Return-Path: <nifl-4eff@literacy.nifl.gov> Received: from literacy (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by literacy.nifl.gov (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id g0OIpnn02056; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 13:51:49 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 13:51:49 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <20020124184919.57977470015@relay.iu13.org> Errors-To: listowner@literacy.nifl.gov Reply-To: nifl-4eff@literacy.nifl.gov Originator: nifl-4eff@literacy.nifl.gov Sender: nifl-4eff@literacy.nifl.gov Precedence: bulk From: Lora Zangari <lora_zangari@iu13.org> To: Multiple recipients of list <nifl-4eff@literacy.nifl.gov> Subject: [NIFL-4EFF:1981] Re: EFF and GED classrooms X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0c -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5.4r2 (Mac) Status: O Content-Length: 4414 Lines: 118 Reply to: RE: [NIFL-4EFF:1979] Re: EFF and GED classrooms Please believe me, I wasn't proposing to trick students into doing anything. The point of a transparent approach is quite the contrary. In fact, that was my point. I guess I didn't make that clear. I'm sure that some learners, just as some instructors, are very reluctant to try something new, or what might be contrary to their expectations of student/teacher roles. And I've had learners who came in, took the OPT and then the GED and that was that. However, most of the learners I meet are interested in learning and developing skills, not just studying. I believe that I must allow for choice. Lora Zangari Lancaster-Lebanon IU13 Adult & Family Literacy Education International English Training Program 238 N. George St. Millersville, PA 17551 Ph/fax: 717-871-0911 lora_zangari@iu13.org MWPotts2001 wrote: >Re: How do you get GED students to buy into EFF? > >Trick the learners? You're kidding, right? > >In the past several weeks, I have been interviewing adult learners, and most >of the time they say, off hand, --I'm here to get my GED--. > >Here is a text from a discussion: > >Man, I just wanna get my GED. > >Why? > >Cuz I need it, that's why. (This answer accompanied by a look of disgust at >my stupidity) > >Why? > >Cuz I can’t get a good job. (This answer accompanied by a sneer at my >blatant ignorance) > >What kind of job are you looking for? > >Somethin’ that pays lots of money and is fun. > >What do you like to do? > >Mostly hang out, listen to music, drive my truck. > >I saw an ad on Dominos’ window that says they are hiring delivery people. > >Man, I ain’t gonna work at Dominos. > >Why not? They get to drive around, probably can listen to music, too. > >It’s dangerous man. Don’t you know about the guy who got shot deliverin’ >pizza? Besides, it’s boring. > >So, you think you might be interested in looking at job possibilities in whic >h you could use your talents and skills? > >Sure, man. > >End of text. > >OK, now I can approach this student with the EFF Worker Role Map, especially >the Broad Area of Responsibility—Plan and Direct Personal and Professional >Growth, more specifically, the Key Activity-Pursue work activities that >provide personal satisfaction and meaning. I can lead into a look at the >Skills Wheel where we can look at the Decision-making Skill—Plan. We can look >at the Standard to see what one has to do to accomplish the Components of >Performance. We are after, all, on a mission. > >I am going to go with him to the computer, and show him how to locate survey >documents and job descriptions. He will be using the Common Activity—Gather, >Analyze and Use Information, and he will be preparing for the GED skills of >reading and comprehending written materials. He will be analyzing and >evaluating what he finds, also GED skills. > >It is not my job to fool him into acceptance of EFF. It is, however, my >responsibility to point out to him that while he is studying for his GED, he >is also acquiring skills that will last a lifetime—Equipping him for the >Future, so to speak. > > >Meta Potts >Glendale, Arizona > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >RFC822 header >----------------------------------- > > Return-Path: <nifl-4eff@literacy.nifl.gov> > Received: from relay.iu13.org ([unix socket]) > by mail.iu13.org (Cyrus v2.1.0pre) with LMTP; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 11:52:12 -0500 > X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.0 > Received: from literacy.nifl.gov (unknown [192.188.111.2]) > by relay.iu13.org (Postfix) with ESMTP > id 5C2DD470009; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 11:52:12 -0500 (EST) > Received: from literacy (localhost [127.0.0.1]) > by literacy.nifl.gov (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id g0OGp7n26634; > Thu, 24 Jan 2002 11:51:07 -0500 (EST) > Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 11:51:07 -0500 (EST) > Message-Id: <b8.21ccfa7f.2981946b@aol.com> > Errors-To: listowner@nifl.gov > Reply-To: nifl-4eff@nifl.gov > Originator: nifl-4eff@literacy.nifl.gov > Sender: nifl-4eff@nifl.gov > Precedence: bulk > From: MWPotts2001@aol.com > To: Multiple recipients of list <nifl-4eff@literacy.nifl.gov> > Subject: [NIFL-4EFF:1979] Re: EFF and GED classrooms > X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0c -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 39 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > MIME-Version: 1.0 >
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