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Texas County Clerks Prepare for Same-Sex Marriages

Tarrant County won't issue licenses even if the stay is lifted; Bexar County will be open around the clock.
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Cleopatra de Leon, Nicole Dimetman, Vic Holmes and Mark Phariss
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From left, plaintiffs Cleopatra De Leon, Nicole Dimetman, Vic Holmes and Mark Phariss outside San Antonio's federal courthouse in February.

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Same-sex couples in Fort Worth may have to travel to Dallas to obtain marriage licenses if a federal judge lifts his stay of a ruling striking down the state’s same-sex marriage bans.

Meanwhile, the Bexar County clerk said he’s prepared to keep his office open 24 hours a day to accommodate same-sex couples seeking marriage licenses, including those from surrounding counties where clerks may decline to issue them.

Last week, plaintiffs in a federal lawsuit challenging Texas’ marriage bans asked U.S. District Judge Orlando L. Garcia to lift his stay of a February decision striking down the bans. If Garcia lifts the stay, it could create a window for same-sex marriages to occur in Texas before Republican Attorney General Greg Abbott can seek a new stay from the U.S. 5th Circuit Court of Appeals, which is set to hear oral arguments in the case on Jan. 9.

Jeff Nicholson, chief deputy for Tarrant County Clerk Mary Louise Garcia, a Republican, said Tuesday he consulted with the DA’s office about the issue after receiving an inquiry from a citizen.

“They advised us very explicitly that the lifting of the stay by Garcia in San Antonio, which is a different district than the one we’re in, doesn’t have any effect on us,” Nicholson told the Observer. “I think the DA’s position is here, until this is very clearly decided, that Texas law is Texas law, and we’re going to sit tight.”

Ken Upton, Dallas-based senior counsel at the LGBT civil rights group Lambda Legal, said clerks in other states, including Kansas and Missouri, have taken similar positions.

“I don’t think there is anything keeping them from issuing the licenses once the stay is lifted, but an argument could be made that they aren’t required to do so until it [the outcome of the case] becomes final,” Upton said.

Tarrant County Clerk Mary Louise Garcia
Tarrant County Clerk Mary Louise Garcia

Fortunately, same-sex couples from Fort Worth will be able to obtain licenses in Dallas, where Democratic clerk John Warren said he’s prepared to issue them.

“You take an oath to uphold the law, and if the law changes, you’ve got to do it,” Warren said. “If the law says I can’t, then I won’t. If the law says I can, then I will.”

Democratic Republican Bexar County Clerk Gerhard C. “Gerry” Rickhoff said in addition to keeping his office open ’round-the-clock, he’s considering setting up tables in Main Plaza to accommodate same-sex couples. Rickhoff said he’s also lined up district judges to waive a 72-hour waiting period before ceremonies can occur, as well as officiants to conduct them.

“There’s a pent-up demand to stop these civil rights violations that are pretty evident,” Rickhoff said. “I would imagine they’ll be driving into San Antonio in droves, and that’s what we’re prepared for. Nobody will be turned away. We’ll work until there’s nobody left.”

Democratic Travis County Clerk Dana DeBeauvoir said her office will also be ready to extend its hours if Garcia lifts the stay.

DeBeauvoir said she’s also prepared to “flip the switch” on changes to a database that would replace “bride” and “groom” with “Person 1” and “Person 2.”

Call center employees have undergone training to handle inquiries from same-sex couples, and DeBeauvoir has drafted press releases and social media announcements to get the word out.

“I’m hoping for this day,” DeBeauvoir said. “I’m very much looking forward to marriage equality.”

Update: Harris County Clerk Stan Stanart, a Republican, said he would defer to Attorney General Greg Abbott’s office about whether he should issue licenses pending an appeal of Garcia’s decision to lift the stay.

“I’ll be looking to him for guidance,” said Stanart. “If they’re going to immediately appeal and they feel like there’s going to be an immediate stay, I would wait to find out what’s going to happen there.”

Stanart said he personally opposes same-sex marriage but will issue licenses if Texas’ marriage bans are ultimately overturned.

“My duty is to the law, not necessarily to provide a loophole,” Stanart said.

  • matt227

    Any couple that successfully sues is going to ask for attorneys fees as entitled by law and practice, and so long as the clerk and county taxpayers are aware, each of these cases costs hundreds of thousands of dollars. Grandstanding is nothing more than that – quixotic and ultimately costly for the state.

    • CptSmashy

      Yep. How much money (Texas taxpayer money) has Greg Abbot already wasted on his religious crusade against equal protection under the law?

  • Steve Basile

    Bravo to the Republican Clerk in Bexar, and our own Dana deB. here in Travis for being ready!

  • Devilsfan23

    Lot of flaws in Tarrant County’s arguement

    • Peter

      Yeah the notion that the federal judicial district inside the state matters for purposes of conforming to a federal order striking down a state ban is sheer nonsense.

    • George M Melby

      Yeah, but they are entertaining. You can’t make this crap up!

  • 1bimbo

    no christian justice of the peace will be forced to perform a homosexual ‘marriage’.. no matter how much liberals would love to have christians defy their faith… next here come the lawsuits and new laws passed by the legislature to protect religious liberty.. don’t expect texas to lie down like the other states which are subjecting themselves to judicial tyranny

    • Peter

      You don’t understand what it means to hold public office and you certainly don’t understand what a ministerial duty is. A JP is not entitled to refuse to perform a legal marriage. A Christian JP can’t refuse to perform a marriage between atheists or Muslims or anything else just based on their own personal preference.

      • Mike Palmer

        The United States Constitution specifically PROHIBITS using religion as a test to hold public office. So if their mythology and superstitions prevent them from doing their job, they should be removed from office.

        • 1bimbo

          i don’t care if you put ‘prohibits’ in all caps and rainbow letters.. not going to happen

          • George M Melby

            Poor soul, you are. And just what will you do when it DOES happen, eh???

        • George M Melby

          As has happened already in several States, county clerks have had to resign, or have been fired for refusing to administer or offer marriage licenses to any or all couples. They can go without jobs if they so desire.

          • Digger P.

            George goes without sex with little boys on Thursday’s. Please do not start talking about what you desire, last time all of your NAMBLA friends got all excited and started popping off!

      • 1bimbo

        such horsesh*t.. i can’t wait until you send in the police to ‘arrest’ the JP for not performing a homosexual ‘marriage’.. not….. and 69 ‘guest’ votes.. whoa! all those strangers come to texOb just to thumb you up. ha!

        • George M Melby

          You really don’t get it, do you, Bimb? Months ago, you said the same things when we were sitting at 19 States with marriage equality. We’ve chalked up a number of States since, and you’re still singing the same tune off-pitch. What are you gonna do when the number reaches 48-49-the big 5-0 States. Will you be selling tickets to your show? I’ll bring the popcorn!

      • George M Melby

        I say, let Bimbo find out the hard way, what will, and will not be legal. He’ll need medication immediately, lolol.

        • Digger P.

          Bill Cosby normally gives his medication to George in a drink right before sex, not that George always remembers!!

    • Donald Buchanan Jr.

      This has absolutely nothing to do with Christians. Freedom of religion doesn’t mean freedom to force your religion on other people. Who I want to marry is none of your fucking business.

      • George M Melby

        Hint: Bimbo is a christian… not a Christian. Biiiiiig difference!

      • VoiceofReason

        Donald, I disagree, you can’t say it has nothing to do with Christians, as I told F’ING 1bimbo, many gay couples are Christians and want to PROUDLY proclaim their love in front of God, their family and friends. I would GLADLY be marrying my soul mate from 28 years ago, but he is now passed on.

    • http://twitter.com/xrystopher Christopher Journey

      You sir, are an imbecile

      • 1bimbo

        i’m a woman and a liberty-loving one at that.. can’t force anyone to violate their moral conscience.. just like their are conscientious objectors in the military, there will be JPs who do the same

        • George M Melby

          And they’re welcome to do the same… scram!

    • Jerry Cheryl Ard

      You do realize that the guy community have their own churches that are Christians and these churches allow who so ever will can join the Church. …..

      • JTaylor184

        Quite a nice thought.

      • George M Melby

        You are spot on the mark! As a retired Baptist minister, I’ve seen plenty of these backyard armchair theologician magicians Telling other people how to live. They have not a leg to stand on. In fact, Jesus warns mightily against these (I think you call them)… hypocrites!

        • Julie E. Harris

          George Melby, I like the way you think…

    • JTaylor184

      Shut your face. No one is forcing anyone to do anything. You cannot deny one and permit another.

    • CptSmashy

      Religious liberty does not mean forcing your archaic, narrowminded religious views onto other people that do not share the same dogmatic beliefs. Religious liberty is just that. Liberty. Liberty being granted to ALL beliefs, not just yours.

    • raytheist

      A Justice of the Peace is an officer of the court, and as such must follow the civil laws of his jurisdiction. It is not a religious post, nor does his personal religion factor into the process of simply doing the job he is paid to do. His personal religion pertains to how he conducts his personal life, which is entirely his own business; I find it amusing that so many “Christians” forget that the New Testament is quite clear in teaching that governments are supposedly established by “god”, and that believers in god are to be followers of the civil laws in which they live.

    • Snexas

      Should Christian justices of the peace have to marry atheists, what about Hindus? Your argument is ridiculous. We’re talking about government, not churches. If the justices of the peace aren’t able to work within a diverse, secular society, then maybe they need to go become pastors & work for a church.

      • George M Melby

        Please, NO. We have enough imbecile ministers in imbecile churches. No more, please!

    • Snexas

      Also it’s actually anti-freedom of religion to deny homosexuals the right to marry since there are entire religions & sects of most religions that allow homosexual marriage. How is it fair to deny them the right to have their church’s marriages not recognized by law?

    • Erin

      bimbo

    • imbok

      Thank you for providing the best possible argument for the separation of church and state. We are a nation of laws, not of enforcing religious belief. If a JP cannot follow the law, they should resign immediately and allow someone who will to take their place.

    • head_2_wall

      Gotta love bigotry justified by religion. Move to the middle east with the other wacko zealots where you belong.

    • Chel

      How can you speak of faith and christianity and have a screen name like BIMBO!? Please don’t speak, you sound silly.

      • 1bimbo

        you’re not the judge of me

        • George M Melby

          You judge yourself, Bimba (female); Bimbo (male). Get your Spanish straight!

    • Kevin Schmidt

      Where in the Bible does it say homosexuality is a sin? There are lots of passages that say adultery is a sin and that adulterers should be stoned to death. Even Jesus never spoke on the subject. Although we know we would walk with both the homosexuals and the homophobes.
      Of course, we all know homophobes are actually in the closet about their own gayness.

      • 1bimbo

        no such word as ‘homophobe’.. just made up by liberals to silence those who don’t agree with homosexuality advocacy.. we won’t be silent

        • Kevin Schmidt

          The word is in the dictionary, and it was not “just made up by liberals.” It was coined by George Weinberg, a psychologist, in the 1960s.
          It’s not my fault you can’t stand the truth and deny reality.

    • Nelson Kerr

      they can’t be forced. But if they refuse to do their job, as defined by law, they should not be paid..

      • 1bimbo

        but they will be paid by the county they were elected in and there’s nothing the feds or anyone else can do about it but sue and then the county doesn’t pay and then sue some more and then whine and then sue and the county doesn’t pay.. it’s an endless loop

        • George M Melby

          You’re not really a very smart fella, are you, Lady? Oops… lassie.

          • Digger P.

            You used smart and fella in the same sentence creepy George.

      • George M Melby

        Not paid? They will be fired or have to resign in disgrace.

        • Digger P.

          George knows all to well about resigning in disgrace, but then most of what Georgie does is a disgrace. Did you give the little boy back his underwear?

    • George M Melby

      Texas has already laid down and is in the midst of being trampled on as we speak. Good to see you again, Bimbo, still screaming, wailing, and gnashing your christian teeth because the world is changing, even in your little patch of weeds. Keep whining… we’ll keep laughing! ;-)

      • Digger P.

        Just stop squealing while Billy Bob humps you please!! I know it turns your husband on but is very loud and annoying!

    • VoiceofReason

      1bimbo, Go back to Hell where you came from with your perpetual EVIL DEMONIC TROLLING !! and GUESS WHAT !! The majority of GAY couples ARE CHRISTIANS, you pathetic moron !!

  • Jonah Stanton

    Now there’s a funny new argument, being in a different district. Unfortunately for the Tarrant County DA (seriously, this guy is a lawyer and doesn’t understand the court system?) that simply isn’t how U.S. District Courts work. Seriously, this guy is a lawyer and doesn’t understand the court system? Kind of like how Kansas thinks the federal ruling only applies to two of its counties. I can’t believe this money-wasting idiocy.

    • Debra Cleaver

      I agree with you, but county clerks aren’t attorneys.

    • George M Melby

      You ought to live in this un-utopia State of Kansas under the leadership of Gov. Brownshit’s Mafia. Amazingly backward State of Denial!

      • Julie E. Harris

        I feel for you…Texas is bad enough, but San Antonio is progressive

  • raytheist

    It is marvelous that some clerks are preparing to do the right thing. Personally I would prefer they all wait until a ruling is final and binding on the entire state, since I think it is just a matter of time now. I would not, however, encourage the idea of holding the offices open 24/7 or waiving the normal legal waiting period — this sort of ploy only encourages the false idea that gays want “special rights”. The less we make a show of it, the less others will make a fuss. Pass the laws, change the rules, and proceed with business as normal issuing licenses during normal business hours.

    • matt227

      Some couples have been waiting for decades. It’s straights whom have had the special rights.

      • raytheist

        Yes, I completely agree. I just hate to see couples rushing into it, only to risk having their hopes dashed with continued appeals. And even if some clerks do begin to process same-sex couples for wedding license, just keep the same regular county clerk office hours and not make a show of keeping special hours or waiving the normal waiting period. The sooner every state has same-sex marriage, the better off the nation will be.

  • Andy Wesley

    Nothing more entertaining than reading comments of clueless religious nuts! Now go ask your daddy what your next move is.

  • Tigernan Quinn

    Can someone help me clear this article up? I live in Dallas, but Bexar is down south – if Tarrant is saying no they won’t do it, how would Dallas couples get married in Dallas?

    • Katie

      Dallas is in Dallas County, Fort Worth is in Tarrant.

  • Samantha Kaythe

    Does anyone know how to volunteer to be an officiant? I’d love to help!

    • http://www.joylutheranchurchtx.org/ Rev. David Joy

      I would also volunteer my services

  • christian

    Send this old creep in Houston a personal message at : https://www.facebook.com/stanstanart?fref=ts

  • Kris Weibel

    Garcia is going to lift the stay and the 5th circuit will overrule. The 5th circuit hates Garcia as much as they hate Obama. Too bad.

    • George M Melby

      Ahhhhh, but then, the Marriage Equality will appeal to the SCOTUS! And they will rule in Marriage Equality’s favor. The irreligious unrighteous have lost over 40 cases and that is what has given us so much success! Texas will indeed fall… mightily!

  • Matthew Andras

    congratulations to all the couples that could potentially soon be married. my partner and I took the plunge last Monday, traveling to Asheville from ATL to have a civil ceremony performed. it feels strange after 24 years to suddenly call him my husband, but at the same time it feels good too. we never imagined we’d see any of this in our lifetimes, and feel very lucky.

    • Julie E. Harris

      Congratulations! !

  • Jessica C.

    I’m wondering does anyone know if the county issuing licenses will only do so for couples living in that county? For example if I lived in Harris County could I go to the issuing county to obtain a marriage license if this passes?

  • afisher

    I’d love to see this happen – for all my LGBT friends who want nothing more than to have the same rights as every other loving couple and to have the same legal rights as all married couples.

  • CC

    I wonder what Mayor Parker and the first lady think about the Harris County Clerk.

  • Keith Pullman

    There is no good reason to deny that we must keep evolving until an adult, regardless of gender, sexual orientation, monogamy or polyamory, race, or religion is free to share love, sex, residence, and marriage (and any of those without the others) with any and all consenting adults. Polyamory, polygamy, open relationships are not for everyone, but they are for some. The limited same-gender freedom to marry is a great and historic step, but is NOT full marriage equality, because equality “just for some” is not equality. Let’s stand up for EVERY ADULT’S right to marry the person(s) they love. Get on the right side of history!

    • JeffreyRO55

      There is no right to marry the person you love, and that’s not the basis for the legal argument for striking down same-sex marriage bans. This is an issue of equal treatment under the law. The constitution does not apply only to straight people.

      It is not unconstitutional to ban citizens from having more than one spouse, nor is it unconstitutional to ban citizens from marrying a sibling or close relative. Why? Because such prohibitions apply equally to all citizens, unlike the prohibition against same-sex marriage, which impacts only gay people.

      • Keith Pullman

        Most of the people or whom I am speaking up are not heterosexual, but rather LGBT. SOme LGBT people (and heteros) are polyamorous just like they are right or left handed. It will be found unconstitutional from restricting the fundamental right to marry based on the arbitrary restrictions of number or relation. We do not say people can only exercise their fundamental rights once or with one person at a time or only with someone who is not closely related. Freedom of association, freedom of religion are stronger than arbitrary or religion-based prohibitions when it comes to the Constitution.

        • JeffreyRO55

          No, it won’t be held unconstitutional to ban having more than one spouse, because that prohibition applies to all citizens equally. Arbitrary rules are fine, so long as they apply equally to everyone. Limitations based on “number of people in the marriage” aren’t arbitrary, in any event, as there are rational reasons to limit marriage to couples only. In any event, if people who wish to have more than one spouse can convince everyone that it’s a good idea, then society may permit it. But banning it doesn’t violate anyone’s constitutional rights, for reasons I’ve stated. Legally, it is two very different things involved: denying a specific minority the right to have a spouse, and denying everyone, equally, the right to have more than one spouse.

          • Keith Pullman

            You’re using the same argument used against interracial and same-gender marriages; in the very same way, those prohibitions were applied to “all citizens equally.” An African American couldn’t marry someone of a different race, but neither could a white person. That the ban on polygamy applies to hetero people and LGBT people alike doesn’t mean it isn’t denying equality, because it is denying equality to polyamorous people, many of whom are LGBT.

            Denying the polyamorous or polygamous freedom to marry is also
            denying a minority the right to marry as they want, including religious
            minorities and people who are polyamorous as part of who they are. I
            think we have enough human history to demonstrate that some people are
            polyamorous rather than monogamous, and couldn’t be monogamous under
            threat of losing everything.

            I’d be interested in hearing a rational reason why the number has to be 2 or why, if two people are married, a third person couldn’t be added if that is what everyone agreed to. The usual “reasons” for denying this right to marry seem to mostly be “my religion is against that” or “my wife wouldn’t let me get away with that” or “I won’t want that” or “I think it is disgusting.” None of those are good, rational reasons for denying someone else their freedom of association and right to marry.

  • George M Melby

    I can just hear those Teapublican conservative extremist piggies squealing over this “ativist action.” LOLOL. You’re goin’ down, Abbott, all the way to the bottom! Cheers and kudos for all the newly-wed GLBT people!

  • Nicko Thime

    “Tarrant County won’t issue licenses even if the stay is lifted”
    Because freedom.

    I’ve gotten to a point where I wouldn’t piss on a rightwinger or christian if they were on fire. I’d break out marshmallows instead.

  • frostyml

    It’s about time that our great state of TX. joined the 21st Century!! Any person should have the right to marry the person they love, whether they be LGBT or hetero.!!