UPDATED: Second Dallas Healthcare Worker Has Ebola

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Transmission electron micrograph of the Ebola virus
Update 12:15 p.m.:Amber Joy Vinson, the second Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital nurse diagnosed with Ebola after helping treat Thomas Eric Duncan, is being moved to Emory University Hospital in Atlanta, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention announced at a news conference late this morning. The first Presbyterian nurse diagnosed with Ebola, Nina Pham, is not being moved to Emory because her condition is improving, the CDC says.

At the press conference, CDC Director Tom Frieden also said that Vinson should not have been allowed to travel on a public airplane after she became one of the people being monitored after coming into contact with Duncan, the Liberian man who was the first person diagnosed with Ebola in the U.S. From this point forward, healthcare workers and others being monitored will not be allowed to use publicly available transportation.

The 29-year-old Vinson traveled from Cleveland to Dallas on a Frontier Airlines jet October 13. Reports Wednesday morning indicated that Vinson had not shown any symptoms before boarding the plane, but CDC clarified at its press conference that she was running a low-grade fever of 99.5 degrees before getting on board. Pham was confirmed to have Ebola on Sunday.

As for the possible causes of Pham and Vinson's infections, Frieden reports that they treated Duncan while he was suffering from "large amounts of vomit and diarrhea." Duncan died on Oct. 8.

Neither the hospital nor the CDC has discovered the breach that led to the infections, and all other workers in contact with Duncan are being monitored for symptoms. Both Pham and Vinson were isolated within 90 minutes of first showing symptoms, according to the hospital.

"A lot is being said about what may or may not have occurred to cause some of our colleagues to contract this disease, but it's clear that there was an exposure, somewhere, sometime in their treatment of Mr. Duncan," said Dr. Daniel Varga, Presbyterian's chief clinical officer.

The CDC is sending an additional 16-member team of experts to combat the spread of Ebola within the Presbyterian community.

City and county officials were resolute.

"This is a person who is dealing with this diagnosis with the grit, grace and determination that Nina [Pham] has dealt with the diagnosis," County Judge Clay Jenkins said.

Dallas Mayor Mike Rawlings acknowledged citywide anxiety but called for calm.

"We want to minimize rumors and maximize facts, we want to deal with facts, not fear," he said. "We are not fearful."


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173 comments
Catbird
Catbird

Eureka! The answer is FLUROIDE!

PlanoDave
PlanoDave

Here's a question to stir up the pot a little bit:


Will Jesse Jackson and the race-baters sit down and shut up now that two non-White people are receiving aggressive treatment?

TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

Ok, it's officially gotten serious:

Obama Postpones Campaign Trip to Hold Ebola Cabinet Meeting

If he misses today's golf game, run for the hills.

MattL11
MattL11

Sucks for the few people who get it, but isn't all the coverage a bit much? Surely there are more pressing concerns for our city. 

TheCredibleHulk
TheCredibleHulk topcommenter

@l.c.klein

It's the least he could do. After all, Facebook has caused at least as much human suffering as ebola.

everlastingphelps
everlastingphelps topcommenter

@doublecheese In all fairness, the CDC has published detailed guidelines for PPE against Ebola in Africa, but they aren't the same as what is on the site now.  


The ones for Africa are detailed, but the are the real decontamination process, including washing the outer gloves in soap and then bleach, taking them off, de-apron, de-gown, wash the gloves again in soap and then bleach, take off the head gear, wash the gloves in soap and then bleach, etc etc.

wcvemail
wcvemail

@PlanoDave

What does Jesse Jackson have to do with this? You're relying on years-out-of-date cliches.


Not to say that he wouldn't love to be in the news, but he's just not.

dingo
dingo

@TheRuddSki 

I wouldn't take this breakout too seriously until it finds its way into Gwyneth Paltrow's neighborhood.

observist
observist topcommenter

@ScottsMerkin Hey Phelps,there's your scientific proof that Ebola has evolved a new airborne strain.

bmarvel
bmarvel topcommenter

@MattL11 Matt -- there are more pressing health concerns, in fact. Enterovirus 68 continues its march through the school-age population.

ScottsMerkin
ScottsMerkin topcommenter

@MattL11 I actually think this should be our city's #1 concern right now, because if it is not stopped right now, the whole region is going to become ground zero for the US pandemic.  Not something you want (yes I realize we are already ground zero, but it can be much worse)

bmarvel
bmarvel topcommenter

@wcvemail @PlanoDave Apparently, PlanoDave, a few of our commenters here have some difficulty distinguishing one African-American man from another.

TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

@dingo

Gwyneth may still be in the grips of an Obasm, she won't be leaving the house anytime soon.

ScottsMerkin
ScottsMerkin topcommenter

@bmarvel but you can't Ignore Ebola at the same time Bill.  come on man.  I was talking about Enterovirus last week too, but it doesnt have a 33% death rate either

observist
observist topcommenter

@ScottsMerkin Am I the only person who can't hear the word "pandemic" without thinking of Hamsterdam from The Wire? 

wcvemail
wcvemail

@bmarvel @wcvemail @PlanoDave


If you're referring to me, you're wrong, and you don't have a citation for Jackson's involvement. Sharpton - oh, yeah, but not Jackson. Did you know that Sharpton has eclipsed Jackson? Did you know that Jackson was booed out of Ferguson, while Sharpton was invited by the family?

Details count.

UncaChazzy
UncaChazzy

@Myrna.Minkoff-Katz @wcvemail 


By the way, your "You're EVIL" quote from the other Ebola news story comment section...."The BIrds"....I replied to it just today, so I'm late to the party...As I read it though, I heard that woman's voice shrieking the words...As I mentioned in my reply, you only forgot the "SLAP!!!" at the end.


PlanoDave
PlanoDave

@Myrna.Minkoff-Katz  Sit down and shut back up until you can actually contribute to the conversation.

You are like the old person in the family who suddenly spouts something out of context at the dinner table.  People stop talking, look at her in sympathy, and then resume their lives.

Pathetisad.

everlastingphelps
everlastingphelps topcommenter

@TheRuddSki Paltrow believes in juice cleansing BS.  She probably thinks you can ward off ebola with crystals.

observist
observist topcommenter

@ScottsMerkin @observist  I'm over-reliant on sarcasm.  This is actually the totally obvious explanation for how the nurses were infected, and it doesn't involve a CDC coverup of a new super-duper airborne Ebola strain like Phelps has been asserting with 110% confidence.

bmarvel
bmarvel topcommenter

@ScottsMerkin @bmarvel No, but home-grown, airborne Enterovirus has infected around 800 so far, most of them school children. At least one death confirmed, several awaiting medical tests. And a very likely possibility that it leaves some victims paralyzed -- nobody knows for how long. And it's already here in North Texas.

Compared to exotic Ebola which has infected two health care workers, both in contact with the diarrhea and vomit of a victim who contracted the disease in Africa and was already in a very advanced stage.

You tell me, Scotts: Which presents the greater danger to you and your children? 

ScottsMerkin
ScottsMerkin topcommenter

@MattL11 @ScottsMerkin Well first, thats pretty heartless of you. Secondly No need for panic, but its certainly not something that you should just  ignore and not concern yourself with when its literally in your back yard

bmarvel
bmarvel topcommenter

@wcvemail @bmarvel @PlanoDave Trying to figure out what Ferguson has to do with Dallas' Ebola situation. But am confident you'll explain it to me

UncaChazzy
UncaChazzy

@everlastingphelps @TheRuddSki 


Surely someone by now has created some kind of youtube video revolving around Gwyneth getting sick, and using clips of her "I just pooped my pants" face from the movie Contagion

ScottsMerkin
ScottsMerkin topcommenter

@bmarvel Well without panicking, um Ebola, bc Enterovirus is much more understood and we have wonderful known ways to treat it, and there is a 99.9% chance you wont die from Enterovirus, while that chance is much higher with Ebola, a virus we apparently dont know as much about treating as we thought

Myrna.Minkoff-Katz
Myrna.Minkoff-Katz topcommenter

@ScottsMerkin  That's a big problem on this board.  We have assholes that don't live in Dallas and some that don't even live in Texas who are experts about Presbyterian Hospital, and who care nothing about trying to scare up a panic in a city they don't live in.  

wcvemail
wcvemail

@bmarvel @wcvemail @PlanoDave


Watch the chalkboard, Marvel.

A poster referred to Jesse Jackson. I said Jesse Jackson is out of date. You said some similarly cliched crap about not being able to distinguish between black guys. I was kind enough to bring you, and the original poster, up to date by relating how out-of-date Jackson is, using Ferguson to bolster my point.

Oh, do you need another crayon to keep printing, little tongue gripped between tense lips? Here ya go.

bmarvel
bmarvel topcommenter

@ScottsMerkin @bmarvel Remain unconvinced, Scotts. 

But that's probably because I have a grandson sitting right in the window of Enterovirus vulnerability, whereas nobody I know is planning a trip to Africa or has just returned from Africa or is working in close proximity to someone who is in the the vomiting-bleeding-diarrhea stage of Ebola.

If Enterovirus is so well understood, why the rapid spread? Why are experts unable to explain the connection with paralysis or predict the duration of the paralysis (other than the fact that it is related to the Polio virus)?

Why 800 victims and growing, whereas Ebola has left us with...three so far? And one of those contacted the disease in far-off Liberia, the other two through close contact with the first?

PlanoDave
PlanoDave

@Myrna.Minkoff-Katz  Well, Ms. Downtown Dallas Resident, how much care have you received from Presby?

This former Dallas resident has had 3 surgical procedures there and has 2 doctors that office out of the Presby professional buildings.

I didn't know that Presby limited their practice to Dallas, or even TX, residents.

They are an excellent facility, BTW.  Top notch doctors, top notch staff, great administration...

bmarvel
bmarvel topcommenter

@wcvemail I've still got to wonder. How did a discussion of a health crisis devolve into a back-and-forth about black political figures and Ferguson?

I suppose one could attribute it to the eagerness of certain people here to inject race into every conversation, no matter how remote the subject. But I would never do that, because that would be playing the Race Card.

PlanoDave
PlanoDave

@wcvemail Jesse was acting as the spokesperson for the Duncan family immediately after his death.


RTGolden1
RTGolden1 topcommenter

@bmarvel @wcvemail actually, I think you were one of the essential wheels in the machine that turned the conversation.  ref: your initial point in this thread.  Either you assisted the switch, or you made the previous comment with utterly no comprehension of the topic at hand.

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