Thomas Eric Duncan's Fever Was in Range for Ebola During His First Hospital Visit, AP Says

Ms. Troh wallowed in bed with sweaty Mr. Ebola for over a week, inhaled his atomized barf and viruses, yet is healthy as a horse!

A nurse in full containment suit attends to him briefly and comes down with Ebola.

DOES NOT COMPUTE.

All us damn racists fearmongers, only trying to make hay out of one isolated case from a disease that is nearly IMPOSSIBLE to catch, we're just uneducated hick red-neck haters who.....

http://www.wfaa.com/story/news/health/2014/10/12/presbyterian-hospital-worker-ebola/17147507/

....oh. Right. Thankfully she was wearing full protective gear... but, almost impossible... ummm.... RACISTS!!!

It's SO HARD to get this disease that the hospital has STOPPED ACCEPTING NEW ER PATIENTS.... but... hey, stop saying shit like that, you RACIST FEARMONGER!1!1!!! They're only stopping accepting ER paitents to weed out the poor, misunderstood, beleaguered minorities so their lily-white private funders don't lose money. RACEEEEEEEEEEEEEE trumps all, in all matters!!!!

Clay looks a bit nervous in that pic, doesn't he?

PLEASE do a followup story on what really happened to Duncan's close associates, many of whom stayed days in that Ebola infested apartment.  

That they have not come down with Ebola, officially, is very very strange.

LIVING IN THE APARTMENT:
-Girlfriend and mother of his son: Louise Troh, lived in apt

-Timothy Wayne 13 years old, Troh's son, lived in apt

-2 men in their 20's, lived in apt

-Oliver Smallwood a relative, lived in apt

-Jeffrey Cole a friend, lived in apt

Thanks!

Hugh

Dateline Dallas (UP)

The cloud is no more.  Servers have melted down worldwide following a blog exchange on the Dallas Observer's "Unfair Park."  The trouble began when Top Commenter and libtard Mavdog cited Fox News to support his position, sending shock waves across the web.  Two hours later, noted conservatard ColonelAngus cited the Washington Post in his rebuttal.  The resulting conundrum was too much for the Blogosphere to handle, quickly leading to the destruction of the Interweb.  Film at 11.

Dr. Frieden is playing it safe, covering both sides of the issue just in case.  One more import would be one too many.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/the-ominous-math-of-the-ebola-epidemic/2014/10/09/3cad9e76-4fb2-11e4-8c24-487e92bc997b_story.html

A second scenario is more dire: The conventional methods come too late, the epidemic keeps spreading, and the virus is beaten back only when vaccines can be developed and scaled up to the point where they can be widely distributed.

As the number of infections increases, so does the possibility that a person with Ebola will carry it to another country. This is known as an export.

“So we had two exports in the first 2,000 patients,” Frieden said in a recent interview. “Now we’re going to have 20,000 cases, how many exports are we going to have?”

Still Obama refuses to restrict travel from the affected countries, because that would just make it worse, according to him and his lackeys.  God help us.

@hugh.farnham  "Wallowed in bed?"

"Sweaty?"

"For over a week?"


Not only are your facts in accurate, your word choices sound like you have some real issues.

What doesn't compute is your attitude.

Oh, and as for wanting to protect the children, as stated earlier when you printed the name of a MINOR, you obviously do not care about HIS safety.

I suggest you leave Dallas. Get up, pack up and go. We would be much better off without you, and you would be happier somewhere else.

@hugh.farnham  Why are you broadcasting a minor's name?

It is NOT your place to label anybody....

And D O should delete this comment from you.

@holmantx By saying "lame duck guy" you are talking about President Obama?  The same President Obama who 11 months ago wanted to appoint Dr. Vivek H. Murthy to the empty Surgeon General position that the GOTP have opposed all these months because he wants gun restrictions?

I suggest you go talk to your GOTP and ask them if their "small gubermint" includes no protection for the American citizens of the U.S. against epidemics.  Then talk to the NRA and ask them if they are willing to pay for all the carnage their money grubbing gun lobby supports.

Are they really lining up in this era "tort reform" and damage caps?

@TheRuddSki Course if Thomas Eric Duncan had told the truth in Liberia, he would never have been allowed to get on a plane and would have died in Liberia without ever receiving any medical treatment. Although the ER doc at Presby clearly screwed the pooch, the fact is that Presby donated between $500k-$1m in medical treatment to Mr. Duncan.

@TheRuddSki

Back on the "broken clock is right 2x day" theme, although I'm sure the nephew's phone was blowing up with attorney offers, perhaps it takes a lawsuit to get Presby on record as to what happened. The bad news is that it could be years before they're actually deposed. 

@mavdog  Fox News??? You must be kidding!  Sorry, couldn't help myself.

I read that one, and a couple of others prior to posting.  Not much of it makes sense to me.

As far as limiting aid to the affected areas, we presently have dedicated military flights transporting thousands of personnel there and back.  Adding a few more flights for medical and aid workers seems easy enough.

"There is no more effective way to protect the United States against additional Ebola cases than to address this outbreak at the source in West Africa. That’s what our international response—including the stepped-up measures the president announced last month—will do."

Obviously, but we can take this action while temporarily limiting air travel from the affected areas into our country - the notion that these tactics are mutually exclusive amounts to a straw man.

If one buys the administration's argument that ebola is difficult to transmit, then maybe their argument makes sense.  I do not.  While I am not accusing anyone of lying, top researchers have said recently that this may or may not be the case.  Furthermore viruses are constantly mutating.

The incubation period, at 2 - 21 days, is the most frightening aspect, along with the fact that initial symptoms are similar to cold and flu viruses.  Once the camel's nose is under the tent, we are in for the catastrophe of a lifetime.

@JSSS @TheRuddSki  Donated? I've heard nothing yet of his insurance and I'd be curious as to what you know about his coverage or lack thereof.  Further, from his death bed statements it appears he did not know, he was helping a neighbor with a miscarriage and not an Ebola patient.  Also with a 2-21 day incubation period there is a high likelihood he had no symptoms and had no reason to believe he was infected or exposed. 

Ignoring the Ebola crap my question is why was Presby so quick to give a guy with a virus antibiotics and send him home with no follow up after presenting a 103 degree fever? 

@bvckvs  If anything happens to that kid by "medical" vigilantes, the D O will be the first ones sued....

Highly disappointed at how far down  and low the D O is now.

11 hours---and it is still posted.

You used to be the alternative to the Dallas Morning Snooze. Now, you are just the cheaper, whorier sister of D Magazine. You act like you care, but you don't. You used to have journalistic standards, but no more.

@RTGolden1 Glad you asked.  This should make it clear:

The post of the surgeon general has been vacant since July (2013) and it looks likely to remain that way for some time thanks to a strident campaign led by the National Rifle Association and libertarian Senator Rand Paul against President Obama’s nominee, Dr. Vivek Murthy.

This isn’t the first time the NRA has held up a nominee: the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives went without a director for seven years because of opposition from the gun lobby. But never before has the group set itself so strongly against a surgeon general nominee. So why now? The NRA said Murthy’s “blatant activism on behalf of gun control” attracted their attention.

http://www.thenation.com/blog/178888/why-nra-blocking-obamas-surgeon-general-nominee#

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According to statistics slowly, painstakingly assembled by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention from death certificates, about 32,000 people are killed by guns in America each year. (In the most recent year for which preliminary data is available, 2011, the exact number was 32,163.)

 The CDC has a complicated history when it comes to gun-related research. Since 1997, it has been prohibited by Congress from research that may “advocate or promote gun control.” That vague language had a chilling effect on all gun-related research funded by the CDC. “Nothing was explicitly prohibited,” said David Hemenway, director of the Harvard Injury Control Research Center. “But CDC knew if they ever did anything about firearms they’d be brought before House oversight committees and berated. There were all these shots across the bow, saying, Do whatever you want, but if you do the wrong thing, we’ll blow you up.”

But last winter, in the wake of Newtown, Obama signed an executive order instructing the CDC to once again support research on firearms.

And private money is crucial, because despite the warming at the CDC, the federal government’s spending on firearms research is still surprisingly low. The president’s $10 million pledge to the CDC was a vast improvement over the near-nothing the government devoted to firearms research before.

Why should we have to wait years for the CDC to issue a list of numbers, with very little additional data attached? Why can’t we test the programs and ideas that might save lives now?

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/crime/2013/12/newtown_anniversary_what_slate_learned_from_trying_and_failing_to_record.single.html

@andypandy a 103 temperature, stomach pains and a headache.  The guy was sick and he told them he'd been to Liberia.  

I am between thinking that this was a insurance issue or that this is the kind of care( no care) we receive today. I have a friend in another state whose husband (white) had a ongoing medical problem always leading to sepsis.  He'd been hospitalized several times (good insurance) for it so they rigorously started monitoring symptoms at home.  He started showing symptoms, went to the hospital and was sent home being told he wasn't sick enough yet.  To come back when he got sicker.  He ended up back in the hospital, in a coma and died within the next week. 

The difference here is that Mr. Duncan was highly contagious.

@Flabbergasted @bvckvs You are more concerned with killing off a very important comment than protecting children.  People like you hide the truth, in this case the lie that the family members are healthy as horses.  Then you hide behind the skirts of "protecting the children" - like Janet Reno.

@mavdog  "In the wake of the alert issued over the first case of Ebola diagnosed in the United States last week in Dallas, Obama said that "because of the measures that we've put in place, as well as our world-class health system and the nature of the Ebola virus itself - which is difficult to transmit - the chances of an Ebola outbreak in the United States is extremely low."

Looks a lot like the administration asserting that Ebola is difficult to transmit, no?

http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/politics/2014/10/06/obama-announces-tighter-screening-air-travelers-for-ebola/

@mavdog I've always wondered about the discrepancy between what the doctor or hospital charges and what my insurance company actually pays and wondered....why can't they just charge that in the first place and forget about the middleman/insurance company.

What happens to the difference of those two amounts?  Who, if anyone, picks that up or does it just disappear into thin air?

@mavdog @ColonelAngus  From the WaPo link above:

"Frieden warned Thursday that without immediate, concerted, bold action, the Ebola virus could become a global calamity on the scale of HIV. He spoke at a gathering of global health officials and government leaders at the World Bank headquarters in Washington. The president of Guinea was at the table, and the presidents of Liberia and Sierra Leone joined by video link. Amid much bureaucratic talk and table-thumping was an emerging theme: The virus is still outpacing the efforts to contain it."

If it is so hard to transmit, why would they be sounding the alarm about a potential global calamity?  This is the director of Obama's CDC after all.  Does he not qualify as a medical expert?