[FocusOnBasics 412] Re: pedagogy/andragogy
Andrea Wilder
andreawilder at comcast.net
Wed Jul 12 08:04:25 EDT 2006
I'm being picky--"androgogy"'s root is andr = male. Personally, I
avoid this word.
It was coined, I believe by an adult educator whose name I have
temporarily forgotten--but someone else will know, I am sure.
Pedagogy in my pea-sized brain mesns teaching, or the art of teaching.
I use this word.
Andrea
On Jul 11, 2006, at 4:30 PM, Tracy Rosen wrote:
> Hi everyone - my name is Tracy, I also was trained in k-12 but have
> worked
> with adults as well. I am presently finishing my MA in human systems
> intervention at Concordia University and am going to begin a new
> position in
> a few weeks at BJEC (the Bronfman Jewish Education Centre) as the
> special
> education coordinator for the schools in the Jewish education system in
> Montreal.
> Nice to meet you all!
>
> Here is a reference for andragogy:
>
> "In practical terms, andragogy means that instruction for adults needs
> to
> focus more on the process and less on the content being taught.
> Strategies
> such as case studies, role playing, simulations, and self-evaluation
> are
> most useful. Instructors adopt a role of facilitator or resource
> rather than
> lecturer or grader." - taken from
> http://tip.psychology.org/knowles.html
>
> I would argue, though, if you want to wordsmyth, that pedagogy can be
> synonymous with andragogy. At least it is in Quebec, where I work. The
> Quebec education program is now much more based in process rather than
> content and students (and teachers!) are being encouraged and trained
> to
> look at how they learn in order to facilitate the learning of content.
> Students are also being assessed on the 'how' as well as the 'what'.
> Most
> learning is becoming project-based so that learners are working in
> 'real-life' scenarios and there is a large self-evaluation component as
> well. In fact, in elementary school most parent-teacher interviews have
> become student-led conferences.
>
> I know that these kinds of reforms are happening in Ontario as well,
> and I
> am sure that this is going on elsewhere too. I am just not aware of it.
>
> So, from my perspective, good pedagogy is learner-centered and focuses
> on
> process and therefore not different from andragogy.
>
> Tracy Rosen
>
>
>
>
> ----Original Message Follows----
> From: Woods <woodsnh at isp.com>
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> Subject: [FocusOnBasics 404] Re: individualized workbook approach
> Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 14:26:41 -0400
>
> OK. You got me. What is the difference between pedagogy and andragogy?
> I
> was trained in K-12, but somehow ended up with a adults who are my
> students. I don't think I ever heard the term andragogy in my training,
> nor in my practice.
> Tom Woods
> Community High School of Vermont
>
> khinson71 at cox.net wrote:
>
> Sometimes, the adult education instructor has no background and little
> knowledge or understanding of the differences between pedagogy and
> andragogy
> when it comes to the adult classroom;
>
>
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