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This is a transcript of the on-line chat held on Thursday, March 31, 2005. This final version is an edited version of the actual transcript. Where you see “edited answer” below, the original on-line chat answer has been modified to ensure completeness and accuracy of the answers originally provided by USPTO staff.

As in our previous chats held so far, we received hundreds more questions then we had time to answer. We selected questions for posting which we believed would be of interest to others besides the author of the question. Once we selected the question, we developed the answer, and then posted the question and the answer for viewing by the public. During the actual chat, occasionally the answer was actually posted before the public saw the question. This edited transcript always has the question before the answer. In reviewing the transcript below, if you see the time of the answer before the time of the question, we originally posted them out of sequence.


USPTO Expert2 (Mar 31, 2005 2:07:02 PM)
Welcome to the On-Line Chat. We will begin promptly at 2:00. Transcripts from our previous chats are available at http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/com/iip/onlineiip.htm. You may want to review prior to the start of our chat.

Guest (Mar 31, 2005 2:13:53 PM)
Hi, Trademark question: do you have a similar class registration system as they do in Europe? i.e. say I registered JAMES as the name of a drink could somebody come and register it in another class as they can in Europe?

USPTO Expert3 (Mar 31, 2005 2:13:55 PM)
We use the Nice Classification system in the US as they do in Europe and in many other countries in the world. However, classification does not control one's right. The actual language of the goods or services in the registration defines the parameters of the scope of protection of a registration. Therefore, in the US, a similar mark could register in more than one class or even in the same class if the goods or services are different enough to avoid confusion in the marketplace.

red (Mar 31, 2005 2:14:19 PM)
what is the web site to get patent forms to file for a provisional patent forms

USPTO Expert2
(Mar 31, 2005 2:14:21 PM)
The provisional application cover sheet is available on our web site at http://www.uspto.gov/web/forms/index.html, scroll down to PTO/SB/16.

Guest (Mar 31, 2005 2:16:00 PM)
if i am combining two current patented items and adding my ideas to them,to come up with a new unique item,can i use drawings and descriptions from their patents with my ideas for a new patent?

USPTO Expert (Mar 31, 2005 2:16:19 PM)
Yes. You can use drawings and descriptions of other inventions. You must clearly identify the subject matter as the invention by another and label the drawings "Prior Art".

KJ (Mar 31, 2005 2:17:15 PM)
What is the safest method for searching the patent database and can a prospective inventor do it efficiently.

USPTO Expert2 (Mar 31, 2005 2:18:55 PM)
KJ - From the USPTO homepage, http://www.uspto.gov/, click on "How to Search" on the top black and blue bar. On the blue box for searching patents click on "How to search for patents at a PTDL" to pull up the 7-Step strategy which can be done on-line as well as at a PTDL.

Amar (Mar 31, 2005 2:19:24 PM)
Are there any current (or proposed future) options to file for patent applications electronically?

USPTO Expert2 (Mar 31, 2005 2:20:45 PM)
Amar - You can currently file electronically. Please visit our web site, at http://www.uspto.gov/ebc/efs/index.html for details on how to file electronically.

apple (Mar 31, 2005 2:23:16 PM)
Which is the mail stop for sending the new non-provisional utility patent?

USPTO Expert2 (Mar 31, 2005 2:23:17 PM)
Our mailing addresses are located at http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/com/sol/og/patboxs.htm

Gaddock (Mar 31, 2005 2:23:38 PM)
If I registered a Trademark for 'QWERTY' that sells 'qwerties'. And then find somebody else has the Internet domain www.qwerty.com and is also selling 'qwerties'. Can I stop them from using that Internet domain?

USPTO Expert3 (Mar 31, 2005 2:23:39 PM)
You may have some recourse against the later domain name user. You should consult the Domain Name Resolution Policy. I'm sorry I don't have a link for that but you should be able to find references for it on the web if you do a comprehensive search on a good search engine.

Popcorn (Mar 31, 2005 2:25:06 PM)
Can a patent be filed jointly by two or more persons

USPTO Expert2 (Mar 31, 2005 2:25:25 PM) (EDITED ANSWER)
Popcorn- Yes, please see 37 CFR 1.45 for detailed information about joint inventors, http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/pac/mpep/consolidated_rules.pdf

betty (Mar 31, 2005 2:26:20 PM)
under what circumstances would you file for a provisional patent vs. a utility patent. (advantages) My product is sports apparel based.

USPTO Expert (Mar 31, 2005 2:27:18 PM)
A provisional application cannot become a patent and it will automatically be abandoned 12 month after its filing date. If you filed a provisional application and you want a patent, you will have to file a non-provisional application within 12 months from the filing date of the provisional application referencing the provisional application. A non-provisional application can become a patent and is the mechanism to provide actual patent protection. See http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/pac/provapp.htm for additional information about provisional application and http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/pac/utility/utility.htm for additional information about utility applications.

Eric (Mar 31, 2005 2:28:12 PM)
I'Ve seen the fee's for application fee, search fee and examination fee, what other fee's am I missing for a design thats one page in description and design.

USPTO Expert3 (Mar 31, 2005 2:29:06 PM)
There are no other fees required to file a design application. An additional fee will be required upon issue.

bobcat (Mar 31, 2005 2:30:33 PM)
What happens to a PPA after it has been abandoned?

USPTO Expert2 (Mar 31, 2005 2:31:00 PM)
Bobcat - The files are disposed of after one year from the filing date.

PeterK (Mar 31, 2005 2:32:29 PM)
Are there any restrictions from trademarking a product name that contains Spanish words?

USPTO Expert3 (Mar 31, 2005 2:32:37 PM) (EDITED ANSWER))
Peter K - The same laws and rules apply to marks in languages other than English. Other than those requirements, a non-English mark would have to be translated for the record.

Guest (Mar 31, 2005 2:32:46 PM)
how long does it take to get a patent search done?

USPTO Expert2 (Mar 31, 2005 2:33:24 PM) (EDITED ANSWER)
Stacey – Unless a patent application is filed, the Office does not conduct patent searches for the public. There are private search firms which can provide this service (we do not regulate their fees). However, you can conduct your own search via our web site or at a Patent and Trademark Depository Library.

Jimmy Newtron (Mar 31, 2005 2:34:36 PM)
How long does a patent last?

USPTO Expert (Mar 31, 2005 2:34:38 PM) (EDITED ANSWER)
Utility patent protection is approximately 20 years from the filing date of the application. Design patent protection is 14 years from the issue date.

water (Mar 31, 2005 2:35:56 PM)
what is the design application fee?

USPTO Expert (Mar 31, 2005 2:37:00 PM) (EDITED ANSWER)
The basic fee for filing a design application by a large entity is $200; small entity is $100.

Guest (Mar 31, 2005 2:37:30 PM)
What options do you have once you have recieved a final office action - other than file a notice of appeal?

USPTO Expert (Mar 31, 2005 2:39:41 PM)
You may file a request for continued examination (RCE) under 37 CFR 1.114. An RCE requires the payment of a fee and a submission, which may be an amendment or arguments. You may also further amend your application or request reconsideration, but the examiner may refuse to enter amendments after final if they raise new issues which were not raised previously.

Guest (Mar 31, 2005 2:40:07 PM)
How do I know that my invention isn’t going to be stolen during the application process for a patent? Can I trust an attorney? Can I apply for a patent without an attorney? What are the risks when I do that?

USPTO Expert2 (Mar 31, 2005 2:41:26 PM) (EDITED ANSWER)
All patent applications that have not been published are kept in confidence by USPTO personnel. An attorney in your employ must keep your confidences and secrets. You can apply for an application without an attorney, however, patents are legal documents and the use of a registered patent attorney/agent is strongly encouraged.

bobcat (Mar 31, 2005 2:41:35 PM)
I found an old patent (1927) that only came up when I entered the patent number but not when I entered the subject or Inventor's name. Is that a common problem?

USPTO Expert (Mar 31, 2005 2:41:40 PM)
Bob-Cat, Old patents are not searchable by text. Only those patents that have issued since 1976 to date can be searched by text.

Guest (Mar 31, 2005 2:42:24 PM)
what is the difference between a design appl and a patent appl

USPTO Expert3 (Mar 31, 2005 2:42:26 PM)
fudge - A design patent protects only the appearance of an article. A utility patent protects the way an invention works. The applications are somewhat different.

apple (Mar 31, 2005 2:42:55 PM)
Which is the mail stop for sending the new non-provisional utility patent?

USPTO Expert2 (Mar 31, 2005 2:43:04 PM) (EDITED ANSWER)
Apple - There is no specific mail stop send to: Commissioner for Patents P.O. Box 1450 Alexandria, VA 22313-1450. For information regarding mail stop, see http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/com/sol/og/patboxs.htm

jenny (Mar 31, 2005 2:43:59 PM)
What is a disclaimer and why is it used?

USPTO Expert2 (Mar 31, 2005 2:44:29 PM) (EDITED ANSWER)
A disclaimer is a statement filed by an owner (of an undivided part interest or of the entire interest) of a patent or of a patent to be granted (i.e., an application), in which the owner relinquishes certain legal rights to the patent.
There are generally two types of disclaimers: a statutory disclaimer and a
terminal disclaimer.

Statutory Disclaimers:
Under 37 CFR 1.321(a) the owner of a patent may disclaim a complete claim or claims of his or her patent. This may result from a lawsuit or because he or she has reason to believe that the claim or claims are too broad or otherwise invalid. A statutory disclaimer is not, however, a vehicle for adding or amending claims, since there is no provision for such in the statute (35 U.S.C. 253) nor the rules (37 CFR 1.321). Thus, claims of a patent cannot be disclaimed in favor of new claims to be added to the patent or an amendment to existing claims.
The following link will provide you with a form for disclaimers under 1.321(a):
http://www.uspto.gov/web/forms/sb0043.pdf

Terminal Disclaimers:
37 CFR 1.321(a) also provides for the filing by an applicant or patentee of a terminal disclaimer which disclaims or dedicates to the public the entire term or any portion of the term of a patent or patent to be granted.
37 CFR 1.321(c) specifically provides for the filing of a terminal disclaimer in an
application or a reexamination proceeding for the purpose of overcoming a judicially created double patenting rejection. See MPEP § 804.02 at the following link: (http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/pac/mpep/documents/0800_804_02.htm - sect804.02)
This link will provide you with a form that can be used to file a terminal disclaimer to overcome an obviousness-type double patenting rejection:
http://www.uspto.gov/web/forms/sb0026_fill.pdf

For more on Disclaimers, please see the Manual of Patent Examining procedure (MPEP) Chapter 1490 (see link below):
http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/pac/mpep/documents/1400_1490.htm - sect1490

water (Mar 31, 2005 2:45:16 PM)
is the uspto expert available after today?

USPTO Expert2 (Mar 31, 2005 2:45:45 PM)
We do have experts available to answer your questions at our Inventors Assistance Center, call 1-800-786-9199/

Wicker (Mar 31, 2005 2:46:21 PM)
I have a product patent and a processs patent. Can I do both on 1 application??

USPTO Expert (Mar 31, 2005 2:46:23 PM) (EDITED ANSWER)
Wicker, Yes you may file a single application claiming both a product and a process. The examiner may require you to elect one invention for examination. You may then file a divisional application claiming the non-elected invention.

Carm (Mar 31, 2005 2:48:29 PM)
Once a utility patent is filed, will the inventor be allowed access to examiner notes (e.g., patentability reports, search criteria, etc.) contained in the file wrapper at any time?

USPTO Expert3 (Mar 31, 2005 2:48:54 PM) (EDITED ANSWER)
Carm - an applicant may access the entire file through Private PAIR. See the Electronic Business Center on our web page on how to use this feature. http://www.uspto.gov/main/faq/p120pair016.htm

John50 (Mar 31, 2005 2:48:59 PM)
my last name on my patent certificate is incorrect. is there any way i can submit the proper spelling and get a new certificate. thanks.
USPTO Expert (Mar 31, 2005 2:49:01 PM) (EDITED ANSWER) John50, Yes you may file a request for a certificate of correction. The patent, however, will not be reprinted. See http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/pac/doc/general/correct.htm

Guest (Mar 31, 2005 2:50:55 PM)
Can I apply for a design and utility patent for the same product or is this overkill?

USPTO Expert3
(Mar 31, 2005 2:51:48 PM)
Yes, you can apply for both patents. A utility patent protects a new, useful, nonobvious and adequately discussed machine, manufacture, composition of matter, process, or improvement thereof. On the other hand, a design patent protects only the appearance of an article of manufacture, not the way the article functions or the materials of its manufacture. A better mousetrap could function (work) exactly like the mousetrap of old, but have a different appearance; it would then be appropriate for a design application. If, however, it had a new function in a way it trapped mice, it could also be appropriate for a utility application.

kb (Mar 31, 2005 2:53:07 PM)
If a provisional application is filed does the non-provisional have to match exactly or can additional information be included in the non-provisional application.

USPTO Expert (Mar 31, 2005 2:53:28 PM)
kb, Yes a non-provisional application may add additional subject matter, but the new subject matter may not be entitled to the earlier filing date of the provisional application.

Gaddock (Mar 31, 2005 2:54:02 PM)
I want to register a 'name' that is to be used as a 'Brand Name' so to speak. I want to have many products with this name on it from factories I contract to manufacture the products. Would a Trademark be appropriate for this? or is there another method better used for protecting the name?

USPTO Expert3 (Mar 31, 2005 2:54:23 PM)
Yes that would be the appropriate thing to do.

Jimmy Newtron (Mar 31, 2005 2:54:44 PM)
Does the USPTO have published standards to determine patentability?

USPTO Expert2 (Mar 31, 2005 2:54:46 PM)
Jimmy Neutron - Patentability is based on statutory law and case law. See 35 USC sections 101, 102, 103 and 112. Title 37 of the Federal Register sets forth the Patent Rules see http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/pac/mpep/consolidated_rules.pdf Further, the Manual of Patent Examination Procedures sets forth guidelines for examination, see in particular Chapter 700 and 2100, http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/pac/mpep/mpep_e8r2_2100_508.pdf

Ralph (Mar 31, 2005 2:55:18 PM)
I patented and sold a version of my invention to a distributor for resale to the public. A few days later a patent was filed and has since issued. The patent appears to cover the version of my invention. Can the reciept (1099) of my sale to the distributor be used as prior art if I request a reexamination of the patent?

USPTO Expert2 (Mar 31, 2005 2:56:07 PM)
If the invention was not in public use or sale in this country more than one year before the filing for your invention it will not be used as prior art.

ERMERTC (Mar 31, 2005 2:57:33 PM)
IS IT POSSIBLE TO VIEW PRE PATENT ITEMS ON YOUR WEBSITE?

USPTO Expert2 (Mar 31, 2005 2:58:20 PM)
Applications published 18 months after the filing date are available for viewing on our web site. Go to http://www.uspto.gov/patft/index.html

ron (Mar 31, 2005 2:58:44 PM)
How long will it be. My patent application was published about a year ago.

USPTO Expert (Mar 31, 2005 2:58:45 PM)
Ron, The length of time will depend on the specific technology. It generally takes about 18 months to receive a first office action from the patent examiner. Some technologies are experiencing backlogs and therefore it may take longer. On average it takes about 27 months for a patent to issue after it is filed.

KT (Mar 31, 2005 2:59:14 PM)
Hi, i'm getting ready to launch a line of greeting cards based on a theme. If I plan to expand that line to include other items do I need to apply for those items separately or can they be included under the registered name of the card line?

USPTO Expert3 (Mar 31, 2005 2:59:21 PM)
If the mark for the cards is already registered, you cannot add goods or services to that existing registration. You would have to file a new registration for the expansion of goods. If you have not yet applied to register the mark for the cards, you can include whatever goods or services on which you intend to use the mark in the same application.

culb (Mar 31, 2005 3:00:11 PM)
What criteria do you use to determine if a patent application should be divided into two or more separate patent applications?

USPTO Expert2 (Mar 31, 2005 3:00:51 PM) (EDITED ANSWER)
Restriction, a generic term, includes (1)the practice of requiring an election between distinct inventions, for example, election between combination and subcombination inventions, and (2)the practice of requiring an election between independent inventions. Independent inventors means the inventor has no disclosed relationship. They are unconnected in design, operation or effect.
The basis for restriction is found in the following statute and rules:
35 U.S.C. 121
If two or more independent and distinct inventions are claimed in one application, the Director may require the application to be restricted to one of the inventions. If the other invention is made the subject of a divisional application which complies with the requirements of section 120 of this title it shall be entitled to the benefit of the filing date of the original application. A patent issuing on an application with respect to which a requirement for restriction under this section has been made, or on an application filed as a result of such a requirement, shall not be used as a reference either in the Patent and Trademark Office or in the courts against a divisional application or against the original application or any patent issued on either of them, if the divisional application is filed before the issuance of the patent on the other application. If a divisional application is directed solely to subject matter described and claimed in the original application as filed, the Director may dispense with signing and execution by the inventor. The validity of a patent shall not be questioned for failure of the Director to require the application to be restricted to one invention.
37 CFR 1.141
(a) Two or more independent and distinct inventions may not be claimed in one national application, except that more than one species of an invention, not to exceed a reasonable number, may be specifically claimed in different claims in one national application, provided the application also includes an allowable claim generic to all the claimed species and all the claims to species in excess of one are written in dependent form or otherwise include all the limitations of the generic claim.
(b) Where claims to all three categories, product, process of making, and process of use, are included in a national application, a three way requirement for restriction can only be made where the process of making is distinct from the product. If the process of making and the product are not distinct, the process of using may be joined with the claims directed to the product and the process of making the product even though a showing of distinctness between the product and process of using the product can be made.
You can read more about restriction and species requirements by consulting the MPEP at http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/pac/mpep/mpep.htm on our website. The chapter to read is MPEP 800.

apple (Mar 31, 2005 3:02:17 PM)
Can you please tell which forms are used for the Fee Transmittal, Patent Application Transmittal Letter, Patent Application Declaration? Thanks.

USPTO Expert2 (Mar 31, 2005 3:02:39 PM)
Apple - all our forms are available on our web site at, http://www.uspto.gov/web/forms/index.html

Larry (Mar 31, 2005 3:03:19 PM)
Can you file several provisional patents and then claim the benefit of all of them in one regular patent application, before the one year term ?

USPTO Expert (Mar 31, 2005 3:03:38 PM) (EDITED ANSWER)
Yes, you may. The non-provisional application must be filed within 1 year of the earliest field non-provisional application.

Popcorn (Mar 31, 2005 3:04:09 PM)
When does a patent application become available for public review

USPTO Expert (Mar 31, 2005 3:04:42 PM) (EDITED ANSWER)
Popcorn, It becomes available when the application is published, generally 18 months from the earliest filing date claimed.

Tami (Mar 31, 2005 3:06:39 PM)
When will the transcripts be available?

USPTO Expert2 (Mar 31, 2005 3:07:23 PM)
Transcripts are posted within about a week, previous chats posted at http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/com/iip/transcripts.htm

smudge (Mar 31, 2005 3:07:29 PM)
How are characters like a hypen treated in a tradmark. For example if "i-name" is registered could I register "iname"

USPTO Expert3 (Mar 31, 2005 3:07:31 PM)
The pronunciation of the trademark is the most controlling factor. So whether or not similar marks have dashes separating elements of one or the other mark wouldn't make much difference in deciding whether there would be a likelihood of confusion in the market place.

water (Mar 31, 2005 3:08:16 PM)
have you hear of the invention company that help people patent their idea? are they reliable or they are there to get your money?

USPTO Expert2 (Mar 31, 2005 3:09:40 PM)
Our office cannot tell you whether a company is reliable or not, we do however, post complaints we receive from the public at http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/com/iip/complaints.htm. Additional information you should be aware before you do business with any invention promotion firm is available at http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/com/iip/documents/scamprevent.pdf

Popcorn (Mar 31, 2005 3:09:55 PM)
If a patent is not approved by USPTO does it become available for public review

USPTO Expert (Mar 31, 2005 3:10:06 PM) (EDITED ANSWER)
The short answer is patent applications that are abandoned and are not claimed or referred to in another issued or published application are not made publicly available. However, 37 CFR 1.14 explains in greater detail, see http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/pac/mpep/consolidated_rules.pdf

Tami (Mar 31, 2005 3:10:14 PM)
As the sole inventor, do I quality as a small entity?

USPTO Expert3 (Mar 31, 2005 3:11:10 PM)
Tami - Yes, a sole inventor is a small entity.

excell (Mar 31, 2005 3:11:27 PM)
Where is there an office in Los Angeles

USPTO Expert2 (Mar 31, 2005 3:12:19 PM) (EDITED ANSWER)
There is only one US Patent and Trademark Office and it is located in Alexandria, VA. However, patent and trademark information is available at locations throughout the United States. To located the Library in Los Angeles go to http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/ac/ido/ptdl/index.html

Cia (Mar 31, 2005 3:12:41 PM)
We are in the process of developing a TV serial with my name as the title of the show, how can we protect that name in connection to the show title and to merchandising products?

USPTO Expert3 (Mar 31, 2005 3:13:10 PM)
It can be registered as a trademark for both the show and the related merchandising products.

Cia (Mar 31, 2005 3:14:17 PM)
2. Which is the best to file right away, a trademark, a service mark or an intent to use the service mark and/or the trademark?

USPTO Expert3 (Mar 31, 2005 3:14:32 PM)
You can file them all at the same time. There's no order requirement or advantage.

USPTO Expert2 (Mar 31, 2005 3:15:45 PM)
Thank you everyone for participating today in our chat. As usually there are many more questions than we have time to answer. If your question wasn't answered you can contact the Inventors Assistance Center at 1-800-786-9199. Thanks and good-bye

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