Clay Jenkins and Inmate Groups Push Dallas County to Stop Profiting from Jail Phone Calls

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Andreas Praefcke
Dallas County Jail
They successfully fought contract provisions that would have banned in-person visits at the Dallas County jail while the county made money from new video visits. Now exonerated inmates, prison rights advocates and County Judge Clay Jenkins aim to make the county among the first in the nation to stop profiting off phone calls between jail inmates and their families.

See also: Dallas County Will Not Ban In-Person Visits for Inmates After All

About $3 million in the county's recently approved budget stands to come from surcharges applied to phone calls made to and from the jail, but Jenkins wants to change course and find the money elsewhere.

"What you've got is an irreconcilable conflict between our desire to make money off these poor families so we can balance our budget and our duty to lower crime and treat people fairly," Jenkins says.

Each phone call made from the Dallas County Jail costs $3 and is limited to about 15 minutes. If the county stops imposing surcharges on calls, the same 15 minute call could cost as little as $.47.

"When people are in jail, communication with their family is one of the best ways to encourage them to take action so they won't be back in jail again and to have their best outcome after they're out of jail," Jenkins says.

As states like California and New York have phased out phone commissions at state prisons, county jails have clung to the fees, often in order to seek that inmates pay their own way as much as possible while in jail. This is despite the fact that 73 percent of the inmates in Dallas County Jail have not been convicted of a crime. They are often, Jenkins says, people who simply can't afford to bail out while awaiting trial.

Peter Wagner, the director of the Prison Policy Initiative, says that Dallas will be the third county he knows of that's ditched surcharges -- after San Francisco County in California and Dane County in Wisconsin. Doing so would put Dallas County on the right side of history as the Federal Communications Commission considers banning the surcharges entirely, Wagner says. (PPI has done extensive research on the topic , but getting explicit numbers on county budgets is exceedingly difficult, Wagner says.)

"You give up the surcharge, what do you get in exchange? You keep families together. You increase the volume of calls, which keeps families together. You make it more likely that people succeed when they get out. For kids whose parents are incarcerated, the damage of incarceration is minimized," Wagner says.

Cheaper phone calls reduce long-term expenses for county social services, because families don't incur tremendous costs just to keep in touch.

Texas CURE, a local prison rights group, has been instrumental to the fight, sending multiple speakers to county commissioners meetings and organizing on social media.

"Texas CURE believes that communication between families and incarcerated loved ones is key," Josh Gravens, the group's chairman, says. "We're at the precipice where we can decide if we are going to continue to justify commissions because of the budget."

The county budget, according to Jenkins and Gravens, should not be built on the backs of people like Christopher Scott and his family.

"One time, my [monthly] bill was like $525 dollars," says Scott, a Dallas County man wrongly convicted of murder in 1997. Scott, who was released in 2009 and declared innocent by the Texas Court of Criminal Appeals in 2010, says he and his family had no choice but to continue paying the bills, no matter how high, because he had to stay in touch with the world and continue his legal fight.

"When your facing a charge, and you're in jail," Scott says, "there's a difference between you saying you did it and you saying you're not guilty. Me being not guilty of this crime, I was always trying to reach out to my attorney.We know as African Americans and the things that we go through with the judicial system, we know one thing for sure: The streets talk, the streets talk, so we want to be in constant contact with people that are on the streets to get clarification about how this mix-up happened. You want to know because you're in there for a crime you didn't commit."

Scott made four or five phone calls a day, to talk to his kids when the got home from school, to talk to them again before they went to bed, to talk to his lawyer and to talk to his then fiancee. Scott also called his mother multiple times each week.

"No matter what they thought [about the cost of the calls] or what I thought, it [making the calls] was a must," he says. "The phone was a lifeline. The phone and visitation, those are the most important things in jail or in prison. If we don't have them, we don't have access to society."

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rufuslevin
rufuslevin

let's see...we PAY for their food, clothes, AC and Heat, medical treatment, entertainment and exercise facilities....and charging for phones is PROFIT MAKING....Jenkins, a hayseed lawyer type...has no clue about Business Economics...No wonder he works well for JWP and associates.

whocareswhatithink
whocareswhatithink

A) Where would we get the money from then? 

"but Jenkins wants to change course and find the money elsewhere."


trekatch
trekatch

A one minute 45 second phone call from the Parker County Jail cost a little over $13.  Seriously!  Inmates need to be able to contact family members, not to mention their attorney's, in order to communicate.  If they feel like they have no one on the outside pulling for them, they are not likely to do well in jail.  Yes being in jail it punishment for doing something wrong (or being innocent, poor and unable to afford bail and waiting for trial), but I would be willing to be that most inmates would do much better knowing they have friends and family supporting them and caring about them and therefore have better success once they are released.  Can you imagine having a son or daughter in jail and not being able to even talk to them on the phone because you have to choose between toliet paper or money for the phone charges?  These are human beings, treat them as such!

dfw_maverick
dfw_maverick

Can't we just cover the revenue loss with this new approach by taking the money from Craig Watkins slush fund?

chrisl
chrisl

Try $10 for a 10 minute phone in Travis County. And no in person visitations either. 

MattL11
MattL11

$3 for a 15-minute phone call? Who is running this shit, the people who sell beer at Jerryworld? 

lzippitydoo
lzippitydoo

Actually - if Clay Jenkins is against something - I'm for it ! Who cares about what inmates think. We should take full advantage of these criminals who are not in the slammer because they are upstanding citizens! Let's concentrate on issues that matter!!

bvckvs
bvckvs topcommenter

Judge Jenkins is seriously understating what it costs taxpayers to provide phone services to inmates.  He's not counting one cent of overhead.

TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

Jenkins wants to change course and find the money elsewhere.

Try looking behind the cushions on the couches of Dallas taxpayers.

Charlie
Charlie

@rufuslevin We also determined that they be locked up in the first place.  If the State is going to use its power to take someone's freedom, they had better be able to pay for it.  That simple.  The State is made up of the People and maintains a responsibility to all People, even those convicted of a crime.  Even the convicted have rights and that simple fact is what made(notice past tense) us better than everyone else.  Now its all about retribution and profit and we as a nation are paying the price for it.  We are being bankrupted by our addiction to incarceration and by forcing the State to pay for the penalties it deems should be meted out, it will drastically reduce the injustices in the system.  Also by removing the profit motive, you reduce the incentive to railroad innocents into prison because they represent a "head" to charge for a bed.  So, in response, no.  Our prisons and jails should NOT be profit generating machines.

rufuslevin
rufuslevin

@trekatch Don't do the crime...no problem....CRIME SHOULD NOT PAY?  EXCEPT FOR THE PHONE, then CRIMINALS should pay.

bvckvs
bvckvs topcommenter

@trekatch 

Actually, they do not "need" to contact family members - they WANT to contact family members.  The only one they NEED to talk to is their lawyer when they first arrive - and that call is free.

And since inmates have a long history of abusing their phone rights, it's reasonable to put a great big financial obstacle between them, and their proven desire to break the law.

bvckvs
bvckvs topcommenter

@chrisl  It's a jail, not a social club.

TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

@chrisl

Well, they're a lot more liberal down there.

Lorlee
Lorlee

@lzippitydoo  And you did read that for 73% of those incarcerated have not been convicted of a crime.  I guess innocent until proven guilty has no meaning for you.

rufuslevin
rufuslevin

@bvckvs You are confused if you think Jenkins has any sense at all.

trekatch
trekatch

@rufuslevin @trekatch So if you get arrested and put in jail you are guilty?  There is no such thing as an innocent person being arrested?  Really?  You might want to look at the Dallas wrongful conviction rate before you get up on that soapbox again.

andypandy
andypandy

@bvckvs @trekatch  Many of these people have been accused of a crime and cannot afford bail--they have not been convicted, as such there is no "proven desire to break any law.". Further they do need to contact family members. 

rufuslevin
rufuslevin

@Lorlee @lzippitydoo Yep, most are just picked up, hauled in so the police can get some victims to learn the correct way to pistol whip a citizen and to beat up on minorities and poor hos and pimps....sure...innocent is not a civil right life a fair trial is a civil right.  Innocent rarely gets someone arrested.

bvckvs
bvckvs topcommenter

@andypandy @bvckvs @trekatch 

Are you HONESLTY not aware of the problem with inmates using jailhouse phones to commit crimes - like ordering gang hits and stalking ex-lovers?

As for the problem of some inmates not being able to afford bail - that's their own personal problem and taxpayer-sponsored discount services won't help them solve it.
Besides - we impose that bail to keep them from getting out and to ensure that if they do get out, they have some motivation to behave themselves.  For us to then turn around and help them raise the money would be self-defeating.


Lorlee
Lorlee

@rufuslevin @Lorlee I guess you haven't heard of the Innocence Project and all the people they are exonerating -- and that is just the tip of the iceberg.  The numbers are staggering. 

andypandy
andypandy

@bvckvs Forgotten your meds?


This is about Jail and not Prison.  You may want to make yourself aware of the difference before making more asinine comments. 


It costs a hell of a lot less to allow someone a reasonable and affordable phone call or calls so as to secure bail than it does to lock them up and feed them for a week or more.

rufuslevin
rufuslevin

@andypandy @bvckvs well it is cheaper for us all when citizens do not do stuff that gets them arrested maybe....duh....the poor victims of police abuse argument again for flaming liberals.

bvckvs
bvckvs topcommenter

@andypandy @bvckvs 

Here in the US, we don't mind too much spending our money to keep criminals locked up.

I understand that a lot of Libertarian folks, such as yourself, think that we're wrong abut this - but it works for us.

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