Ebola Fear and Misinformation Is Still Weighing on the People of Vickery Meadow

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Last week, the Ivy was just one of many Vickery Meadow apartment complexes that housed immigrants from all over the world. Now, the complex has an entirely different connection.
Two weeks ago, the Vickery Meadow neighborhood was known as the United Nations of Dallas -- a hodgepodge blending of immigrants and cultures from all over the world. Now, since this country's first Ebola patient was taken ill in the neighborhood, the world associates it with "Patient Zero," the epicenter of the virus outside of Africa. And many Vickery Meadow residents say if they mention to someone at a store or at work that they live in this neighborhood, they may be ostracized.

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Which is why Haj Ali, who moved to the neighborhood from Eritrea in 2012, says it's better just to stay home and stay quiet. "I hear about this Ebola coming from Africa, so I know about that," he says. "But me, I stay in my house. Sometimes people could associate me with the Ebola, because I am from Africa, so you have to be careful with that information."

And local workers confirm their sneaking suspicion of Vickery Meadow residents. One guy who works at a Target just off Park Lane says that although he does not live in the neighborhood, news of the virus makes him uncomfortable around customers from the area.

"I'd want to get away from these people if they came in. It's right here, in the middle school and high school. It's all around. And Presbyterian isn't far from here, that's where the guy died," he says. "If I see somebody is sick, I'll want a mask. And I'd go to a manager and tell them to talk to the person. You've got to be careful. You just have to stay sanitized and just be careful."

Another one of his coworkers agrees. This woman also lives outside Vickery Meadow. "I heard one more person had it. So it's all here now," she says. "You can tell if people are sick. If you come in and you're sick, I'd use hand sanitizer, clean my register, do all kinds of things."

The woman says she isn't necessarily nervous around customers. "It is scary. But I wouldn't turn people away just yet," she says. Still, as with many Dallasites, her understanding of the virus -- and potential customer rejection -- is a bit skewed. "They say with Ebola you can't really get it unless you're sexual together, right?"

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One woman, who did not want to give her name, is a practicing physician and recent immigrant from Pakistan. She lives at the Ivy apartment complex and has been trying to combat the spread of misinformation among Vickery Meadow residents, particularly those in her complex.

"It's all scary and a lot of wrong information is out there. People tend to think whatever they want, so if you tell them that it can be spread at all, they just don't want to be near anybody from here," she says. "We had a meeting here, and one of the people said that someone at the grocery store told them to leave because they live at the Ivy."

It's a common story being echoed by many other residents. "There were some people that have been having problems in the workplace. People have been telling them that they shouldn't come to work because they live here," she says. "And I met someone who thought all of the people over here are being quarantined, and she thought I escaped somehow."

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bvckvs
bvckvs topcommenter

Sam announced that he wanted to be their City Councilman just before this crisis hit.  Since then, he's been silent and inactive.  Wassup wit dat?


noblefurrtexas
noblefurrtexas topcommenter

Jenkins has been proved to be a blithering fool for risking his own health, those he supposedly loves more than his job, and countless hundreds of citizens. 

And, without question, Duncan's lies have not only been responsible for his own death, but he has spread it to others. 

 



Myrna.Minkoff-Katz
Myrna.Minkoff-Katz topcommenter

Why is there so much crime in Vickery Meadow?  I was shocked to see how many times the police have been called out to that neighborhood:



  • Other10/10/14 07:33 AM7100 BLOCK OF GREENVILLE AVE
  • Other10/10/14 06:54 AM  GREENVILLE AVE / WALNUT HILL LN
  • Other10/10/14 06:46 AM8600 BLOCK OF PARK LN
  • Other10/10/14 12:44 AM6100 BLOCK OF PINELAND DR
  • Other10/10/14 12:00 AM6100 BLOCK OF PINELAND DR
  • Other10/08/14 06:55 PM7400 BLOCK OF HOLLY HILL DR
  • Burglary10/08/14 06:53 PM7300 BLOCK OF HOLLY HILL DR APT 1217
  • Other10/08/14 08:25 AM8600 BLOCK OF PARK LN
  • Other10/08/14 06:59 AM7100 BLOCK OF FAIR OAKS AVE
  • Other10/08/14 02:49 AM7100 BLOCK OF HOLLY HILL DR
  • Other10/08/14 12:50 AM8500 BLOCK OF PARK LN
  • Vandalism10/07/14 09:48 PM7400 BLOCK OF FAIR OAKS AVE
  • Other10/07/14 03:31 PM7100 BLOCK OF FAIR OAKS AVE
  • Other10/07/14 09:34 AM7100 BLOCK OF FAIR OAKS AVE APT 1166
  • Other10/07/14 02:18 AM7100 BLOCK OF FAIR OAKS AVE
  • Other10/06/14 02:43 PM7400 BLOCK OF GREENVILLE AVE
  • Other10/06/14 08:43 AM7300 BLOCK OF HOLLY HILL DR
  • Theft10/06/14 05:25 AM7400 BLOCK OF HOLLY HILL DR
  • Other10/06/14 02:14 AM8500 BLOCK OF PARK LN
  • Other10/05/14 07:37 PM8500 BLOCK OF PARK LN
  • Other10/05/14 04:27 PM8500 BLOCK OF PARK LN
  • Other10/05/14 03:27 PM7100 BLOCK OF FAIR OAKS AVE
  • Other10/05/14 03:03 PM7100 BLOCK OF FAIR OAKS AVE
  • Other10/04/14 10:38 PM8500 BLOCK OF PARK LN
  • Theft10/04/14 03:38 PM7200 BLOCK OF HOLLY HILL DR APT 223
  • Other10/04/14 09:15 AM7100 BLOCK OF HOLLY HILL DR
  • Burglary10/03/14 02:42 PM5800 BLOCK OF PINELAND DR
  • Other10/03/14 02:11 PM  GREENVILLE AVE / WALNUT ST
  • Other10/02/14 09:37 PM8500 BLOCK OF PARK LN
  • Other10/02/14 07:09 PM7100 BLOCK OF FAIR OAKS AVE
  • Other10/02/14 03:15 PM7100 BLOCK OF GREENVILLE AVE
  • Other10/01/14 10:09 PM7100 BLOCK OF FAIR OAKS AVE
  • Assault10/01/14 10:02 PM7100 BLOCK OF HOLLY HILL DR
  • Burglary10/01/14 05:40 PM7400 BLOCK OF HOLLY HILL DR
  • Other10/01/14 04:32 PM7200 BLOCK OF FAIR OAKS AVE
  • Burglary10/01/14 05:19 AM8300 BLOCK OF MEADOW RD
  • Other10/01/14 01:47 AM7100 BLOCK OF FAIR OAKS AVE
  • Burglary10/01/14 01:05 AM6000 BLOCK OF PINELAND DR
  • Burglary09/30/14 02:35 PM7500 BLOCK OF HOLLY HILL DR
  • Burglary09/30/14 11:49 AM8500 BLOCK OF PARK LN APT 1710
  • Other09/30/14 11:18 AM7100 BLOCK OF FAIR OAKS AVE
  • Other09/30/14 10:42 AM7200 BLOCK OF FAIR OAKS AVE
  • Other09/29/14 04:38 PM  WALNUT HILL LN / FAIR OAKS AVE
  • Burglary09/28/14 08:02 PM6000 BLOCK OF PINELAND DR
  • Burglary09/28/14 08:02 PM6000 BLOCK OF PINELAND DR APT 1807
  • Theft09/28/14 08:02 PM6000 BLOCK OF PINELAND DR APT 1807
  • Theft09/28/14 08:02 PM6000 BLOCK OF PINELAND DR
  • Burglary09/27/14 11:39 AM8500 BLOCK OF PARK LN
  • Other09/26/14 08:47 PM7300 BLOCK OF HOLLY HILL DR
  • Vandalism09/26/14 08:36 PM7300 BLOCK OF HOLLY HILL DR APT 2122

MMMM
MMMM

How come we're not calling this area the 5 points?  Too hood rat sounding?

huntersteve28
huntersteve28

A lethal combination of fear and stupidity. Witch-hunts coming soon to a neighborhood near you.

ozonelarryb
ozonelarryb

Depriving the populace of its pitchforks and xenophobia will make them restless and maybe prone to actually learning something.

Oh, never mind.

holmantx
holmantx topcommenter

Here!  Let's put this Ebola thingy to bed.

HEY WEST AFRICA!

STOP EATING BUSHMEAT!

It only has a shelf life of a few days.  Fruit Bats are carriers.  They don't die.  You do when you eat the motherfuckers.  But before you do, you fly over here and give it to us!  

So stop that shit.

Otherwise a Republican might get into office and you'll be treated to a not-so-kinder-gentler military.  They'll come to fight Ebola all right.

by carpet-bombing the leper colony.

see?  no problem.

now what's for lunch?

(this would be the typical grunt marine's cure for E-E-E-EK bola problem)

noblefurrtexas
noblefurrtexas topcommenter

One of the best public health weapons - and tools - is lots of accurate information that is truthful, but not necessarily emotionally scarey. 


There is no political correctness in public health.  So, if someone is offended; tough.  Lives are at stake. 


This particular community is not particularly bright, and many don't speak English.  As well, many of them are ritualistic which is a trait brought from Africa and other such countries. 


They need information in their primary languages, and need a trusted source in their own community.  That is neither Jenkins nor the affirmative action hire at Dallas County Health. 


Early detection is one of the best ways to rescue anyone who contracts the disease.  So, knowing the symptoms, and what to do about them, is critical to saving lives.

wcvemail
wcvemail

Helpful trivia: "Haji/Hajji" is an honorific title for a Muslim who has made the pilgrimage to Mecca at least once. This trip is commanded by the Koran for every adult Muslim who is physically and financially capable of undertaking the journey, and can support his family during his absence. The Hajj is the journey itself.

sammerten
sammerten

@bvckvs Vickery Meadow is located in District 13. I'm running for District 9. That's wassup wit dat.

bvckvs
bvckvs topcommenter

@Myrna.Minkoff-Katz 


Many of those calls aren't anywhere near Vickery Meadows at all.  For example, Greenville and Walnut are way up at the border with Garland - nowhere near VIckery Meadows.


That said, there is a serious crime problem in VM - but it's not from the immigrant community.  It's from American street gangs operating out of just two apartment complexes.  It's one of the few places in Dallas where felons are welcome and where they can sell drugs openly on the street corners.

Unfortunately, their current city council representatives (Staubach and Kedane) don't really pay much attention to their concerns.  Only Staubach ever visits, and then only when there's a camera crew.

TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

@Myrna

Obviously because of all the others.

TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

@MMMM

Dead Rabbits are bush meat.

bvckvs
bvckvs topcommenter

@huntersteve28 

That's the  part that worried me most.  The day that hillbillies pelted the complex with rocks was very frightening to the little kids who were playing outside at the time.


TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

@ozonelarryb

Enough about Euro and African nations, what do you suggest Americans do?

I think we should start by neutering our own bush meats, and having a rally.

sconley34
sconley34

@holmantx Who else had Ebola after this Duncan fellow? That's right, NO ONE. It wasn't given to anyone. In fact, if anyone else comes down with ebola from contact with Duncan in the next week, i'll drop everything and go volunteer in West Africa.

noblefurrtexas
noblefurrtexas topcommenter

@holmantx You didn't get the memo?  We no longer bomb Leper colonies.  WE use drones which are impersonal killing devices.

RTGolden1
RTGolden1 topcommenter

@noblefurrtexas "This particular community is not particularly bright, and many don't speak English.  As well, many of them are ritualistic which is a trait brought from Africa and other such countries." 

I'm not sure why you indict the intelligence of the entire community, unless you know them all on a fairly personal basis.  As for them not speaking English, I think you'd be surprised at how well many of them comprehend and are able to use English.  Often, their 'lack' of ability is actually just a ruse to keep English speakers from bothering them.  I use the same tactic at times.


As for many of them being ritualistic, that is not a trait exclusive to the third world.  Many of our idiot christian sects are just as ritualistic and superstitious, with similar idiotic aversions to science and medicine.  This is in spite of their 'superior' American education, and upbringing in an English speaking American culture.

bvckvs
bvckvs topcommenter

@noblefurrtexas 

I take exception to the claim that the Vickery Meadows community is not particularly bright.  I teach a computer science class out there, and it only takes one or two classes before they're off on their own - facebooking, yahooing, googling and exchanging emails and pix with the folks back home.

It takes skill and savvy to escape the ultra-conservative, gun-crazy, anti-government, faith-based folks who are driving them out of their countries.

Many of my students are highly-educated in their home countries - and were working as nurses and engineers and such.   Then, when their countries fell,  they come here and got jobs in housekeeping to put themselves through school a second time.

And they do it all fully aware that there's an army of racist Republicans who hate them for it.

TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

@wcvemail

Unless you're a Muslim from the Ebola Zone.

For them, the journey begins and ends at home.

bvckvs
bvckvs topcommenter

@sammerten @bvckvs 


That goes to one of the problems folks in Vickery Meadows have- Although MOST of their development is in 13, it actually straddles the border of both 13 and 9.  (The part in 9 is the triangle formed by Skillman, Abrams and NW hwy.).  .

It came up again a few months ago when a little girl was run over and killed on that area, which had no street lights or curbs.  Both city council persons, Kedane and Staubach, just turned their backs on the problem,

That said, I think I've got my answer.  Your official position on the matter is that Ebola is an issue that is confined to one City Council District - and of no concern to neighboring districts.

TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

@bvckvs

Those were Palestinians. Hillbillies use guns.

holmantx
holmantx topcommenter

@noblefurrtexas @holmantx

In this singular instance, you may be correct in depriving our shock troops the joy of the kill, given the splashback.

mavdog
mavdog topcommenter

@RTGolden1

Not to mention that Liberia, from which Duncan came, is an English speaking country in Africa that was founded by freed American slaves.

noblefurrtexas
noblefurrtexas topcommenter

@bvckvs @noblefurrtexas They're not being driven out of their countries.  Trust me on that.  The are illegal aliens who came here to get the freebies, the handouts, and the welfare. 


I admire what you're doing; the language barrier has to be tough to overcome.  But, make no mistake about it; these people are here to transfer income from us to them.

TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

@bvckvs

An "educator" citing social media use as a metric for intelligence. Perfect.

wcvemail
wcvemail

@TheRuddSki


The Saudis ably ban possible disease carriers at the Hajj, by prohibiting entry from outbroken countries. That was true this year for Ebola, and in past years for things like the H1N1 flu. Even the home countries act sensibly, such as when Tunisia banned Hajj travel during the H1N1 outbreak. Considering the millions in close proximity, from all over the globe, the Saudis have been effective in curtailing any mass outbreaks. They have no "give me your huddled masses" come-one-come-all practice. 


http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/saudi-arabia-bans-pilgrims-ebola-stricken-countriespilgrims-ebola-stricken-countries-banned-hajj/

bvckvs
bvckvs topcommenter

@Myrna.Minkoff-Katz 

That's not how it works. ZIP codes are about postal services, not development zones (neighborhoods).

If you want to research the subject, try the keyphrase "cadastral mapping" or "Geospatial Data".

TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

@ozonelarryb

I'm thinking Sean Penn, Mikey Moore and Jimmah Carter in a rowboat. Seanovitch can row while Jimmah hunts bushmeat for Mikey's lunch.

Then sink the boat.

Presto, no mo' ebola.

TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

@holmantx

Maybe we could send a delegation of metrosexuals, douchebags and Nancies to Africa to tell ebola to sod off.

noblefurrtexas
noblefurrtexas topcommenter

@mavdog What difference does THAT make.  We owe Liberia exactly nothing.  In fact, it looks like we've done enough for them, and they've done enough to harm us.

bvckvs
bvckvs topcommenter

@TheRuddSki 

Clearly, you haven't been around an academic institution in a very long time.  Welcome to the 21st century - where social media is a part of everything.

everlastingphelps
everlastingphelps topcommenter

@TheRuddSki I know that liking things on facebook is what I think of when I think of Computer Science.

TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

@wcvemail

The Saudis ably ban possible disease carriers at the Hajj, by prohibiting entry...

They also ably ban infidels, including the sons of apes and pigs, by killing them if they trespass Mecca.

noblefurrtexas
noblefurrtexas topcommenter

@TheRuddSki We need to make it clear that they MUST stay in their own country, and not even attempt to come here. 


Mr. Duncan was an illegal alien with no visa or much of anything else.  His family members are illegals.  And, now THEY have the damned gall to complain that Americans didn't do enough , even though we spent around half-a-million taking care of Duncan and testing and isolating others. 


It really angers me to spend this much money on illegals, and then have them complain we didn't spend enough. 



mavdog
mavdog topcommenter

@noblefurrtexas 

What difference does THAT make

Can you not remember what you wrote? here's a reminder: This particular community is not particularly bright, and many don't speak English.

they do speak English, it is the native language of their country. so it does "make a difference", it shows you don't have any idea what you are talking about.

TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

@bvcks

Admittedly, I have been out in the Real World, unlike professional, lifelong "students" whose major achievement is avoiding the Real World.

I presume your instructional capacity is the science of Making Shit Up, but hopefully, they'll also master the selfie.

TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

@everlastingphelps

They'll never make it in today's society until they master tweeting.

mavdog
mavdog topcommenter

@noblefurrtexas

Duncan was not an "illegal Alien", Mr. Duncan was given a visa to visit his fiancé, who is a legal resident.

Your anger is misplaced.

mavdog
mavdog topcommenter

@TheRuddSki 

and they are "yahooing", too!

wonder if they are "perfectly intelligent"?

noblefurrtexas
noblefurrtexas topcommenter

@mavdog Try this on for size.  NOBODY in his family is a citizen; they are all illegal aliens. 


Duncan was "illegal".  He lied about having been exposed to Ebola, which disqualifies him from legally using a visa.  (that's one reason bot the U.S. and Liberia were considering filing charges against him. 


But, I found totally ungrateful and ungracious for his illegal family members to criticize the hospital and government for not spending enough money on him...at least a half-million so far. 


And, people wonder why Americans have lost respect around the world.  They think we're crazy and/or stupid.

TheRuddSki
TheRuddSki topcommenter

@mavdog

It's rumored that Africa has Internet, just like Vickery Meadows.

mavdog
mavdog topcommenter

@noblefurrtexas

Try this on for size. NOBODY in his family is a citizen; they are all illegal aliens.

what? you think if someone is not a "citizen" they are then "illegal"? you don't understand what a legal resident is? Ever heard of a "green card"?

you can't really be this dense.

Duncan had a visa, so Duncan was a legal visitor. As for Duncan having "lied", you or anyone else do not know for sure. you can speculate, but that is as far as you can go. The facts lean towards Duncan not knowing he had been exposed, and his words support this conclusion. But nobody can say for sure, especially now that the only person who can answer the question is dead.

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