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Marching for the Climate

Monday, September 22, 2014

NYC Climate March (Paige Cowett) (WNYC)

Organizers say over 300,000 took to the streets in yesterday's "People's Climate March." Were you there? What comes next? Share your story below, and hear excerpts from an event Brian hosted over the weekend called "Climate Crisis: Which Way Out?"

The event featured panelists:

 

Plus, First Deputy Mayor Anthony Shorris discusses the de Blasio administration's climate agenda, including the announcement that it will aim to drastically curb building emissions. 

And, WNYC reporter Stephen Nessen calls in from the "Flood Wall Street" demonstration.

Pictures and Videos from the People's Climate March

Guests:

Chris Hedges, Naomi Klein, Bill McKibben, Stephen Nessen, Bernie Sanders, Kshama Sawant and Anthony Shorris

Comments [60]

Kewame from Bronx

Wish you showed a picture of the 300 people form th South Bronx and the life sized puppet Fresh Direct truck drawing attention to the proposed $140 million subsidy to relocate that diesel trucking company to a flood zone in the South Bronx.

Sep. 27 2014 09:45 PM
john k from New York

Hi Chris from New York,
Are you really just going to sit back and wait for government and industry to fix the environment for you and the people you care about? The federal government is in gridlock and industry is notorious for polluting the environment. It's not just about climate change. We are all fighting against animal agriculture for water, food, and land resources, not to mention money. That cheap hamburger is costing you much more than you realize. Please be informed and search for cowspiracy. If the facts do not alarm you and change your ways, then you probably were not going to do anything anyway.

Sep. 24 2014 10:18 AM
Chris from New York

US carbon emissions, per capita, have steadily declined since 1970.

It's easy to point at various industries "causing" growth in carbon emissions... but it's population growth that is the real driver.

The huge surge in natural gas production, made possible by hydraulic fracturing, has done more to reduce carbon emissions by displacing coal-fired electricity than any environmental movement, including this naïve "climate march".

Sep. 23 2014 02:59 PM
John

Climate justice!
That's so cool, man.

I also want pay justice, sex justice, sleep justice, snack justice and . . . I want free cable! And a cheeseburger delivered to my place when I snap my fingers.

Justice, man -- it's so . . . inclusive!

Sep. 22 2014 05:37 PM

LOL, this post says it all about the audience here - even funnier if this "person" is serious:

"RN-
It is time for progressives to turn away from democracy. Democracy and capitalism go hand in hand. We need a government of enlightened fascism. I know, I know: Fascism has a bad name. But, in the hands of enlightened humanists like Chris Hedges and Naomi Klein and NPR listeners, it can be the most effective form of government.
We must not be sensitive to freedom and civil rights."

Sep. 22 2014 05:09 PM

I was at the march!

We need to start talking about animal agriculture...

Animals contribute 51% of all worldwide greenhouse gas emissions.
A much bigger problem than fossil fuels.

Meat and dairy uses 29% of ALL the fresh water on the planet.

91% of the amazon is destroyed for animal agriculture.

Please consider going vegan. It is one solution and something we all can do now that will have an immediate positive result on the crisis at hand.

Sep. 22 2014 04:05 PM
RN

It is time for progressives to turn away from democracy. Democracy and capitalism go hand in hand. We need a government of enlightened fascism. I know, I know: Fascism has a bad name. But, in the hands of enlightened humanists like Chris Hedges and Naomi Klein and NPR listeners, it can be the most effective form of government.

We must not be sensitive to freedom and civil rights. Freedom means freedom for the Koch brothers to spend their money to defeat our movement.

We must embrace re-education programs, redistribution of wealth, sensible censorship and, yes, penalties, swift and cruel, for those who stand in the way of progressive values.

The revolution is coming. We must steel ourselves and do what must be done to make a better world.

Sep. 22 2014 03:14 PM
john k from New York City

The best way to create change is to vote with your money. Political, policy, and technology changes take years. Make a change today! Stop purchasing products that are destroying the environment! Can you stop driving your car or taking the train or bus? Can you stop using water? Can you stop heating your home? You can definitely reduce your use but it will not be enough! Nothing will have a bigger impact on the environment than reducing or eliminating your consumption of meat and dairy products. Do the research! Get the facts and fix the issue!

Sep. 22 2014 01:45 PM

People are afraid to discuss bad a crisis we are facing. California is in a permanent drought and massive water shortage along with Co, NM and Arizona. Nebraska and Oklahoma have large swaths of land in the same dire straights.

Two problems I never hear discussed much anymore. One: Overpopulation which was discussed non stop when I was a kid. With regard to the U.S., our population jumped up by 1/3 between 1968 (204 Million) when manufacturing jobs were plentiful and 2008 (304 Million) when those jobs had greatly diminished. Now I hear it's up to 340 million?

The other thing is lobby groups: they should be banned. Nothing will change until they are. Our congress is on the take; we all know it. Things like GMOs and vaccines can be debated openly with professional moderators, not piecemeal on tv and radio. With the internet debates would be easy to set up.

PBS did an excellent documentary during Clinton's reign involving a first nation tribe that scraped together $50,000 to voice a concern. It was a convoluted process resulting in what seemed like a cocktail party-like affair at the Whitehouse. Clinton went around the room smiling and shaking everyone's hand. When the tribe rep asked when he could talk to the president he was told by the liaison he would need many thousands more to do that.

Welcome to America!

Sep. 22 2014 12:50 PM

This entire parade scenario, and its accompanying alarmist "end-of-the-world" rhetoric is a tiresome re-tread of the 1980's march against nuclear weapons testing as a strategy to avoid civilization threatening "Global Cooling". The men were brave and the women were strong, and all were as vocal and numerous as the "tribbles" I see pictured here.
It was by such arduous and collective efforts that the curse of nuclear weapons was eliminated from the technological vocabulary of humanity.

Well done, Comrades! (or was it just "Medium rare?")

http://wagingnonviolence.org/2009/06/remembering-the-1982-rally-against-nuclear-arms/

Sep. 22 2014 12:44 PM
kcnyc from New York

I wonder how many of the participants in the march took public transit? From the traffic jams yesterday late afternoon leaving the city, it appears not many. Disappointing.

Sep. 22 2014 12:27 PM

Updated weather report on the historical hottest weather:

http://www.skepticalscience.com/1934-hottest-year-on-record.htm

Sep. 22 2014 12:24 PM

Amy and Alan from Manhattan:

Google the background info for any of the "guests"
Mr. Lehrer selects to promote the "pov"s he favors.
Especially when they appear to be independent, "good citizen" volunteers.

They're usually not as free from apparent conflicts of interests as the are presented as being.

Not, as they say, that there's anything wrong with that.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oj3VphK9AMk

Sep. 22 2014 12:11 PM

It's a fraud -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTSxubKfTBU

Sep. 22 2014 11:56 AM
Amy from Manhattan

Alan, that's an NPR sponsor, not a WNYC sponsor. We hear the announcement on WNYC only in shows that come from NPR & in "Fresh Air," which is also sponsored by the American Natural Gas Association. What really bothers me is that I've never heard a "full disclosure" announcement when NPR does a story on fracking.

In fact, I want to thank Brian's show for giving the climate march & the panel event the amount of time in which they usually have 2 segments.

Sep. 22 2014 11:51 AM

It's a fraud -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJJsDtSHjdE#t=74

Sep. 22 2014 11:45 AM
Alan from Manhattan

I wonder what WNYC has to say about it's sponsor: thinkaboutit.org
That's a natural gas (fracking) money.
Anyone?

Sep. 22 2014 11:20 AM
jgarbuz from Queens

to John

China will become the leader of the movement, because they don't have oil and coal tycoons. And they have more people and pollution than anyone. China already produces more solar panels than anyone and they will take the lead soon enough. Because solar will dominate eventually over fossils, and they will be the leader. That is why Elon Musk and Tesla are now in China.,

Sep. 22 2014 11:19 AM
John from Bklyn

Good luck getting China on board with all this.

Sep. 22 2014 11:16 AM
Barbara from New Jersey

Peter Yarrow was there with daughter Bethany and granddaughter, Valentina at W. 77th and CPW. Great to hear the old songs and new words!

Sep. 22 2014 11:13 AM
jgarbuz from Queens

I would rather have speakers talking about how electric cars are superior to gas burning cars, and use much less energy and emit no CO2. I would prefer speakers talk about how solar panels are becoming so much cheaper and are already competitive with many fossil fuels. But no, they are talking about politics and revolution and all of that "touchy-feely" nonsense that will come to nothing, as usual.
If they don't focus on the issue, then nothing will come of any of this. The GOP may get elected instead if bolshevism is what the "climate" issue is perceived to be.

Sep. 22 2014 11:07 AM
Amy from Manhattan

Whoops--the 2nd part of my button said, "GLOBAL =/= UNIFORM," not GLOBAL = UNIFORM"!

And I also want to mention that, at least where I was, there was a 2nd moment of silence, for the police officer who was killed in the crash on the way to work at the march.

Sep. 22 2014 11:03 AM
Amy from Manhattan

I have to disagree w/Chris Hedges. It sounded as if he actually advocated violence, but the reaction to that tends to be for the opponents to get more entrenched in their positions. It would also reduce sympathy for the cause among the general public. I think it would result in slower anti-climate-disruption progress, not faster.

Sep. 22 2014 10:59 AM

I'm sorry, I know it isn't the popular opinion, but I'd rather see a Clinton/Sanders campaign than Sanders siphoning off enough votes to let a Republican sneak in. President...Christie,Walker,Perry,...? No thanks. Let's not do that.

Sep. 22 2014 10:58 AM
David from Manhattan

The moment of silence followed by the shout wave was out of this world! It was a movie moment. With the roads closed and no moving vehicles around AND everyone silent, the effect was eerie but sublime. And then to hear the wave of shouts and cheers coming from afar to near, it was unlike anything I've experience!

Sep. 22 2014 10:55 AM
MichaelB from Morningside Heights

I proudly marched yesterday.

But let me point out what has been bugging me for a long time. Millions on the left make a great deal of noise about this issue along with many others. But when it comes to changing behavior on an individual basis, we are SOOOO lacking.

At work, I am the only person who shuts his computer monitor off when I leave work at the end of the day.

A few years ago, I worked as a consultant for 3 months at a medical dot.com. In all that time, never did I see anybody fill their water bottle from the large Poland Spring water cooler in the kitchen. Instead, they all ALWAYS went to the refrigerator to take out an new Poland Spring bottle of water.

In men's rooms, it is very common for men to flush a urinal BEFORE urinating, as if they can only urinate into a clean piss-pot!

I could go on and on with examples such as these. In all cases, these are educated, mostly young individuals and I would suppose are mostly left-leaning, but seem so oblivious to how their own actions affect the environment adversely.

Part of the problem of events such as yesterday's massive march is that it feeds a mindset that the government will solve our problems. Yes, governments at all levels must be PART of the solution, but we cannot rely on government to change our behavior if people such as these (young, educated, etc.) are so consistently making poor choices.

But shout they will and party they will at these events, and so many in Middle America with old-school morals look at them as elitist and cannot identify with them. And for good reason.

Sep. 22 2014 10:54 AM
Amy from Manhattan

I couldn't make the panel Saturday night--too busy getting ready for the march! I'd been planning to go from group to group, but it was so crowded in the holding area I could barely get to the one I started with, let alone get back out to try to find another one. Unfortunately, the sound system where I was wasn't that good, & I couldn't hear some parts of the speeches very well. But it was very well organized, both before & after the march started.

There were so many good signs I can't pick a favorite, & I'm even having trouble remembering them all. One that I can think of was something like "Your Mother [w/a picture of the Earth] says, clean up your place."

I like the sign about chocolate Brian quoted, but I think 1 of my buttons says it better: "SAVE THE EARTH--IT'S OUR ONLY SOURCE OF CHOCOLATE." And I made my own button saying "CLIMATE =/= WEATHER, GLOBAL = UNIFORM." Oh, yeah--& my mockup solar panel on my back, over a T-shirt showing the sun & planets. A lot of other people had props--1 had a flamingo on his head, & 1 was elaborately dressed as a monarch butterfly. A lot of people had signs or stickers that said, "There is no Planet B." (I tried to get a chant going w/"No place/to flee!/There is no Planet B!" but it didn't catch on this time.) Finally, yes, there was a lot of music--singing & instrumental, incl. organized bands & jamming.

Sep. 22 2014 10:50 AM
jgarbuz from Queens

Mr. Bad

People can and should have whatever they can afford to have, provided that producing it doesn't destroy the health of individuals and the planet. I don't own cars, homes or smart phones and don't miss them one bit. I'm fine without them. But others who are materialistic should be able to own whatever they want as long as they acquired them legally and their existence does not harm me or anyone else, or the planet as a whole.

Sep. 22 2014 10:48 AM
jgarbuz from Queens

Mr. Bad

People can and should have whatever they can afford to have, provided that producing it doesn't destroy the health of individuals and the planet. I don't own cars, homes or smart phones and don't miss them one bit. I'm fine without them. But others who are materialistic should be able to own whatever they want as long as they acquired them legally and their existence does not harm me or anyone else, or the planet as a whole.

Sep. 22 2014 10:46 AM
G whizz from Plane Earth

People before Profits! Bernie Sanders for President! We had enough!

Sep. 22 2014 10:44 AM
Mr. Bad from NYC

Yes yes in an economy built on consumer driven growth, from Iphones (Iphone 6 breaks sales records!) to global travel, pointless culinary extravagance (looking at you NYC!), massive server farms, etc. will have no trouble converting to a needs based economy driven by morality, social responsibility and civic engagement.

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA.... OMFG, this is like the guy with a needle in his arm talking about how great it gonna be when he cleans up his act... I'm going to go and nod out. Good luck and wake me when the revolution comes.

Sep. 22 2014 10:42 AM
jgarbuz from Queens

This neo-bolshevik baloney about "revolution" will destroy the climate movement. This is a communist takeover as has happened in the past, where Reds infiltrated every legitimate civil rights and other movements trying to subvert them.
Either this is about the climate and replacing oil and coal with sun and wind, or this is about other things that have nothing to do with the matter at hand.

Sep. 22 2014 10:42 AM
Taher from Croton on Hudson

I hear a lot of romanticism about how world governments will respond positively to climate change advocates. No such thing. What moves governments are catastrophes.

Sep. 22 2014 10:40 AM
jgarbuz from Queens

The problem is that mixing the climate issue with socialist agendas is going to turn people like me off to it. This movement should be about replacing oil and coal with solar and wind, and nothing else. It should have nothing to do with any other agenda or it will come to nothing, as usual.

Sep. 22 2014 10:35 AM
jgarbuz from Queens

Taher

People take money from whomever gives it, and the oil tycoons don't give it for no reason. They are trying to save their tobacco, oil, drugs, coal and other highly profitable but miserable industries that kill us, but why should they care? But nobody turns down money no matter how dirty it is. Because nothing can get done without money.

Sep. 22 2014 10:30 AM
lk from brooklyn

The administration should stop the building near the waterways if they care about climate change. We need our shore lines as buffers not luxury highrises. We need our parks to be parks. Stop Pier 6 at the Brooklyn Bridge Park for starters. It is in a flood plain and will be hit by the next hurricane hard. At Super Storm Sandy the water rose 14 feet there and that was without wind. The pier is 4-8 feet above the waterline depending on the tide. Water is expected to rise by two feet or more by 2050.

Sep. 22 2014 10:30 AM
Burtnor from Manhattan

The march was just terrific, completely exhilarating, quite impressive -- energetic, diverse, peaceful, imaginative. It started at 11:30 a.m. from Columbus Circle and at 3:30 groups were still starting out from that point. Final count: 400,000, 1,500 organizations, plus demonstrations around the world!! So proud of my city, especially all the young people participating. Hope everyone stays engaged.

Please follow up with more segments on the major themes: fossil fuel divestment, alternative energy, agricultural/food systems, corporate/government complicity, faith-based planet stewardship, animal welfare, military and transportation energy use, environmental justice, NYC initiatives, etc.

Thanks for your segments, since the WNYC straight news coverage of the March has been terrible.

Sep. 22 2014 10:28 AM
MC from LIC

Hello. Please ask the de Blasio administration officer about the kind of labor that will be used: will these by union jobs, will there be green jobs training, that goes into these efficiency renovations? Thanks.

Sep. 22 2014 10:26 AM
jgarbuz from Queens

Amanda

Both terrorism and climate change are fuelled by OIL! Without oil, the Muslim Arabs have no money to eat much less to spend on terror! Oil was a friend, but is now an enemy. We have to replace oil and coal with solar and wind. That is our only hope.

Sep. 22 2014 10:25 AM
Taher from Croton on Hudson

The talk is about climate change yet the board of directors of Metropolitan Museum and Lincoln Center take money from the Koch brothers. So the elite of NYC are excluded from any responsibility?

Sep. 22 2014 10:23 AM
Hank Linhart from Gowanus District

To those that don't believe in Global Warming - put your self next to a tail pipe of a car or a coal smokestack - where do they think that pollution goes ?

I crossed the Atlantic in 2008 and plastic bags are everywhere and in our food chain.

The march was very inspired - and just to note - not a plastic water bottle in sight and it was the longest public time spent in NYC in 34 years in which I didn't smell cigarette smoke.

Sep. 22 2014 10:23 AM
jgarbuz from Queens

There is no "experiment"we can make that will prove ether side conclusively. But we know from studying the past climates here and on other planets, that when gases like CO2 build up to a very high level, that the climate can suddenly "flip" and become tremendously destructive. There is no doubt in my mind that bringing up all of this carbon that has been buried for tens of millions of years and suddenly burning it all over the last few generations is putting all that CO2 in the atmosphere and we can measure it, and it will raise the average temperature over time and cause unpredictable climactic catastrophes. Since alternatives like solar and wind can now compete economically with coal and oil, and even natural gas, why not switch to electric cars and solar panels ASAP and liberate ourselves from the fossil fuel vampires sucking our blood?

Sep. 22 2014 10:22 AM
amanda from manhattan

Best sign:

Your grandchildren are more likely to die from global warming than terrorism" Puts things in perspective

Sep. 22 2014 10:20 AM
jgarbuz from Queens

There is no "experiment"we can make that will prove ether side conclusively. But we know from studying the past climates here and on other planets, that when gases like CO2 build up to a very high level, that the climate can suddenly "flip" and become tremendously destructive. There is no doubt in my mind that bringing up all of this carbon that has been buried for tens of millions of years and suddenly burning it all over the last few generations is putting all that CO2 in the atmosphere and we can measure it, and it will raise the average temperature over time and cause unpredictable climactic catastrophes. Since alternatives like solar and wind can now compete economically with coal and oil, and even natural gas, why not switch to electric cars and solar panels ASAP and liberate ourselves from the fossil fuel vampires sucking our blood?

Sep. 22 2014 10:20 AM
SamBrown

I...'enjoyed'? Senator Sanders' speech, thanks for running it, but man am I sick of hearing everybody on the planet called "folks". "...folks like the Koch brothers..." The Koch brothers are not 'folks', nor are the terrorists Obama insists on talking about "...these folks who want to blow us up..." it's just ridiculous how often the word is used. I wish politician's speechwriters would drop the word, it doesn't make the speaker 'sound like one of us', it just sounds stupid and out of place.
Sorry, I guess this is just a 'pet peeve'.

Sep. 22 2014 10:19 AM
Anna from Windsor Terrace

Conductor on the uptown C train, after many stops of patiently reminding the crowd to "step all the way into the car," said this when the doors opened at 72nd St.: "Ok people, have a good day, have a good march, make it count."

MAKE IT COUNT!

Making it possible for so many to be there, and sounds like he would've been there himself if he wasn't working yesterday. Touched my heart.

Sep. 22 2014 10:19 AM
Rafael Herrin-Ferri from Sunnyside

Best sign I saw simply scrawled on a piece of cardboard:
"I can't believe we still have to protest this crap!"

Sep. 22 2014 10:17 AM
Mr. Bad from NYC

Man made CO2 emissions are changing the world climate but how much and to what extent? Nobody knows and anybody who says they do is lying to support their viewpoint... look at how stupid Al Gore looks now. you cannot "model" the global climate anymore than you can model the human mind. You can model certain aspects but the multiplicity of variables makes it impossible the entire system.

The only solution that our brilliant politicians have come up is to tax carbon emissions, raise energy prices, create more tradable derivatives for Wall Street (carbon credits) and empower IBC's to either move to countries without a carbon tax regime or simply buy the credits they need at a discount from 3rd world nations. The right wing may simply be ignoring climate change but the left is ready to Obamacare it... increase costs to working people to tamp down demand. Bernie Sanders is just another talking head - albeit one with a better rap.

Sep. 22 2014 10:13 AM
JR from NYC

Sen. Sanders sounds like a very sane man. We need more people like him in politics.
A new FDR is long overdue.

Sep. 22 2014 10:13 AM
Alan from New York

Brian asked about music at the march. The "Bees" contingent had uplifting samba drumming. Another contingent had a superb New Orleans-style band that played, among other things, Thenlonious Monk's "Blue Monk."

Sep. 22 2014 10:13 AM
jgarbuz from Queens

Look, although I agree with Republicans on many if not most issues, I also know the GOP is owned lock, stock and barrel by the coal, oil and natural gas (fossil fuels) industries. For me oil is an enemy that finances Muslim Arab terror against the US, Israel and the "infidel world" and it is economically feasible RIGHT NOW to replace all fossil fuels with solar power and electric cars. The only thing that is stopping it is the brainwashing and addiction by and to the oil and mainstream gas-guzzler industries. So me for me both climate change and terrorism are two major reasons to liquidate the petroleum and coal industries ASAP. And it is possible if we switch to solar panels and electric cars, which pay for themselves in the energy costs they save you over the decades.

Sep. 22 2014 10:12 AM
Jay Weedon from Brooklyn

My favorite sign at the parade yesterday: "I couldn't afford a politician so I bought this sign."

Sep. 22 2014 10:11 AM

WOW!!

…can't decide…Bernie Sanders….Elizabeth Warren…Bernie Sanders…how 'bout a mixed ticket!?!

True heroes!

Sep. 22 2014 10:11 AM
Dan from Sleepy Hollow

The best sign was a pictur of a tree with words something along the lines of "This mighty oak is tiny nut that stood it's ground."

Sep. 22 2014 10:11 AM
John from NJ

My favorite sign - Global Warning: Those Who Deny it Supply it!

Sep. 22 2014 10:10 AM
Josh from Washington Heights

I just sent a note to my friends that " I was glad I did not see any one them at the Climate March".
This is because it was huge; one of the largest I have attended, and I have attended dozens in the past 15 years, including the 1963 March on Washington.

Inspiring to see so many young people, and the diversity of groups participating.

Informative pre-march forum on Saturday night.

Such a formidable lineup of speakers, it was one of the few times anywhere I have seen Brian have to struggle to get a word in. And kudos on your scoop -- getting Bernie (from Brooklyn) to elaborate on his Presidential plans.

Favorite sign: a small, solitary, hand lettered one --- "Friends Don't Let Friends Deny Science"

Sep. 22 2014 10:10 AM
Jane from Westport, CT

There were so many visual treats at the march yesterday but I think my favorite chant that emerged over and over again was "This is what democracy looks like, this is what democracy looks like..." We were a crowd of such interesting diversity: various ethnic groups and social groups, babies to the very elderly, the ordinary and the extraordinary all passionately raising their voices.

Sep. 22 2014 10:10 AM
Steve from nyc

Despite what Mr. Lehrer said, Angus King of Maine is, along with Mr. Sanders, a member of the Senate and is neither a Republican nor a Democrat but an Independent. Like Sanders, he caucuses with the Democrats

Sep. 22 2014 10:05 AM
antonio from baySIde

I hope Senator Sanders runs!

Actually he labels himself as a 'Democratic Socialist...'

Sep. 22 2014 10:03 AM
Jeffrey Caldwell from Brooklyn

It was an amazing event. Here's a video of that moment of silence to noise.
http://instagram.com/p/tOnwXApQsB/?modal=true
#peoplesclimate #brianleher

Sep. 22 2014 10:02 AM

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