How About We Very Calmly Count the Failures on Ebola So Far? Calm Enough For You?

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The absolute worst public image you can have is being dead.

There has been much more talk in Dallas the last few days about the dangers of panic than about the dangers of Ebola. In the meantime if we are paying attention we must notice by now that our vaunted Western industrialized defenses against contagion are riddled with holes.

We know that the Dallas-area hospital screening protocol for identifying emergency room patients recently arrived from an Ebola hot-zone failed when Thomas Eric Duncan showed up at the hospital on September 26. But incredibly a full week later we still don't know why the system failed, beyond mumbled explanations about laptop record-keeping systems not talking to each other, the dog-ate-my-homework excuse of the digital era.

Maybe the digits are to blame. But we also know that Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital, where the failure occurred, has a history of pushing emergency room show-ups out the door without adequate treatment in violation of federal regulations and law. Why hasn't the mayor or the governor launched a law enforcement investigation with badges and subpoena power to run this question to ground?

If the screening system at Presbyterian failed because of computers, and we know that, great, then we need to go to every hospital in the region and inspect their digital record-keeping systems to make sure this same thing won't happen the next time an Ebola patient walks in. If the failure was less accidental, more intentional, then officials should pursue the kind of prosecution that would put the fear of God in the next hospital tempted to dump an expensive bad-news-story patient.

We know that the management of the local hot zone where Duncan was living, The Ivy Apartments on Fair Oaks in the crowded Five Points neighborhood, was slow and haphazard almost beyond belief. Duncan was confirmed to have Ebola on the afternoon of September 30. Not until 24 hours later did the county officials inform residents of the apartment complex that they were in danger, and even then the notification was by fliers printed in English in an immigrant community where many people do not speak or read English. A day later residents were still bringing the fliers out to the scrum of reporters at the gate pleading with them to explain what the fliers meant.

We know that the management of the super-hot-zone, the specific apartment where Duncan was living it the complex, has been a bungled disaster. Residents of that apartment were ordered not to leave it, but somehow they did, until police were called.

At that point they were confined inside the uncleaned apartment with bags of bed linens soiled by the body fluids of Duncan when he was infectious. Local officials have continued to misrepresent the mechanisms of contagion, offering the public an AIDS-like scenario in which contagion occurs only through intimate physical contact. The CDC's own circulars stipulate that Ebola virus can survive on surfaces outside the body. Their contagious properties on those surfaces are not known, but CDC bulletins suggest those surfaces should be treated as dangerous.

See also: Even the CDC Isn't Totally Sold on its Own Proclamations on How Ebola Is Transmitted

What this means is that the adults inside that apartment were jailed inside a hot zone at risk of infection until the county finally bumbled its way to getting the apartment decontaminated.

We know that the mechanisms employed by the school district to protect students from exposure are an abject failure so far. Yesterday an exposed student -- supposedly at home in isolation -- showed up at school, was admitted and spent an unknown amount of time there before anyone figured out the child was a possible carrier.

Every company, building and institution of any size in Dallas has some protocol for preventing entry by persons thought to be dangerous, usually involving photo identification of the person and specific instructions to security personnel and management. Whatever system the school district has -- there must be one -- is a failure.

What we need more than calm is action. Local officials need to dig hard into what happened at Presbyterian and take much more aggressive measures than they have so far to ensure it doesn't happen again. We already know that leaving this up to the self-policing of hospitals doesn't work.

We don't know yet if Thomas Duncan tricked his way into the United States to avoid dying unattended on the floor of a hospital in Monrovia. If he did, it's a trick you or I might try in his shoes. Even if he did not sneak in deliberately, if his arrival here was innocent, we should assume that others will follow him here who are not innocent, and our awareness of that should heighten our vigilance.

Local officials need to develop a much better and faster strategy for confining a hot zone, one that assumes Ebola is most likely to show up first among immigrants living in crowded conditions who may not speak or read English.

Emergency housing should be available so that people not yet exposed can be relocated. One assumes that notification, relocation, isolation and decontamination all would have been achieved much more quickly and efficiently had the people exposed been affluent college students rather than poor immigrants.

The schools need to get way faster and smarter about protecting children in classrooms.

The string of failures in Dallas that began at Presbyterian Hospital a week ago has only grown. In the meantime, we see a great deal of effort and time expended on television appearances by local officials offering blandishments to the community about the need to avoid panic.

Panic is not a good thing, but generally speaking people do not die of panic. Panic is bad for business, elections and public image. But people die of Ebola. In a city where the leadership is often obsessed with image, perhaps we need to remind them that the worst image you can have and the last one is death.

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noblefurrtexas
noblefurrtexas topcommenter

I found this beyond interesting, and it unquestionably confirms what many people suspected: 


Top Ebola Virologist: Liberia's Airport Checks 'Useless' and a 'Disaster'


"Virologist Heinz Feldmann, who has studied Ebola for 20 years and is currently working on one of several experimental vaccines for the virus, warned in a September interview that the airport was the place in Monrovia where he felt the most unsafe, and that screening for Ebola at the airport was a "disaster."

"In an interview with Science Magazine in September, Feldmann, who had recently returned from three weeks in Monrovia, explains that the front lines in west Africa against the Ebola virus are by far the most dangerous; those working for organizations like Doctors Without Borders live under the constant threat of contracting the virus. Feldmann notes that he himself did not feel unsafe working in Liberia because his work was academic, and thus enclosed with the virus, rather than the patients:

"Patients are like virus factories producing up to a hundred million virus particles per milliliter of blood, and a patient is unpredictable; a patient could cough, could spit at you, vomit on you, or even become aggressive and attack you. So these people really have the highest risk and have the highest burden."

"Feldmann confesses that the place at which he felt the least safe was the airport, calling it the place of "highest risk." For example, screening occurs in areas confined enough that those being screened are likely to come into contact with the virus should an Ebola patient be among them. Furthermore, screeners are so poorly trained that they often cannot even properly measure temperature.

"They are checking your temperature three times before you get into the airport, but if you look at the people that do this kind of work, they don't really know how to use the devices," Feldmann explains. "They are writing down temperatures of 32°C, which everybody should know is impossible for a living person." Feldmann calls for major overhauls in the system, as he asserts that the checks are "completely useless" and "just a disaster."

Full Story: http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2014/10/03/Top-Ebola-Virologist-Liberia-s-Airport-Checks-Useless-a-Disaster-Due-to-Lack-of-Training


It's all well and good for the CDC Director to claim we have to solve this in Liberia.  But, Job One is to seal off Liberia until adequate quarantine is in place for ALL transportation - including rail, water, air, vehicle, etc. .

texasdem1
texasdem1

Seems incredible that dallas county health and govt. officials walked into that hot zone apartment without any protective clothing.  I could not believe my eyes watching the news reports. What were/are they thinking? If they make a mistake, shouldn't it be on the side of caution? Whats wrong with an abundance of caution in this kind of a situation? Oops I forgot …this is Dallas... which may need to be called stupidville after this incredible bungling of the first U.S. ebola case.  

Presby hospital needs to be shut down after this one. sorry…lots of good people work there, but it's too unforgivable the level of the errors... they screwed up and the domino effect of this screw up may very well be one for the history books. I feel so sorry for the ambulance crew that tended to Duncan. And guessing, if things go like they have been, that they are only being monitored and not quarantined like they should be. They had to have been in contact with the fluids. And the next people in the ambulances (victims) should be quarantined too. Isn't this just common sense?

I think we all can safely say Duncan lied his way out of Liberia to get to better care.  He knew he had probably touched fluids from the Ebola victim. He knew it. He knew he had only a matter of days to get on that plane before his symptoms were noticeable. 

It's all incredible. 

riconnel8
riconnel8

"We don't know yet if Thomas Duncan tricked his way into the United States to avoid dying unattended on the floor of a hospital in Monrovia. If he did, it's a trick you or I might try in his shoes."

Thank you Jim for saying this.

TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

2005 leadership: “push this [Bush] administration to take action needed to prevent a catastrophe [flu] the likes of which we have not seen during our lifetimes.”

2014 leadership: "We’ve been taking the necessary precautions, including working with countries in West Africa to increase screening at airports so that someone with the virus doesn’t get on a plane for the United States."

That didn't work, but there's no reason to believe anyone else desperate to get to the US would lie, is there?

noblefurrtexas
noblefurrtexas topcommenter

One of the most consequential failures in this series of events is medical professionals downplaying the seriousness of Ebola to prevent panic.  But, what they are preventing is the public and professionals taking this seriously and understanding how to identify the disease and what to do if you - or someone close to you - shows symptoms. 


I am surprised Presbyterian, or least Dallas County, haven't brought in experts in public health to help with training people to "trace" possible cases or exposed persons, prophylaxis methods that work, and making effective use of the media to get a consistent message out to professionals as well as ordinary people. 


As far as I know, Dallas doesn't really have a good interim isolation facility.  Hotels and motels are expensive, and there is the problem of those placed there not knowing what to do. 


Voluntary isolation, such as that used in this case, is not effective.  And, this is an area where mistakes can be disastrous and deadly. That's why court-ordered quarantines need to be generated and enforced. 


I agree that it's great to keep people calm.  But, there's a great deal about an Ebola pandemic from mistakes that is not very calming!  This needs to be taken very seriously.

elduacdivad
elduacdivad

Nobody else sick within the first few days of a three week incubation period. Quarantined people arriving at school, and...just life in an 'international city'.


Nothing to see here folks--move along. Hey looklooklook--naked celebrities on the interweds.





Anonamouse
Anonamouse

Bravo, Jim.

That said, watch "Outbreak" (not "Contagion", although it's good too) to see where Ebola "containment" may eventually lead.

dallasboiler
dallasboiler

As disappointing as the local response has been, I am more dismayed by the federal government's failure to prevent this individual's entry into the U.S. and their pre-disposal to take a backseat to local authorities who are clearly inadequately prepared for this.


An admissions nurse at Presby should not be the first line of defense in the fight to prevent a deadly disease like ebola from arriving to the U.S.  This gentleman should have never been allowed into the country without being tested or quarantined.  It's not like he snuck across the border.  He flew from Liberia from Belgium, and from Belgium to the U.S.  It's astounding to me that every passenger originating from Guinea, Liberia or Sierra Leone isn't tested for ebola upon entry to the U.S.  Even if they're allowed out of customs and asymptomatic, that would give authorities the ability to track the individual and isolate him/her before he/she shows symptoms and becomes contagious to the rest of us.


People loosely throw around terms like "Katrina moment", and a lack of response to this very serious threat could easily become President Obama's Katrina moment.  There is an active outbreak going on in Guinea, Liberia and Sierra Leone; and this case suggests that little - if any - protections are in place for U.S. citizens (other than our geographic separation from the African continent).  This is an issue of national defense more important than combating ISIS/ISIL or keeping Central American refugee children from crossing our borders.  Meanwhile, the reaction from Washington and Atlanta seems to be:  a) don't worry ... it's not that contagious and b) okay, Dallas, looks like you guys are on top of things ... just let us know if you need something.  By the time any local agencies ask for help, it will be too late and this disease could be out of control.


If we're holding feet to the fire, let's not forget those feet which are most responsible for ensuring our safety from these pathogens.

tlcrealty.ron
tlcrealty.ron

If you like your Ebola you can keep your Ebola.

noblefurrtexas
noblefurrtexas topcommenter

@riconnel8 Excuse me.  This is a lie.  It was Obama who scrubbed President Bush's more stringent public health protections which, by the way, would have prevented the current active case from entering the U.S. 


Once again, the little S.O.B. is trying to lay the blame for his ineptitude and worsening stupidity on Republicans.  The guy is all about politics and campaign money, and not about protecting America and Americans.


Oh yeah; he's also about golf, expensive taxpayer paid vacations, and trying to be famous. 


I assure him he will be famous for decades for what he has done to the U.S. and to our economy.

noblefurrtexas
noblefurrtexas topcommenter

@bvckvs Apparently, the reaction in Liberia to Mr. Duncan having possibly lied at airport public health screening has generated their considering prosecution.  Our own DA is also considering prosecution. 


I hate learning about people being relieved of their jobs over this, but - in all honesty - this is the result of having conflicting information about the disease and patients coming from public health and medical sources. 


If I were king, I'd immediately set up an Ebola information web site, including a media sourcing section, and establish an Ebola hotline.  I understand about not wanting people to panic, but as a result of trying to manage the psychology of the thing, they're not being honest about it.  That's even more dangerous.

noblefurrtexas
noblefurrtexas topcommenter

@texasdem1You're exactly right about the hazmat suits.  The discards and surfaces in the squalid apartment were confirmed to have been involved with a positive case of Ebola. That presents a danger to those needed most to clean up after an active case. 


In military public health, there is a discipline to be effective and identifying and eradicating communicable diseases and their triggers for cross-contamination. 

But, one of the most important parts of that is protecting the people needed most to control the disease and prevent its spread. 

You and I both know why these people entered that dwelling without protection.  But, it confirms what I have said about the Drector of Dallas County Health, and certainly the political hack in the CDC. 



noblefurrtexas
noblefurrtexas topcommenter

@riconnel8 WE now know that he DID lie about his exposure to someone with Ebola, and we know his government -- and ours -- are considering criminal charges against him. 

People from Liberia already have enough of a bad reputation without adding risking potentially hundreds - if not thousands - of lives because of his own selfish desires. 

If he lives, I think he should be tried and sent to prison.  

So much for honesty in Liberia. 

noblefurrtexas
noblefurrtexas topcommenter

@riconnel8 While I appreciate the sympathy for Mr. Duncan's situation, lying about a public health matter translates into possibly committing a crime, and certainly expressing the personal ethics where that person is willing to risk the lives of millions of people for his own selfish benefit. 


I don't see that as noble, honest, or understandable.  And, if he DID lie to questions in a public health screening anywhere, he crossed a very important line in personal ethics and values. 


Already, he has exposed over 100 people to a deadly or debilitating communicable disease. That, in and of itself, is a potential disaster. 


This is why court-ordered quarantines are absolutely necessary.

noblefurrtexas
noblefurrtexas topcommenter

@bvckvs Don't confuse plain blind luck with good management.  The screw-ups on this series of events have been rather scary when you consider the actual consequences from making these kinds of mistakes.

JimSX
JimSX topcommenter

Yesterday you were going to offer me some citations for your claim that over-aggressive press coverage of Ebola had caused a dramatic falloff in church attendance. Still workin' on that are we?

riconnel8
riconnel8

@noblefurrtexas by all means tell me exactly which stringent public health care protections by Bush were scrubbed by Obama.  I'm waiting......

JimSX
JimSX topcommenter

@noblefurrtexas @riconnel8 I agree. Far from noble, if he did it, it's morally horrendous. But put me in the same shoes and maybe give me some mission in life that I feel I must accomplish before I die, I can't promise you I might not try a similar trick. My point is that we should assume that more people facing sure death in Africa will try to get here, because this is where they bring the white doctors who are sick, so here must be the place where you might live. Who cares why they do it? All we have to know is that they will, more and more of them, and we will have to deal with that threat,

JimSX
JimSX topcommenter

@bvckvs Let me know when you're able to come up with that evidence to support your claim that Ebola coverage is causing a fall-off in  church attendance. Really looking forward to that important story.

riconnel8
riconnel8

@bvckvs Rather than all the hate I see directed towards Mr. Duncan for coming to the U.S. I wanted to thank Jim for putting out the scenario of what any one of us would have probably done. 

noblefurrtexas
noblefurrtexas topcommenter

@JimSX Jim, Another problem is that Ebola symptoms substantially  mimic Flu symptoms, and we're in the Flu season right now.  Can you imagine what the emergency rooms will look like when Flu patients or their family members show up scared to death about having Ebola!?!

Since you're in the communications business, and your tabloids are complimentary, that seems to me to be a perfect place for articles such as what people need to know about Ebola, how one determines whether they have the Flu or Ebola symptoms, what to do if someone close to you contracts Ebola, etc. 

One of the most effective weapons in good public health in a potential crisis is plenty of accurate and informative facts instead of assurances everything is just fine.  We don't need any more "No, Mrs. Astor, not to worry; this ship is unsinkable" lectures. 



noblefurrtexas
noblefurrtexas topcommenter

@riconnel8 @noblefurrtexas What?  No snappy come back after I posted the article proving what I said? 

Once again, we see what a screwup he is. 

Obama has a habit of asking for outrageous sums of money for a project without say how he'll spend the money - like a little boy wanting more allowance, but who won't justify it to his parents. 

Not ALL of the money should go to Obama as a slush fund.  It also needs to go to relevant agencies and departments.  But, Obama wants to be the source of these fund as he doles them out, and not Congress. 

Welcome to America. 



noblefurrtexas
noblefurrtexas topcommenter

@riconnel8 @noblefurrtexas While you're waiting, why not read about it yourself.  It's a Christian Science Monitor story that was picked up by Fox Network. 


http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/10/03/president-ebola-in-2010-obama-administration-scrapped-cdc-quarantine/

You may not agree, but my opinion of Obama in almost all ways continues to plummet, and it wasn't very high to begin with. 


The guy is a major screwup who is a liar, shiftless, lazy, uniformed, woefully inexperienced, and all about politics (and golf) instead of leading from the front like all other heads-of-state and respected leaders. 


This dishonest adolescent will easily go down in history as our worst president, even replacing Carter for the title.

noblefurrtexas
noblefurrtexas topcommenter

@DonkeyHotay @noblefurrtexas I'm sorry, I didn't know you were on the thread.  I'll make it easier for you with short words: 


"If it was up to me, I would set up a large Ebola information web site, and have sufficient 800-number circuits to answer questions."


Clearly, I wouldn't be interested in being a king, and am most unlikely to be drafted by some foreign monarchy. 


Any questions?

noblefurrtexas
noblefurrtexas topcommenter

@mavdog @noblefurrtexas Most people don't know to go to the CDC for information, and their current information has contained a large number of inaccuracies.  How about ebolainfo.com?

noblefurrtexas
noblefurrtexas topcommenter

@riconnel8 @noblefurrtexas I wouldn't risk, potentially, hundreds or thousands of lives to save my own.  But, having served in the military in a combat zone, I probably have different values than some people.

noblefurrtexas
noblefurrtexas topcommenter

@JimSX @noblefurrtexas @riconnel8 Apparently, they are considering prosecuting Mr. Duncan in Monrovia - according to The Christian Science Monitor (of all sources) - for lying on the airport form. And, our own DA says he's considering prosecution.

JimSX
JimSX topcommenter

@bvckvs

Writing advice for you: next time, 1) comment first, 2) then drink.

noblefurrtexas
noblefurrtexas topcommenter

@bvckvs @JimSX Public Health precautions are NOT about "feelings".  They are about protection and prophylaxis.


Nobody with any senses CARES how they feel.  What is important is teaching prevention, and immediately isolating potential cases. 


This isn't rocket science, but we need to keep the political correctness Bull O-U-T to be effective.

riconnel8
riconnel8

@noblefurrtexas OMG...I can see you are frothing at the mouth over this. I have 4 posts from you in my email.


George W. had in place a three (3) day involuntary quarantine.

Now here's the facts and I'm afraid they don't fit into your agenda: 


The first Ebola patient arrived in the U.S. on Sept. 20th.


The first Ebola patient didn't start showing signs until Sept. 24. 


So there's the facts and the fact of it is....it wouldn't have mattered. 


Should we have some kind of safe guard in place?  Yes.  But it appears the quarantine would need to be longer than 3 days.

mavdog
mavdog topcommenter

@noblefurrtexas

"most people"?

they would put "ebola" into google and hit enter.

the point is the info you wanted to see on a web site is already on a web site.

noblefurrtexas
noblefurrtexas topcommenter

@bvckvs He knew.  And, he purposefully lied on the public heath forms at the airport.  That's why the Liberian government is thinking about prosecuting him.

anon-mouse
anon-mouse

@JimSX It doesn't matter what you think of bvckvs, he did bring up a legit point.  The issue of the Doc & HHS Director are valid points. Why not respond with an answer in place of a snarky reply?    

JimSX
JimSX topcommenter

@bvckvs @JimSX

So, nothing yet on your church attendance story? Keep at it. Some of these things take time.

noblefurrtexas
noblefurrtexas topcommenter

@riconnel8 @noblefurrtexas That was before the Ebola scare, and 72 hours is generally enough time for most communicable diseases to show up, or at least symptom of illness appear. 


With a three-day quarantine in place, it wouldn't have taken anything to EXTEND the quarantine period. 

noblefurrtexas
noblefurrtexas topcommenter

@JimSX @bvckvs I don't know about you, but I would expect State Fair of Texas attendance to be more impacted than Church/Synagogue attendance.

Many people turn to religion for solace, comfort, and protection.   So, some churches and synagogues might expect MORE people to show up. 



riconnel8
riconnel8

@noblefurrtexas @riconnel8 Apparently 72 hours isn't when all communicable disease starts to show symptoms.  Duncan was in Dallas 4 days before he showed signs. The Bush 3 day quarantine would NOT have helped.


And by the way.....the reason we don't have a "top doc" or a Surgeon General is because of the .....GOP.  Go talk to them and ask THEM why they want to put Americans at risk.


How's that "less gubment" working for you???

PlanoDave
PlanoDave

@bvckvs 

"I'd be curious to see how many show up tomorrow morning in surgical masks."

Why would they do that?  Are they expecting you to be present?

noblefurrtexas
noblefurrtexas topcommenter

@bvckvs @noblefurrtexas @JimSX Interesting enough, I'm pretty good friends with a CVS pharmacist.  She said Friday that while her store had noticed a slight increase in requests for surgica masks, others had seen even more of a spike.


I wouldn't walk into an emergency room without one and blue examination gloves.  But, you also need goggles since the spray from coughing, sneezing, etc., can get near or into your eyes, and infect you quite efficiently.

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