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Congressional Testimony

Testimony of Ann L. Combs Before the Subcommittee on Employer-Employee Relations, Committee on Education and the Workforce
July 17, 2001

Chairman Johnson and distinguished members of the subcommittee, I am Ann L. Combs, Assistant Secretary for Pension and Welfare Benefits at the U.S. Department of Labor. The Pension and Welfare Benefits Administration is the agency responsible for administering and enforcing Title I of the Employee Retirement Income Security Act - ERISA, the primary Federal statute governing employment-based pension, group health and other welfare benefit plans.

I appreciate the opportunity to testify before you today on H.R. 2269, the Retirement Security Advice Act of 2001.  At the outset, I want to commend you Mr. Chairman for scheduling this important hearing and thank Chairman Boehner for his commitment and leadership in seeking to ensure that working Americans have the advice they need to enable them to plan for a secure retirement.

The department is very serious about its responsibility to protect plan assets from abuse. We believe the bill creates a strong, protective framework for the provision of investment advice to participants and look forward to working with you and all interested parties in achieving its important goal.

Meaningful comprehensive investment advice is more important now than it has ever been because of the increasing numbers of workers who have the responsibility for the investment of their pension plan assets. Their retirement security will depend, in large part, on how wisely they exercise this responsibility.

A recent (July 9, 2001) lead article in the New York Times, which discusses a report that documents recent losses suffered by 401(k) plans, also makes this point. The article cites financial planners and plan administrators in stating that "many people . . . put too much into a single aggressive mutual fund or their own company's stock." The article also cites a UCLA professor who states that "people are not doing a good job of picking portfolios." Clearly, these observations underscore the need participants have for high quality, professional investment advice. The work of this Committee in seeking to solve this problem could not come at a more opportune time.

Secretary Chao has said that "to succeed in the 21st Century, our Nation must be prepared to adapt to changes in our economy. We cannot and must not simply react to changes. We must anticipate them, thus helping all workers to have as fulfilling and financially rewarding careers as they aspire to have." The Secretary believes we must apply this principle to preparing for retirement. The workforce of the 21st Century must have the opportunity for a fulfilling and financially secure retirement.

As part of the profound changes in the workplace, there have been profound changes in the design of the pension benefit plans that our mobile workforce prefers, generally giving workers more choice and responsibility for their retirement savings. When Congress enacted ERISA in 1974, employers used traditional defined benefit plans as the primary vehicle for providing pension benefits. As you know, under defined benefit plans, investment decisions generally are the responsibility of professional investment managers, and employees play no role in the selection or monitoring of plan investments.

Today, we estimate that over four fifths of all pension-covered workers -- an estimated 43 million workers -- are enrolled in defined contribution plans, either as a supplemental plan or their primary plan. A large majority of these plans are 401(k) plans in which participants are responsible for directing the investment of their accounts among a number of choices provided by the plan. With 401(k) plans holding an estimated $1.7 trillion, and many providing more than 10 investment options from which to choose, the importance of providing participants with assistance in making informed and appropriate investment decisions cannot be overstated.

The increasing variety of factors outside the pension plan and the workplace that need to be considered when planning for retirement further emphasize the importance of enabling participants to effectively tailor their investment strategies to their individual circumstances. Many households have two wage earners and hold investments other than in their 401(k) plans. Formulating an appropriate course of action that takes into account other pension plans, savings outside pension plans, and ongoing financial obligations like college tuition, is an extremely complex endeavor, and increases the necessity for, and the value of, investment advice.

In 1974, the drafters of ERISA could not have anticipated these developments since 401(k) plans did not become widespread until the early 1980s. They created a legal framework that was consistent with the then-typical structure of employer created plans with assets managed by investment professionals who have a fiduciary responsibility to the plan. This structure does not translate well into advice relationships with individual participants.

Because the original statute did not contemplate the need for a means to provide investment advice efficiently to individuals, we support amendments to ERISA to accomplish this result. The sponsors of the Retirement Security Advice Act are to be commended for recognizing this need.

Need for Advice

Today's 401(k) type plan participant faces choices and challenges unknown to the participant of 20 years ago. Indeed, many are afforded the virtually unlimited opportunity to invest - through open brokerage accounts - in almost any security available in the marketplace.

It is no longer only financial professionals that need to know the principles of investment and asset allocation. Now that plan participants have been put in charge of investing the assets in their own accounts, they must be provided with the means for making appropriate decisions. These decisions will determine, to a great extent, the returns earned by their accounts, and, therefore, their security and standard of living during retirement.

Many employees simply are not sophisticated enough when it comes to risk/return strategies, asset allocation and other such investment tools. Further, many do not have the inclination, the time or the expertise to follow investment trends and market movements in today's fast paced global economy. As you know, today's workers lead busy lives, and many desire professional assistance with these critically important retirement decisions.

The department sought to address this need by providing guidance in 1996 concerning the distinction between investment education and investment advice. The distinction being that investment advice gives rise to fiduciary responsibility under ERISA, while the provision of investment education does not. The 1996 interpretive bulletin provides guidance to investment advisers and employers showing how to provide educational investment information and analysis to participants without becoming a fiduciary under ERISA. However, in view of what is at stake, many 401(k) plan participants, even with investment education tools available, desire personally tailored advice. Investment education, while important, is simply not enough.

The cost of professional investment advice is, of course, a major deterrent. While some plan participants can and do engage their own financial advisers, the average participant is unlikely to be in a position to do so. Pension plans can generally purchase advice on more favorable economic terms than individuals, and plan sponsors can select advisors to provide the appropriate level and type of advice for their plan population.

Employer Liability

Most employers are not in the business of providing financial services. Yet they understand that the decision of whether and how to provide advice is a fiduciary action under ERISA. Therefore, it is reasonable to expect them to proceed with considerable caution.

Many employers express concerns regarding the appointment of an advisor for their plan participants for fear of assuming fiduciary liability for the advisor's actual individual recommendations. Some have expressed the fear that their responsibility could extend to monitoring every recommendation given to every participant. Unless we satisfactorily address these and other employer issues, they will inevitably refrain from making advice available, regardless of any other steps we may take. The department's 1996 guidance sought to allay these fears, but a conforming statutory amendment would serve to provide the certainty employers seek.

The Exemption Process

The exemption process enables the Department of Labor to provide relief from the application of ERISA's very broad prohibited transactions provisions. In order to grant an exemption, the department must find that a transaction is in the interest of, and protective of, the participants and beneficiaries of the plan, after providing interested parties the opportunity to comment on a proposed exemption.

The exemption process comes into play in the advice area because ERISA prohibits fiduciary investment advisors from engaging in transactions with clients' plans where they have a conflict of interest. As a result, investment advisors cannot provide specific investment advice to 401(k) participants about their own firm's investment products without a prohibited transaction exemption from the department.

Given the growing integration of the financial services industry, and the desire of many employers to deal with one provider for all 401(k) services, many advisors are in a position of having to come to the department for a prohibited transaction exemption if they want to offer advice. In the past the department has granted several exemptions in this area conditioned on fairly specific structural limitations. The requirements imposed have been criticized by some investment industry representatives as making little economic sense and as intrusive into the relationship between the advisor and the participant.

I am presently conducting a review of agency policy in this area, as well a review of the process, principles and philosophies that govern the process of obtaining an exemption. I believe that significant improvements are possible in this area without compromising the important protections afforded to plans and their participants. In all transactions, we need to develop a common sense approach that protects participants but is flexible enough to allow for competition and innovation. This review will be completed this fall.

I believe however, that the current situation of unaffiliated advisors with no need for exemption, some affiliated advisors with an exemption, and the rest prohibited from providing advice has created a situation that is disadvantageous to participants.

Advisors who have affiliations with investment products, and who seek an exemption from the department also are at a competitive disadvantage. The time it takes to receive an exemption and the conditions imposed by the department have meant that affiliated providers often cannot be at the forefront of any market innovations, resulting in fewer choices available to participants and beneficiaries. I do not believe that individual prohibited transaction exemptions are the best way of addressing this problem.

H.R. 2269, the Retirement Security Advice Act of 2001

The Retirement Security Advice Act recognizes that, in many cases, the plan will be a participant's only source of investment advice. The bill would afford average plan participants access to "fiduciary advisers" who are regulated by Federal or state authorities. It would provide extensive information to participants about fees, relationships that may give rise to conflicts of interests, and limitations on the scope of advice to be provided. We believe these and other protections in the bill create a basic framework for assuring that advice is fairly provided and would welcome the opportunity to work with the Committee to ensure that these protections are adequate.

The bill also recognizes that employers are understandably concerned about their roles in selecting and monitoring investment advisers for their plan participants. The bill specifically defines the scope of the fiduciary review function to be undertaken by the employer in this regard. It clarifies that such duties do not extend to monitoring the specific advice given by the fiduciary adviser to any particular participant. We believe such clarification will lead to the broader availability of participant investment advice.

Legislation like the Advice bill will bring flexibility to the area by setting forth rules for all affiliated investment advisors. The Advice bill will also place affiliated advisors on a more equal competitive footing with non-affiliated advisors, will foster competition among firms, and promote lower costs to participants.

Conclusion

We fully support your efforts to deal with this important issue and seek the same objectives as those proposed by your bill - strong protections and certainty for participants, employers and service providers, a level playing field, greater choice among advisers and the expansion of needed investment advice for participants and beneficiaries in 401(k) type plans. We would like to work with you further on other aspects of the bill that go beyond the provision of investment advice to participants and beneficiaries. Once again, we commend the Committee for its leadership and we look forward to working with you and your staff on this important legislation.

Thank you again, Mr. Chairman, for the opportunity to present our views on this important legislation. I will be pleased to answer any questions you or any members of the subcommittee may have.

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