The other side of the story from Energy In Depth? BWAHahahahahahaha! That is the same outfit that has a picture of me on their website claiming I am the “orchestrator” of the make believe conspiracy against Range Resources. Nobody, and I mean NOBODY, pays any attention to what they say.
Where do you think the other side of the story is going to come from? The media?
The article seemed to be pretty informative to me, and included facts that materially change the situation in comparison to the one-sided light that you cast it in.
Since you didn’t address any part of the article, I’ll post an excerpt from it for your opinion.
“So, where do we draw the line? Should this landowner have been required to continue to spend money to maintain a mobile home park when the landowner had no longer desire to continue the business? Especially when public policy is to move families to higher ground anyway to avoid damages and losses that come with living in a floodplain?”
Be careful of the “facts” on the IED website. They play awfully loose with the “facts” to suit their purpose. That’s why no one much pays any attention to them and why they are a joke.
No relation whatsoever, just a practical approach based all of the facts that isn’t laden emotion and hidden (albeit not very well) agenda against the industry.
Am I happy that those people are being displaced? Of course not. Do I look at all of the facts surrounding the displacement instead of blindly focusing on a narrow objective? Yes. Please let me know if I’m missing any material facts directly relating to this case and this case only. I’m not interested in hearing your general opinion of the industry, as I already know what it is.
I thought for sure you’d mention the fact that each owner is only being offered $2,500 to relocate, but I guess it’s easier to effectively end all conversation and throw your best “gotcha” at me by quoting Upton Sinclair. I guess that about covers it.
My point is you should not be attacking fracking, because Aqua is within their legal right to do what they are doing. You should push for legislation which forces mobile home parks to give more advance notice to home owners, and you should consider the fact that they live in a flood plain in an industrially zoned area.
But it’s all to further an anti-drilling agenda I’m afraid (which is why you paint Aqua as the bad guy).
“The Riverdale Mobile Home Park area has been designated as a zone of extraction. Get out of our way!”
What if any other industrial project would have come through there and forced home owners to leave? Would this be posted on your blog? The area IS zoned for industry.
Drilling should never happen in a flood plain. That’s just insane with all the evidence of frequent spills, lack of regulation, and shoddy operations.
If the industry wanted to create goodwill–which they talk about often but that talk is cheap–they should step up and relocate those families. $2400 won’t cut it.
How many lives do you think this industry can destroy and get away with it?
I don’t blog about other industries. I blog about the fracking industry.
IF THE COUNTY DOESN’T WANT A MOBILE HOME PARK IN A FLOOD ZONE, WHY CAN THEY ISSUE A PERMIT FOR HUGE WATER PUMPS ON THE LAND. WHEN AND IF THIS LAND WERE TO FLOOD LIKE IT DID BACK IN 1972, IT WILL WIPE OUT THE PUMP STATIONS AND WASH THEM DOWN THE RIVER. NO DIFFERENT THAN A MOBILE HOME WASHING DOWN THE RIVER.
It doesn’t look to me like Aqua will be doing any drilling on the flood plain.
Again, you place the blame squarely on the industry. This mobile home park owner decided to set up shop in an area zoned for industry. These people decided to move into the mobile home park located in an area zoned for industry. Did the mobile home park owner disclose the fact that the area is zoned for industry to the potential mobile home owners? Should they be required to if they are not already? That is an entirely different debate. If the mobile home owners knew that the area was zoned for industry before they moved in, they did so at their own risk, and the industry that just happened to move in was associated with unconventional oil and gas drilling, which is why it landed on your blog.
The anonymous person posting the pro gas comments is someone from Dimock Proud, a group of land owners trying to get Cabot Oil and Gas to start drilling again in a 9 square mile radius in Dimock, PA that was shut down by the DEP. They blame the family’s suing Cabot for their “loss of income”. This Riverdale Park situation is not a legal issue, it is a moral issue. The company has a moral obligation to these people to give them a fair compensation for their moving costs. After all, the water they are taking from the Susquehanna River and selling for a profit belongs to all of us.
Thank you for explaining. So much about fracking boils down to moral issues.
It is so easy to fool people into thinking they are going to make a lot of money on fracking. The only ones getting rich are the CEOs, the attorneys and the large landowners. The landowners’ land will never be the same.
Well, given what I know about people, I will always believe TxSharon over someone like “here” above. The GasHoles will always try to convince you that night is day–and vice versa, if that will put more money in their pockets!
Yes, it’s within legal rights to buy up the base property here for other use. But, saying “…it provides a platform for those hoping to shut down natural gas development, of course” is a bit of a stretch. Especially when fracking is going on point blank to schools & hospitals.
How many times have frackers been unable versus be able to get mineral rights they wanted?
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How about another side of the story just for fun.
http://eidmarcellus.org/marcellus-shale/property-rights-where-do-we-draw-the-line/7918/#more-7918
The other side of the story from Energy In Depth? BWAHahahahahahaha! That is the same outfit that has a picture of me on their website claiming I am the “orchestrator” of the make believe conspiracy against Range Resources. Nobody, and I mean NOBODY, pays any attention to what they say.
But, hey, thanks for the comment.
Where do you think the other side of the story is going to come from? The media?
The article seemed to be pretty informative to me, and included facts that materially change the situation in comparison to the one-sided light that you cast it in.
Since you didn’t address any part of the article, I’ll post an excerpt from it for your opinion.
“So, where do we draw the line? Should this landowner have been required to continue to spend money to maintain a mobile home park when the landowner had no longer desire to continue the business? Especially when public policy is to move families to higher ground anyway to avoid damages and losses that come with living in a floodplain?”
Be careful of the “facts” on the IED website. They play awfully loose with the “facts” to suit their purpose. That’s why no one much pays any attention to them and why they are a joke.
Pot calls the kettle black.
@here
You have a business interest in this trailer park. You know it. I know it. But, I’m sure you are impartial and report the “facts” accurately.
No relation whatsoever, just a practical approach based all of the facts that isn’t laden emotion and hidden (albeit not very well) agenda against the industry.
Am I happy that those people are being displaced? Of course not. Do I look at all of the facts surrounding the displacement instead of blindly focusing on a narrow objective? Yes. Please let me know if I’m missing any material facts directly relating to this case and this case only. I’m not interested in hearing your general opinion of the industry, as I already know what it is.
Sorry for all the typo’s in there.
“It’s hard to get a man to understand something when his paycheck depends on him not understanding.”
Upton Sinclair
I thought for sure you’d mention the fact that each owner is only being offered $2,500 to relocate, but I guess it’s easier to effectively end all conversation and throw your best “gotcha” at me by quoting Upton Sinclair. I guess that about covers it.
Thank you TXSharon for highlighting my video on the Riverdale Mobile Home Park. Keep up the good fight as I will too.
Scott Cannon
My point is you should not be attacking fracking, because Aqua is within their legal right to do what they are doing. You should push for legislation which forces mobile home parks to give more advance notice to home owners, and you should consider the fact that they live in a flood plain in an industrially zoned area.
But it’s all to further an anti-drilling agenda I’m afraid (which is why you paint Aqua as the bad guy).
“The Riverdale Mobile Home Park area has been designated as a zone of extraction. Get out of our way!”
What if any other industrial project would have come through there and forced home owners to leave? Would this be posted on your blog? The area IS zoned for industry.
Drilling should never happen in a flood plain. That’s just insane with all the evidence of frequent spills, lack of regulation, and shoddy operations.
If the industry wanted to create goodwill–which they talk about often but that talk is cheap–they should step up and relocate those families. $2400 won’t cut it.
How many lives do you think this industry can destroy and get away with it?
I don’t blog about other industries. I blog about the fracking industry.
Lots of drilling happens in flood plains.
It’s funny as hell.
Especially when they build an 18 tank farm on one. You know, one that floods to the lakes, that serves up water to your taps.
That’s just funny, funny.
Ignorance, is just that, Ignorance.
Get educated and talk to those who are hurt by what’s is so obviously wrong with horizontal hydraulic fracturing.
IF THE COUNTY DOESN’T WANT A MOBILE HOME PARK IN A FLOOD ZONE, WHY CAN THEY ISSUE A PERMIT FOR HUGE WATER PUMPS ON THE LAND. WHEN AND IF THIS LAND WERE TO FLOOD LIKE IT DID BACK IN 1972, IT WILL WIPE OUT THE PUMP STATIONS AND WASH THEM DOWN THE RIVER. NO DIFFERENT THAN A MOBILE HOME WASHING DOWN THE RIVER.
It doesn’t look to me like Aqua will be doing any drilling on the flood plain.
Again, you place the blame squarely on the industry. This mobile home park owner decided to set up shop in an area zoned for industry. These people decided to move into the mobile home park located in an area zoned for industry. Did the mobile home park owner disclose the fact that the area is zoned for industry to the potential mobile home owners? Should they be required to if they are not already? That is an entirely different debate. If the mobile home owners knew that the area was zoned for industry before they moved in, they did so at their own risk, and the industry that just happened to move in was associated with unconventional oil and gas drilling, which is why it landed on your blog.
The anonymous person posting the pro gas comments is someone from Dimock Proud, a group of land owners trying to get Cabot Oil and Gas to start drilling again in a 9 square mile radius in Dimock, PA that was shut down by the DEP. They blame the family’s suing Cabot for their “loss of income”. This Riverdale Park situation is not a legal issue, it is a moral issue. The company has a moral obligation to these people to give them a fair compensation for their moving costs. After all, the water they are taking from the Susquehanna River and selling for a profit belongs to all of us.
Thank you for explaining. So much about fracking boils down to moral issues.
It is so easy to fool people into thinking they are going to make a lot of money on fracking. The only ones getting rich are the CEOs, the attorneys and the large landowners. The landowners’ land will never be the same.
Well, given what I know about people, I will always believe TxSharon over someone like “here” above. The GasHoles will always try to convince you that night is day–and vice versa, if that will put more money in their pockets!
Yes, it’s within legal rights to buy up the base property here for other use. But, saying “…it provides a platform for those hoping to shut down natural gas development, of course” is a bit of a stretch. Especially when fracking is going on point blank to schools & hospitals.
How many times have frackers been unable versus be able to get mineral rights they wanted?
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