Hi Andrea: This is interesting. You noted that the root of andragogy is
'male'. But pedagogy also has a root--' child' , like pediatrician -
(doctor for a child). As an adult educator, how do you reconcile that?
Winston

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Subject: [FocusOnBasics 412] Re: pedagogy/andragogy

I'm being picky--"androgogy"'s root is andr = male.  Personally, I 
avoid this word.

It was coined, I believe by an adult educator whose name I have 
temporarily forgotten--but someone else will know, I am sure.

Pedagogy in my pea-sized brain mesns teaching, or the art of teaching.  
I use this word.

Andrea


On Jul 11, 2006, at 4:30 PM, Tracy Rosen wrote:


> Hi everyone - my name is Tracy, I also was trained in k-12 but have 

> worked

> with adults as well. I am presently finishing my MA in human systems

> intervention at Concordia University and am going to begin a new 

> position in

> a few weeks at BJEC (the Bronfman Jewish Education Centre) as the 

> special

> education coordinator for the schools in the Jewish education system

in

> Montreal.

> Nice to meet you all!

>

> Here is a reference for andragogy:

>

> "In practical terms, andragogy means that instruction for adults needs



> to

> focus more on the process and less on the content being taught. 

> Strategies

> such as case studies, role playing, simulations, and self-evaluation 

> are

> most useful. Instructors adopt a role of facilitator or resource 

> rather than

> lecturer or grader." - taken from 

> http://tip.psychology.org/knowles.html

>

> I would argue, though, if you want to wordsmyth, that pedagogy can be

> synonymous with andragogy. At least it is in Quebec, where I work. The

> Quebec education program is now much more based in process rather than

> content and students (and teachers!) are being encouraged and trained 

> to

> look at how they learn in order to facilitate the learning of content.

> Students are also being assessed on the 'how' as well as the 'what'. 

> Most

> learning is becoming project-based so that learners are working in

> 'real-life' scenarios and there is a large self-evaluation component

as

> well. In fact, in elementary school most parent-teacher interviews

have

> become student-led conferences.

>

> I know that these kinds of reforms are happening in Ontario as well, 

> and I

> am sure that this is going on elsewhere too. I am just not aware of

it.

>

> So, from my perspective, good pedagogy is learner-centered and focuses



> on

> process and therefore not different from andragogy.

>

> Tracy Rosen

>

>

>

>

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>

> OK. You got me. What is the difference between pedagogy and andragogy?



> I

> was trained in K-12, but somehow ended up with a adults who are my

> students. I don't think I ever heard the term andragogy in my

training,

> nor in my practice.

> Tom Woods

> Community High School of Vermont

>

> khinson71 at cox.net wrote:

>

> Sometimes, the adult education instructor has no background and little

> knowledge or understanding of the differences between pedagogy and 

> andragogy

> when it comes to the adult classroom;

>

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