Few Dallas Police Live in Dallas, and That's Not Changing Anytime Soon

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Kevin Todora
Most Dallas police officers don't live in Dallas. Does that matter?
Policing a city like Dallas, even as crime falls, never goes smoothly. But it's been an especially rocky year for the Dallas Police Department, where, in the wake of Ferguson's violence, the city saw string of officers shooting and sometimes killing citizens.

The violence led to multiple town hall meetings hosted by District Attorney Craig Watkins, where attendees had one major suggestion for improving relations: Make more of the force live in the city they patrol. Only about a fifth of Dallas cops live in Dallas proper. If more lived in town, activists say, they would be perceived as less an occupying force and more of a really vigilant and badass neighbor.

It's a logical enough thesis and the rationale for residency requirements that exist across the city, although the data suggests the impact isn't what you might expect. Regardless: It's not happening.

The average Dallas police officer makes a base salary of about $50,000 a year, according to the city. With the added benefit of "special pay," which essentially pays for being loyal to the department, officers can make close to $60,000, on average. Higher-ranking officers, naturally, make more. But many officers make less than $60,000 a year. And like a lot of middle-income workers, the minute they start thinking about having kids they book it to the suburbs.

"If I can afford to live in some of the better parts of the city, I would," Ron Pinkston, president of the Dallas Police Association, told Unfair Park. "I can't afford it. For the quality of home I can get in the suburbs, I can't get that in Dallas. And then most Dallas officers wouldn't send their kids to DISD schools."

Well, at least not any DISD school. Many would probably send their kids to one of the handful of elementary schools performing well enough to attract middle-class families, but even those are becoming unattainable for those families. Stonewall Jackson Elementary has long been a haven for city-dwelling middle-class parents. But in the school's zip code, 75206, the price per square foot is about $60 more than the average Dallas home and about $100 more than the average for the metroplex, according to Zillow. And on many of the streets that feed into the school, modestly sized houses that might sell in the $400,000s -- already well out of reach for a cop making $50,000 -- are being razed and replaced by McMansions that sell for $800,000 and more to bankers and lawyers.

See Also: Few of Dallas' Cops Live in the City, and Chief Brown Says They Should Know More About It

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Click to enlarge. The salary amount was collected from the websites of each city's police department.
We could always pay cops more. The starting salary for a Dallas officer right out of training and in a police car is about $42,900, according to the city. Out of the 10 most populous cities in the Dallas area, that's the lowest. Most of the other cities pay between $50,000 and $55,000 out of the gate. Plano pays more than $60,000.

"It's a constant battle," Pinkston said. "We want the best police officers, but we don't pay to get the best."

But even a salary bump would leave most officers priced out of the neighborhoods where the schools and housing stock matches what they find in the suburbs. So off they go. And the department has no intention of stopping them.

"Most of our officers don't live in the city, and we don't have any programs to encourage them to live in the city nor any budget," Chief David Brown said at one of those town halls. "Living here would help, but we don't have that right now. The next best thing is more cultural awareness."


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Candy Evans
Candy Evans

But in the school's zip code, 75206, the price per square foot is about $60 more than the average Dallas home and about $100 more than the average for the metroplex, according to Zillow.


I think this is a terrific story, and I know several DPD who live north in Allen and Prosper for schools and home prices. I would caution you against using Zillow as your resource for real estate pricing.I know we all love to toodle on it, but it is not an accurate tool for pricing RE. Until last fall, you never had to record an MLS home sale in Dallas County. Thereby we had no record of SALES PRICE in many cases, the price was "Z'ed" out. Some agents now have a trick where a home is taken off the market shortly before it closes, so again, NO RECORD OF SALES PRICE.

Why no record? So DCAD doesn’t find out.

How then, in a non-disclosure state like Texas, does Zillow obtain their numbers? They scan thousands of public record documents, and they get listing data from a third source, which is why so many times you are drooling over a home that is long sold. But they cannot get into MLS and get accurate sales data. That’s why those “Zestimates” are always off. You should read this story:

 http://candysdirt.com/2014/02/05/say-what-zillow-has-champ-dor-zestimated-at-512839/

So I would caution you in using Zillow for any numerical averages. The company exists to get as many eyeballs as possible to garner leads for Realtors.

ThePosterFormerlyKnownasPaul
ThePosterFormerlyKnownasPaul topcommenter

"It's a constant battle," Pinkston said. "We want the best police officers, but we don't pay to get the best."

But we have a string thingy bridge, a decky park, an artsy centre, a symphony thingy, a horsey parky, and a won't ever die floodway tollway.  Priorities sir, priorities.

roo_ster
roo_ster

Also, the greater the proportion of black/NAM officers on a police force, the greater the rate of police brutality complaints.  It seems black officers feel they can beat like-hued trash like a drum in a way their white officers can't.

ttrr
ttrr

Two pertinent facts this story overlooks:  First, state law prohibits residency requirements for police and fire personnel--thanks to their unions.  Second, a huge proportion of DPD officers work off-duty jobs and overtime that net them as much as triple their salaries.  In fact, the Observer has often reported on city policies that require businesses or events to hire off-duty DPD officers in order to get permits or avoid enforcement.  Typical off-duty rate is $50 an hour.

everlastingphelps
everlastingphelps topcommenter

Stonewall Jackson Elementary has long been a haven for city-dwelling middle-class parents. But in the school's zip code, 75206, the price per square foot is about $60 more than the average Dallas home and about $100 more than the average for the metroplex, according to Zillow.


There's a simple solution to this problem.  Untie education from geography.  The difference in price is directly related to the schools.  If you want to give poor people access to good schools, tie acceptance to achievement, not to geography.  Put the kids in a school that meets their academic level, and allow parents to transfer their kids out of a school that fails their child, regardless of how the school thinks it is doing.

holmantx
holmantx topcommenter

Low pay is traded off on a Cadillac retirement plan however, due to poor management, that ladder's being pulled up behind the vested officers.

It's a thin blue line and, like Miles, it is best to evacuate your family if the threat assessment dictates it.

Bump the starting and base pay if the new hires aren't going to get the same retirement plan.

But you can't expect the officers to put their families in the high crime areas where they patrol due to a) retribution, and b) they need to drop their pack for a few hours, not be on duty 24/7.  You wear a uniform in some parts of this town, and you might as well wear a bullseye.

scottindallas
scottindallas topcommenter

@Candy Evans wondered about that, I long since left the RE biz, but MLS listings aren't great, but they seem to be the best we get.

becoolerifyoudid
becoolerifyoudid

@ThePosterFormerlyKnownasPaul  Don't worry once I-345 is torn down and half of deep ellum is flipped to developers the officers will, well the officers will still be paid the same and the schools will still suck. 


But someone will make a lot of money, the same people that profit from the stringy thingy bridge, decky park, artsy center...

scottindallas
scottindallas topcommenter

@roo_ster I sure seen plenty of cracker cops in a circle kicking a restrained perp in Houston.  My old teammate was the one who actually jumped on his back to properly contain him. 

scottindallas
scottindallas topcommenter

@everlastingphelps There's something to what you're saying, though on the other hand, Preston Hollow, Oak Lawn and other niches in the DISD enjoy both the highest home values in the area and DISD.  I live in LH, which sorta affirms your point.  As I consider it, there seems to be a hurdle in value; where incomes/values jump to a point where private school is a given.  I guess we have the gays to thank for carrying the water through that transition.  But then again, that's pretty much all well established.


scottindallas
scottindallas topcommenter

@holmantx Your comment misses a vital point.  Dallas trains all the cops in the area.  So, like a smart NFL team, we run em young and cheap.  We get the new trainees, they're obligated to work here for a certain stint before they can go off as free agents; it's akin to the rookie contract.  I like Dallas cops over the cops in any of the suburbs, they're cooler, understand their job better and actually have real issues to tend to.  Too many suburban and small town cops are predators on the public. 

CraigT42
CraigT42

@holmantx

Interesting myth.  You kow there hasn't been a single DPD officer killed on duty, even in a traffic accidents since 2011.  Doesn't sound as much like a bullseye as it does a giant shield. 

realtalk214
realtalk214

@holmantx the "bullseye" comment simply isn't true, there area many cities in which a high percentage of the police live within their city limits.

oak_clifftownie
oak_clifftownie

@holmantx Soon to be YUGO Retirement plan for all of them . The Police and fire pension has become an open cash box  for for the movers and shakers who need money for projects in this town.

scottindallas
scottindallas topcommenter

@becoolerifyoudid @ThePosterFormerlyKnownasPaul but the gov't gets to privatize public land, that way the profits get shared with the council--equity don't cha know.  Once they realize the implications, the destruction of 345 is a done deal.  As for me, I'm undecided, though keenly interested.

everlastingphelps
everlastingphelps topcommenter

@becoolerifyoudid @everlastingphelps Sounds like they need to figure out how to get their kids to the school they want.  You should be allowed to enroll in any school you want -- that doesn't mean that you have to coddled the whole way.

holmantx
holmantx topcommenter

@CraigT42 @holmantx

How many clipped on the side of the road?  How many fights, resisting arrest? How many assaulted?  Stabbed?  How many wounded?  How many suicides?  How many threatened on arrest?  How many threatened when they testify against some very bad maniacs?

Put on a uniform and jump your ass into one of the real high crime neighborhoods by yourself, my man.

holmantx
holmantx topcommenter

@realtalk214 @holmantx

Not in the high crime areas.  It ain't Mayberry out there.  And the point has already been made - the urban core that most would like to live in, they are priced out.

holmantx
holmantx topcommenter

@oak_clifftownie @holmantx

If the Fund goes tits up, then it comes out of current taxation.

That's the knock on public pension plans - nobody is stting at the collective bargaining table representing the taxpayer.

The politicians take money off the unions to get (and remain) elected, and the Pension Funds are backed by the taxpayer if they become under or unfunded (insolvent).

It's like this all across the nation, and it is collapsing towns and cities.

scottindallas
scottindallas topcommenter

@holmantx @CraigT42 shit, you should play rugby, we do/did that voluntarily.  Or, you should come do real work, the kind of work that would enjoy depreciation should cap gains rise.  We go that everyday, and the numbers don't lie you sophist piece of intellectual garbage, your trash man is doing far more dangerous work.  Fuck you!

CraigT42
CraigT42

@holmantx @CraigT42

They lived through all of them.  Still not much of a target.  Be happy to face all the threats they do for the compensation they receive, but then I would have to work with the kind of people that being a cop makes them, and eventually it would wear me down and make me as violent and corrupt as them. 


oak_clifftownie
oak_clifftownie

@Tim.Covington @holmantx @oak_clifftownie They aren't Unions they are for the most part Race Based Associations with out the power for job actions  . I doubt the fund will go tits up . Those in charge are smart enough to keep the checks going out it will be just be the lowest amounts they can get away with. And greatly reduced benefits .

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