DART Is Confused About What Frequency Means to Its Riders

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One of these things is not like the others.
There is no worse feeling as a DART commuter than seeing your bus pull off seconds before you complete your jaywalk/sprint to the bus stop. The frustration of almost making it is bad enough, the fact that you'll have to wait a long time -- sometimes over an hour -- for the next bus to come is that much worse.

When DART asked its riders "What's important to you?" in a poll, "more frequent service" was far and away the top answer, which points out two of the primary issues in using DART for anything more than commuting to and from downtown. The first, the punishing feeling described above, is obvious. The second is more subtle, but is perhaps the greatest impediment to using DART as people in large cities typically use public transportation.

Because of the precision required to make those infrequent buses, it's nearly impossible to simply get out and use DART. You can't take DART to the grocery store because being in a checkout line slightly longer than you anticipated means you miss your return bus and your Ben and Jerry's melts at the bus stop. You can't tell a date you'll meet her at 7 because when you check the schedules you realize that you can either get to the restaurant at 6:42 or 7:22. You can't take DART to see the Cowboys because -- wait that's another issue.

DART deserves a little credit for at least nodding toward the issue. A new survey put out by the agency asks riders what frequency means to them. More bluntly, DART wants to know the bare minimum service level it can get away with. Only one of the choices -- the shortest time frame, 10-15 minutes -- even approaches something that could be described as "frequent." Anyone who would consider a bus that comes every 60 minutes as "frequent" is clearly a DART employee or from Midland.

DART is only usable of you plan each movement down to the minute. You can't just get out and use the system the way you can other cities' transit system. You can't just get out and explore because the chances of getting stuck for an extended period and the learning curve for DART buses and trains is so steep. Peter Simek at D Magazine correctly pointed out that the D-Link, one of DART's few buses that runs with any frequency -- every 15 minutes between 11 and 11 -- has a route that's nearly impossible to understand. If you looked at the linked map, getting it is hard enough. If you try to figure it out on the fly, you're just as likely to end up taking the full loop than getting to your destination with any sort of efficiency.

Simek suggests that rerouting DART's buses for efficiency and adding more trips would be a cheap way to improve service as the agency struggles to fund the second train line through downtown and other fanciful, far-off projects like the long-debated Cotton Belt rail line. In a vacuum, he's right. Dropping or heavily modifying DART's many meandering, low-ridership suburban routes to better serve Dallas' urban core -- you know, the people who actually want to use public transit -- would benefit the system. The thing is, that will never happen.

DART's original sin was getting in bed with its suburban partners. Taking sales tax money from the likes of Plano, Rowlett and Garland means that residents of the cities have as much of a right to be fairly served by DART as the city of Dallas itself. They are DART members because of those meandering, low-ridership suburban routes. Good luck explaining to them why they can't catch their express bus to their job in the CBD because more frequent trips between Oak Cliff and East Dallas benefit the system as a whole.



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lilbit810
lilbit810

I never truly appreciate how stupid our population is here in Dallas until I read the comments on the Observer. Sheesh. 

noblefurrtexas
noblefurrtexas topcommenter

Really good service would be 4 per hour.  But, "frequent" would be every 20 minutes or three per hour.

(Four per hour was the DTS standard for busy times on busy routes, I'm told.)



noblefurrtexas
noblefurrtexas topcommenter

It's time to get serious about DART.  When its creation was approved by voters in the very early 80s, it was taking over for the Dallas Transit System which, arguably, ran good schedules, good frequency, low costs, and adaptive special uses.  One of the most important reasons DART was passed was its promise to keep or improve on the schedules and frequencies of the DTS.  The longer range light rail was not yet an issue. 


Today, we have a DART transit system that is NOT working, suffers from high crime, cannot keep dependable schedules, does not have sufficient frequency during high-usage times, and doesn't seem to care if it adapts to truly service the City and those communities who came into the system. 


Frankly, DART would do well to hire Phil Cobb - McKinney Trolley system -  as a consultant, and get their act together before there is a taxpayer revolt. 


DART's costs have not been kept under control, and it wastes money on all kinds of things.  DART promised a high percentage of its ridership would pay the lion's share of system costs at the farebox, and the rest would come from taxes.  Well...THAT hasn't worked out well at all. 


Along with its solemn pledge NOT to ever engage in long-range borrowing and debt, DART made other promises to the community if they would vote "Yes". 


It's time to go back and review their promises, and keep them.  It's just too bad the DART Board won't hold the agency's feet to the fire.

sweetliberty17761776
sweetliberty17761776 topcommenter

stop your tax drain and spend those billions on fixing your roads and keeping the thugs in jail

jf2good
jf2good

I live in the suburbs, well the suburbs is relative anymore as where I live in Carrollton is turning very urban and the suburbs are now all the traffic headed north on my local street to places like little elm. The problem is not suburbs, but the routes and freaking long time to get anywhere with DART, so I drive.  Yes the green line is very close to my home, but even in terrible traffic I can get to downtown faster than the green line.  If the green line is too slow for me, why would I ever use DART bus service?


What make sense is express buses to urban transit centers and express buses to malls and a few major shopping districts and then connecting those to downtown routes which operate more frequently.  There is no need for suburban bus routes outside of transit centers or a mall. 

I tried to figure out how to take the green line to Love field, something you think would be easy, after looking at DART's website I gave up and drove, something that easy should be a no brainer.  I have no idea what it would cost nor when I would arrive and that just doesn't work. 


Last of all, even if I was to take an express bus to a urban bus route, it needs to be a simple to understand route that intersect with other routes on a timely manner using the KISS principle, Keep It Simple Stupid.

WhoisJohnGalt
WhoisJohnGalt

Time to redo the finances so the vast majority of us get to stop forking over sales tax money for a government bus we'll never set foot onto.

RTGolden1
RTGolden1 topcommenter

"...better serve the Dallas' urban core -- you know, the people who actually want to use public transit..."

Yeah. To hell with Pleasant Grove, South Dallas and the rest of Oak Cliff (we know when you say Oak Cliff, you mean Bishop Arts).  To hell with the people who need to use DART.  We've got hipsters who need to get from one trendy district to another without having to walk or ride their little bicycles amongst the lower class.

patrick.j.kennedy
patrick.j.kennedy

This is exactly right.  During peak hours 15 minute headways should be the absolute minimum.  If Houston just overhauled their routes, then surely we can.  Or do they have more of that Texas Can Do spirit?

ScottsMerkin
ScottsMerkin topcommenter

you actually could take public transport to the cowboys game.  Catch Dart to Union, take TRE to CentrePort, take the MAX bus to UTA and enjoy a nice walk over to the stadium!  It wouldnt take nearly as long as your trip to Michael Morris' house...but why do that when you can drive and be there in under 30 minutes

ThePosterFormerlyKnownasPaul
ThePosterFormerlyKnownasPaul topcommenter

Stephen, Stephen, Stephen, you have wonderful lofty ideals worthy of any young man.


Unfortunately, DART is not in the business of transporting people throughout the Dallas and suburban Dallas area.


It is an organization that is set up to spend a 1 cent (Where is the "cent" symbol when you need it?) sales tax; and, federal transportation grants by operating a transit system.


That does not necessarily mean that it is a transit agency that has as its main goal operating a transit system that is convenient and useful to people in the area.

darryldallas
darryldallas

To me, having a public transportation system planned and run by people who do not use public transportation is a BIG PROBLEM! It does not help matters that most of these planners and decision makers do not even live on or near a bus line or train station.


Why put folks in charge who fundamentally do not GET it? I think that they should be forced to ride the bus and the train at least once a month and at various times of the day so that they can actually see and experience the monster they have created -- especially south of the Trinity. For example, ride from Downtown to Southwest Center Mall for lunch starting at 11:30 then get back in time for a 1:30 meeting in your office.

kduble
kduble

@jf2good  I, too, would have preferred DART had tunneled a direct Love Field connection. Had it done so, however, we wouldn't be having this conversation, because it would have sucked up so much of the expansion funds that Carrollton would still be waiting for rail.

TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

@ColonelAngus

That's rather funny.

jerry_leeper
jerry_leeper

@RTGolden1 Or that most important of mass transit uses, the every other year trip to the airport.

kduble
kduble

True. What Houston's overhaul presumes is that riders should be willing to walk a little bit. So, they've eliminated some meandering, lower-performing routes, and used the freed-up resources to increase frequency on more popular ones. Some of the savings could be used as well for shelters to make waiting less daunting.

wcvemail
wcvemail topcommenter

@patrick.j.kennedy


Especially considering Houston's roots as a designed-for-cars city, and the population's love of single-rider cars, the city is doing a very good job of offering mass transit as an option.

noblefurrtexas
noblefurrtexas topcommenter

@ThePosterFormerlyKnownasPaul 
Since you're essentially typing on DO's system, you'd have to ask them what the ASCII key code is for their font to type the cent notation.  Some systems won't let you type anything but standard codes. 



Voot
Voot

@ThePosterFormerlyKnownasPaul 

Exactly.

I'd bet serious money that individuals who would actually use a public bus service could collectively contract for the vehicles, drivers, fuel, maintenance and routes at a fraction of what DART consumes of the public treasure merely to perpetuate its bureaucracy. 

MikeWestEast
MikeWestEast

@darryldallas  I remember going by the DART HQ during the Super Bowl storm and saw it essentially empty.  I have to believe that absence had a lot to do with the woeful response during that period.  They could not drive in the ice/snow and did not want/know how to ride the buses/trains. 

SensicalExpress
SensicalExpress

I think they should be elected like the Dallas County Schools Board.

They are appointed by the member cities' councils and they only appoint their fat-rich friends.

noblefurrtexas
noblefurrtexas topcommenter

@Beenjamman @noblefurrtexas I'd agree.  However, TXDOT is not a function of a local vote by the citizens.  DART has an ethical obligation to do what it said it would do, and to provide the kind of service it promised. 



sweetliberty17761776
sweetliberty17761776 topcommenter

@kduble @sweetliberty17761776


freedom might cost more but its worth it

Dub919
Dub919

@jerry_leeper @RTGolden1 Every other year? Speak for yourself.  It's not our fault you don't get out much.


Having a transit link to airports is something that is absolutely needed...both for those of us who use it often but, almost more importantly, for those who don't live here.

ScottsMerkin
ScottsMerkin topcommenter

Go to Monday night football. Or start your trip Saturday and spend a lovely weekend in arlington lol

ThePosterFormerlyKnownasPaul
ThePosterFormerlyKnownasPaul topcommenter

@Voot @ThePosterFormerlyKnownasPaul 

I looked at the cost to extend the DART light rail line to DFW Airport.

I figured that it would actually have been cheaper to fund a trust fund and then use the earnings of the trust fund to pay for taxi trips in CNG or Hybrid vehicles for the number of riders that are projected for the light rail line.

kduble
kduble

@SensicalExpress  Sometimes I think so, too, but we're electing so many people now to so many things our ballots are too long. The more positions appear on a ballot, the fewer voters tune in.

noblefurrtexas
noblefurrtexas topcommenter

@Beenjamman @noblefurrtexas I am a strong supporter of the intent voters had when they created DART, and I am ever hopeful DART will someday live up to those mandates. 


I think there are a number of improvements over DTS in terms of unique services.  But, where the routine daily services are involved, and used by most riders, it's woefully  inadequate and its service delivery is poor. 

It's also fair criticism that DART takes forever to solve problems and make a decision.  We had a crime problem on DART trains almost since they first started running, but it took forever to put security guards on the trains, and there are still no plain-clothes officers. 

A neighbor with a concealed carry permit who frequently rides DART and the light rails said he would never use either without being armed.  And, I can't blame him. 

 



kduble
kduble

@noblefurrtexas  The fact he has a CHP means he probably has insecurity issues. I've ridden the system daily for years with no issues other than an occasional panhandler or hearing someone talking to himself.

Myrna.Minkoff-Katz
Myrna.Minkoff-Katz topcommenter

@noblefurrtexas  And I have a neighbor who thinks he's the re-incarnation of Henry VIII.  Every public transport system has crime issues to some degree, but where is the proof that riding DART is so dangerous?  Take the NY subway sometimes, then compare.  Oh...btw, your neighbor is far more likely to be the victim of road rage in his car than encountering any violence riding DART.

noblefurrtexas
noblefurrtexas topcommenter

@Myrna.Minkoff-Katz For years, DART had almost no crime issues other than passengers getting into disputes with each other or the drivers.  But, crime seemed to grow on the light rails until DART had so many complaints - many from police - that they had to beef up security, resort to cameras at the stations, and put some plain clothes people on the routes with the most criminal complaints. 


But, there is still a problem, although not as bad.


Having ridden the New York subway tons of times, I'd agree with you.  And, it's not all about crime.  I would NEVER ride that system with a child.  LOL


Two of the best I've seen are the Seattle monorail, and the Tokyo subway system.  Very low crime - if any at all, and totally clearn.

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