George Carlin Gets His 'Way,' Has Final Say With His Former Church

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It took three years, two mayors, and, ultimately, two city blocks, but tomorrow New York City will finally rename part of one of its streets after George Carlin.

And the Catholic Church isn't even complaining. At least, not anymore.

Carlin, the comedian and iconoclast known for his profanity-laced rants skewering, among other things, religion and government, grew up on 121st Street and Broadway in Manhattan's Morningside Heights. A few years after his death in 2008, comedian Kevin Bartini -- who idolized, but did not know, Carlin -- learned that he lived only a few blocks from where Carlin grew up. When he walked over to Carlin's street and located his building, he was shocked to find nothing nearby commemorating the trailblazing comic.

See also: Seven Not-So-Dirty Facts About the Street Soon to be Known as George Carlin Way

"It seems like such a no-brainer, right?" Bartini says. "There was no plaque, no sign, nothing. He's a New York legend. He's a comedy legend. It just didn't seem right."

Bartini, who works as a warmup comic for The Daily Show, says he contacted Carlin's daughter in 2011 and asked if she would mind if he tried to work something out with the city to rename the 500 block of 121st street -- between Broadway and Amsterdam Avenue -- after her father. She agreed, and Bartini got to work.

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Kevin Bartini
"I had no idea what to do, really," he says. "I remember initially naively thinking that I could just pass it along to Jon Stewart and he could just call the city and that would be that. I found out it's a lot more involved."

And then some, as it turned out. In October 2011, Bartini talked to members of Community Board 9, which would ultimately have to approve any proposal to rename the street. They advised him to collect as many signatures as he could. One of the board members also told him that if he could get the blessing of the Corpus Christi Church -- the Roman Catholic parish, which is located on the same block and is where Carlin attended both school and church services -- the measure would sail through. The signatures were easy. The church's blessing, not so much.

Bartini's conversation with Reverend Raymond Rafferty, the longtime pastor at Corpus Christi, was discouraging.

"He chewed me out," Bartini says. "He'd known George as a kid and had a personal grudge against him. [Rafferty] really read me the riot act. He did not want this to happen."

Throughout his career, Carlin famously attacked both organized religion in general and the Catholic Church in particular. He even called out Corpus Christi on his 1972 album, Class Clown.

"The church's argument was that they were trying to protect their students against dirty words," Bartini says. "They didn't want students to see the street sign, wonder who George Carlin was, and look him up and be exposed to the themes and messages he spoke about -- things like questioning authority and the dangers of blind faith. If you're the Catholic Church, those kinds of things are bad for business."

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dracuskaos
dracuskaos

Not only does it cement what a counter culture icon he is, it also shows that George carlins 'way' goes the opposite direction from the church. lol

justt79623
justt79623

The icing on the cake George would have absolutely LOVED would be if a gold statue of him GIVING THE FINGER to the old church and neighborhood where he grew up!


Now THAT would be something to see!

Mathew Ellison
Mathew Ellison

i love him cause he didnt give a fuck what you thought of him and he'll say whatever is on his mind..

Bernie Bollendorf
Bernie Bollendorf

The human race could learn a lot by studying George, we're fucked

Jack Haesly
Jack Haesly

You might think Carlin was crude in his delivery and speech. None the less, he was usually dead right.

Steve
Steve

I love this.  A man who spent his entire life bashing the Catholic Church has a street sign erected in his name and his sheeple rejoice - yet there can be no gratification; there can be no 'last laugh' for George Carlin - in his own beliefs, he has no existence - he is nothing.


It's laughable to consider just how egotistical and prideful mankind has become, and watch them relish in mediocrity such as this; as if it's a huge blow to all the faithful "blind religious". 


A street sign!


The most beautiful churches and cathedrals of the world are so insignificant compared to the glory and splendor of heaven, yet we cherish a street sign erected in memory of a deceased man who has self-proclaimed beliefs that he no longer exists in any manifestation of consciousness.


Bread and Circuses, America.

cjleete
cjleete

I take God and the Christ seriously, but religion is hilarious as hell.

Stephen Conn
Stephen Conn

How about Lenny Bruce st. (since Carlin ripped his whole act).

paulbhicks66
paulbhicks66

the man was not only a comic genius... ...he was a prophet.

William Woodburn
William Woodburn

Had I heard a word about the petition, I would've gladly signed it!

Benjamin Medellin II
Benjamin Medellin II

It would've been great to hear George's opinion on Westboro Baptist Church if he was alive. Maybe he said some stuff about them before he died.

Tim Mace
Tim Mace

George is the way,the truth.etc.

someguy
someguy

@Steve I'm not a religious person, but this is a well-rationed post and I agree with you. This isn't some big middle-finger, this is just honoring a man who meant so much to so many. No reason to take the narrative any further than that. He was a great comedian and a very intelligent man. They are honoring him as such. That's it. 

cheesecakebatmanrobi
cheesecakebatmanrobi

@Steve  I'll pray to Joe Pesci for you...


When it comes to bullshit, big-time, major league bullshit, you have to stand in awe of the all-time champion of false promises and exaggerated claims, religion. No contest. No contest. Religion. Religion easily has the greatest bullshit story ever told. Think about it. Religion has actually convinced people that there's an invisible man living in the sky who watches everything you do, every minute of every day. And the invisible man has a special list of ten things he does not want you to do. And if you do any of these ten things, he has a special place, full of fire and smoke and burning and torture and anguish, where he will send you to live and suffer and burn and choke and scream and cry forever and ever 'til the end of time! But He loves you. He loves you, and He needs money! He always needs money! He's all-powerful, all-perfect, all-knowing, and all-wise, somehow just can't handle money! Religion takes in billions of dollars, they pay no taxes, and they always need a little more. Now, you talk about a good bullshit story. Holy Shit!

sean_r_knight
sean_r_knight

That would be difficult, since Carlin had about 20 times as much material as Bruce. Your argument is like saying the Beatles ripped off Chuck Berry's whole act because they covered Roll Over Beethoven.


mdcrews
mdcrews

Congratulations, you're that one guy right now.

cjleete
cjleete

It would have been funny, but predictable.

cjleete
cjleete

It would have been funny, but predictable.

gwhitneyy2k
gwhitneyy2k

You may be right Tim- but there is that whole Jesus rose from the dead thing. 


 ““Your heart must not be troubled. Believe in God; believe also in Me. In My Father’s house are many dwelling places; if not, I would have told you. I am going away to prepare a place for you. If I go away and prepare a place for you, I will come back and receive you to Myself, so that where I am you may be also. You know the way to where I am going.” “Lord,” Thomas said, “we don’t know where You’re going. How can we know the way?” Jesus told him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me. “If you know Me, you will also know My Father. From now on you do know Him and have seen Him.”” (John 14:1–7, HCSB)  

cjleete
cjleete

sorry for the multiple posts... have some latency issues. Gotta love Cox ...NOT

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