q. How can we get our PC's to do echoes and EKG's on siblings of CHD kids, even if they don't have any symptoms? I know that it is costly but I'm willing to pay

A. This is a very difficult question. I think that the best thing to do is to talk with them and let them know of your concerns. Usually significant CHD can be ruled out by physical exam, but some things that may occur in families (such as Hypertrophic Cardiomyopathy, Long Q-T Syndrome, ARVD, etc.) may warrant further studies, so it does depend on the specific condition that you are trying to rule out.  Many of the other conditions present with symptoms and/or findings on physical examination that would appropriately guide further studies.

Q. If there were mandatory echoes or screening for cardiac conditions, could some of these SCD's be prevented in children? I just wonder if it couldn't help since most of this is asymptomatic. Can we potentially catch it when they are babies, or young toddlers?

A. I think that some but not all of the conditions could be ruled out with echoes. Some children would also require serial echoes in order to pick up some of these things.

Q. Do you think it is reasonable to have siblings of CHD children evaluated for cardiac problems even if they show no symptoms?

A.  It depends upon the defect being screened for.

Q. For which defects would you suggest that siblings be screened?

A. The defects that are familial should certainly be screened. Typically left heart obstructive lesions (such as aortic stenosis), hypertrophic cardiomyopathy (HCM), some forms of dilated cardiomyopathy, ARVD, LQTS, etc., are considered to be "familial"). I think that in many of the other cases, if there are no symptoms and no abnormalities on physical exam, they may not need to have further testing.


Activity Level and Restrictions for children/adults with CHD

Q. Many of us parents are told not to let our kids "push" themselves with physical activities - is it because of the possibility of SCD?

A. Well it's not very common at all, but there have been many such cases throughout the country recently. Generally, patients who have known congenital heart diseases that have been associated with activity related SCD should have their activity restricted.  This includes Hypertrophic Cardiomyopathy, LQTS, Dilated Cardiomyopathy, Marfan syndrome, etc.

Q. What precautions, if any, should a parent/patient take?

A. Exercise should be limited in patients at risk, as discussed above. In patients that are not at risk of SCD, there are not specific precautions that are necessary other than being allowed to rest when feeling tired. 


Long QT Syndrome

Q. What is the incidence of SCD in patients with Long QT Syndrome?

A.  It is relatively high if untreated, but we are learning that are several genetic subtypes of LQTS, and each one may have a little different risk than the other subtype.

Q. What are the sub-types?

A. I am honestly not sure that all of the subtypes have been worked out genetically yet. Jervell Lange Nielsen is one of the familial types of LQTS, and certainly, SCD risk associated with this is high if untreated.


Arrhythmias

Q. Is it true that you can see an arrhythmia develop after stress, when the body is "cooling down"?

A. I'm not sure that the "cooling down" process can cause arrhythmias. More likely it is entirely related to ventricular function and/or patients that have the anatomy and physiology known to be associated with arrhythmias.

Comment: But I know with LQTS that the syncope (fainting) can occur after the exercise, so it must be somehow related.

A. LQTS is a condition in which the arrhythmia is thought to be catecholamine driven, that is, it is thought to be associated with exercise, fright, etc. There is no doubt that exercise can make someone prone to arrhythmias and SCD in patients that have an underlying condition that puts them at risk.


Blood Clots

Q. How often have you heard of a CHD child dying suddenly due to a blood clot? In particular, kids with HLHS that are pre-fontan. Also, what's the general feeling on putting these kids on aspirin or blood thinners? How effective is aspirin?

A. I can't say that SCD due to a clot in a patient with CHD is very common. Many centers place children on aspirin or coumadin, but the practice is not uniform.  Studies are underway to answer this question.


Promoting Awareness of Sudden Cardiac Death

Q. I have started a support group, and I'm trying to raise awareness about SCD. When speaking to teachers, what should we tell them, other than obviously listen to the kids?

A.  I think it's very important that teachers, coaches, etc., be trained in CPR. We are also in the midst of a project in Wisconsin to try and get AED's (automatic external defibrillators) into all of the high schools.

Q. Is there anyway to treat these kids while it's happening before it's too late?  If a child were to collapse, is there something that can be done before they stop breathing... are declared dead?

A. The only therapy that we know of is CPR and defibrillation.

Q. What are the symptoms to be watchful for?

A. Fainting during exercise, chest pain with exertion, shortness of breath, palpitations, and syncope (fainting) in general.

Q. What can be done about kids that are experiencing SCD on the playground without any prior symptoms?

A. Know what one can do for intervention! There are some children who will present with SCD without ever having symptoms.  A subset of these children may not be detected with screening. Therefore, know how to do CPR and how to activate the EMS system.  Typically this involves being sure that one knows how to activate the local 911system.

We are trying to emphasize the importance of screening, including detailed history and family history. Although many children have no symptoms, some may actually have symptoms that they are denying. That is why symptom awareness is critical. Lastly, we feel that it is important for people in the school to be well versed in CPR, and to have access to defibrillators. Though this is certainly controversial, we feel that it has the potential to save the lives of children and adults.


This article was reviewed prior to publication by:

Richard Donner, M.D.
Adult Congenital Heart Program
The Children's Hospital of Philadelphia

William Moskowitz, M.D.
Director of Pediatric Cardiac Catheterization Laboratory
Director of Pediatric Heart / Lung Transplantation
Virginia Commonwealth University
Medical College of Virginia
Richmond, VA 


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