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Texas Has Issued Seven Times More Auctioneers’ Licenses than Voter ID Cards

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It’s another election season in Texas. Another year that we’re on track to maintain the nation’s most dismal voter turnout.

One difference this year is that voters are now required to present photo ID at the polls, the result of Republican-authored legislation ostensibly to deal with the diminishingly small number of voter fraud cases. It’s difficult to say what effect the voter ID requirement is having, though even some Republican state officials apparently knew that more than half a million registered Texas voters—disproportionately Hispanic and African American—lacked the credentials to cast ballots but didn’t bother to tell lawmakers.

One thing is certain: Very, very few Texans have gotten election identification certificates (EIC), the new state-issued form of photo ID for those who don’t have it—340 Texans, to be precise.

That’s less than two thousandths of a percent of Texas’ voting age population. That’s only a little more than one EIC for each of Texas’ 254 counties. And many counties haven’t had a single citizen obtain an EIC. Another way to slice the numbers: There are more licensed auctioneers (2,454) in Texas than there are people with EICs—more than seven times as many in fact. In Harris County, with more than 4.3 million people, a poverty rate of 18 percent and 70 percent people of color, there are 186 licensed auctioneers but just 21 EICs. There are more licenses for boxing judges in Lubbock County (4) than there are voters with EICs (3). There are more licensed elevator inspectors in Dallas County (35) than voters with EICs (28). And so on….

“It’s heartbreaking,” said Myrna Perez, deputy director of the voting rights project at the Brennan Center for Justice. “The information about the EIC has been dreadful. Nobody knows about it.”

There’s also the issue of cost and convenience. An estimated 400,000 eligible voters face round trips of three hours or more to get a photo ID from a Texas Department of Public Safety office, a fact noted by Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg in her stern dissent from a recent ruling leaving Texas’ ID requirement in place for this election. Most people will need a birth certificate to get an EIC, which can be costly and time-consuming to obtain. And an EIC really comes into use a few times a year at most.

“You can’t use the EIC for anything other than voting,” Perez said. “It’s a pain in the neck to get and then you can’t use it for anything else.”

It’s possible that folks were able to obtain another of the seven approved forms of photo ID. DPS reports that it has received 1,850 inquiries about voter ID and “many of the individuals” already had the photo ID they needed to vote. But it seems much more likely that the paltry number of EICs so far means that significant numbers of people who would otherwise be voting, simply aren’t.

With so few EICs issued it’s hard to see any particular patterns in this geographic breakdown. Hidalgo County, one of the poorest and most Hispanic-heavy parts of the state, leads with a whopping 41 EICs. The other big urban counties share double-digit numbers of EICs, whereas rural counties show just a handful apiece—or none. According to DPS’ data, three quarters of all Texas counties—190—didn’t report a single EIC.

Forrest Wilder, a native of Wimberley, Texas, is associate editor of the Observer. Forrest specializes in environmental reporting and runs the “Forrest for the Trees” blog. Forrest has appeared on Democracy Now!, The Rachel Maddow Show and numerous NPR stations. His work has been mentioned by The New York Times, the Washington Post, the New Yorker, Time magazine and many other state and national publications. Other than filing voluminous open records requests, Forrest enjoys fishing, kayaking, gardening and beer-league softball. He holds a bachelor's degree in anthropology from the University of Texas at Austin.

  • PrattonTexas

    “Texas Has Issued Seven Times More Auctioneers’ Licenses than Voter ID Cards” – Yes, because so few need the photo ID card to vote as they already have such.

    • Forrest Wilder

      What do you base that on? Evidence presented at trial showed more than 600,000 registered Texas voters lack photo ID. As the above story notes, GOP state officials acknowledged that at least more than 500,000 of the state’s registered voters did not have the credentials needed to cast ballots under the new requirement.

      • Paul Hanson

        Forrest,

        Thats matching up TXDL with Voter Registrations. That doesn’t factor in ID cards, CHL’s, Passports, Military ID’s and other ID’s which are valid. There are many people living here with out TXDL’s due to moving from other states. The ID was created to give free ID cards to people who might need it without costs, but honestly, this is a minor issue and more of a feat tactic. USA is only of the few countries in the world that do not have voter ID laws.

        • Guest

          Actually, the 500,000 figure is for those who were registered in Texas but lacked any of the seven forms of state-issued ID, including CHL, passports, etc.

          • Paul Hanson

            So let me ask you this, if Texas resolved the ID issue and made ID’s easier to obtain, you would have no problem with Voter ID?

          • Mortalc01l

            Here’s a question. Was a photo ID required to vote for Lincoln, or Washington, or even Reagan??? NO.. Photo ID requirement is unconstitutional and an undue burden on voters that makes it a poll tax.

            We all know what this is really about; in all the Republican led inquiries over the last 5 years, there have been near ZERO instances of in person voter fraud – A recent study showed that in over 1.17 BILLION votes cast in the last few elections there have been 31 cases of in person voter fraud.. 31..!!! Such an inconsequential number that disenfranchising millions of voters to prevent it is fraudulent, anti-American, traitorous and unconstitutional – just a blatant attempt by the Republican party to suppress the legal right of voters to participate in the elections.

          • Sean

            I would have no problem with Voter ID requirements if a free ID card was provided to all voting age citizens.

            However I think voter ID laws are completely unnecessary due to the low amount of voter ID fraud. Why introduce additional burdens/hurdles on freedoms and fundamental rights when none are needed? I take the same stance on gun control.

          • skippy

            Don’t forget side expenses when you say free. 3+ hours of transportation isn’t free, nor is acquiring necessary documentation. Or fees to fix documentation if there is an error, like a misspelling.

          • Sean

            That is fine. I see no reason the government couldn’t mail out an ID card to everyone.

          • skippy

            Oh I agree. But the fact that they don’t seem interested in doing that speaks volumes to me.

          • 1bimbo

            wrong

        • Forrest Wilder

          The 500,000 figure comes from an analysis performed by the (Republican) Secretary of State compared registered voters in Texas to a DPS database of photo IDs, not just DLs.

          It is referenced in the district court decision:

          “There was evidence that Senator Tommy Williams requested that the DPS ID databases be compared to the SOS registered voter database to get an idea of how many voters would not have the required photo That database match was performed by the SOS, but the results showing 504,000 to 844,000 voters being without Texas photo ID were not released to the legislature.”

          http://electionlawblog.org/wp-content/uploads/20141009-TXID-Opinion.pdf

  • Paul Hanson

    Is it because you don’t need an EIC if you have a license or other official ID to vote? Drivers Licenses, Military ID cards, Passports, Citizenship documents and Texas ID’s. There are 13 million eligible voters in Texas with 18 million people of voter age. 13.5 Million people have Texas drivers licenses. This is not a big story. There is law which states you can not tax or have cost to vote. This card was created because it’s free.

    • John Cram

      Free, less all the cost to get it. Or is there a FREE ride to the place that issues it? Free, unless of course you first have to get a (out of) state issued copy of your birth certificate or worse yet other country. Yes, it’s FREE… about as FREE as the fools in Texas think they are. Everything is BIGGER in TEXAS,especially the aholes.

      • Nico

        It sounds like it would be easier for them to get a non-driver ID from the local DMV rather than drive to the (apparently) one place that is issuing EICs. Though I’m still undecided on how I feel about voter ID laws, I really don’t think that getting an ID from the DMV is prohibitively difficult.

        • Vape Escape

          If voter ID is going to be the new thing, the honest thing to do would be to pass legislation and wait 2-3 election cycles before implementing it in order for as many people as possible to obtain them.

          What we are seeing is these laws are passed and implemented very close to election cycles. Since voter fraud is almost non-existent, these laws being passed and implemented so close to election time means their sole purpose is to disenfranchise as many voters as possible.

          • TheGCU

            Exactly. If they were really meant to protect against voter impersonation (not voter fraud, which IDs don’t prevent), the state should mail one out to every person of voting age, for free. An ID card that’s only used for voting, issued by the state, at no charge.

  • Haywood_Yassumi

    Absurd premise — it’s because nearly every voter has a driver’s license. Get over it, Libs.

    • Xenrae

      ‘Fraid not. 500,000 voters without ID. It was a deliberate scheme to remove democrats from the voter pool, and it worked. You can’t get people to vote for your ideas with hate and fear, so remove the competition. I’m sure you’re so proud.

      • Mike W. Taylor

        Want to vote? Care enough to get an ID. Period. End of story. If that’s all it takes to keep someone from voting, they just don’t give a damn.

        • http://amfortasthehippie.blogspot.com/ josef d. pinter

          I got my Voter ID. Looks like this.
          If this isn’t enough, then the problem would seem to be in the SOS office.

          http://www.collindemocrats.org/wp-content/uploads/Voter-Registration-Card-2014-2015.png

          • 1bimbo

            for accuracy’s sake!! that’s not a voter ID.. that’s a voter registration card .. there is a difference.. you don’t even have to have the registration card with you to vote, but you do have to have one of the 7 forms of valid photo ID.. you’re another dumbdemocrat spreading misinformation-again

          • http://amfortasthehippie.blogspot.com/ josef d. pinter

            why not save a step, is all i’m saying. ignorant troll.
            did yer goat run away?
            Jeeez.

          • Marshall Collins

            Nah, you’re a dumbass.

          • TheGCU

            Your voter ID seems to be lacking a spot for a photo of the holder. Doesn’t that make it useless as an ID?

        • jb

          except for the fact that its a poll tax, which is unconstitutional, right? you want to require IDs to vote – provide free ID’s for everyone in your state, and provide government infrastructure to go to senior/assisted/poor living facilities to guarantee everyone who wants to vote can obtain a free ID

        • Sean

          My wife has been trying to register to vote after we moved to a new house in early October. She has submitted her paperwork and called the registration office, but still has not been registered and does not appear on their rolls.

          Because she is taking care of her sick mother she has not had a chance to go down directly to the office and it looks like she will not be able to vote this year.

          This is just to get signed up to vote… I can only imagine the pain and process to get identification if you have never had it before. If you think that process is easy… then I dont know what to say.

          • Marshall Collins

            When I moved to Texas in 2004, I registered my cars, got a Texas drivers license, and registered to vote all in one visit. My son did similar when he moved from out of state to Texas a year later. I’ve moved to five other states in my career, and it’s always been a one-stop process.

          • Sean

            When going to the DPS last week to get her address updated on her license my wife was not allowed to get a new license or register to vote due to a traffic fine against her that we were not aware of.

            Not sure if it was legal for them to prevent her from registering to vote since it is not tied to her license in anyway.. but they did it anyway and refused to give her the paperwork. Her license is still valid.

            Again.. with so much trouble I can only imagine the headache of trying to get identification or a driver’s license for the first time if you did not have it before.

  • Joe Joejoe

    Liberals need to quit pretending like voter fraud isn’t happening on a national organized scale.

    If just 100 illegals in every city vote, that’s enough to sway any presidential election. And there are far more than 100 illegals in every city in America, on average.

    Minority and hispanic interest groups go around picking people up to take them to vote, with a primary focus on illegal votes.

    That’s how liberals have quietly gotten their power. They replace Americans with foreigners, promise those foreigners things at Americans expense, and the votes they get from these people keep them in power. They are deliberately out populating Americans in their own country so they can control the new population, until they do the same thing to the current immigrants by replacing them with future immigrants. This is the cycle of liberal power grab.

    It takes decades for an adult illegal to pay enough taxes back to offset their burden on society. We’re not just talking social services. We’re talking infrastructure too. Water treatment and waste processing plants are struggling to keep up with capacity across the US. We’re taking in 3-4 million illegals a year on average. That’s a whole lot of waste to dispose of. Roads, bridges, etc….all suffer from influx of populations. These things don’t come cheap, and 200 million tax payers can’t be expected to support the infrastructure of a nation of 340 million, over 100 million of which are recent immigrants since the 1970’s….not including any offspring they have.

    The thing about illegals is that they aren’t a fixed number. They grow in population size. Taking in 4 million today, means 40 million more mouths to feed decades down the line.

    Voter fraud is real, and it’s the source of democrats power in the first place. without using illegal votes, democrats would hold very few seats in the US government.

    • jb

      yeah, except that you’re lying and should be ashamed of yourself.

      ” In the ten years prior to Texas’ voter ID law, 20 million votes were cast. In that time two people were convicted of voter impersonation fraud. To prevent a repeat of those two fraudulently cast ballots, Texas Republicans passed a law that could disenfranchise more than half a million people. The law would also increase mail-in voting, which is more susceptible to fraud”

      http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/nicole-hemmer/2014/10/14/texas-voter-id-law-is-unconstitutional-and-discriminates-against-minorities

      • Joe Joejoe

        Your logic is completely off.

        First, conviction rates say nothing to the frequency of voter fraud. If you don’t check ID’s, you can’t know someone is a legitimate voter now can you.

        It takes extraordinary circumstances for a person to be caught at the polls because no one is looking for it. If I went up to a guy who I suspected wasn’t legal, and confronted him at the polls, you’d just call me a racist. So since I can’t do that……nor do you want me to have voter ID…..then what way do I have of proving anyone is a citizen? None.

        Which means that anyone who plays the system right, can vote without worry of being caught….and if their vote is found to be invalid later on, they still face zero consequences if their information is inaccurate. There’s tons of cases they simply can’t follow up on because many people aren’t stupid enough to use their real name or real address.

        To try to say it increases mail in voting, when mail in voting was already an option that could be abused before voter ID, is just a weak argument.

        No one is being disenfranchised by voter ID laws. An ID is basically the foundation of an adult life. You need one for many things, and it’s affordable.

        Other than extraordinary circumstances, if a person doesn’t have an ID but still wants to vote….you have to wonder if that person even deserves to vote. No ones keeping them from voting, they are keeping themselves from voting. They should want integrity in their elections as much as anyone else. If someone doesn’t want to even take the time to get an ID, morally, they probably shouldn’t be voting in the first place. If they’re that lazy, I expect their understanding of politics and who they are voting for is equally as lazy.

        • jb

          utter nonsense and it pains me that you have so little clue about reality.

          A signature has been more than capable of proving identity for more than two centuries in this country. are you seriously alleging that someone is able to fake a signature while briefly looking at it upside down? surely you jest

          “playing the system right” is a boogeyman, do you realize how many pieces would have to fall in place like a tetris board for there to actually be systemic voter fraud? prove there is systemic fraud and Id actually listen to your ridiculous diatribe without dismissing it outright.

          A pay-for ID is a poll tax, which is, without question, unconstitutional, sorry buddy. And no – an adult does not need one to live – ask the tens of millions of people in New York or Chicago or LA who dont have or need drivers licenses….

          IF and ONLY IF you are willing to provide free ID to every person of voting age, *and* provide infrastructure that provides proctors to go to every nursing home or hospital, or any house in the state that someone can’t (for whatever reason) make it to a place to obtain an ID, for free, then all you are doing is systemically disenfranchising the old, infirm, young and poor – the exact populations that historically vote for Democrats

          why is it in texas that a student ID isnt valid but an NRA membership card is? is it because they’re both government-issued ID cards? Oh wait, on the student ID is. Is it because its a way of limiting people who traditionally vote Dem? why yes, yes it is.

          and sorry, the dissent opinion from SCOTUS by Ginsburg documents the systemic disenfranchisement happening in your pathetic state

          “Texas, under Senate Bill 14, accepts neither. Nor will Texas accept photo ID cards issued by the U. S. Department of Veterans’ Affairs. Those who lack the
          approved forms of identification may obtain an “election identification certificate” from the Texas Department of Public Safety (DPS), but more than 400,000 eligible voters face round-trip travel times of three hours or more to the nearest DPS office. Op. 18, 76. Moreover, applicants for an election identification certificate ordinarily must pre- sent a certified birth certificate. Id., at 70. A birth certifi-cate, however, can be obtained only at significant cost—at least $22 for a standard certificate sent by mail. Id., at 22. And although reduced-fee birth certificates may be ob-tained for $2 to $3, the State did not publicize that option
          on DPS’s Web site or on Department of Health and Hu-man Services forms for requesting birth certificates. Id., at 70.”

          http://rsnorg.org/news-section2/318-66/26507-ruth-bader-ginsburgs-6-page-dissent-of-the-texas-voter-id-law-decision

          • Haywood_Yassumi

            Plain and simple — Democrats must manufacture votes to win elections. They must do this through fraud. The Lib/Leftist argument for society has been proven to be a loser (see the USSR’s 70-year failed experiment) everywhere it’s been in place. They cannot win a debate of ideas, because their ideology is a corrupt, bankrupt stream of lies. So the dead are kept on voter rolls and illegal aliens are welcomed for the potential they present for ballot stuffing. This is a process Dems have perfected through decades of practice. LBJ’s first election was stolen; JFK became president by the margin of votes delivered by Chicago’s Daley to bring in Illinois to the Dems. Only by digging in their heels in Florida in 2000 did the Reps prevent Al Gore from winning the state by a few hundred fraudulent votes. Never lose sight of this fact — the Dems factor in fraud in every election as part of their game plan. Demand photo ID at every polling place and let’s start putting an end to this!

          • jb

            Haywood Jablowme-

            hahahahahahahahahah

            *breath*

            hahahahahahahahahha

            you’re almost as ridiculous joe joejoe

            first, Gore won the popular vote by 500,000

            http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/electoral-college/2000/popular_vote.html

            second, Gore won the electoral vote count by any range of 27-127 votes. this isnt up for discussion. The supreme court forced the states to stop counting uncounted votes. not hanging chads, or doing recounts, but almost 200,000 uncounted votes in florida alone. This is from the NORC, University of Chicago, University of Pennsylvania, and Florida State University

            ” Florida State University professor of public policy Lance deHaven-Smith observed that, even considering only undervotes, “under any of the five most reasonable interpretations of the Florida Supreme Court ruling, Gore does, in fact, more than make up the deficit””

            “The NORC concluded that if the disputes over the validity of all the ballots statewide in question had been consistently resolved and any uniform standard applied, the electoral result would have been reversed and Gore would have won by 107–115 votes if only two of the three coders had to agree on the ballot. When counting ballots wherein all three coders agreed, Gore would have won the most restrictive scenario by 127 votes and Bush would have won the most inclusive scenario by 110 votes. Inclusive in media reporting likely refers to including the undervotes (only) as these people were then included in the vote. Whether overvotes were truly nullified in counts is not known.[67]”

            third, the rest of your tinfoil hat nonsense isnt coherent enough to address, and fourth you still havent made point 1 in trying to prove there has been systemic voter fraud by democrats. Nice try though

          • Haywood_Yassumi

            More nonsense from the Left. There was never a count or a recount that Gore won. That’s a fact, you silly goofball. And if Gore won the electoral college vote, you seem to be the only one that knows about it. Ridiculous. Back to your cave.

          • jb

            sigh….

            reading comprehension isnt much of a strong suit for you huh? just another faux news watching RWNJ i guess….

            scotus never ruled that GWB had more votes than Gore, only that they had run out of time by the 12/12/00 deadline set forth in title 5 which let the Florida secretary of state (a geb bush appointee, go figure) certify her ‘count’ (short of 200,000 ballots) that GWB won

            in every subsequent count of all uncounted ballots gore won, the electoral count minus florida was 246(GWB) 266(ALG) and florida has 25 votes. Now I know youre not too good at math but Im sure you can at least add 5 to a number right? right, so thats more than the 271 needed

            in fact, heres the florida ballot projects archive, where you, yes you jablowme, can even tally the votes yourself.

            http://web.archive.org/web/20011217183836/http://www.norc.uchicago.edu/fl/index.asp

            —–

            Review of all ballots statewide (never undertaken)

            • Including dimples, optical marks, or overvotes == Gore by 171

            • Fully punched chad and limited marks on optical ballots == Gore by 115

            • Any dimples or optical mark == Gore by 107

            • One corner of chad detached or optical mark == Gore by 60

            —-

            again, its basic arithmetic, Im sure even you are capable of adding numbers together.

          • Haywood_Yassumi

            Every “recount” and every “analysis” post-election resulted in the same result — Bush won Florida. Every newspaper and cable new show, including MSNBC, sent people down to get the “real” vote. They spent months coming up with the same conclusion: Gore never got the votes. Period. Quit whining. Bush won. Now eat your cereal and go to bed.

  • lakawak

    Oh my god! That is such a travesty! I mean…there is no way that just means that the vast majority of people have regular IDs, can it? Surely it means that millions of registered Democrats have tried to get IDs and have been denied by the evil Republican government!

    • jb

      its about 500,000 people in Texas alone, if you believe the Supreme Court, and most sane people do.

  • Marshall Collins

    In all these Voter I.D. Stories, I’ve yet to read the reporter’s Q&A on how anybody–anybody–is able to operate his life without a form of identification. How do any of these “non-I.D.” people drive, cash checks, subscribe to public utilities, all of the things it takes to run a house, get an apartment, work a job, cash the payroll check, and on and on and on. Why no interview with a non-I.D. person asking how that person is able to move through life in the U.S. without an I.D.? How is it done? I’m near 60 and have had a photo I.D. since age 14. What’s the big whoop in getting one? Unless the person has something to hide ……..

    • Nico

      That’s where my main confusion comes in. How does anyone get through life without any photo ID? It’s absurd. I’m still not quite sure how I feel about voter ID laws, especially considering their intent, but I definitely feel that it is ridiculous that so many people have no ID. Are you telling me that 500,000 Texans have never bought themselves alcohol? I’m 26 and have accumulated 4 forms of photo ID, how do people have zero?

      • Marshall Collins

        It has to be people who live under the radar. No bank account, no credit card, no drivers license. Nothing to prove the person is who he claims to be. As for the student mentioned in the story, I believe she is a college senior. So, how will she get to the job interview? Drive? Need a license. Fly? Need a government-issued I.D. All this just puzzles me.

    • Sean

      Many Americans do not have bank accounts (8% of households), are paid in cash, and do not drive. There are plenty of news stories and explanations for this that are available for you to read.

      Have you ever even talked to someone in the bottom 10% of Americans by income? If not then how would you expect to understand their situation and how they live?

      Treating these people like criminals is ignorant at best. I challenge you to meet someone in the bottom tier of Americans someday soon and strike up a conversation.

      • Marshall Collins

        I grew up in the bottom 10, and I still got a bank account at age 15 and drivers license at age 15 so I could drive to work AND cash my paycheck. You should never assume anyone posting his opinion grew up middle class!!! Seems you’re talking about lazy people, rather than the working poor!!!

        • Sean

          If you grew up in the bottom 10% then why are you surprised how no one has these things and lives this way? It is widely prevelant. Are you saying that none of your friends and relations lived without these things and continue to do so?

          I also question how you could afford a personal car if your family made less than 10,500$ a year…

          • Marshall Collins

            You buy used and old. And you struggle with so many other Americans to get out from the bottom 10 percent. Yes, there is such a thing as a culture of poverty, but perhaps that’s why there are those who aspire upward and those who choose squalor. Seems like it’s all based on laziness.

          • Sean

            I mean if you could afford to have a personal vehicle at age 15 and also pay the insurance and other fees then I am impressed. You must have had a high paying job.

          • Marshall Collins

            Nope. $1 an hour, working 32 hours a week. Got a bank loan for a few hundred to buy the car. Paid it off in two years. That was the 1970s. So with today’s minimum, you can still buy a beater car for about $2k, pay it off in two years. You stay independent from the parents, not needing their few funds, and make plans on doing better than them in life. You can live cheap but not be in ignorant squalor.

          • Marshall Collins

            Oh, and I graduated high school top six out of 440. If a person is determined to do better in life, then he works at it.

  • Nico

    “whereas rural counties show just a handful apiece—or none” – Maybe because people in rural areas are more likely to have a driver’s license?

  • Haywood_Yassumi

    The 500,000 figure comes from a statement by NAACP Legal Defense Fund president Sherrilyn Ifill at a National Press Club debate. So first, the figure’s thrown out there by a biased person with an agenda — no basis for the number. Actually, voter turnout in those states with voter ID laws increased after these laws passed: http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2014/jul/17/jason-riley/black-voter-turnout-exceed-white-voter-turnout-eve/ The real issue is voter turnout; only about one-third of the eligible voters will cast a vote in this mid-term election. Voter suppression is not the issue — the issue is that potential voters don’t care enough to go vote. If they care enough to vote, they will care enough to get an ID to enable them to do so. I don’t want my ID-verified vote cancelled out by fraud. Just get your ID if you want to participate in the process.

    • jb

      no the 500,000 figure is derived from Ruth Bader Ginsburgs dissent….

      read it yourself

      http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/14pdf/14a393_p860.pdf

      • Haywood_Yassumi

        Well, there’s Science in action –

        • jb

          Fantastic well researched rebuttal. Just read it. it has these magical things called citations and footnotes. Something you haven’t been able to provide yourself yet…

          • Haywood_Yassumi

            And we had eight years of GWB as President of the USA — so file your “citations” away with those other red ribbons you got in grade school…

          • jb

            wow thats all you have? “neener neener boo boo” talk about childish (maybe youre that guy that raped honey boo boos sister and thats why you like that?),

            but sure, just for you, ill play along…

            I take it by any lack of meaningful response, it must suck for you knowing that after six years of historic achievements by BHO the last two of his term wont result in overturning any of his policies. then you get to be afraid of ending up in intermittent camps under eight years of Hillary, followed by the fact that republicons will never win a national election again. it must really grind your gears huh?

          • Haywood_Yassumi

            You are boring me now and the weakness of your arguments tells me you’re growing as tired as your poor points. Excuse me now while I enjoy the election returns –

  • disintelligentsia

    For those here who state that there were 500,000+ registered voters who did not have the requisite ID in Texas, I answer – that doesn’t tell the whole story. A recent Washington Post story based on an academic study stated that approximately 15% of non-citizens were registered to vote and 6.4% of non-citizens voted in 2008 – that is literally millions of people who are illegally registered to vote and approximately 1.2 to 2 million illegal votes (over 80% of which went to Democrats). You first have to weed out those people before you can come up with an accurate number of people who are registered but don’t have the requisite form of ID for voting. As you might imagine, migrants who came here in violation of our laws might not be eager to go into a government office for an ID. In Maryland, a group is suing the state because it discovered at least 400 non-citizens who were registered to vote in one county by comparing voting records with jury duty records – because non-citizens cannot serve on jury duty and the jury duty forms have a section that permits you to get out of serving by stating you are a non-citizen. This was in ONE county, there are likely thousands more in Maryland’s 23 other counties.