Aggressive Los Angeles County Sheriff Department Employees [Video]

It’s not street court.

Lots missing from this story.

Oh….Author/Video guy……lots of times….we are protecting the community FROM you.

http://www.lewrockwell.com/lrc-blog/how-cops-talk-about-mundanes-when-they-think-nobody-else-is-listening/ THEY SOUND LIKE YOU

It’s not lawful if he wasn’t told why. In this video, we see him asking why and not being told. So from what we can see, which may or may not be key, the officer is clearly unlawfully demanding the guy put his hands on the car, after repeatedly asking why. The cop also assaulted him briefly. Arguing = Asking why, which is perfectly lawful? Stop with your fucking bullshit, cop fucker. Respect this guy, and ask for more info. Sounds like he’s being fucked over by your kind, regardless of what he was doing.

SHUT UP ASS BITE.

Did he ever get an answer?

“lots of times….we are protecting the community FROM you.”

No.

I figured it out. Every time you say there’s more to the story or things are missing, you can’t find a way to defend the wrong doings of your friends. It’s OK to want to help your friends, even when they are wrong. It must be frustrating being you. Trying to see the world through your Leave It To Beaver glasses where cops are always in the right because they have a dangerous job. I would love to live in that world too, but it doesn’t exist. Now I just feel sorry for you and your cop friends. Hey, if you and your friends really want to be liked and treated with respect, why not tell them to STOP BREAKING THE LAW, ASSHOLE!!! I bet you wanna scream that at your cop friends like Jim Carrey in the movie Liar Liar. I get how this site is kind of flawed and only shows the bad things cops do. But that’s the point, isn’t it? Cops aren’t all evil. But they aren’t all super righteous either. Maybe we are wrong about some of these articles, but you defending every cop from every story no matter what is either protagonist or just plain stupid. If you are a paid troll, how much do they pay? If not….(in your words) wow, just….wow

Fake Ass Commenter:
That’s not the standard. fraud.

Another pathetic streetsheep copblocker loser. How juvenile of you.

The guy was later served with a search warrant and arrested What is pathetic is the guy cries racial profiling. Funny, the officers were a minority. There is a lot more to this story than what is being said.

“There is a lot more to this story than what is being said.” and yet you always assume the citizens are to blame? What a fuck.

“You should join me in wanting the whole truth. I don’t fear it. I don’t have an agenda that I’m pushing/selling. ”

I think this is my new favorite comment from t.

x3r: it isn’t street court. I don’t have tell hold a disscussion with you in middle of things.

RAD:
Are you able to expound on that?

I doubt it. So I will

Your “victimless crimes” simply aren’t.
As a comtemporanious example….let’s look at the article about the search warrant and subsequent seizure of money just outside of Clevland.
In the incident…..the suspect was observed selling drugs of various types from his home. The police arrested him and during the serivce of a search wRrant uncovered a large s of money
Now in YOUR WORLD…..you think his drug sales were “victimless”
However…..here in the REAL WORLD….drug purchase and use create trail after trail of victims. Likely few of those buyers/users paid for those illict drugs out of their paychecks (if they even get such a thing as likely they aren’t employed or employable)
The overwhelming amount of drug illict drug users….street level users….steal to feed that habit.
That’s far from “victimless”
And that’s. It even touching on the high incidence of domestic violence and abuse or the other types of assaults that frequent that community.

You are a believer in a myth sir. You think because you don’t have to steal to buy your pot that nobody else does either. Yours is a sheltered world that lacks reality

FUCK YOU

Another streetsheep copblocker rant. He was served a search warrant and then arrested. Sounds like he did do something very wrong. Idiot

I think you need to learn the difference between probable cause, and reasonable suspicion. Probable cause is enough for an arrest. Reasonable suspicion is enough for detention. If you ask a cop what probable cause he has for detaining you, he knows INSTANTLY that you don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about.

why are you so obsessed with cop block? are you a pig who needs to be blocked? or worse? i’d be happy to oblige you on the “worse”.

A law enforcement officer isn’t required to tell why they are detaining, if they have what they believe to be reasonable suspicion. Imagine that a bank robber is playing it cool when a cop knows it’s the bank robber. If he tells the bank robber before being able to detain him, it could end up in the robber running, leading to a chase. However… we all know that most cops will lie out their ass when they don’t have reasonable suspicion, just to make the situation go their way.

It’s interesting that you seem to use a large number of words most people don’t know the meaning of, yet don’t understand the simplest of punctuation rules, and don’t seem to proofread your posts. You’re undoubtedly a cop.

Drug users and purchasers are only criminals because your government didn’t get their cut. It doesn’t matter if drug users steal to feed their habit. Cops steal to feed their habits, yet we don’t outlaw police. Bank robbers steal to feed their habits, yet we don’t outlaw banks. Liquor store robbers steal alcohol to feed their habits, yet we don’t outlaw liquor stores. People steal from supermarkets to eat, yet we don’t outlaw restaurants and supermarkets. People steal from gas stations, yet we don’t outlaw cars and gas. People steal from others to feed habits which are completely legal, yet we don’t outlaw those habits. Trying to make drugs unique is a losers game, and proves that you wear cop blinders. Claiming that others can’t see past their sheltered world, while not being able to see past your own sheltered world, makes you a fucking hypocrite. You are a believer in a myth. That’s why people hate you.

Now, think about this… When a man robs someone to pay for something that isn’t drugs, we blame it on the man. When a man robs someone to pay for something that IS drugs, we blame the drugs and the man. Do you not see the utter bullshit ludicrousy in your little fantasy world?

Do you have evidence to substantiate your claim that the “overwhelming amount of illicit drug users” (corrected for idiocy) steal to feed their habit? It’s a fact that you can’t fucking substantiate it, because you don’t know how many people even use illicit drugs, whether they’re street users or not.

You’re the epitomical example of why people fucking hate cops.

Also, you say they aren’t required to tell you in this post, but then your reply to JCs post says (in your exact words) “It’s only lawful if he has reasonable articulable suspicion. Just
because a cop says it, doesn’t mean it’s lawful. The 4th amendment
exists for a reason. You have shown you don’t understand it.”

I’m not sure which standpoint you have on this…

Stand up, Shoot back!

no he was already arrested, and then they served the warrant while he was in jail!!!!

If the victim in this encounter believes that information is being withheld he should ask his attorney to order all discovery on his case or cases. The district attorney is obligated by law to provide all discovery to the defense. Just a reminder never talk to police. The first question you should ask is “am I being detained or am I free to go?” If you are being detained or arrested the police must articulate the reason for your being stopped /detained/arrested. Be sure to loudly articulate your right to remain silent and for your rights under the fourth amendment concerning search and seizures. do not consent to any searches under any circumstances. And ALWAYS film the police

* a very eloquent

Prove it. Post a link to his real story.

The video started with the officer telling them to put their hands on the police cruiser. What happened before that? The video isn’t telling the whole story and neither is he.

That’s a persistent myth, but it is a myth. Sure, in cop TV shows, they usually do it but that’s for the enjoyment of the audience. They aren’t required to.

The only people an officer is required to inform of why he arrested someone is the booking officer at the police station and the judge at the ensuing trial.

An officer failing to tell someone why he is being arrested doesn’t make the arrest unlawful. Resisting the arrest because the officer didn’t tell you something he doesn’t have to tell you IS a criminal act.

please people if you don’t know what the hell your talking about Just STFU!!! I get jacked all the time like this and it is BS because I dress a certain way or hang with certain people ? WGAF? this is a free society Pigs and we have Rights wether you like it or not..and as long as WE do id appreciate them not to be violated no matter how petty or Stupid your lil Brainwashed ass may think it is!!!! fucking Robots kiss Ass!

>>The officer told you to put your hands on the vehicle. You continued arguing with them. It was a lawful order. <<

No, it wasn't. Not unless he was being lawfully detained. And during a lawful detainment, the officer MUST articulate probable cause. If the officer cannot articulate probable cause, then you are legally free to go. Of course, walking away is a good way to get shot in the back and accused of resisting, so it's best to do what this guy did – start recording and keep asking why you are being detained.

All the officer had to do was say, "You are being detained on suspicion of…"
whatever, and that would make it a lawful order. His refusal to do that should be sufficient to prove he was just violating another black man's rights.

>>A law enforcement officer isn’t required to tell why they are detaining, if they have what they believe to be reasonable suspicion. <<

Yes, they are. If you ask, they must tell you. They CAN straight-up lie, but they have to tell you SOMETHING.

>>Just because an officer believes he has reasonable articulable suspicion that a crime was, or is about to, be committed, doesn’t mean he’s required by law to tell the suspect why he’s being detained. <<

He is if the suspect asks. The officer is not obligated to be entirely truthful, but he is obligated to articulate a reason for the detainment.

As much as I hate to say it but 3 brown guys hanging out does not imply a crime is occurring ….

this guy doesn’t speak english lmao. you could ask him “what am i being detained for?” for 20 years he’s not going to respond LOL

He was lawfully detained. The officer doesn’t have to say anything until the suspects are appropriately secured. Also, the officers were a minority and the race card is just pure BS.

Why do cops believe that anything that oozes from their mouths is automatically a lawful order?

Then why do you comment here.

You waste so much time with your propaganda comrad.

wwwwoooowwww, you’ll never get attention or support that way.

Another pathetic statement by an impostor. What is sad is you have to use someone else’s name to voice your sick and pathetic homosexual fantasies. You will be in jail before long.

Zairy:
Ummm….wrong.
Video is always completely bias. It can only show 1 point of view. That’s its limitation. It makes matters worse when the video is edited to show an even more bias view like this one.

A video shows one POV (point of view), yes, however it is inherently UNboiased because is showed no PERSPECTIVES. Whether you show from my POV or yours, the perspective of the cop trying to defend himself or not will be the same no matter whose camera shows him pull the trigger. THAT is the crux of unbiased. No matter who “sees” the confrontation, it is the same. THAT is what I mean by “unbiased.”

At the moment of detention you have the right to know WHY you are being detained and exactly what crime you are suspected of committing. All you have to do is ask. Legally they can’t just say “you’re under arrest”, cuff you and then proceed to jail you. Especially if the whole thing is recorded.

Then expect people to tell you to fuck off.

Aaron:
The “A” of RAS means that the officer has to be able to explain what his RS was to stop/detain/investigate someone to a judge/judicial official.
Not in the middle of said incident.

Now it may be better to explain it….and most times we do. But not to screaming demands that are only going to create an argument.

This video is yet again an edited video that shows you only what the poster wants you to see. There was more before this and obviously more after this. Funny though….he doesn’t post that. There’s a reason.

steve:
Read up on the idea of “context”

Your comment: “Even when they are in the wrong” which was made on a thread about someone bitching about the way the police dealt with them during a street encounter.

The simple use of the word “if”….as in “even if the police are wrong” changes that greatly.

Sorry but the order was lawful. The officer was doing an investigation. Notice how the author went on to say he was arrested and a search warrant was executed. He also went on to say he has been fighting this for 7 months. It was a lawful order.

Just relax…just relax… let us do whatever we want….. trust us… I know I put my hand on my gun….

You can’t make that statement. Just because there was an investigation doesn’t give the officer the power to do whatever he wants, there is simply no debate on that point, it is completely settled at law.. Your argument is literally the officer arrested him and a warrant was issued so the order was lawful, I saw nothing that inherently made the order lawful, and subsequent actions don’t make previously unlawful orders lawful. I’m sorry, I’ve said I’m not taking a hard line either way but your argument to support the alleged lawfulness is not persuasive. What and WHEN the officer knew things is VERY relevant. An order that was unlawful at the start of a stop could be made again later in a stop and then be lawful, but it doesn’t mean that the original order was lawful. That’s the point.

It MAY have been a lawful order, but there is simply insufficient evidence available to US to make a determination. It could go either way, if it was lawful then fine, but without more details and evidence we can only make assumptions.

There is no period, you have taken a hard line with very little information that does not show what you claim, such a stance shows a lack of critical thinking. your blind support of law enforcement is unfortunate. Lets hope you never end up on the wrong side of a cops bad day.

Innocent people get arrested EVERY DAY, hell people who have actually done NOTHING illegal get warrants served on them because they demanded the cops follow the law or showed the cops being stupid or breaking the law. So an arrest and a warrant mean literally nothing, they are certainly insufficient to support your assertion. You want a case of EXACTLY that, look up Anthony Graber, it has warrants and an arrest for something the cops KNEW was legal.

So not period at all.

JC is an unamerican socialist pig.

Sorry it just came out.

Elliot:
But you can’t say the order was unlawful for the very same reason. The video was edited and presented to you to hide that information.

I’m happy my neighbors are able to grow their own “pot” so there is less incentive for them to try to steal to get it. Kind of like how in the areas where cocaine grows on trees there is almost zero crack use. Interesting that the more the drugs become available the fewer of the social problems that go “hand in glove” in a prohibition market (like gangland killings during alcohol prohibition),

Yeah, cool liberal feel good theories, prohibition was an interesting social experiment. Too bad the evidence has shown them to be a failure. Nice try, though. Just too bad it has contributed so much harm along the way.

Yes, period. The interesting thing about this article is the author never posted his name or any of the names of his friends. If he was so “innocent”, he would. He also didn’t post the LE side of the story. He just stated, “As a result of me recording the police five days later gained a search warrant for my house under false pretenses in direct reprisal and arrested me on bogus charges. I have been fighting my case for 7 months and I believe that I am being railroaded because there are aspects of my case that are sealed and kept secret from me”.

Everything the author wrote is just his side of the story and more than likely greatly exaggerated. Again, yes the warrant meant something as did his arrest. Some other copblock articles, the author writes what LE charged them with and how the court appearances are going. This guy just wrote the typical “poor me” scenario.

He just wanted to buy some of your drugs. Hahahah And by the way what charge, oh wait you didn’t say that part did you? Shut up and have fun in a cell

Of course its his side of the story. Duh..

If this guy did something wrong, I got no problem with him being prosecuted, if the cop screwed up I got no problem with him being prosecuted too, I don’t see gray area here, its all very black and white.

But in the end you still miss my point, this could actually be on the up and up and the guy deserves the charges, we don’t have enough information to decide for ourselves. With that said, I have also seen cases where cops DID retaliate in similar ways for a video making them look bad or catching them breaking the law, so its not hard for me to believe it is at LEAST possible. Whether that is what is occurring HERE, the first sentence of this paragraph is clear, WE CAN’T KNOW, PERIOD.