Return-Path: <nifl-povracelit@literacy.nifl.gov> Received: from literacy (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by literacy.nifl.gov (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id f7NLMWf20957; Thu, 23 Aug 2001 17:22:33 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 17:22:33 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3B857269.B213F000@strato.net> Errors-To: listowner@literacy.nifl.gov Reply-To: nifl-povracelit@literacy.nifl.gov Originator: nifl-povracelit@literacy.nifl.gov Sender: nifl-povracelit@literacy.nifl.gov Precedence: bulk From: hforster <hforster@strato.net> To: Multiple recipients of list <nifl-povracelit@literacy.nifl.gov> Subject: [NIFL-POVRACELIT:573] Re: Habermas & Internet X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0c -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win98; I) Status: O Content-Length: 3277 Lines: 88 George Thank you very much for this lead. One of the reasons I have followed you in the various lists is because of my interest in understanding community building and communicative action in the internet. This is a very interesting subject and one I hope there will be follow-up to. If you plan to discuss this elsewhere pleas let me know. I am not now in my office where my notes and materials are, but I look forward to this subject, Thanks again Harry Forster "GEORGE E. DEMETRION" wrote: > Colleagues: > > I am dforwarding this from the Habermas list. Jurgen Habermas is a major > contemporary social philosopher. Perhaps this will be of interest to > some. > > I do wonder if the inmternet does provide such hope as the writer > suggests. > > I think there's something there, though it's all in the use. > > What do others think? > > George Demetrion > ___________________________________________________- > > >To whom it may have concerned - > > > >Recently a post broached issues to do with JH and the Internet. I > thought > >some of JH's closing comments in his reply in Craig Calhoun's (Ed) > >collection of essays of the _Structural Transformation of the Public > >Sphere_>were relevant here. > > Yes, that was me, I am busy following all the helpful leads provided by > the > readers of this list, thanks to all, esp. to the person who pointed out > Antje Gimmler's article, 'Deliberative Democracy, the Public Sphere and > the > Internet' in Philosophy and Social Criticism (Vol 27 #4 2001). > > I have some preliminary ideas but I will try to put together a coherent > post > on this topic at a later date. For now I will say that although > Habermas's > Structural Transformation laments the decline of the public sphere he > reminds us of the existence of a glimmer of optimism in Calhoun ed., > Habermas and the Public Sphere (p.441) when he says (in STotPS), > > 'it is necessary to demonstrate how it may be possible, in out type of > society, for "the public...to set in motion a critical process of public > communication through the very organisations that mediatize it" (STotPS > p.232) > > I take this to be a call to appropriate the weapons of colonisation, > (perhaps best exemplified in this case by the technical capabilities of > computer mediated communication) and use them to rejuvante a still > declining > public sphere, reviving, in the process, civil society and participatory > democracy. > > In this I have allies in Arato and Cohen's 'Civil Society and Political > Theory'. It seems to me (though there is very little literature to > support > this) that the internet fits (with problems that will be addressed) into > the > theoretical framework of communicative action and appears to be a very > 'live' issue especially when we consider the democratic effectiveness of > the > internet has yet to be adequately exploited and will be affected by the > economic and political imperatives that seek to appropriate it for > themselves. > > I would welcome any thoughts on this subject and thank again all who > responded to my original post. > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > --- from list habermas@lists.village.virginia.edu --- > --------- End forwarded message ----------
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