Motorcyclist Advisory Council (MAC-FHWA)
Motorcyclist Advisory CouncilTo the Federal Highway Administration (MAC-FHWA)
Summary Report Of the October 24, 2006 Meeting
Contract DTFH61-05-D-00024
Task Order Number T-06-017
Agreement No. 37769-4
Vanasse Hangen Brustlin Inc. and Westat
Transportation and Safety Research Group
1650 Research Boulevard
Rockville, Maryland 20850-3195
November, 2006
Executive Summary
Motorcycling has increased greatly in popularity in recent years. The growing number of registered motorcycles and the rapidly increasing ridership among novice drivers, as well as those over 40, has been accompanied by a dramatic rise in the number of serious and fatal crashes. Congress demonstrated their concern regarding motorcycle safety by authorizing the Motorcyclist Advisory Council to the Federal Highway Administration (MAC-FHWA) as part of the SAFETEA-LU legislation. This Council is comprised of 10 individuals who meet specific qualifications as stated in the MAC-FHWA Charter. FHWA awarded a support contract to VBI and Westat to assist in the planning, facilitation and reporting of the MAC-FHWA meetings. This report describes the activities undertaken to plan, host and document the initial meeting held on October 24, 2006 in Washington, D.C.
Council members discussed topics relating to the design, construction and maintenance of highways as well as intelligent transportation system initiatives. Their recommendations and a list of action items are documented in this report. Also included are a transcription of the meeting and a chronology of meeting highlights. The next meeting is tentatively scheduled for the spring of 2007.
Introduction
Section 1914 of the Safe, Accountable, Flexible, Efficient, Transportation Equity Act: A Legacy for Users (SAFETEA-LU), Public Law 109-59, included a provision that established a Motorcyclist Advisory Council to the Federal Highway Administration (MAC-FHWA). This Advisory Council was established in accordance with the Federal Advisory Committee Act (FACA), 5 U.S.C. App., 49 CFR Part 95, and Department of Transportation Order 1120.3B. (See Appendix A for the complete text).
The formation of the Council reflects the growing concern among transportation safety professionals about the increasing popularity of motorcycle riding, especially among those over 40 years of age, and the concomitant increase in motorcyclist crashes and fatalities. Since 1997, motorcyclists' fatalities have doubled in number, reaching a high of over 4,300 in 2005.
A number of programs have been established to characterize the increase in motorcycle ridership; examine the factors contributing to the increasing number of serious crashes, and to enhance communication among riders, safety professionals, and other stakeholders. The MAC-FHWA specifically focuses on the roles that roadway design, construction and maintenance practices play in the safe operation of motorcycles. It provides a formal process in which carefully selected and knowledgeable individuals can interact with federal highway officials in order to achieve the common goal of safer roadways for all users.
Council Charter
The Charter for the MAC-FHWA (as shown in Appendix B) states the purpose, scope and objectives, and duties of the Council. The MAC-FHWA, acting through the FHWA Administrator, will coordinate with and advise the U.S. Department of Transportation Secretary. It will provide a forum for the development, consideration, and communication of information from a knowledgeable and independent perspective. Topics include specific issues of concern such as barrier design, road design, construction and maintenance practices, and the development and implementation of intelligent transportation system technologies. The FHWA Office of Safety sponsors the Council and provides logistic support services. Members are selected and appointed by the Secretary of Transportation. Meetings will be held at least once per year, and are open to the public. Discussion summaries will be given to the Secretary of Transportation, and will be made available to the public.
Council Selection
Pursuant to Section 1914 of SAFETEA-LU, the Secretary, acting through the Administrator of the Federal Highway Administration, and in consultation with the Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure of the House of Representatives and the Committee on Environment and Public Works of the Senate, appointed 10 members to the Motorcyclist Advisory Council. Prospective members were selected to represent various areas of knowledge and experience. Detailed descriptions of the qualifications of the prospective nominees are included in the Charter shown as Appendix B.
A list of the individuals selected as members of the Council is shown as Appendix C. For this initial meeting, Mr. Sean Maher served as a substitute for Mr. Ed Moreland. Also, Mr. Ken Kiphart was unable to attend due to an emergency. All other Council members were in attendance.
Public Comments
There were no public comments at this meeting. A full listing of participants is included in Appendix E.
USDOT Staff Comments
Ms. Susan Ryan, NHTSA, Office of Safety Programs, provided information about their quarterly motorcycle committee meetings which are also open to the public. Topics for these meetings focus on driver and vehicle-related issues.
Mr. Richard Powers, FHWA, Office of Safety, provided a video of barrier testing using motorcycles. He also showed a commercial from Great Britain that depicted safety hazards and driving mistakes that could endanger motorcyclists.
Ms. Mary McDonough, FHWA, Office of Safety, offered information on the logistics of Council activities, and reviewed current agency initiatives related to retro-reflectivity.
Council Recommendations and Action Items
At the conclusion of the meeting, the facilitator reviewed the recommendations made by the Council and recorded the action items to be achieved prior to the next meeting. These are shown below.
Recommendations
The Council made a series of recommendations that reflected the need to raise awareness of motorcyclists' safety concerns. The recommendations were intended for various audiences including the FHWA, State and local agencies, professional associations, and motorcyclists.
These recommendations include:
- Prepare a brochure that can be distributed to government agencies urging them to consider motorcyclists' concerns during road design, construction and maintenance activities.
- Encourage State departments of transportation to create websites that allow motorcyclists to report roadway hazards. A model for this is the Roadhazard.org site created by ABATE in the Midwest. The websites would be monitored by State and local highway officials who could schedule repairs, improve signage, etc.
- Examine the skid resistance of intersection markings. The use of thermoplastics, especially for broad, horizontal intersection lines, creates slippery surfaces for motorcyclists who are stopped on top of them
- Continue FHWA initiatives to improve retro-reflectivity of signs and roadway markings. Also consider the use of wider lane markings in order to increase their visibility.
- Reduce hazards associated with milled surfaces, parallel paving lane joints, drop offs at shoulders and bridge surfaces, parallel grids on bridges, steel plates, potholes and other uneven roadway surfaces.
- Conduct a review of barrier designs used internationally, and identify those that are most forgiving when impacted by motorcyclists.
- Consider signage targeted to motorcyclists to warn of especially hazardous conditions for them. These could include subjects such as uneven pavement surfaces and crosswinds.
- Examine the use of various sealants on road surfaces. Tar snakes (excess tar left on the surface) and other materials present slippery surfaces for motorcyclists.
- Extend future meetings to at least 1 ½ days.
The Council was also interested in exploring ways in which they could better interact with groups such as AASHTO to ensure that motorcyclists' perspectives are considered during the development of recommendations and standard practices.
Action Items
Council members assumed responsibility for support activities as described below:
Jeff Hennie volunteered to provide examples of highway signs targeted for motorcyclists.
Mark Bloschock will consult with highway designers and engineers to review whether new entrance ramps are getting shorter than in older designs.
Mark Bloschock will bring a sample of a tyre grip product that is used on surfaces such as steel plates to provide some traction for tires.
The next Council meeting is tentatively planned for the spring of 2007.
Transcript of the Meeting
Highlights of the meeting, as recorded by the recording secretary, are shown as Appendix F. Due to its length, the full transcript of the meeting is available in a separate document.
APPENDIX A – SAFETEA-LU LEGISLATION
SAFETEA-LU, SEC. 1914, MOTORCYCLIST ADVISORY COUNCIL:
(a) In General.--The Secretary, acting through the Administrator of the Federal Highway Administration, in consultation with the Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure of the House of Representatives and the Committee on Environment and Public Works of the Senate, shall appoint a Motorcyclist Advisory Council to coordinate with and advise the Administrator on infrastructure issues of concern to motorcyclists, including--
- (1) barrier design;
- (2) road design, construction, and maintenance practices; and
- (3) the architecture and implementation of intelligent transportation system technologies.
(b) Composition.--The Council shall consist of not more than 10 members of the motorcycling community with professional expertise in national motorcyclist safety advocacy, including--
- (1) at least--
- (A) one member recommended by a national motorcyclist association;
- (B) one member recommended by a national motorcycle riders foundation;
- (C) one representative of the National Association of State Motorcycle Safety Administrators;
- (D) two members of State motorcyclists' organizations;
- (E) one member recommended by a national organization that represents the builders of highway infrastructure;
- (F) one member recommended by a national association that represents the traffic safety systems industry; and
- (G) one member of a national safety organization; and
- (2) at least one, and not more than two, motorcyclists who are traffic system design engineers or State transportation department officials.
APPENDIX B – COUNCIL CHARTER
Motorcyclist Advisory Council to the Federal Highway Administration
CHARTER
- Purpose. This charter establishes the Motorcyclist Advisory Council to the Federal Highway Administration established by Section 1914 of SAFETEA-LU (the Safe, Accountable, Flexible, Efficient, Transportation Equity Act: A Legacy for Users) (Public Law 109-59). The Motorcyclist Advisory Council to the Federal Highway Administration (the “MAC-FHWA” or “the Council”) is established in accordance with the Federal Advisory Committee Act (FACA), 5 U.S.C. App., 49 CFR Part 95, and Department of Transportation Order 1120.3B.
- Scope. The MAC-FHWA will coordinate with and advise the Secretary of the Department of Transportation, acting through the Administrator of the Federal Highway Administration (FHWA), on infrastructure issues of concern to motorcyclists, including:
- (1) Barrier design;
- (2) Road design, construction, and maintenance practices; and
- (3) The architecture and implementation of intelligent transportation system technologies.
- Objectives and Duties. Consistent with the scope of its activities described in section 2 above, the MAC-FHWA will not exercise program management or regulatory development responsibilities, and will not make decisions directly affecting the programs about which it provides advice. The MAC-FHWA will provide a forum for the development, consideration, and communication of information from a knowledgeable and independent perspective. The MAC-FHWA will provide advice and recommendations only.
- Sponsor and Support. The FHWA Office of Safety shall be the MAC-FHWA sponsor and shall furnish support services for the operation of the Council. The Associate Administrator for Safety shall designate a staff member to be the designated Federal official (DFO) of the MAC-FHWA. The DFO, or his or her designee, will be present at all meetings and is authorized to adjourn any meeting when doing so is in the public interest.
- Membership. By law, the MAC-FHWA shall consist of not more than 10 members of the motorcycling community with professional expertise in national motorcyclist safety advocacy, including at least:
- (a) one member recommended by a national motorcyclist association;
- (b) one member recommended by a national motorcycle riders foundation;
- (c) one representative of the National Association of State Motorcycle Safety Administrators;
- (d) two members of State motorcyclists' organizations;
- (e) one member recommended by a national organization that represents the builders of highway infrastructure;
- (f) one member recommended by a national association that represents the traffic safety systems industry;
- (g) one member of a national safety organization; and
- (h) at least one, and not more than two, motorcyclists who are traffic system design engineers or State transportation department officials.
Appointments. Each member shall be appointed by the Secretary for a two-year term, with each member eligible to be reappointed. Any person appointed to fill a vacancy occurring prior to the expiration of the term for which his or her predecessor was appointed shall be appointed for the remainder of such term. Members shall continue to serve until their replacements have been appointed.
Members may be represented at MAC-FHWA meetings and activities by alternates representing the same interest as the member. Alternates shall have full rights and duties of membership. If a current member is unable to attend a meeting, that member or his/her organization may nominate an alternate for approval by the Council’s sponsor, at any time prior to the meeting or activity for which the appointment is made. Unless otherwise specified by the member, the appointment is valid for only one meeting or activity including any continuation of that meeting or activity.
- Meetings. It is anticipated that the MAC-FHWA will meet at least once a year. Meetings will be held in Washington, D.C. No meeting shall be held in the absence of the DFO or a Departmental employee alternate designated by the DFO. An agenda for each meeting must be approved in advance by the DFO, or designated alternate, who may cancel or adjourn any meeting when he or she determines that to do so is in the public interest. The following procedures shall govern the conduct of all MAC-FHWA meetings:
- a. All meetings shall be open to the public, except as provided under FACA.
- b. Notice of each meeting shall be published in the Federal Register at least 15 days before the date of the meeting and shall include the agenda for the meeting.
- c. Detailed minutes of each meeting shall be prepared under the guidance of and certified by the DFO. The minutes shall contain:
- (1) The time, date, and place of the meeting;
- (2) A record of all attendees at the meeting;
- (3) A complete and accurate description of all matters discussed and recommendations made;
- (4) Copies of all reports received, issued, or approved by the MAC-FHWA; and
- (5) A description of public participation, including oral or written statements and the identities and affiliations of presenters.
- Public Interest. As the MAC-FHWA was established by law, the formation and operation of the MAC-FHWA is deemed to be in the public interest.
- Compensation for expenses. Council members shall not receive salary or other compensation for their service. Council members who are not full-time Federal employees will be responsible for their own expenses for participation.
- Estimated annual costs. Operating expenses will be borne by the MAC-FHWA sponsor. The annual cost to the government for operating the Council, including compensation and travel expenses for a facilitator, meeting costs, report writing, and administrative support, is estimated to be $30,000.
- Reports. At the end of each fiscal year, the DFO shall submit an annual report to the Secretary describing the MAC-FHWA's membership, activities, and accomplishments for the past calendar year. In addition, the DFO shall provide interim reports to the Secretary upon request.
- Effective Date and Duration. This charter is effective July 31, 2006 and will terminate on June 30, 2008 unless it is extended prior to that time in accordance with FACA and other applicable requirements.
APPENDIX C - COUNCIL MEMBERS
2006 Council Members
Recommended by a national motorcyclist organization
Ed Moreland
Vice President, Government Relations
American Motorcyclist Association
101 Constitution Ave, N.W., Suite 800
Washington, DC 20001
202.742.4301
Sean Maher (2006 substitute)
edmoreland.ama@erols.com
Recommended by a national motorcycle riders foundation
Jeff Hennie
Vice President, Government Relations Motorcycle Riders Foundation
236 Massachusetts Ave NE, Suite 510
Washington DC 20002
202.546.0983, 202.725.5471 (cell)
jeff@mrf.org
Representing the National Association of State Motorcycle Safety Administrators
Ken Kiphart
Chairman, National Assoc. of State Motorcycle Safety Administrators
555 Wright Way
Carson City, NV 89711
775.684.7480
nvrider@dps.state.nv.us
Representing State motorcyclists’ organizations
Steven P. Zimmer
State Executive Director, ABATE of Ohio, Inc.
6243 Sunderland Drive
P.O. Box 29246
Columbus, OH 43229
800.25BIKER
Cambolt@aol.com
Recommended by a national organization that represents the builders of highway infrastructure
Gerald J. Salontai
President and CEO, Kleinfelder, Incorporated
5015 Shoreham Place
San Diego, CA 92122
858.320.2232
Gsalontai@kleinfelder.com
Recommended by a national association that represents the traffic safety systems industry
Robert J. McClune,
Executive Vice President and General Manager North America, Potters Industries
P.O. Box 840
Valley Forge, PA 19482
610.651.4716
bob.mcclune@pottersbeads.com
Serving as a member of a national safety organization
Kathy Van Kleeck
Sr. Vice President, Government Relations
Motorcycle Safety Foundation
1235 S. Clark St., Suite 600
Arlington, VA 22202
703.416.0444
kvankleeck@mic.org
Serving as a member who is a motorcyclist and a traffic systems design engineer or State transportation department official
Mark Bloschock
Special Projects Branch Manager
Texas Department of Transportation
125 East 11th Street, Austin, TX 78701
512.416.2178
mbloscho@dot.state.tx.us
Serving as a member who is a motorcyclist and a traffic systems design engineer or State transportation department official
Donald Vaughn
Chief Engineer/Deputy Director of Operations Alabama Department of Transportation
1409 Coliseum Blvd.
P.O. Box 303050
Montgomery, AL 36110
334.242.6311
VaughnD@dot.state.al.us
cc: AustinL@dot.state.al.us
APPENDIX D – AGENDA
Motorcyclist Advisory Council to the Federal Highway Administration
(MAC-FHWA)
First Meeting: October 24, 2006
- 8:30 Call to Order
8:45 Welcome, Opening Remarks and Introductions
Jeff Lindley, Associate Administrator for Safety, FHWA
Richard Capka, Administrator, FHWA
Mary Peters, Secretary, U.S. Department of Transportation
Introductions of Advisory Council Members and FHWA’s Designated Federal Official (DFO) for the MAC-FHWA – Fran Bents, Facilitator
9:00 Legislative Mandate/ Council Scope/ Meeting Purpose – Mike Halladay, DFO
9:15 Meeting Format and Ground Rules – Fran
9:25 Overview of FHWA and Office of Safety Programs – Mike
9:40 Break
10:00 Facilitated Discussion of Infrastructure Issues, prioritized by Council members, including but not limited to:- Barrier Design
- Road Design
- Construction
- Maintenance Practices
- Intelligent Transportation Systems (ITS) Technologies
- Other Issues from Council
12:00 Lunch
1:00 Continuation of Council Discussion - Fran
2:30 Break
2:45 Continuation of Council Discussion – Fran
3:00 Summary of Discussion and Consensus of Advisory Council - Fran
3:15 Public Comments - Fran
3:45 Summary of Action Items and Next Steps - Fran
4:00 Closing Comments – Mike
4:15 Adjourn
APPENDIX E – LIST OF PARTICIPANTS
- Mary Peters, Secretary of Transportation
- Richard Capka, Administrator, FHWA
- Jeff Lindley, Associate Administrator for Safety, FHWA
- Michael Halladay, Director, Office of Program Integration and Delivery and Designated Federal Official for MAC, FHWA
- Sean Maher, American Motorcyclist Association
- Jeff Hennie, Vice President, Motorcycle Riders Foundation
- Darrel Killion, State Coordinator, ABATE of South Dakota
- Steven Zimmer, State Executive Director, ABATE of Ohio
- Gerald Salontai, President, Kleinfelder, Inc.
- Robert McClune, Executive Vice President, Potters Industries
- Kathy Van Kleeck, Sr. Vice President, Motorcycle Safety Foundation
- Mark Bloschock, Special Projects Branch Manager, Texas Department of Transportation
- Donald Vaughn, Chief Engineer, Alabama Department of Transportation
- Morris Oliver, MAC Program Manager and Transportation Specialist, FHWA
- Mary McDonough, Team Leader, Roadway Departure, FHWA
- Dick Powers, FHWA
- Jana Price, National Transportation Safety Board
- Sue Ryan, NHTSA
- William Cosby, NHTSA
- Dana Crosby, MRF
- Tim Arnade, FHWA
- Stephen Brich, Technical Expert, VHB
- Duane Walker, Recording Secretary, Westat
- Shelley Boyd, Research Assistant, Westat
- Frances Bents, Facilitator and Project Director, Westat
APPENDIX F – MEETING HIGHLIGHTS FROM THE RECORDING SECRETARY
MOTORCYCLE ADVISORY COUNCIL MEETING 10.24.2006
PARTICIPANTS [P]
- Fran Bents, Moderator
- Michael Halladay, FHWA, Designated Federal Official for the MAC-FHWA, and Director, Office of Safety Integration
- Sean Maher, AMA
- Jeff Hennie, MRF
- Darrel Killion, ABATE, S.D.
- Steven Zimmer, ABATE, OH
- Gerald Salontai, Kleinfelder, Inc.
- Robert McClune, Potter Industries
- Kathy Van Kleeck, MSF
- Donald Vaughn, DOT, AL
- Mark Bloschock, DOT, TX
- Jeffrey Lindley, FHWA, Associate Administrator for Safety
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[P] | STATEMENT(S) |
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8:49 am |
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Introductions... Opening |
8:53 am | Secretary of the Department of Transportation |
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9:04 am | Secretary of the Department of Transportation | Excused herself. |
9:04 am | Mr. Halladay | The Legislative Mandate: SAFETEA-LU
Questions? |
9:11 am | Ms. Bents | Introduce yourselves. |
9:12 am | Mr. Bloschock | Passion for safety because of personal experience |
9:13 am | Mr. Vaughn | DOT Alabama, 35 years. Had given up riding, decided to ride again @ 50. |
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Top Issue: design, maintain and construct roadways. Not enough attention to motorcycle safety. | |
9:15 am | Ms. Van Kleeck | 30 yrs. exp. In motorcycle safety. MSF develops rider courses—life-long learning priority, as well as road design. |
9:17 am | Mr. McClune | Hwy safety for 20 years. Specifically roadway delineations & markings. |
9:18 am | Mr. Salontai | Representing ARBTA. A rider. One issue is merge lane shortening—causes auto driver problems... Have more issues. |
9:19 am | Mr. Zimmer | 25 years in transportation. Passionate about motorcycle safety. Personal interest. Issues:
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9:21 am | Mr. Killion | Rider 45 yrs. South Dakota has largest rally on earth—therefore, more fatalities. Much experience in solving these problems, but much to do. |
9:23 am | Mr. Hennie | Funded campaigns for motorcycle safety. |
9:25 am | Mr. Maher | Filling in for Ed Moreland. Helped put together National Agenda for Motorcycle Safety. Issues:
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9:26 am | Ms. Bents | Meeting to focus on infrastructure. Keep informal. Have common interests. Will try to help reach conclusions. May ask you to repeat, summarize. Michael Halladay may adjourn meeting at any time appropriate. Ground rules displayed. |
9:30 am | Mr. Halladay | PowerPoint Presentation: Explanation of the FHWA and the Office of Safety. Questions? |
9:52 am | Ms. Van Kleeck | Motorcycles typically lumped-in with bicycles and pedestrians. Have motorcycles always been under Mr. Halladay's office? |
9:52 am | Mr. Halladay | Yes, that's new. Recently moved because many other elements of the office cross. |
9:53 am | Mr. Vaughn | Status of motorcycle crash causation research? |
9:54 am | Mr. Halladay | In process with contracting with OK State Univ. Match funds are being gathered. Will include broad range of topics. Results will be helpful to group. Mr. Vaughn and Mr. Salontai 7 must leave early. |
9:56 am |
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BREAK |
10:20 am | Ms. Bents | Reconvene. |
10:21 am | Mr. Bloschock | Ken Kiphart couldn't attend... Mr. Moreland's alternate is Mr. Maher. Also, Council's 2 year term can be extended. |
10:22 am | Mr. Salontai | How to bring maximum information to analyze issue? |
10:23 am | Mr. Vaughn | Would like to see awareness of motorcycle needs. Designs currently based on cars—motorcycles not considered. If could bring information forward, while waiting on science, would be good. |
10:24 am | Mr. Salontai | Where does information go? To Federal Highway Administration? |
10:24 am | Mr. Bloschock | To FHWA, then to Secretary Peters. Then general DOT involvement w/all transportation issues/projects will consider results from here. |
10:26 am | Mr. Vaughn | Awareness is big issue. Increase in motorcycle fatalities is disturbing... Frightening. See speeding, alcohol—many things beyond scope of Council, but road issues can be addressed. If make state DOTs aware of the Motorcycle issues. |
10:29 am | Mr. McClune | Awareness, education important. On personal motorcycle license renewal he received a flyer that says, "Drive Aware." Only sent to Motorcycles—should go to all. |
10:30 am | Ms. Van Kleeck | Agrees. The program is being expanded in some states and will happen soon. |
10:30 am | Mr. McClune | Hasn't happened yet—and should. |
10:31 am | Ms. Bents | Handled by NHTSA. How to define awareness issue? |
10:31 am | Mr. Zimmer | Designers thought of motorist only. Need to make designers and administrators aware. Steel plates, e.g. Simple things like this. |
10:33 am | Mr. Bloschock | Agree. Encountered & reported big buttons (repair plates in travel lanes), traffic people said "don't care about motorcycles" |
10:34 am | Ms. Bents | How was issue raised? |
10:34 am | Mr. Bloschock | Was there as representative. Years ago. Things have changed due to growth of motorcycles. |
10:34 am | Mr. McClune | AASHTO must be involved in this. They're primarily focused on cars. The program, "Safer signs, are yours break-away?" was result of research, but were motorcycles included in this research? Also, guard rails and the effects of guard rails on motorcycles. Has research been done? I think not. |
10:37 am | Mr. Maher | Example:
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10:40 am | Ms. Bents | Other suggestions? (to Mr. Maher) |
10:40 am | Mr. Maher |
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10:41 am | Mr. McClune | Another is "raised medians." Recently caused 3 fatalities @ rally. Not visible, can be replaced w/painted medians. See them everywhere. |
10:43 am | Mr. Zimmer | Signage important. Specific signage needed to help motorcycles—heighten awareness. |
10:44 am | Ms. Bents | Things that are inconvenience for cars, can be deadly for Motorcycles. |
10:45 am | Mr. Zimmer | Example of Missouri bridge with open gridwork installed in the wrong direction; more dangerous because no signage. |
10:46 am | Mr. Salontai | Is there data on ridership? (to Mr. Halladay). Would help support this Council. |
10:47 am | Mr. Halladay | Answer is YES. More and more are being compiled. |
10:47 am | Mr. Salontai | Many solutions are fairly simple—more related to maintenance, construction, etc. Steel plating - could put abrasive material on top. |
10:48 am | Ms. Bents | Would be helpful to group to get specific? |
10:49 am | Mr. Salontai | Could break it into 3 categories: ITS, design & maintenance |
10:49 am | Ms. Bents | Start with design. Raised barriers. |
10:49 am | Mr. McClune | More raised medians & guard rails. It's those that should be painted. And guard rails. |
10:50 am | Mr. Bloschock | Raised medians are necessary for other reasons. Must have retro-reflectivity. We look to private industries to address this. |
10:52 am | Mr. McClune | Pavement marking is issue for all aspects of roadways. FHWA has begun to address, but it is considered to be an unfunded mandate. The older driver requires more light then younger. Vision of roadway is critical, e.g., wider edge lines give driver vision for more distance. |
10:54 am | Ms. Bents | Eyewear play a factor? |
10:54 am | Mr. McClune | Not best qualified to answer; but, motorcyclists wear darker glasses—shouldn't at night, but some do. Other parts of world add skid resistance to markings—more for bicyclist. Should be considered at intersections. |
10:56 am | Mr. Hennie | To add: Thermoplastic markings and decorative such as stone crosswalks. Pavement markings being slippery are a high priority. |
10:58 am | Ms. Bents | Are stone crosswalks strictly decorative? |
10:58 am | Mr. Hennie | Yes. |
10:58 am | Mr. Bloschock | May also have to do w/ADA. |
10:58 am | Mr. Hennie | Thermo-plastic can be slick as glass—had accident, found thermo-plastic had built up to dangerous height. Issue not mentioned in class. (others agree) |
11:00 am | Mr. McClune | There is simple/inexpensive fix. There are 2 categories: durable/non-durable. |
11:01 am | Mr. Hennie | Officials were high on thermo-plastic because of durability—surprised to learn of danger to motorcycles. |
11:02 am | Mr. McClune | Further explain: most markings are such. |
11:02 am | Ms. Van Kleeck | Has thermo-plastic taken over? |
11:03 am | Mr. McClune | No, mostly a new kind of paint is being used, but thermo-plastic is prevalent. Europe is ahead on this issue—should look to them for guidance. |
11:04 am | Ms. Bents | Multiple layers of thermoplastic are a problem as well? |
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Mr. Bloschock | Yes. |
11:04 am | Mr. Zimmer | Markings become invisible in wet weather. Reflectivity is doubly important. |
11:05 am | Ms. Bents | Reflectivity, requirements determined by Federal standard, states...? Who determines? |
11:06 am | Mr. McClune | Federal mandate to provide retro-reflectivity. Industry says should be high; Federal says should be reasonable; States concerned about costs. There are systems that are designed for "wet/night," some states (Kansas) have them, but expensive. Increases cost 10-15%. |
11:08 am | Mr. Zimmer | Is there a standard as to when to repaint? Some become maintenance issues. |
11:09 am | Mr. Halladay | Cost issue. [Refers to Mary] |
Mary McDonough, FHWA | Struggling with issue. Trying to work with states considering costs, etc. There is currently a Notice of Proposed Rulemaking (NPR)—only applies to signage. Must see how this goes to begin to address pavement. More complicated. | |
11:11 am | Mr. McClune | Signs affect motorcycles, but it's really pavement markings. A state responsibility. Costs concerns. |
11:12 am | Mr. Salontai | There is no standard? [NO] If integrated into construction, will see more pressure/opportunity to address in maintenance |
11:12 am | Ms. Bents | Recommendation? |
11:14 am | Mr. Salontai | There are 2. Reflective/Skid Resistance |
11:14 am | Mr. McClune | But, to whom? |
11:15 am | Ms. Bents | To FHWA. |
11:15 am | Mr. McClune | Go to ASTEC to investigate... |
11:15 am | Mr. Halladay | Identification of issue(s) is most important now. Then, develop response. |
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Mr. Salontai | Issue is pavement markings as significant contributors to motorcycle crashes & should be looked into. |
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Mr. McClune | All pavement markings. |
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Mr. Bloschock | And durability... |
11:19 am | Mr. Zimmer | Suggest we categorize recommendations, e.g., urgent, etc. |
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Mr. Halladay | Having data would help, won't happen for a time. |
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Mr. Maher | Awareness gap on rider end. Engineers weren't aware of potential problem. Bring issues together to increase awareness. |
11:21 am | Ms. Bents | Ridership is up. Many stopped riding when young adults & returned in their 40s and 50s, and things have changed. Fatality rate has increased rapidly. |
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Mr. Bloschock | I'm one. "Empty Nest, Full Throttle." |
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Mr. Maher | While harping awareness, don't see engineers tearing up markings, but awareness can happen immediately. |
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Mr. Bloschock | Although all might be slow, high-motorcycle-traffic areas may be quick to move. |
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Mr. Salontai | Agree. |
11:25 am | Mr. Salontai | Recommend compile awareness document for designers, etc. |
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Mr. McClune | What control does Council have? Quotes from AASHTO: "signs shall be break-away." If such language is used for skid-resistance/intersections, will become law. |
11:28 am | Mr. Halladay | There is a formal process... |
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Mr. Lindley | Re: boundaries of group. Policy, legislation, etc., are on table. May take longer or not at all but can be made. |
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Mr. McClune | Already movement for improvement in retro-reflectivity & wider lines. Recommend Council strongly supports this as safety device as it pertains to motorcycles. May want to add "wet/night," etc. |
11:31 am | Ms. McDonough | Signs appear differently to different motorists. Comments can be stated in current NPR docket. |
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Mr. McClune | Also, milled surfaces. Don't think DOTs are aware of problem. |
11:33 am | Ms. Bents | Skid resistance, retro-reflectivity. How to rate for importance as recommendations? |
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Ms. Van Kleeck | Easier to prioritize at end than 1 by 1. |
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Ms. Bents | OK. Can we move on? |
11:35 am | Ms. Van Kleeck | Mostly design issue. |
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Mr. Zimmer | Maryland examined expansion joints & implemented signage. Design Issues |
11:36 am | Ms. Bents | We're mixing 2 things: design/signage. True? |
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Mr. Zimmer | Hard to separate. As designed, consideration must be given to motorcycles—e.g., expansion joints. Necessary, but signage required. |
11:38 am | Mr. Bloschock | Most engineers are not motorcyclists... All about awareness. |
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Mr. Salontai | In my area, "settlement" of bridges is issue. Starts OK, then becomes problem. Also, preventive maintenance. Also, joints not aligned w/lane markings. |
11:42 am | Mr. Killion | Also, when temporary crossover lanes are built, transition from concrete to asphalt is always a problem. |
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Ms. Bents | A general category: uneven pavement. |
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Mr. Bloschock | Driving issues. |
11:44 am | Mr. McClune | Potholes. Taken seriously by highway administrators, but not considering motorcycles. |
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Ms. Bents | How do we increase awareness? |
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Mr. McClune | Take them for a motorcycle ride. |
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Ms. Bents | What do to? Mark potholes with paint? |
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Mr. McClune | Potholes are more dangerous to motorcycles than cars. |
11:46 am | Mr. Killion | In South Dakota, we have a toll free phone number for reporting problems like potholes (motorcycle), reported directly to maintenance. Keep following up. Found that it helped. |
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Mr. Bloschock | Good idea. Mostly cars report, but to have motorcycles direct line is good. |
11:48 am | Ms. Bents | Is this a recommendation? |
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Mr. Bloschock | I'll 2nd. |
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Mr. Maher | Agree. |
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Mr. Killion | More explanation of 800#. Calls are screened, passed on if valid... |
11:50 am | Mr. Maher | If for cars, should be for motorcycles. |
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Mr. Zimmer | The Web site Roadhazards.org is maintained by ABATE and covers several states. |
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Mr. Maher | Should be targeted to motorcycles. |
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Mr. Salontai | Having it at State DOT website is good. |
11:52 am | Ms. Van Kleeck | Recommendation should be State DOTs should have this. |
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Mr. Halladay | Who takes care of what? |
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Mr. Bloschock | Explains. |
11:53 am | Ms. Bents | Web page for Motorcycles? |
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Mr. Zimmer | Good tool. Can spread information faster. |
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Mr. Bloschock | Could take out ads in biker magazines to make riders aware of these resources. |
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Mr. Killion | There was initially concern that DOT wouldn't listen, but people are becoming convinced. |
11:56 am | Ms. Bents | Any other maintenance issues? |
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Mr. Halladay | Potholes took us into maintenance. |
11:56 am | Mr. Maher | Didn't talk about barriers, re: design. |
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1:08 pm | Ms. Bents | Reconvene. DOT brochure & DVDs distributed/explained. Review of recommendations from morning session. |
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Mr. Maher | Did we make recommendation to FHWA to develop a brochure to raise awareness of motorcycle concerns to designers? |
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Mr. Bloschock | Flyer, more "soft." (easy to read) |
1:14 pm | Ms. McDonough | Can put "best practices" on sites to say what other states are doing. |
1:14 pm | Ms. Bents | How is the meeting going so far? Change pace, approach, topics? |
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Mr. Bloschock | Think should be 1 ½ day meeting |
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Mr. Salontai | Frequency of meetings. Mention of maybe next summer to meet again. Would suggest something closer for next meeting. |
1:16 pm | Ms. Bents | When would you like to meet again? |
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Mr. Zimmer | Should be timed to coincide w/rider season. Develop plans, etc., over winter so when summer comes recommendations can be implemented. Would be more dramatic, have more impact. Feb., Apr., Mar. |
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Mr. Bloschock | Consider fiscal year. |
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Mr. Hennie | And construction season. |
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Mr. Salontai | More notice is needed. 3 or 4 months notice. |
1:21 pm | Mr. Bloschock | Travel difficult. Perhaps an email query... |
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Mr. Salontai | March-May is good time period to meet. |
1:22 pm | Ms. Bents | What next? |
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Mr. Hennie | Signage: Visibility—Many States have mandated that motorcycle signage of road changes be posted. |
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Mr. Bloschock | Ideally, there would be motorcycle specific signage. |
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Mr. Maher | At 1 point, the AMA commissioned that motorcycle-only signs be used. Was ruled out because most people didn't understand sign & rejected. |
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Mr. Bloschock | That's the idea. Want cars to ignore them. |
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Mr. Halladay | Don't want to create confusion. But they also worry about confusing cars. Maybe the recommendation is for motorcycle-specific signs & how it would be done. Lots of bureaucratic issues. |
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Mr. Hennie | There are motorcycle-specific signs here. |
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Mr. Bloschock | Would like to see them. |
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Mr. Salontai | Saw sign for motorcycles to be aware in one place; in another, with message boards, no warning. |
1:30 pm | Mr. Zimmer | In Oklahoma, Texas, etc., have seen signs warning of cross winds. |
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Mr. Killion | Seen them too. |
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Ms. Bents | Would generic cross-wind sign work? |
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Mr. Zimmer | Yes, but adding motorcycle symbol would help. |
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Ms. Van Kleeck | Possibly the symbol would make cars think the sign doesn't apply to them. |
1:32 pm | Ms. Bents | Other signs? |
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Mr. McClune | Understanding the process. How to involve other sitting committees. Believe they're not considering motorcycles—only cars & trucks. Reason is if we say we need signs, they design universal signs. How to infuse motorcycle concerns? |
1:35 pm | Mr. Zimmer | Talked of brochures. Perhaps send recommendations to MUTCD. |
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Mr. Salontai | Will there be a final report? |
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Ms. Bents | We will produce report; DOT will add. |
1:36 pm | Mr. Halladay | What comes from here can go in a lot of directions. A lot of personal contacts will occur in addition to published info. |
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Mr. Bloschock | Barrier design. Video exists on barrier design testing with motorcyclists; most haven't seen it. We will show it. They do not take into account motorcycles or bicycles, etc. Ask how to make more motorcycle-friendly barriers. |
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Mr. Hennie | Cable barriers have gruesome nicknames, decapitate, etc. |
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Mr. Bloschock | Potential for the sliding rider to slide through. |
1:42 pm | Mr. Zimmer | European Union endorsed them at first, now removing this type of barrier. |
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Mr. Hennie | Heard they were cheaper |
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Mr. Bloschock | Not true. |
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Mr. Hennie | Have you seen cases where cable/guard were struck and their consequences? |
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Mr. Bloschock | Video will show. With cable barriers, there's opportunity to go under them. |
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Mr. Hennie | Perhaps minimum height should be established. |
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Mr. Powers, FHWA | 50/50 single/vs. multi-vehicle crashes. Most harmful event was tree. Next, was guard rail. Next was utility pole. Lowest was concrete barrier. Obtained test data from Germany on guard rails, etc. Exist to keep cars from running off road. Guard rails is a hazard; lesser of 2 evils. Cable is the softest constraint that exists. Worst is metal post. |
1:50 pm |
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1:53 pm | Mr. Powers | Hitting any barrier is catastrophic. To develop a barrier to help the Motorcycle would not address car/truck, etc. |
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Mr. Halladay | Were any changes made? |
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Mr. Powers | Don't know. Made small changes, e.g., padding, but not nearly adequate. |
1:55 pm | Mr. McClune | Is it possible to commission a study to investigate practices in EU? Just to have basis as to whether to do/not do something. |
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Mr. Bloschock | Must be something w/EU that we're missing. Seems to be more motorcycle-friendly. Culture shows more respect for motorcyclists. |
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Mr. Powers | Need to see if the issues discussed involve actual causes of fatalities. |
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Mr. Hennie | Motorcycle Crash Causation study won't be ready until 2010? |
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Ms. Bents | Correct. Great detail. Pilot study begins 3-4/07. Summer 07 is when study actually begins. May take several years to get large enough pool of data to analyze. |
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Mr. Halladay | Yes, there are programs in place to discover what other countries are doing. |
2:02 pm | Mr. Bloschock | Went on EU bridge scanning tour. Had value; not just vacation. |
2:04 pm | Ms. Bents | More on barriers? Literature review of other nations? |
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Mr. Hennie | Get the information to designers |
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Mr. McClune | Where does the expertise come from? Historically, government turns to industry, to find ways to address the issues. |
2:06 pm | Mr. Halladay | That's appropriate. Many are multi-national. Could be taken to AFSA. |
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Mr. Powers | Would like to find out results. Most State DOTs don't have funds for such. Plus, liability issues. Smooth face (barriers) seems to be best, as opposed to others. |
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Ms. Van Kleeck | Also, acoustic barriers. |
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Mr. Bloschock | In Texas, we don't mount barriers unless they are crash-tested. |
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Mr. Zimmer | Air-bag guard rails... |
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Mr. McClune | Don't know interface between Council & motorcycle manufacturers, e.g., ABS brakes for cars, not for bikes. Link brakes, air bags. |
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Mr. Hennie | Dialogue is open currently w/NHTSA. |
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Ms. Van Kleeck | NTSB just had safety forum. |
2:12 pm | Mr. Zimmer | We'll see more of that as awareness increases. |
2:13 pm | Sue Ryan, NHTSA | Quarterly NHTSA Motorcycle Committee covers alcohol, law enforcement, training. Meetings are open to public. |
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Mr. Hennie | NHTSA did extensive study on ABS. |
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Mr. Zimmer | Motorcycle ABS is working pretty well. Still working on link system. |
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Mr. Salontai | Back to Charter, opportunity to change design. |
2:14 pm |
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Break |
2:31 pm |
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Reconvene |
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Mr. Powers | PSA, EU video (all the wrong things to do as a motorcyclist) |
2:34 pm | Ms. Bents | Review agenda. Recommendations? |
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Mr. Salontai | Other design issues, e.g., compound curves, merge lanes, transitions. |
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Mr. Bloschock | Covered surface issues pretty well. |
2:35 pm | Mr. Hennie | Merge lanes. Don't have numbers. Are they bad? Maybe deserves a deeper look. |
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Mr. Salontai | Length of transition on-ramps seem to be shortening—in California, at least. Are becoming issues as cars become erratic attempting to enter traffic, etc. |
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Mr. Halladay | Lot of ways we can go. Today, maybe just frame issues. If there's more thought, will be valuable |
2:38 pm | Mr. Hennie | Toll booth issues. Just want to raise all issues to get on agenda. |
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Mr. Bloschock | Will be opening tolls in Texas; will monitor. |
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Mr. Zimmer | Some do Easy Pass. Problem with motorcycles: where to put the transponder. |
2:40 pm | Ms. Bents | Segue into ITS issues? |
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Mr. Zimmer | Sealant issues. Types of material vary. Some problematic. Some only problematic in rain. |
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Mr. Bloschock | When addressing maintenance issues, these things will come up. |
2:42 pm | Ms. Bents | Recommendation? |
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Mr. Zimmer | Don't want to miss it. |
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Mr. Halladay | Some are OK. It's the choices the State DOTs make. |
2:43 pm | Mr. Zimmer | Highlighting the edge of metal plates. Somehow need to know where the edge is. |
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Mr. Salontai | Is there a specification for paving? |
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Mr. Bloschock | Not that I'm aware. But, with coloring you'd see it. |
2:45 pm | Ms. Bents | Other topics? |
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Mr. Zimmer | Gravel/water build-up. If there's a perpetual area that has buildup, drainage needs to be looked at—for all. |
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Mr. Hennie | Great use of 800 # for reporting roadway problems. |
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Mr. Bloschock | Once calls continue to come, something will be done. |
2:47 pm | Mr. Salontai | Shoulder construction. Drop-off from pavement, no shoulder at all—know it's right-of-way/cost issues, etc. |
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Mr. Zimmer | Nowhere to pull off—not clear when there's a shoulder vs. when there's not. |
2:49 pm | Ms. Bents | Rumble strips? |
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Mr. Bloschock | Anyone had problems? We use them. |
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Mr. Salontai | In the median... |
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Mr. Zimmer | Where they've been problematic are when in the middle of lane; 4 or 5 sets of them; approached a turn; warning strips. Problem because they're bigger, cause a lot of bumping/vibration. |
2:51 pm | Mr. Bloschock | Ontario made them progressive—more & more bumpy. |
2:52 pm | Ms. Bents | Other topics: design, maintenance, construction? |
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Mr. Hennie | ITS. Main concern is to ensure that motorcycles are considered. Must keep motorcycles in loop. No problems as yet, but this is opportunity to enter concerns. Such as, Easy Pass. Must be considered in future technology. |
2:55 pm | Ms. Bents | An awareness issue, as well. |
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Mr. Zimmer | Stop light sensors that don't pick up the small body of motorcycle. Some states allow motorcycles to pass through before the traffic light changes, but not safe practice. |
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Mr. Hennie | Newer tech moving away from magnets to occupancy/video to detect. |
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Mr. Halladay | There's a range of things being tested; including motorcycle consideration is good. |
2:58 pm | Mr. Bloschock | Awareness. |
Mr. Hennie | Is there anything else that cars are about to use that motorcycles would use as well? | |
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Mr. Halladay | Many things. DOT works on car communication w/road. Don't know extent of motorcycle manufacturer participation. |
3:00 pm | Mr. Salontai | Has to leave. |
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Ms. Bents | Other topics?
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3:03 pm | Mr. Maher | Do we want own motorcycle lanes? |
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Mr. Halladay | Truckers want their own lanes... in process |
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Mr. Zimmer | Lane splitting: partly problematic because cars resent this practice. Better for motorcycles, mechanically. Legal only in CA. Studies in Thailand show positive results. |
3:07 pm | Mr. Halladay | No unique road design? |
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Mr. Zimmer | No. But, something to be looked at. |
3:08 pm | Ms. Bents | For next meeting, please notify of items to be added to agenda. |
3:09 pm | Mr. Zimmer | Who do we communicate with? |
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Mr. Halladay | Have a lot of options. Fran will be available. Morris Oliver, USDOT. |
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Ms. Bents | Preference Morris? |
3:10 pm | Mr. Oliver | Best to go through Fran to filter. |
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Mr. Halladay | All should think how we proceed. |
3:11 pm | Ms. Bents | Action Items:
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3:14 pm | Ms. Bents | Open public comment? |
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Ms. Bents | Review. |
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Mr. Halladay | Responsible for Annual Report to the Secretary. Not necessary for each meeting. Will pull together a report for this/other meeting. As far as official reports from Council, this has not been decided. First report will be sent to all for review/correction. Then observation will move on to proper channels. Suggest an email review, then final. |
3:17 pm | Ms. McDonough | Contract says within 1 ½ month final report from meeting is due. Updates can be sent periodically, e.g., brochures. |
3:18 pm | Mr. Halladay | Power of this Council. What Council produces can be disseminated by each member to solidify/establish future agenda. |
3:20 pm | Mr. Zimmer | Good idea. Peers will want to know what was done. Good to produce something for them. |
3:20 pm | Ms. Van Kleeck | Responding to Mr. Halladay's suggestion that manufacturers be consulted - My organization represents the manufacturers—safety side. |
3:21 pm | Mr. Maher | Another comment: today's focus was primarily on safety. Not beyond purview to consider congestion planning—and how motorcycles relate. |
3:22 pm | Ms. Bents | True. Biggest theme has been "awareness." Give thought to where future meetings should take Council. Others ways motorcyclists can contribute to planning and development. |
3:23 pm | Mr. Zimmer | Metro motorcycle parking. Security may be deterrent. |
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Mr. Halladay | Some fits to what ITS has talked about. Bringing this forward will help. |
3:24 pm | Ms. Bents | Closing comments? |
3:24 pm | Mr. Halladay | Not a rider. Plan to take course. Learned a lot today, but aware of some of the issues. Pleased with the interaction/respect of the Council. A good start. Safety is new Secretary's main concern. |
3:27 pm | Mr. Bloschock | Look forward to a motorcycle-only complaint site. Will monitor. |
3:29 pm | Mr. Halladay | Good to open lines of communication. Wish more outsiders had been here. Will look forward to more attendees at next meetings. |
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Mr. Bloschock | Helps when public has explanation of why things are. |
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Mr. Zimmer | Earlier the relationship between riders and the federal government was adversarial. Now, we're making strides toward progress. |
3:31 pm | Ms. Van Kleeck | www.implementnams.org |
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Mr. Zimmer | Information there may be useful to us. |
3:33 pm | Mr. Halladay | Adjourned |