Tustin PD's Thin Dude Line

Here's an invitation to Mr. Jim Gilchrist, Minuteman Project,

If you want to prove your point, post some stories of the good cops reporting the bad ones on our website. http://occopwatch.com/add-your-video/

Let's see if you can put your money where your mouth is.

We Publish 100's of stories of police corruption and misconduct, let see how many you can post.

They (police) need to stay out of Santa Ana and stay in Tustin. I always see them stopping people in SA.

Those cops should be shot

My brother and I have been pulled over twice  by Tustin PD for driving my dad's red Dodge Ram. They claim that they tail lights were out. Not true. They were probably trying to nail us for driving a truck that looked too Mexican with its nice rims and family last name on the back windshield. I wouldn't doubt anything about Tustin PD.

They'd rather see me in the pen, than me and Lorenzo rollin' in a Benzo...

Just caught this story on Channel 7 news: A jewelry store in Florida was  recently robbed by a couple of smash and grab thugs. The whole vicious crime was captured on video surveillance. The interesting part is that the first police officer to respond was also captured on the same surveillance camera reaching into smashed display counter and pocketing an $800.00 watch. Priceless.

Another great article Moxely. These type of stories are unfortunately being played out throughout the county (as well as the country) on a daily basis. I urge everyone to know their constitutional rights and exercise them. Always record the police, even if it's over something you have no involvement in. And don't EVER let a police officer tell you that you can't record their activities. You have a constitutional right to record public servants in a public place while preforming their activities. They may tell you otherwise, but that's because they are scared. They are scared of civilians who know and exercise their constitutional rights. Throw in the fact that they are being videotaped and they will fold like a deck of cards. I recently witnessed a cowardly act by a Huntington Beach police officer. An elderly homeless woman was laying down on a concrete bus bench. An officer in a marked SUV drove his vehicle up on the sidewalk and then proceeded to lay on his car horn while the front of his vehicle was less then two feet from this ladies face. One slip up and he would have hit this lady with his vehicle. Not to mention slamming the car over the curb is probably not the best thing for the vehicles alignment. This is a very small example of the way police treat people. It was cruel and cowardly. How I wished I'd had my camera ready. Now I carry it everywhere with me. Do I consider myself a cop hater? Absolutely not! But on the flip side I feel there are far to many criminal cops on duty and there is far to much emphasis on generating revenue as opposed to doing work solving crime. Just for fun, go to google and enter "why do police officers" in the subject field. The first suggestion listed to finish this query is "become involved in misconduct". The next suggestion on google to the search "why do police officers" is simply the word "cheat".

The Superior Court proved everything Mickadeit wrote about me and the Minuteman Project were blatant lies that he simply quoted from sources that were his long-time personal friends who had infiltrated my organization.  You cannot get dirtier than that in the journalism profession.  

Not once, as I recall, did "dirty Frank" ever update the public about the outcome of those court proceedings and how my adversaries virtually had their fannies handed to them by Judge Wilkinson.  

As a former newspaper journalist with an impeccable reputation for writing truths, not fantasies, about persons,  

I am disgusted with second rate journalists (like Mickadeit) who would use his or her position to deliberately pump incorrect and hatefully biased information into a newspaper's readership

Such conduct, back in my news reporting days, were met with swift firing for the dirty culprit by the news editor.  Not so today, which is why the public must be constantly wary about what they read in newspapers.  

There are more people of in the news profession, in my opinion, of atrocious character than you would ever find in a police department.    

Jim Gilchrist, Minuteman Project

I formally invite Senor R. Scott Moxley to be my guest for coffee at a Starbucks convenient to him.

The only rules are that there are to be no weapons of a nature that could cause bodily harm, and that Señor Moxley be free of any non-medically prescribed drugs.   Mr. Moxley's venom pen is okay, just no knives or guns, etc. type of weapons.

However, if dirty journalist Mickadeit shows up, then any weapon is okay.  Paramedics will be standing by.  Mickadeit will need them.  :)

I earnestly await the High Priest of Journalism, Sir R. Scott  Moxley, to accept my exceptionally generous and benevolent offer.

Sincerely Presented,

Jim Gilchrist, an imperfect mortal

Being a recent new resident of Tustin, and as a person keenly interested in police misconduct/police violence, I find this article very disturbing.  Police are masters at cloaking their misbehaving ways by accusing the victim citizen of obstruction of justice, resisting arrest and a myriad of other penal code violations.  Being a police officer is about power and they love to abuse that power. 

I am a firm believer that a few bad apples should not condemn the whole orchard...but how can the orchard survive if no serious efforts are made to eliminate the blighted fruit?

How soon we forget Bullies With Badges, in which Chickenhawks OC Deputies committed cowardly bullying on a real hero, Marine Sgt. Montoya, The Navy Cross recipient for bravery. In USA, cops are dangerous for women, wives, GFs, ordinary citizens, family pets, etc. Read 'Why Cops Lie' by former SF Police Chief--because they can and not be prosecuted jailed, fired..

I read Sir Moxley's latest screen play.  Nothing like a good piece of fiction and fantasy to attract the attention of a Hollywood producer.

Mr. Moxley writes well, however, readers should be forewarned that his journalistic forte is fictional entertainment for criminal-minded people-hating cop-haters.

Moxley is as non-credible as his dirty journalist counterpart, Frank Mickadeit of the OC Register.

Jim Gilchrist, Founder and President, The Minuteman Project

-The first casualty of propaganda is the truth-

-the next casualty is the victim of a witch-hunting lynch mob-

Yawn.

Another article by Moxley regurgitating one sided and unsubstantiated allegations from a plaintiff in a police lawsuit.  Reporting requires more than copying and pasting from a downloaded civil Complaint from PACER.

Another yawn for the predictable followup comments from paullucas714 and Moxley's other fellow cop haters who post the same thing on every single police-related post.

The moral of all these stories: Forget about getting justice in the courts against police brutality, the only way to get justice is with Christopher Dorner style vigilante justice!

@roman_archer  

A great comment about a great article. :-)

@jimgilchrist  Here's an invitation to Mr. Jim Gilchrist, Minuteman Project,

If you want to prove your point, post some stories of the good cops reporting the bad ones on our website. http://occopwatch.com/add-your-video/

Let's see if you can put your money where your mouth is.

We Publish 100's of stories of police corruption and misconduct, let see how many you can post.

@jimgilchrist  Here's an invitation to Mr. Jim Gilchrist, Minuteman Project,

If you want to prove your point, post some stories of the good cops reporting the bad ones on our website. http://occopwatch.com/add-your-video/

Let's see if you can put your money where your mouth is.

We Publish 100's of stories of police corruption and misconduct, let see how many you can post.

@jimgilchrist Once again, an article in the OC Weekly that has NOTHING to do with Jim Gilchrist, yet Jim Gilchrist feels the need to interject himself into the comments section to make the article all about Jim Gilchrist.  I think the Weekly should have a special category for Jim: TOP NARCISSISTIC COMMENTER.

@jimgilchrist Whenever I see comments from Jim Gilchrist, I immediately think of the song by The Minutemen (legendary SST Recording artists, not the hate group) entitled: "Little Man With The Gun In His Hand". If D Boon was still alive, he'd have a field day with Jim.

@paullucas714 Strongly agreed!

@OCCOPWATCH.COM @jimgilchrist  

Thank you for your invitation, however, I am too busy investigating "dirty" journalists who, in their delusions of grandeur, bogusly hold themselves out to be fair, balanced, objective, and quintessential saviors of mankind.

BTW, Mssr. R. Scott Moxley missed the deadline for accepting my invitation to boldly meet me for coffee. 

I knew he would quiver at the thought of facing me in debate.  Besides, I was somewhat reluctant to engage in philosophical debate with an unarmed person.  

Sorry you have so much hatred for law enforcement. You'd make a great propagandist for your idol, Señor Guzman, the drug cartel kingpin and mass murderer just captured in Mexico by US and Mexican law enforcement.

Graat job by cops, don't you think?

Your web site stinks.  It's very amateurish.  

Jim Gilchrist, Founder and non-stop President of the Minuteman Project 

@roman_archer @jimgilchrist 

::whispering::

And I think Mr. Gilchrist has a bigger crush on Mr. Moxley than I do. =:-O

@18usc241 and sorry to say they have a District Attorney that backs them 1000%

@roman_archer @jimgilchrist  BTW, how long have you been a member of the California Coalition for Immigration Reform (CCIR)?  Sour grapes, eh?  :)

@roman_archer @jimgilchrist  Thank you for your supportive comments.  Yeah, I guess it would take someone like Daniel Boone, or Hulk Hogan, to take me on.  I've never really thought of myself as that threatening, but apparently you do.  

Now, it's time for you to change your diapers, kid.  Sorry I made you dump in your panties.

@rscottmoxley @jimgilchrist  

The Superior Court proved everything Mickadeit wrote about me and the Minuteman Project were blatant lies that he simply quoted from sources that were his long-time personal friends who had infiltrated my organization.  You cannot get dirtier than that in the journalism profession.  

Not once, as I recall, did "dirty Frank" ever update the public about the outcome of those court proceedings and how my adversaries virtually had their fannies handed to them by Judge Wilkinson.  

As a former newspaper journalist with an impeccable reputation for writing truths, not fantasies, about persons,  

I am disgusted with second rate journalists (like Mickadeit) who would use his or her position to deliberately pump incorrect and hatefully biased information into a newspaper's readership

Such conduct, back in my news reporting days, were met with swift firing for the dirty culprit by the news editor.  Not so today, which is why the public must be constantly wary about what they read in newspapers.  

There are more people of in the news profession, in my opinion, of atrocious character than you would ever find in a police department.    

Jim Gilchrist, Minuteman Project

@rscottmoxley @jimgilchrist  

I formally invite Senor R. Scott Moxley to be my guest for coffee at a Starbucks convenient to him.

The only rules are that there are to be no weapons of a nature that could cause bodily harm, and that Señor Moxley be free of any non-medically prescribed drugs.   Mr. Moxley's venom pen is okay, just no knives or guns, etc. type of weapons.

However, if dirty journalist Mickadeit shows up, then any weapon is okay.  Paramedics will be standing by.  Mickadeit will need them.  :)

I earnestly await the High Priest of Journalism, Sir R. Scott  Moxley, to accept my exceptionally generous and benevolent offer.

Sincerely Presented,

Jim Gilchrist, an imperfect mortal

@rscottmoxley @jimgilchrist  

I formally invite Senor R. Scott Moxley to be my guest for coffee at a Starbucks convenient to him.

The only rules are that there are to be no weapons of a nature that could cause bodily harm, and that Señor Moxley be free of any non-medically prescribed drugs.   Mr. Moxley's venom pen is okay, just no knives or guns, etc. type of weapons.

However, if dirty journalist Mickadeit shows up, then any weapon is okay.  Paramedics will be standing by.  Mickadeit will need them.  :)

I earnestly await the High Priest of Journalism, Sir R. Scott  Moxley, to accept my exceptionally generous and benevolent offer.

Sincerely Presented,

Jim Gilchrist, an imperfect mortal

@rscottmoxley @jimgilchrist  

I formally invite Senor R. Scott Moxley to be my guest for coffee at a Starbucks convenient to him.

The only rules are that there are to be no weapons of a nature that could cause bodily harm, and that Señor Moxley be free of any non-medically prescribed drugs.   Mr. Moxley's venom pen is okay, just no knives or guns, etc. type of weapons.

However, if dirty journalist Mickadeit shows up, then any weapon is okay.  Paramedics will be standing by.  Mickadeit will need them.  :)

I earnestly await the High Priest of Journalism, Sir R. Scott  Moxley, to accept my exceptionally generous and benevolent offer.

Sincerely Presented,

Jim Gilchrist, an imperfect mortal

@rscottmoxley @jimgilchrist  

Hola, Senor Moxley,

Man, you can be hysterically entertaining on these blogs.  

But, you really gotta get over that hatred for white people.  Sure, some of them are rotten to the core, like Frank Mickadeit and the California Coalition for Immigration Reform (CCIR), but not all of us white folk are bad.

BTW, the more you try to defend dirty journalist Mickadeit, the more you appear to be just like him.  That's why there are people like me protect the public by acting as a watchdog over dirty journalists.  Although you are not all bad, some of you (cspecially Frank Mickadeit) are as corrupt as the bandits you sometimes write (fabricate stories) about.

God never granted journalists exemption from the temptations of corruption any more than he ever granted it to members of the political bureaucracy.

You, Señor Moxley, are an imperfect mortal just like the rest of us.  Get over your delusional perception about being the flawless savior of mankind.

As for your hatred of cops, I must say you are wrong.  You are a profiler who thinks inside the mind of every single cop is a criminal just waiting to leap out and violate someone.  

I can honestly tell you that I have never once had a bad experience with a cop in the hundreds of interactions I have had with them in Texas, California, Connecticut, Rhode Island, Massachusetts, Arizona, Ohio, Michigan, DC, etc.  

A vivid presence of law enforcement officers in all of our communities is the most effective form of insurance that our communities, and our nation, will be civilized environments.  Take away our cops and you will take away all of the freedoms guaranteed us by the Constitution of the United States of America.  

Stop being such a sour puss, Moxley.  You make me lose sleep, man.      :)  

Touche,

Jim Gilchrist, Founder and President, The Minuteman Project

P.S.  Despite our differences, have a nice day.

@rscottmoxley

Your brand of yellow journalism also feeds into the unfortunate trend of people advocating violence towards all police officers, as evidenced by the disgusting comments posted here by Nick Riviera and Lon Hall.

@rscottmoxley  You're right, cases of police corruption absolutely should be reported.  Where we now disagree is that I think those stories should be reported accurately and fairly, and you apparently do not.  Instead of presenting both sides in a balanced manner, you always downplay, ridicule, or completely ignore and fail to report any sort of exculpatory evidence relating to the conduct of the accused officers.  You don't do any investigation whatsoever about what may be true or untrue about the allegations of either side contained in the court documents.  That's just lazy.  You've done it to people at my department (not me) on cases where I have had direct knowledge of what really occurred so I know how inaccurate these types of articles from you can be.  The plaintiff's Complaints almost always contain exaggerations or flat out lies, because they can say anything they want in a lawsuit against the police and the police departments and officers have absolutely no recourse whatsoever.  In other words, there's no downside whatsoever for plaintiff's to lie about what happened.  As you know, in lawsuits, neither side's allegations in court documents can be taken at face value.  That's where fair and thorough reporting should take place, which takes some work on your part.  For you to regurgitate lies and half-truths from a Complaint and Answer without doing any additional investigation is lazy.

For what it's worth, I used to think highly of you as a reporter, enough so that I even tried to feed you a story once about what I felt was a gross injustice committed by my department, because I felt you would do a good job on the story.  You didn't respond to two e-mails I sent you.  The quality of your investigative reporting has since slid so far and your anti-police bias is now so strong that there's not a chance in hell I (and probably other officers as well) would ever consider feeding you a story, because you're apparently no longer interested in reporting the truth.  You're now the equivalent of Radar Online for police reporting.

I don't like not posting by my real name and badge number, but I feel forced to hide my true identity for fear of being slimed by you out of revenge for these comments.

@jimgilchrist  That's what we thought.... ;) let us know when you put your big boy pants on.

@roman_archer @FishWithoutBicycle@jimgilchrist 

That's true. I, myself, have learned to keep my desires in check. ;-)

@FishWithoutBicycle @roman_archer@jimgilchrist Hey, there's nothing wrong with having a crush on Moxley. But what makes Gilchrist's crush so annoying is the constant public badgering for a coffee date.

@jimgilchrist @roman_archer D Boon = Daniel Boon? Well that reference went right over your head. Yes, I'm laughing so hard I did just crap my pants. Damn you Jim Gilchrist!

@jimgilchrist @rscottmoxley  

I don't think Mr. Moxley is saying to "take away our cops" at all, and actually, as redundant as he may sound, it IS a rampant problem in southern California. 

I read an article just today that a CHP handcuffed a FIREMAN, of all people, because he didn't like where he parked the engine, while they were tending to the injured at the scene of an accident on the 805 fwy, which, was parked, according to protocol, to protect the public servants from oncoming traffic, while they do their jobs. 

Sadly, that's the mentality of many of the police force today. They abuse their power and do not care. They already know they can get away with murder. The Law does have a loophole that covers them for a "certain amount of excess force while on the job".

I have witnessed it myself in several beach communities and other OC cities, and I"M white. I am not offended by Mr. Moxley's "poison pen" for one minute. In fact, I feel that this is THE ONLY publication that reports what's REALLY going on behind the scenes in our local City Hall's and Police Departments. The stuff we would never hear about unless we did the leg work of the Mox. 

Keep up the good work, Mox. Not all of us think you are just a cop hater, because you happen tell all. And to all you cops who can't stand reading about fellow officers being abusive, well, maybe the OC Weekly is not the paper for you.

@rscottmoxley

Someone else wrote "Good police want bad police off the force".  I couldn't agree more.

How about a compromise?  Whenever you post a story about the police where you have reviewed court documents, such as this case, why don't you also make it a policy to post a link to all the documents you reviewed?  PACER costs money, but there's nothing that prohibits you from posting these public documents.  That way the public could see just how impartial your cop hating articles really are.

So how about you take me up on the challenge and post not only the original Complaint, but the Answer from the defendants as well as the Judge's rulings?  How about doing this routinely?  You've obviously obtained and reviewed them in preparation for the article, so why not post them?

Also....when was the last time you posted something positive about the police?  After all, you said yourself "OC has some of the best, most reasonable cops on the planet".

Are you in the hunt to be PC of Bell, CA?