Wallace Hall Was Right About UT All Along

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UT System Regent Wallace Hall, the man legislators wanted to impeach for asking too many questions.
Maybe the University of Texas at Austin and its many passionate defenders had reason to beware of Wallace Hall when Governor Rick Perry appointed him to the UT System board of regents in 2011. Perry was pushing some plan he got from a rich oilman to eliminate research as a criterion for granting professorial tenure, an idea scathingly denounced by detractors as tantamount to book-burning.

But having a good motivation only makes this story worse. When Hall began to criticize the way UT-Austin was run on strictly administrative grounds, he was roundly denounced as a sort of fifth-columnist for Perry's assault on tenure. Later when he accused the university of corruption, he was hunted like a witch.

A campaign launched against Hall included impeachment proceedings in the Legislature and a criminal complaint brought to the Travis County district attorney. Even the establishment press turned on Hall, whose greatest sin was doing what the press is supposed to do -- ask questions that make powerful people uncomfortable. An unbroken chorus of editorial page shrieking from Texas' biggest newspapers denounced Hall and called for his resignation.

The dramatic denouement is threefold: Hall has been vindicated of charges he abused his role as a regent. The charges of mismanagement and corruption he brought against UT are all being re-investigated because now people are admitting he was on to something. And finally, Hall's biggest accusers are starting to look like the biggest rats, the ones who had the most to hide.

In fact it's hard to recall a case in Texas history where a person so roundly denounced has been so completely vindicated, not counting Sam Houston's problems with drink.

When he shows up for an interview at a bagel shop in North Dallas, Hall does not look like a pariah, like Sam Houston or like a guy who has been staying up nights. He's 52 with a full mop of sandy hair, looks 42, rides up on a big BMW motorcycle in casual clothes and, generally, once he's got his coffee, is cool as a cucumber.

A CEO and investor, St. Mark's and UT-Austin graduate, Hall has two sons and a daughter at UT-Austin. He first professes his love of the university, then says his first collision with peers on the board of regents was over something that just seemed to him like common sense.

When Hall was early on the board, the university revealed to regents there were problems with a large private endowment used to provide off-the-books six-figure "forgivable loans" to certain faculty members, out of sight of the university's formal compensation system.
Hall wanted to know how big the forgivable loans were and who decided who got them. He wanted to know whose money it was. He was concerned there had to be legal issues with payments to public employees that were not visible to the public.

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UT President William Powers will leave office in 2015.
University of Texas President William Powers painted the law school slush fund as a problem only because it had caused "discord" within the faculty. He vowed to have a certain in-house lawyer get it straightened up. Hall, who thought the matter was more serious and called for a more arms-length investigation and analysis, thought Powers' approach was too defensive. In particular, Hall didn't want it left to the investigator Powers had assigned.

"I had issues with that," Hall says. "I felt that was a bad, bad deal. The man's a lawyer. He lives in Austin. The people in the foundation are his mentors, some of the best lawyers in the state. They're wealthy. He's not going to be in the [university] system forever. He's going to be looking for a job one day."

But Chancellor Francisco Cigarroa and other members of the board of regents did not share Hall's concerns. "I was overruled," Hall says. "That's when I first felt like, one, there's a problem at UT, and, two, the system has set up a scheme that gives the opportunity for a less than robust investigation."

Since then, the university's own in-house investigation, which cleared the law school of any real wrongdoing, has been discredited and deep-sixed. The in-house lawyer who did it is no longer on the payroll. The matter has been turned over to the Texas attorney general for a fresh investigation.

The head of the law school has resigned. The president of the university has resigned. Cigarroa has resigned.

Next, Hall questioned claims the university was making about how much money it raised every year. He thought the university was puffing its numbers by counting gifts of software for much more than the software really was worth, making it look as if Powers was doing a better job of fundraising than he really was.

When Hall traveled to Washington, D.C., to consult with the national body that sets rules for this sort of thing, he was accused of ratting out the university -- a charge that became part of the basis for subsequent impeachment proceedings. But Hall was right. The university had to mark down its endowment by $215 million.

The really big trouble began in 2013 when Hall said he discovered a back-door black market trade in law school admissions, by which people in positions to do favors for the university, especially key legislators, were able to get their own notably unqualified kids and the notably unqualified kids of friends into UT Law School.

UT Law School is supposed to be competitive on a level with Harvard Law and the University of Michigan Law School. When word broke that unqualified candidates were able to get in with help from key legislators, the key legislators went ballistic, immediately calling for Hall's impeachment and removal from office, even though only two elected officials, a governor and a judge, have ever been impeached and removed from office in the history of Texas.

The loudest voice in the Legislature calling for Hall's head, Waxahachie House Republican Jim Pitts, turned out to be the father of a young man whose admission to the law school was at the center of the controversy. Pitts has since announced he will not seek re-election.

Two months ago the head of the university's admissions department resigned abruptly, days after an internal whistle-blower emerged on the admissions issue. The admissions question has been turned over to a major international private investigations agency.

A special committee created for the express purpose of impeaching Hall made the mistake of hiring an honest law firm to investigate charges that Hall had broken the law or violated the oath and terms of his office. The firm brought back a report saying he had broken no laws and was carrying out his duties as a regent.

The impeachment committee, undaunted, paid half a million dollars for a second opinion, buying itself a second report that also found Hall innocent of violations of law but said he should be impeached anyway for snitching. Ultimately the committee was unable to find grounds for impeachment -- apparently snitching is not really against the law -- but the committee voted anyway to censure Hall for what amounted to disloyalty and bad manners.

The committee's final resolution read like they were banishing him from membership in the Kappa Alpha House. The committee solemnly found Hall guilty of acting in a "manner that detracts from, rather than enhances the public image of UT Austin" and in "a manner that does not nurture" UT Austin. No mention was made of the committee members whose kids slipped into UT Law School through the back door.

Four months ago allegations against Hall were presented to the Public Integrity Unit of the Travis County District Attorney's Office, the same body that recently won indictments of Governor Rick Perry. At that time a spokesman said the unit would know within a week whether any criminal charges would be brought. The matter is still hanging over Hall, and the unit had not yet made up its mind, according to a spokesperson.




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B_L_Zebubba
B_L_Zebubba

Hats off - maybe - to University of Texas Regent Hall regarding the law-school loan slush-fund corruption issue - it sounds like it may be improper - but the special admission of sons and daughters of needed "friends" of the University is a common if not particularly seemly tradition in academia; such admissions are referred to as "legacies" and are widely practiced at such vaunted institutions as Ivy League law schools - no bastions of honesty and integrity themselves but with whom the University competes financially and academically: no admit-ty the sons and daughters, no get-ty the Legislative appropriations or donations that fund new buildings and such that allow an institution to attract the best students - the ones looking at Ivy League schools too.

The software over-valuation matter is not so clearly understood, nor is it as troubling. Perhaps it was consequent to over-zealous erring on the side of perceived benefit to the University, combined with laziness in computing the best estimate of value - the article doesn't give us the details - but the matter doesn't appear to be a particularly egregious violation of law or accounting practice: lots of organizations pull such shenanigans; many are caught and when they are they just adjust their books to the proper value, as was done in this case, and move on with business as usual (unless fraud is involved, which is another story). The article doesn't relate any particularly serious consequences of this particular issue, which may go a long way to explaining why the problem happened in the first place.

However the foregoing are administrative/financial-management issues and are entirely separate from management of the faculty; in that regard Mr. Hall the businessman appears grossly out of his league (as would be any other Regent making the same endeavor). Such endeavors are ample justification for apprehension among his fellow Regents, the faculty, alumni and Texas's major news organizations, for Texas has a sorry history of attempted interference in academic affairs by the Legislature and Governor.

"Tier one" universities like the University of Texas are expected to advance societal knowledge, and that advancement occurs in two ways: they conduct and publish cutting-edge research (no matter how arcane it may seem to outsiders, for the uses and benefits of knowledge are unpredictable), and they teach students (such as the next generation of researchers and, via the less-capable students, the next generation of private business employees). The University's academic reputation is its sine qua non, so the loan scheme may be understood to be in (possibly improper) furtherance of this end (especially when seen against the darkness of fiscal reluctance among hillbilly Legislators: it's hard to retain the best legal faculty/researchers when the Legislature won't pay them what their dean thinks they're worth). Mr. Hall's allegations that the loan fund existed to further a cult of personal loyalty to the law school Dean is unsubstantiated and seems a bit fantastic (as in "fantasy"). There's been no evidence presented that the Law School Dean acted in any way - including his use of the loan fund - to do anything other than attempt to advance and maintain the Law School's academic reputation, which was his ultimate job.

While Mr. Hall is to be applauded for finding the administrative improprieties he found, I can see nothing in Mr. Hall's background in this article or anywhere else indicating he has any expertise whatsoever in composing and maintaining a tier one faculty. It appears that the Observer is trying to help glorify Ralph Hall by providing cover for his incompetent academic interference efforts via erroneously trumpeting the importance of his administrative-impropriety discoveries. Mr. Hall would serve the University best by butting out of its academic, faculty-management affairs, for he appears to be utterly unqualified for that job, and other qualified parties are and have been on the job for a long time.

Ultimately this article isn't about a valiant, steadfast assault on a gang of Snidely Whiplashes out to line their own pockets; it seems to be about the unfortunately obligatory take-down of good people caught cutting corners in trying to do the best they could to advance the University's - and thereby the State's - interests despite the fact that they were ultimately responsible to a bunch of dumb penurious mules in the Legislature.

One thing this article doesn't address: the Legislature has at its disposal a staff of auditors in the State Auditor's Office, an arm of the Legislature. They produce annual financial audits of state agencies, including constituents of the University of Texas System. Of particular interest would be the official "management letters" that are produced as part of any independent annual audit by CPAs in the Auditor's Office: these letters are where any findings like loan slush-funds, software over-valuation, and perhaps even improper exceptional admissions, would be reported textually if they were found previously; one wonders what, if anything, the State Auditor's Office had to say about the noted problems at the University of Texas - if they were not previously discovered and reported in management letters, why weren't they?

chowciao
chowciao

Bill Powers is a sorry Bas..t.rd.

iew0
iew0

This has some serious IRS implications. Compensation not reported.  The Travis County DA is the very same one who went after Gov. Perry.  The same Democrat DA that went to jail for DWI and is still in office.  Things never change in Travis County.  They just keep Jury Shopping until they get the right combination.

hankblackgraphics
hankblackgraphics

Good article!  I hope you take some time to detox after sorting through all that stink.

Bob.com
Bob.com

In all this hullaballo, has there been any investigations into the possibility of similar issues at other UT System components? Or has Regent Hall been solely focused on UT Austin?

lobar
lobar

ricky perry el perro from greedy hell,,ugh,,WHY Texans vote for his  CORRUPT ass  is way beyond me!!!

lzippitydoo
lzippitydoo

Wallace has a bias against UT and should be impeached! He was partially responsible for a good President having to step down! As Rick Perry's puppet on the board, his actions tore down vs. helped to build up the school and it is an embarrassment that he is from the Dallas area and went to St Marks! He has NOT been vindicated that he abused his position and he set the school back many years. Thanks for your efforts and you can stay away from serving on any board I am associated with!

gm0622
gm0622

Jim,

excellent article. I see the UT hacks are blindly stepping in and hooking for the horns.

dfw_maverick
dfw_maverick

Jim, you should send a copy of your column to the Travis Co. DA, he is announcing he is still planning on taking the Hall case to a grand jury.  He is unaware that Hall has been vindicated.


The Travis County district attorney's office has confirmed that it plans to bring a case against University of Texas System Regent Wallace Hall before a grand jury soon, according to a report from the Texas Tribune.

The Tribune confirmed the information with Gregg Cox, director of the public integrity unit in the Travis County district attorney's office, who told the news outlet that he plans to have the case brought before a grand jury before the end of the year.

friendlytxn46
friendlytxn46

Wow, this article gives me hope. Some members of the press still take their duties seriously. Thank you, Jim Schutz!

razorwire
razorwire

Nice hack piece. Stick with local issues. You don't know nor will ever know the larger issues at play here. Fall in love with someone else's motorcycle.

jacksonfromtejas
jacksonfromtejas

Jim Schutze writes that UT regent Wally Hall was “completely vindicated” by “an honest law firm” hired by a House Select Committee that investigated Hall’s multiple years-long barrage of harassment against UT (all done at the behest of the man who appointed Hall, Governor Rick Perry). Schutze adds that the Committee ultimately “voted anyway to censure Hall for what amounted to disloyalty and bad manners.” This is all essentially gibberish on Schutze’s part.

In fact, the law firm did NOT sweepingly vindicate Hall as Schutze states. When it released its report in April, the law firm found that Hall divulged private student information, which the report said likely violated state and federal law. It also found that Hall attempted to convince university and system officials to alter their testimonies to the investigating committee, and that some of Hall’s actions may indeed be impeachable, but that the law firm wasn’t going so far as to recommend such action. Schutze twisting this into “completely vindicated” is poor journalism, plain and simple.

In August, the Committee finally voted to censure Hall for “misconduct” and “incompetency in the performance of official duties,” among other things. Schutze twists that into mere “bad manners.” The Committee vote to censure was 6-1, and Republicans and Democrats were in overall agreement, and the point was even made by the Committee that the censure vote didn’t preclude a future impeachment. The money quote was “A vote to censure is not a vote against impeachment.”

Schutze needs an Observer editor to pay more attention to his work. 

jerry_leeper
jerry_leeper

One thing that I don't think was addressed was how much of the Texas big daily's bias in this matter was anti-Perry and how much was an attempt to protect UT-Austin and not incur the wrath of UT alums?

cwi4691
cwi4691

This is why I read your paper. I'm a big UT fan, but also a big fan of openness and fair play in all things related especially to government. If newspapers had to have a license to operate like TV and Radio, all the major Texas papers should have their licenses revoked for failing to dig into and report on this to the people of Texas. It is, after all, our the citizens of Texas that these worms are supposed to be serving. 

CJH7
CJH7

Not a shocker that influential people can get their kids admitted to prestigious universities (maybe at a public university it crosses some line..).  Guess what they also get them great jobs ...


The slush fund, well that's something ...

ja001
ja001

Wow, wondered when Jim would take the contrarian approach on this story.  You have said that he has been vindicated and that is simply wrong and totally inaccurate.  Hall has in fact been admonished and censured - the first time that has happened to any regent in Texas history, for conduct unbecoming of a Regent. Further, the impeachment process is still ongoing. When your lead facts are just so inaccurate, it makes the rest of the story not worth reading.  Come on, you are better than that!  

SM-Alum
SM-Alum

If there is anything you learn at St. Marks, it's tenacity. The worst thing you can do is try to back down a Marksman. Wallace, you make me proud!

jsho12
jsho12

Excellent reporting by Cassidy and Williamson.  I'm particularly impressed by Cassidy...who managed to unearth some very damning information without the backing of a major national publication and using some very clever (but legal) tactics to get access to the records in question.  I'd wager it's only a matter of time before someone scoops him up for big things.
The large papers in Texas ought to be ashamed.  As a Democrat, I get tired of hearing unsubstantiated claims of "liberal bias" but this is clearly a case where they just didn't want to do anything that could be perceived as pro Rick Perry.  A disgrace.

JimSX
JimSX topcommenter

My mistakes so far: as an anonymous commenter says below, Hall has two sons and one daughter, not three sons.

As Mavdog suggests below, I was too quick to assume the forgettable loans were tax free. The forgettable loan is exactly offset by deferred compensation, so that as each year's payment comes due it is cancelled out by an installment of the "deferred" compensation, so it is compensation that is deferred but not really and a loan that is forgettable but not actually. Tax treatment unknown probably not nil as I reported above unless IRS is a fool. My apologies to Hall's daughter and the taxman. 

JimSX
JimSX topcommenter

@lawrenceperson I am gobbling down granola and singing kumbaya songs at fever pitch in order to recapture my proper orientation.

JimSX
JimSX topcommenter

@B_L_Zebubba

You and I started at the same point -- concern over the Rick Perry plan for a reform of higher education through the devaluing of research -- but from, there we depart. How can the goal of truth-seeking through research be defended by corruption and persecution? Put another way, holding the banner of truth high in one hand doesn't give you permission to stick the other hand in the cookie jar.

By the way, trying to gather in those law school admissions under the umbrella of legacy is a pretty far stretch. Few of them were from families who had ever done a damn thing for UT, but admitting them was usually a favor to somebody who could do the university a favor tomorrow. I'm afraid that's just plain old tit-for-tat diplomas for sale. Their performance later on the bar exams, as Jon Cassidy showed at Watchdog, dragged down the entire average and good name of the law school. Pretty high price to pay for legacy. 

B_L_Zebubba
B_L_Zebubba

@iew0 -

Unfortunately for Governor Perry, removal of State officials - whether elected or appointed, even by him - is not his responsibility, and his quest to do so - and thereby appoint the prosecutor of his own improprieties in the process - amounts to a gross abuse of power. He deserves to go to prison for it.

JimSX
JimSX topcommenter

@lzippitydoo

So, on the boards you serve on, you don't want to know about off-the-books slush funds, bad accounting or corrupt practices, because you want to ...let me see if I get this ... BUILD UP the institution?  Please give me a list oft he boards you do serve on, and we'll be down there with the sniff-dogs tomorrow.

B_L_Zebubba
B_L_Zebubba

@dfw_maverick -

Gee, since Schutze has all but anointed Ralph Hall, I don't know why the Travis Co. DA doesn't just stop dead in his tracks and quit.

JimSX
JimSX topcommenter

@razorwire Using office and power and money to punish an honest man and conceal your own wrongdoing is not actually a regional issue. It works pretty much the same everywhere. But maybe you had something more specific to offer? 

jacksonfromtejas
jacksonfromtejas

Schutze, I didn’t conflate the two reports. You were the dishonest one. You didn’t inform your readers that the “honest law firm” that you claim “completely vindicated” Regent Wally Hall was actually an outside counsel hired by the UT System itself!! In other words, the fox paid to guard the henhouse said everything was fine with what Wally Hall did. You didn’t tell the readers of the Dallas Observer this salient fact, did you? No, you didn’t. A more disinterested third party found otherwise, yet you characterize that disinterested third party as having been bought by the House Select Committee to deliver a second opinion because they didn’t like the one from the fox guarding the henhouse.

This is why I wrote that you need an editor. All reporters need an editor. Think of the late, great Mike Royko of Chicago. One of the great muckrakers of his day, a hero of mine. He fished out Chicagoland corruption and took it to the man. In his later years, however, he was a bit of a problem to his employer. He started getting things wrong, he missed key facts, he spun the tales in ways that didn’t totally comport with how it really was. He also became a bit of a weird curmudgeon right-winger after being a progressive for decades. Is he your hero, too? It sure seems so. 

JimSX
JimSX topcommenter

@jacksonfromtejas Are you conflating the two reports, Hilder and Hardin? Hilder found no credible evidence that would warrant a criminal referral. Hardin, the second opinion, found that most of the accusations against Hall were not "independent grounds for the committee to propose impeachment," except for his consultation with CASE in D.C., which Hardin said was not “expected to preserve [the] institutional independence” of UT Austin, did not “enhance the public image” of UT Austin, and did not “nurture[d]” UT Austin." And, yeah, I took the liberty of interpreting all of that as snitching, since, as far I understand, regents are not required to be wet nurses.

And let me tell you something, Pal, in the way of the world, everybody he accuses gets fired or resigns, the big impeachment committee lights off a wet dud, and he's still standing? Maybe vindication was too big a word for you. He won. You lost.

B_L_Zebubba
B_L_Zebubba

@cwi4691 -

Newspapers should have to get a license to print? Apparently you've never heard of this thing called the Fourth Amendment.

Radio and TV stations shave to get a license because the airwaves over which they operate are owned by the public; not so printing presses.

ja001
ja001

I love the snark fellas, but, it doesn't change the fact that it is wrong to say someone has been vindicated as your lead point when in fact that person has been censured and is being referred to the grand jury soon.  I'll grant you the story is a compilation of the Hall talking points of his defense, some of which appear valid on the surface to me, but, we'll have to see what the grand jury thinks about it in context of the entire body of evidence.  As for the facts, I don't see any new ones in this article which is more a summary, though that summary clearly comes down more one sided.    


So to dirty merkin, JS and the rest, how is it factually accurate as the premise of this article to say that Hall has been vindicated when this matter goes before a grand jury soon and he has already been censured? http://trailblazersblog.dallasnews.com/2014/09/ut-regent-wallace-hall-investigation-to-go-before-grand-jury.html/

Chattering_Monkey
Chattering_Monkey

@ja001 How is this contrarian?  Fuck, even the DMN and Rudy Bush were Retweeting this story yesterday.  Id say Jim got this one 100% correct.  If you cant see the facts laid out, then, well that says a lot more about you than it does Shutze

ScottsMerkin
ScottsMerkin topcommenter

@ja001 ja001, sees headline, doesn't read story, comments defending his University blindly, looks like a fool.  Welcome to Unfair Park

JSSS
JSSS

@ja001 Try reading the story before commenting. JS (not to be confused with JSSS) points out the very fact you raise. Of course, he also points out how the censure is complete bullshit. 

JimSX
JimSX topcommenter

I think it's mostly lazy bias, from the top down, which is bipartisan.

B_L_Zebubba
B_L_Zebubba

@JimSX -

So in other words, these "forgettable loans" are just loans today against future compensation that was originally deferred; as that deferred compensation is paid it pays down the loan - a clever way to get money now and pay the taxes later. The tax code enshrines numerous varieties of this, so it's probably not illegal. And if the deferred compensation is in fact to be paid by a private foundation and not the Law School itself, as long as the professor's contracts allowed them to take outside work - and many do - then this money being kept off of UT's books is probably not illegal either. And the deferred pay might be - at least it ought to be if paid at all - reported to the IRS by the private foundation, not UT - again, all very legal even if you and I don't have access to the kind of lawyers and accountants that create such arrangements (given that UT law school is full of tax law professors, I should think they were falling down on the job if this kind of scheme were not in play).

lawsuth
lawsuth

Too many episodes of "My Three Sons," I guess ;)

Great article; like silk across my moral compost.

B_L_Zebubba
B_L_Zebubba

@JimSX -

There's corruption in every large institution. When it's found it needs to be halted, but that doesn't mean its ends are always ignoble or base. Sometimes it means that better methods need to be sought to accomplish the same ends i.e. retaining top faculty; sometimes searching for those methods can be naïve and hopeless, such as when you have to answer to a Legislature full of dumb penurious hillbillies.

I've known a few top administrators in my day; the degree to which they comply with the rules while chasing the organization's objectives is a judgement call. When you cut corners to achieve organizational goals you're usually more or less given a pass by those to whom you have to answer - at worst they say stop doing it and don't do it again, but for some strange reason that wasn't good enough for Mr. Hall. Apparently Powers et al thought such a pass wouldn't be forthcoming in this case so they fell on their swords, administratively and professionally speaking, but that doesn't mean they were crass, corrupt crooks. It may mean that they where over-zealous in furthering the organization's goals, but you often get that with highly-paid, driven people. Far from conflicting with the organization's noble objectives, it may be in furtherance of them.

Whether the friends and relatives of admissions-committee largesse had donated to the University in the past or could be expected to do so in the future - via outright cash donation or their ability to control appropriations in the Legislature - is immaterial. And the damage to be incurred to the school's LSAT passage rate vs. the benefit to be received by appropriations/donations is a judgement call - the same judgement call that's been made for decades at the University's peer institutions in the Ivy League and elsewhere. It's not right but until someone puts a stop to this kind of behavior by the Legislators/donor (or figures out a way for proto-dumb-kids to be spontaneously aborted - my preference), that's the way this world will continue to spin.

For society's sake, thank God for the Bar exam.

razorwire
razorwire

Do your own homework, Jim. It's what you are, sometimes, best at. Locally.

B_L_Zebubba
B_L_Zebubba

@JimSX -

Unfortunately for Mr. Hall this isn't cowboy vs. Indians and counting the dead to determine who won; it's about the propriety of the lengths to which Mr. Hall went to make his points and the importance of those points in relation to those lengths.

jpcassidy000
jpcassidy000

@ja001 Because his accusers haven't sustained one point against him. He leaked? What record? Covered how by FERPA? To whom? Once you go from abstractions like failure to nurture calflings to simple facts, the allegations evaporate.

JimSX
JimSX topcommenter

@ja001 Straus, Zaffirini, Pitts and other members and architects of the kangaroo impeachment committee, should have recused themselves as suspects in the law school admissions matter. They did not, and the action they took, the censure, is devoid of legitimacy as a result. 

ScottsMerkin
ScottsMerkin topcommenter

@ja001 He is vindicated by the fact that others have found the same problems at the school that he found and now his side of story is getting out there.  He innocence will be adjudicated by the Grand Jury down the road

Chattering_Monkey
Chattering_Monkey

@ja001 oooh, he was censured by a bunch of fucks that hated what he was doing...investigating possible graft and corruption by higher ups at UT, so that censure means nothing.  C'mon man, smoke/fire, walks like a duck/quacks like a duck/duck.  Can you deny that students were let into the law school that didnt have the credentials to get there on their own.  Can you deny that they failed the bar once they got of UT law school?  But keep your head buried in the sand.  IT'll be ok to pull it out of the sand soon enough

jsho12
jsho12

@JimSX I find it hard to believe that reporters would accept an explanation that producing public records was too expensive at face value.  That, to me, seems like willful ignorance.

JimSX
JimSX topcommenter

@B_L_Zebubba

I really don't disagree with you ... much. But the people who called Hall out into the O.K.Corral on this stuff -- or let him call them to the corral, whichever -- sort of have to live with the outcome of the shooting. He's up. They're down. Please excuse my simplicity.

B_L_Zebubba
B_L_Zebubba

@ScottsMerkin -


We appreciate your clairvoyance. Who were these "others", what did they find and when did they find it?

jsho12
jsho12

@JimSX Perhaps complacency is more accurate than lazy.  Though I admit the distinction is a pretty small one.

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