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How One Man's Flaming Water Fired Up a Battle Between Texas and the EPA
Steve Lipsky's epic battle and what it means for the future of fracking.
On June 20, 2011, the Lipskys sued the developer of Silverado-on-the-Brazos and Range Resources in a Parker County district court for contaminating their well. To prove it — and to counter the experts who swayed the Railroad Commission that spring — he hired petroleum engineer and former commission hearing examiner Buddy Richter.
Richter had his work cut out for him. Range — a company with $9 billion in outstanding shares and some 500,000 leased acres across the country — had almost unlimited resources. Among the experts Range brought before the Railroad Commission were petroleum geochemists trained at Harvard and the Massachusetts Institute of Technology; Halliburton directors of technology and microseismology; and a go-to hydrogeologist who contracts for municipal water districts.
To create a crack big enough to reach from the Barnett Shale, more than a mile below the surface, to Lipsky's 200-foot-deep well would require hundreds of thousands, if not millions of barrels of fracking fluid, Halliburton director Norman Warpinksi testified at the hearing.
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Alisa Rich of Wolf Eagle Environmental backed Steve Lipsky's claim that gas drilling had contaminated his drinking water.
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Shawn Scott, fire marshal in Parker County, witnessed Lipsky's flaming water in 2010.
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Petroleum engineer John McBeath said integrity tests of the casing and cement lining in Range's wells, designed to keep fracking fluid and gas from the aquifer, proved there were no leaks. McBeath said he believed Lipsky's problem was natural. After all, he added, a well drilled at around the same time as Lipsky's, some 900 feet away, hit gas immediately.
Even before that, a nearby public water system, Lake Country Acres, had signs on its water storage tanks that read, "No Open Flame," dating to around 1995. Both produced gas years before Range drilled either of its wells.
At least one neighbor's water well had been drilled so deeply that it penetrated a natural gas-bearing formation called the Strawn. This well, he testified, was a more likely conduit for the gas in Lipsky's well.
Dr. Charles Kreitler, a hydrogeologist, speculated that depletion of the aquifer to keep the lavish landscaping alive in the Silverado development could be pulling water and gas from the Strawn formation directly beneath it.
The testimony from Mark McCaffrey, the MIT-educated petroleum geochemist with Weatherford Laboratories, was the coup de grace Range sought. McCaffrey believed that the gas in Lipsky's well was from the Strawn, not from the deeper Barnett Shale formations Range tapped. Lipsky's, his neighbors' and Range's gas all had one thing in common: They were thermogenic, created during the breakdown of organic matter by subsurface heat. But Lipsky's gas had higher nitrogen levels than Barnett Shale gas and was nearly identical to Strawn gas.
Based on the timing of Lipsky's water problems and the thermogenic nature of the gas in his well, the EPA assumed they must have been the same. "This would be like using wings to separate birds from bats," he said.
If gas from deep within the Barnett Shale was leaking up through Range's wells and into the aquifer, McCaffrey said he would have expected to find it in a port at the top of Range's well. There was indeed gas pressure there, but McCaffrey said gas fingerprinting proved it was merely shallow gas "weeping" into the uncemented portion of Range's well.
Mother Nature, McCaffrey assured the commissioners, was caught red-handed. In an intra-agency email, even EPA's own geochemist had warned that gas-bearing formations other than the Barnett Shale needed to be ruled out before the agency fingered Range.
McCaffrey might have been surprised to learn that Lipsky's expert, former Railroad Commission examiner Richter, agreed that Range production gas from the Barnett Shale was not the source contaminating the water, but that's beside the point, Richter contends.
The commissioners ignored the fact that from roughly 400 feet below the surface to more than 4,000 feet, Range's well was uncemented, exposed to thousands of feet of gas-bearing earth above the shale. Somehow, Richter believed, that gas had seeped up Range's well and ultimately into Lipsky's water.
Under questioning by commission examiners, McCaffrey admitted that he hadn't considered that possibility. He also conceded that the gas sample the EPA collected from Lipsky's well was so similar to Range's that it was all but impossible to separate them.
Why, Richter asked, were other gas wells in the area cemented up to 600 feet deep? Why had nearby abandoned wells been plugged to a depth of 1,000 feet? What were they trying to keep out of these wells? It was the shallow gas, he surmised.
He pointed to the testimony of Larry Peck, the man who drilled Lipsky's well. Said Peck, "I might add that there wasn't any gas in [Lipsky's] well at the time I drilled it."
Testimony before the Railroad Commission also seemed to ignore the presence of unacceptable levels of benzene in Lipsky's water. Rob Jackson, a Duke University researcher and professor of biogeochemisty, tells the Observer that benzene is naturally occurring, particularly in aquifers near gas-bearing formations, but when it's detected above safe limits that's a "red flag" something is wrong.
In an interview, Range's attorney brushed off the presence of the cancer-causing compound, noting that in other samples, benzene was found slightly below hazardous levels.
"It's really speculation about where some of those kinds of things come from," says attorney Andy Sims. "But there is a natural explanation."
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Like most pro-drillers at any cost, you miss the point and like these gas companies' PR flacks, are attempting to change the direction of the conversation. Natural gas development is not sustainable, but the environmental impacts are permanent. Secondly, you may have been there 'first', and I fully support your right to do with what you want with and on your land, but you have no right to impact mine. You want to be surrounded by leaking wells, that's perfectly fine with me. Just make sure you understand that you need to keep all your chemicals-liquid and vapor contained to YOUR property and those wells can only impact YOUR water supply. Since that's neither possible or feasible, you may want to weigh your $37 royalty check versus the lawsuit against you.
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"EPA staff acknowledge HF, RRC not to blame for Parker Co. wells"http://www.energyindepth.org/i...
"Just one problem: The isotopic analysis the agency used as the basis for that order doesn’t include a word about nitrogen. Believe it or not, those tests were never run. This morning’s Fort Worth Star-Telegram has the details:"http://www.energyindepth.org/e...
http://www.energyindepth.org/e...
"A judge has concluded that a Parker County resident, owner of a methane-contaminated water well, created a "deceptive video" that was "calculated to alarm the public into believing the water was burning."
Read more here: http://www.star-telegram.com/2..."
"The Environmental Protection Agency has dropped its claim that an energy company contaminated drinking water in Texas, the third time in recent months that the agency has backtracked on high-profile local allegations linking natural-gas drilling and water pollution."http://online.wsj.com/article/...
"it reignites the conversation about what’s become a troubling trend for EPA: Every time EPA intervenes in a high-profile case – generating scads of maligning headlines about shale and hydraulic fracturing in the process – the agency ends up getting it wrong."http://www.energyindepth.org/e...
Mr. Hargrove, it may be helpful to clarify these statements:
"Mr. Lipsky turned on the valve at the top of the wellhead and said, 'Watch this,'" Scott recalls. Water gushed from the wellhead. A few flicks of a lighter, and water and flame poured forth together.
These statements are, of course, referring to the "water" wellhead not a gas "wellhead," but that can be confusing at first glance and since that word, "wellhead," does not appear in your article prior to this paragraph. Thank you.
Lies, lies and more lies by the enviro Nazis. As we all know now Big Al and Sauron get up in the morning so they can crucify anyone working in the oil and gas industry, just like the Romans did right Albert? Next thing you know these two slimballs will want to feed anyone working in the industry to the lions just like the Romans did to the Christians, right Albert and Sauron.? Of course none of this stopped Sauron from leasing her minerals in Wise County for oil and gas exploration to the evil industry. If anyone reading this article has a mental clue watch the documentary SpOiled. Most of the envrio Nazis have no idea that the so-called renewables only comprise half of 1% of the total energy mix of this country. The Chinses are buying oil and gas assets all over the planet. They are laughing at us. As Lenin said people like Big Al and Sauron are very useful idiots to the communists and Chinese.
Just like so many other anti fracking articles, there is no proven facts about actual fracking dangers. The best argument you got is well casings that don't go deep enough, which could occur on any type of drilling and should be investigated. But headlines that leave out FRACKING don't get read do they?
My grandmother had gas in her water well outside of Chicago! Who can we sue since there is no oil & gas production within 100 miles of her home?
Great reporting. I agree with the commenter below. I hope you will now turn to focus on the air emissions.
In my view:Air emissions are clearly the biggest problem.Sulfur compounds are clearly the biggest part of that program.There is still no serious monitoring for carbon disulfide, carbonyl sulfide, or hydrogen sulfide..
Please check me on these three facts:
The Fort Worth Natural Gas Air Quality Study, released by Eastern Research Group last summer, at a cost of over 1$M, is probably the most comprehensive and systematic study of ambient air pollution ever performed in an urban environment. - The ERG team works closely with EPA. This is one of the top analytical labs in the world. Easy to check this.
The results from the FWNGAQS study indicate, that out of the 138 Chemicals sampled, carbon disulfide was the only chemical clearly associated with elevated levels near the NG activities. Overwhelmingly associated. Somehow, discussion of this key result gets left out of the official 320 page report released to the public. Please check this fact.
Carbon disulfide has long been the solvent of choice for the purposes of Enhanced Oil Recovery from oil and gas wells - even before they started calling it that. Check this. Its all right there in the patents and publicly disclosed. Check Joseph Allen's patents from Texaco. Union Oil and solid dithiocarbamates, Pending 2012 patents by Shell and etc. None of these guys are shy about the reasoning behind their long-standing preference for injecting and utilizing CS2 downhole.
Shell Oil Company seems to have some big big plans for widespread, on-site production of CS2. Or maybe these are all just meaningless patents. I sure don't know. You might check.
Obviously a personal tragedy, but one at least found out so it can be dealt with. If the horizontal drilling and hydrofracking causes problems this dramatic, think what might be happening that is not being found out - - yet?
1) What if Steve Lipsky was a smoker and went out to water his lawn and he ignited a flame that literally caught him on fire?
2) What if Steve Lipsky was a smoker, his house filled up with natural gas (as he was warned could happen), and he came home from a vacation week and entered his home with his family while smoking? No one in his immediate family would probably be around to complain.
3) Suppose the natural gas leak was occurring in some unidentified place in nature and someone walked by smoking or had some other form of ignition with them?
4) Suppose many natural gas leaks were occurring unidentified places in nature and no one ever noticed for years on end. As natural gas is a greenhouse gas, what would the effect of billions of CF of natural gas escaping have on our environment? I suppose that some government agency could always blame the cows - - at least in Texas.
Talk about planting land mines in our environment!
Overall, the impact of shale gas drilling on our cities and out in our rural areas is an environmental negative no matter how it's "dressed up." An operator "proving" by their own methodology that a water well was contaminated by another gas formation and not from hydrofracking must provide a momentary sigh of relief for the oil and gas industry. Even if there were other tests performed by the EPA that "proved" something quite different.
I like to know that there's something called the Environmental "Protection" agency and that it's present in our fossil fuel lovin' state. Like a doctor who sees danger and makes a decision to prevent a more serious problem from developing...this should help us all know that this agency is working hard to make absolutely sure Texans are not in imminent danger. Thank God that they are here and erring on the side of our safety.
Dr. Armendariz is heroic for his willingness to take on this job in Texas for the past 3 years. It takes a person with a great deal of strength and courage to question any of the gas operators about their operations ~ especially when there are so many issues that are developing every day with this *new* technology for bleeding the earth of every last drop of fossil fuel.
One thing we also know...based on all those industry links you provided...the industry reacts very strongly when anyone questions what they are doing. They have a much bigger staff than we do. And they are paid. They don't even like our cities tightening up on our Gas Drilling Ordinances. Have you ever been in one of those meetings? The citizens and the city councils can be overwhelmed by these industry reps and the lessors they encourage to speak up for something they may know very little about. So, there's a lot more to all of this than water contamination of a private water well. Tomorrow is another day in gasland.
Fracking does not pay. It costs. It is all a Ponzi scheme to sell gas companies to sucker investors. The current market rate is about 20% of the breakeven cost. Even a guy like pak152 SHOULD be able to figure that out except for the fact that he is very mathematically and integrity challenged.
Mikey, it appears that you need some lessons in civics and government. Just so you will know, Nazis are far right wind on the political philosophy scale, and commies are on the far left - they have nothing in common. Therefore, I fail to see how "enviro Nazis" could ever be useful to the commies and China, which are diametrically opposed to Nazi philosophy.
In your zeal to toss around insults and ad hom attacks you suffered a complete and total failure of logic and political fact. I apologize for pissing in your cereal, but somebody needed to set you straight before you make an even bigger fool out of yourself.
"Spoiled" is industry propaganda put out by people who harbor a strictly pro-industry agenda, though they claim not to actually be from industry, kinda like people like you, pak152 and a couple of others who do not really care for the truth when it gets in the way of their dogma. One or more of you guys is actually Ed Ireland of the Barnett Shale Education Association (or whatever the hell the name of his Big Oil Big Lie machine is.)
It must really gall you guys that, despite all your bravado, lies and disinformation, and through no fault of those opposed to frac'ing, the natural gas industry is collapsing and Wall Street is starting to run away. Gas is now selling for somewhere near a buck 80 for a thousand cubic feet and it needs more than four times that amount just to break even on drilling, frac'ing and production costs. Greed and believing your own bullshit has driven the price of gas far below profitability, and lies about long-term royalty revenues are being laid bare. The amount of recoverable reserves has been substantially reduced twice in 5 or less months by the US EIA, proving again that industry lied to investors about the volume of reserves they have on tap.
Be pissed at us who oppose natural gas production all you want, but in the end your side is the loser and we are going to win just because of your greed and stupidity. You guys make our efforts so much easier. Besides, we are not really opposed to drilling and production - we are just opposed to drilling and production by unsafe and unproven methods and in densely populated urban areas using and destroying huge amounts of water in the process.
You can rest assured that we are enjoying watching the implosion of greed and stupidity. Hold your thoughts for a minute - I need to go microwave another bag of popcorn. This is going to be a long movie!
Mike, the NAZIs are people like you who think you have the right to do whatever you want regardless of how it harms others. But, your idea of feeding all oil and gas people to the lions would be a great idea if not for the fact it would sicken and kill the lions.
As you mention, The Chinese are buying up our natural gas rights. They already own 68% of Chesapeake. All those lies about natural gas giving us "energy independence from the Middle East" and a "100, 200 or even 300 year supply of cheap, domestic fuel" are proven to be lies by the very fact that American gas producers are selling out to foreign entities such as the Chinese Investment Corporation, and preparing to build export liquification terminals to send our gas to countries that also take our American jobs.
It takes an absolute idiot not to see the truth when it is staring you in the face. There are none so blind as those who refuse to see.
Wow. "Enviro Nazis"?? What an uninformed and divisive comment!!
It's totally predictable that the Oil and Gas Industry would be working overtime to try and negate the efforts of our current EPA Region 6 Administrator and others who have been working so diligently to educate our communities about all of this.
All pipelines leak. Did you know that? The "unregulated" gas gathering pipeline system covers our communities in the old Barnett Shale. A gas gathering pipeline eventually hooks up to a pad site when at least one well has been drilled and fracked. It then connects to the gathering system highway to get the shale gas out of North Texas and the Barnett Shale. It is in over abundance right now form all the drilling and fracking and a lot of it is being stored. Did you know that? But when the LNG centers are in place down South, it will be sent down there and converted to liquid natural gas and shipped overseas. That's what we've learned. All of this puts our communities in danger:
http://switchboard.nrdc.org/bl...
Sadly, many are unaware of this system since it has been done under the cover of just some regular "utility construction." Industry has controlled our towns and cities with their bonus checks and promises of help and prosperity. Communities and residential neighborhoods have been transformed forever into industrial zones. "Clean energy" continues to be the mantra. Dallas is next on the list unless more speak up and learn what's happening to our beautiful land that will never be the same.
If China is "laughing at us," as you have mentioned, then it is NOT because they share the same values we do about environmental protections. Besides that, this is not ONLY about protecting our environment (which is ultimately the issue)...this is about land grabs and lying to large groups of people about royalties they can expect to receive for the next 30 years and telling neighborhoods, "You'll never know the gas wells are here." This is a HUGE debacle on so many levels. Did you hear about Chesapeake's CEO this week? The SEC wants to know more, too.
If we allow the industry to pressure the court of public opinion to remove Dr. Al Armendariz, then we are gonna need to hang up another BIG sign on Texas sooner rather than later ~ something like this:
"Damn It. They Really Did Mess with Texas This Time. Enter at Your Own Risk."
Smith, you are a liar! The fact is that people refer to fracking as the whole process. You cannot frack a well that is not drilled. Casing pipe and cement are part of the whole program, so your argument is baseless and stupid, as well as illiterate. It does not matter what part of it casues the problem. What matters is the problem. You are merely arguing semantics.
Smith, we do "know" that all gas gathering pipelines leak. What do you think they leak, Smith? Clean Air?? And did you know they are "unodorized"? Meaning: No odor to detect a leak like you have in your home. And wow, the Barnett Shale is one BIG web of gas gathering pipelines for getting this shale gas from wellheads to somebody's market. Anti-fracking is just one big part of this. It's all very overwhelming, Smith.
There are no "proven" facts to dispute the potential dangers of fracking, either. This business takes place so deep underground that no one really knows for sure what the hell is actually going on. This parade of experts could only offer their best educated guesses, but they don't really know the truth.
Personally, I think there's much more to the dangers of fracking than any of these energy companies would ever willingly admit to.
So because somebody else made a mistake 20 years ago we should not drill in Parker County? That might work in a tony little suburb like Flower Mound but wouldn't work in mostly rural Parker County!
Uh, because it's accomplished by pumping ridiculous amounts of toxic chemicals deep underground where it can comingle with the water table? Because it likely causes earthquakes?
Your question is possibly the most inane thing I've read on the Internet this week, and that says something.
That makes about as much sense as suing gas companies operating a mile below the surface for problems that water well drillers in Parker County have known about for 20 years!
Now you are worried about a company's profit margin? Who are you to decide what is an acceptable risk? And now you are deciding who is right based on the majority? How about who was here first, the rural landowners or the city dwellers? How about we decide based on who has the most land? With statements like there are NO benefits from natural gas drilling you are obviously very well informed!
Okay, let's look at the facts.
Chesapeake Energy, the second largest natural gas producer in the world, is led by a pathological liar, Aubrey McClendon, who was just removed from his seat as Chairman of the Board of Chesapeake, and who is currently under investigation by the SEC, IRS and Department of Justice for any number of scandalous activities that are highly illegal and unethical.
Natural gas needs a wellhead price of about $8-9 per thousand cubic feet (mcf) to breakeven on production costs, but it is currently sellling for under $1.85/mcf, so NOBODY is making any money on it. In fact, wells are being shut in, and by October America will exceed its storage capacity, at which time ALL wells will be shut in and nobody is going to get royalty payments.
The amount of damage done by drilling and fracking to our environment, whether rural or urban, is unacceptably high. There is zero benefit. We cannot afford to have our water polluted, our air contaminated and our soil poisoned for the sake of shareholder equity and corporate profits, or some some hick in the sticks can pursue his "mineral rights." The rights of the few do not outweigh the rights of the many.
It is not about "curtailing natural gas." It is about protecting our environment without which none of us can survive. Apparently, that is too deep for you to comprehend.
If "curtailing"natural gas use is your goal, then conservation is a more effective strategy. People in rural areas sometimes have held the same property for hundreds of years. What about their rights to develop their property? I'd say based on our farm policies that those people w large land holdings are a pretty powerful group, wouldn't you?
Not completely clear on your comment...but my guess is that you mean industry should have more leeway in rural communities than in a suburb? If so, then, you may be missing the point that hydrofracking of horizontal wells with chemicals, sand and fresh water has only been viable since around 2006...in the Barnett Shale. So, it's a new technology for getting the gas (and only a very small percentage of that gas) out of the shale formation at least a mile below the surface. Unconventional drilling for gas in shale is not going to be as successful at getting all the gas as in former years using conventional (vertical) drilling) at more shallow depths.
We are at the end of the era of fossil fuels. Problems with all of this out in the rural communities will affect ALL of us...if the water is contaminated at any stage in the process. Fracking chemicals are necessary...did you see what happened at the Waxahachie Magnablend Plant that blew up? Contamination of our lakes and streams is already in progress. This is a dangerous business. And the environmental impacts may not be totally known for years. We should be curtailing this and not continuing the build out.
pak152 never makes anything except inane statements. I think he is an industry plant, but he does not have the balls to tell us exactly what his credentials are or who he works for. His comments indicate that he works for some gas company in some capacity, probably as a disinformation agent.
After reading most of the comments regarding this article, and as a person that was ignorant of this issue of fracking, I must say that WCGasette has remained respectful, logical and clear in his/her opinions and backs up those with research and data.
Angrywhitey and Pak152 simply resort to common childish responses when they cannot clearly rebut the comments with facts. Much like when a person is rebuked for something they did wrong and the only response the person can come up with is "So?".
All in all, with their inane rhetoric, Angrywhitey and Pak152 have done the most to move me against their point of view. WCGasette has provided the insight (not to mention good manners thoughout this debate) to convince me that fracking is a dangerous process.
FYI, we are talking specifically about water wells near shale gas drilling operations. Precisely, what are you talking about? Focus, darlin'.
Ah. You had that answer ready no matter what anyone wrote in reply, AW. Good job. But not that good.
While water wells may contain naturally occurring methane (natural gas) in some places, the Lipsky's Parker County Water Wells in question here, Water Well #1 and Water Well #2 did NOT have methane (natural gas) contamination when they were first put into production in 2005 and 2002, respectively.
See the EPA's Emergency Administrative Order and read all about the original condition of these 2 Water Wells. Scroll down to Items #12, #13, #34 and #35:
http://www.epa.gov/region6/6xa...
Also, the isotopic fingerprinting of the Well Water conducted by the EPA revealed that the methane (natural gas) in the Water Wells was the "same" as the markers for the nearby shale gas wells first drilled and fracked in 2009 ~ Butler Unit and the Teal Unit. See Items #21, #22 and #25.
It's an excellent 11 page document ~ clear and concise. Unfortunately, our Texas regulatory agency has a strong bias against federal regulation via the Safe Drinking Water Act.
Since the Trinity Aquifer (Item #6) is located under 20 Texas counties (including Parker and Hood), we should all be concerned about our fellow Texans who may very well be drinking unsafe water today.
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