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Patrick Michels
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In this episode, Observer reporter Patrick Michels speaks with freelance reporter and Lone Star Q publisher John Wright about how some Texas county clerks are preparing for a possible legal window for same-sex couples to marry in Texas.
And later in the show, Observer reporter Emily DePrang joins us to discuss why privatizing Terrell State Hospital—and picking a notorious company to run it—is a really bad idea.
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