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Doctors With Borders

A Brownsville pediatrician sets the story straight about the children and families crossing the border into Texas.
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Eugenio del Bosque

 

Many years ago, as a young woman, I left the Rio Grande Valley, ready to put the oppressively hot, humid nights and dusty, dry days behind me. But over the years, I kept finding myself drawn back to the people, the beauty, the music and the culture. In 2002, two decades after I had left, I came back home, as a medical student, and then a pediatrician, caring for poor children. First, I worked in Mexico, in a colonia called Derechos Humanos, a place of makeshift homes and no streetlights. The nurses and neighbors of the clinic became my friends. We shared meals in their homes along with stories and gales of laughter.

Now I serve at a clinic run by Brownsville Community Health Center (BCHC), a federally qualified health center in Brownsville. “La Clinica 22,” as it is popularly known because of its street address, is situated among housing projects and schools, next to a park in Brownsville’s Southmost area, less than a mile from the Texas-Mexico border. La Clinica 22 and Derechos Humanos are only three miles apart, but a border wall and thousands of Border Patrol agents, National Guardsmen and militiamen stand between us. These barriers cannot stop the love, nor cut the family ties, that bind our two communities together.

Many of the families who come to La Clinica 22 are originally from Mexico, or they have mixed immigration status—some are U.S. citizens or legal permanent residents, and some are not. Many are “in the process,” meaning they have applied for lawful permanent resident status, naturalization or a visa.

Others have no hope of coming out of the terrifying shadows cast by our broken immigration system. Some have insurance; many do not. At La Clinica 22, we treat them all.

Over the years, I have seen thousands of children, and thousands of mothers and fathers, all with stories that have amazed and, often, haunted me. I have collected mountains of stories, both beautiful and sad. They are stories of fear and worry, and sometimes, of joy. But, most important, they are stories of passion and struggle and love.

Over these past few years, the stories have taken a darker turn. The drug cartels now fight it out in almost every town bordering the river. No longer do we cross the bridge to see old friends. They have asked us not to come. It is too dangerous. If the drug cartel sees them meeting with a white person from the States, our friends would become targets for extortion or worse. Those same dusty streets of Derechos Humanos now have crazed cartel minions on four-wheelers with automatic weapons terrorizing families. No longer would you walk the streets at night, or sleep on the roof of a clinic.

I can no longer remain silent while the predominant U.S. news sources spew hateful lies about the children and families I know intimately. I can no longer remain mute in the face of twisted perceptions of why mothers and fathers would seek safety in the United States for their children. I share these stories because I must. If you hear someone telling lies about your loved ones, at some point, you have to set the story straight.

These stories are of children exposed to the horrible violence in Matamoros, stories of rape and kidnapping. These are stories of mothers willing to do anything to get their children to safety. Here are just a few:

A little boy without his mother

Recently, we received a new patient at La Clinica 22, a 7-year-old boy originally from Matamoros. His mother had sent him to live with his aunt in Brownsville. He was born in the United States, but had spent the last six years in Mexico. His mother didn’t have a proper visa to cross the border anymore.  The aunt told me that the mother wept as she handed her son to her, but the mother was terrified for him. His school in Matamoros frequently closes because of threats of violence. The sound of gunshots from automatic weapons is common in their neighborhood.

Older neighboring children have disappeared and are being forced to work for the cartels. Some are forced to become assassins or to run drugs. The aunt shared that since the boy had moved in with her family, the little boy would often hit the ground shaking when any loud noise was heard. With her permission, I made a call to the school nurse to let her know of his history. She sighed. We have shared similar stories in the past but they seem to be more frequent now. The school nurse and I promised to keep each other apprised of his progress and to try to find resources for him. I had no way to contact his mother, no way to comfort her in her separation from her beautiful 7-year-old boy.

A raped child

Last month, a mother brought her 14-year-old daughter to La Clinica 22. She was seen by one of our nurse practitioners, who later came to my office. In a rush of words, she told me that the girl had been raped on the other side of the border in Matamoros. When the mother took her daughter to the police the next morning to report the assault, they were met with indifference and rudeness. Two days later, the mother and the daughter began receiving death threats. The mother did what any mom would do: She fled to what she perceived as safety, the United States, just on the other side of the border wall, within blocks of La Clinica 22.

A young girl without a father running for her life

A woman came to the clinic with a 13-year-old girl dressed in shorts and a T-shirt. The woman told me that the girl was sent to Brownsville from Ciudad Victoria, Mexico, after her father was murdered by the drug cartel. The girl was the youngest of the family. Her older brothers convinced their mother that it was no longer safe for their sister. The brothers were 18 and 21. They pleaded with their mother that they could perhaps defend themselves against the gangs, but she was too young, too vulnerable. They must send her north, allow her to stay with a family friend, give her a chance to grow up, go to school, and escape the gangs who would take her to be used as they pleased. The girl sat on the examining table seeming much older than her 13 years. She looked me directly in the eye, without tears, as she slowly told me that she missed her father, her friends, her brothers… and her mother. It wasn’t important that she share tears with me. I was a stranger, simply a doctor who might help her navigate this new world.

The new refugees

Since the end of June this year, I have also volunteered at the Catholic Charities shelter at Immaculate Conception Church. The shelter is for Central American refugee families fleeing the violence in Honduras, Guatemala and El Salvador. At the shelter, I hear more troubling stories from mothers, stories that disturb my sleep and preoccupy me during the day.

On a Saturday in August, after a week of being away with my grandchildren, I dropped by the church. I wanted to check in with the volunteers, most of whom had worked there every day, including weekends, since June. They told me there were mothers with children asleep in the playroom. We didn’t awaken them. They needed their rest.

Catholic Charities volunteers had shaped a space in the corner of the playroom with two cots and curtains for privacy. There, tired mothers and children can lie down with pillows for their heads and blankets to cover them, their arms and legs entwined. Like mothers and children everywhere.

"Stand with Refugee Mothers" poster
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“Stand with Refugee Mothers” poster

Once released from the Customs and Border Patrol holding cells with documents stating that they have temporary legal status to be in this country, pending their immigration hearing date, they can travel to their families located throughout the country. Immaculate Conception Church is conveniently located next door to the bus station. Every day, one can see faithful volunteers in green Catholic Charities vests walking to the bus station in the blistering heat to invite the Central American refugees to come have a bite to eat, take a shower and rest before their trip.

The women and children follow these smiling strangers to the cool interior of the church. The first thing they want is a bath, somewhere to wash off the grime from their journey and the Border Patrol holding cells. Their belongings are taken from them at the holding centers, even their shoelaces and hairclips. So at the church the mothers are invited to pick out some clothes for the journey north—one or two outfits, depending on the length of their trip. It is always astonishing to see them emerge from the showers, fresh, the dirt from their hair washed away. A bit of the fear gone from their eyes. As they eat their first warm meal in days, they begin to share their stories.

Mothers fleeing Mexico

A Saturday in late August was a slow day at the shelter. There were, however, two mothers with their three teenage daughters sleeping, intertwined, on two tiny cots in the playroom. Perhaps they slept that way because they were not yet used to feeling safe. “They are from Mexico,” the volunteers tell me in whispers. We all look surprised. Almost all Mexicans, when apprehended by the Border Patrol, are immediately deported back to their country, regardless of any dangers. We all shook our heads.  These young women must have tragic stories to have been allowed to pass. I chose not to wake them from the safety of their embraces.

Mothers with children whose hearts hurt

Early in July, two beautiful young mothers climbed into the mobile medical van: one from Honduras, the other from Guatemala. They both had their daughters with them. The women met while in the Border Patrol holding cells, and befriended each other, as did their daughters. One of the girls, 8-year-old Paulina, told me that her heart hurt. She said that it beat very fast and made her chest ache. She was scared. Indeed, her little heart was racing. After asking the mother the usual questions a doctor asks, I gave the girl some cold Pedialyte and sat and talked to her for a while, while the mother watched my every move. After a few minutes, they both seemed to relax. I listened again to her small chest and told her how very strong and brave her heart sounded, and that her heart was going to be fine. She smiled a beautiful smile, grabbed her mother’s hand and jumped off the seat.

Her new little Guatemalan friend, Isabela, was eager to have me check her heart as well. She climbed up on the bench and told me that her heart hurt really badly sometimes. She bravely opened her shirt for me to listen. Her mother looked at me for a long time and just nodded. I listened to Isabela’s heart and told her that it sounded full of love. She shyly said she missed her papa and that she loved him very much. She had not seen him, the mother said, in two years. “We are going to find him,” the little girl said in Spanish, and “then we will be safe.”

Humiliated mothers

One soon-to-be mother arrived at the shelter with one of the volunteers on the same day as the girls with heartaches. She appeared to be about seven months pregnant, dirty and slumped over, eating an apple. She traveled alone. The Catholic Charities volunteer, as usual, asked her name, her destination, what country she came from and for a phone number in case a family member called searching for her. She gave this information almost by rote, not making eye contact with anyone. She was from El Salvador and was going to Baltimore, she said.

She had been on the road for a month and in the Border Patrol holding cell for a week. Then one of the volunteer women softly invited her to pick out some new clothes, so that she could go shower and change. A while later, the mother walked into the dining area, clean and fresh in a new white shirt embroidered with deep purple flowers and with her thick wet hair tied back in a ponytail. She was beautiful with dark black eyes.

One of the men volunteers offered her a plate of food. She looked at us, sat down and started to eat, and tears ran down the sides of her face, as she started talking, “What do they [the Border Patrol] think we are, dogs?” she cried. “They only gave us small amounts of water and apples to eat during the day. The meals they brought, a dog wouldn’t eat. And if you do not finish in 10 minutes, they come and take it away.” She continued between bites of food and tears, “Everyone understands bad words when someone yells them at you, whether they are said in Spanish or English. They say ugly, ugly words to everyone. Groseros. I will never forget.”

Devastated sister, aunt, mother

I went to the playroom one day with one of the volunteers. It was before we had cots and a private space to rest. A mother was lying on a pallet in the corner of the room, fitfully dozing, as two of her children climbed all over her. The little girls were 3 and 4. Ray, the volunteer, told me that the mother had come with her two daughters and a 9-year-old nephew from Honduras. The nephew was taken from her by the Border Patrol, because she wasn’t his mother, and moved to another holding cell. She had to call her sister, his mother, and tell her that she did not know where her son was. She hadn’t seen him since he was taken from her. And no, she told her sister, she did not know how to find him. Ray shook his head, and said, “We are trying to let her rest.”

Back at home: a call from a terrified mother

In early September, my husband and I received a frantic text late in the night from a friend of ours living in Valle Hermoso, Mexico, a small town just a short drive south of our home. She texted that her son, a teacher, had been kidnapped. He is 20 with a wife and a new baby. The cartel thugs stole everything: his phone, his ID, his cash, his car. He pleaded with them to let him go. For some reason that night they must have remembered some tiny forgotten part of their hearts, he said, for they released him on the outskirts of town. He ran, walked and hid, until he made it to a phone and called his wife and his mother. He is now in hiding, afraid to go to work, afraid for his family. His mother told me the next day that before, when the neighbors’ children disappeared or houses were burned, she felt very bad and was afraid. “Now,” she said, “I cannot stop the shaking in my legs.”

The politicians in Austin and in Washington, D.C., talk about the issue of the children on the border, as if children and mothers fleeing for their lives was just another political game, with the usual winners and losers. For us on the border, it is not a game. It is personal. And the idea that mothers and fathers in Mexico and Central America are somehow less than human, less than loving parents, and would willy-nilly send their children north exposing them to great risks just for financial gain offends my moral sensibilities as a physician, as a grandmother and as a mother. Of all of the stories I have heard over the years, this perhaps is the most disturbing of all: that we as a nation have chosen to abandon children in need and mothers in grief.

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  • Rae

    We have heard these stories before. They happen everyday hear in the United States.

    • Guest

      “Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. We are caught in an inescapable network of mutuality, tied in a single garment of destiny. Whatever affects one directly, affects all indirectly. Never again can we afford to live with the narrow, provincial “outside agitator” idea.”

      -MLK, Letter From a Birmingham Jail

    • Nick

      Somehow we must come to see that in this pluralistic, interrelated society we are all tied together in a single garment of destiny, caught in an inescapable network of mutuality. And by working with determination and realizing that power must be shared, I think we can solve this problem, and may I say in conclusion that our goal is freedom and I believe that we’re going to get there. It’s going to be more difficult from here on in but I believe we’re going to get there because however much she strays away from it, the goal of America is freedom and Our destiny is tied up with the destiny of America

      We are going to win our freedom because both the sacred heritage of our nation and the eternal will of the Almighty God are embodied in our echoing demands. So however difficult it is during this period, however difficult it is to continue to live with the agony and the continued existence of racism, however difficult it is to live amidst the constant hurt, the constant insult and the constant disrespect, I can still sing we shall overcome. We shall overcome because the arc of the moral universe is long but it bends towards justice. We shall overcome because Carlisle is right. “No lie can live forever.” We shall overcome because William Cullen Bryant is right. “Truth crushed to earth will rise again.” We shall overcome because James Russell Lowell is right. “Truth forever on the scaffold, wrong forever on the throne.” Yet that scaffold sways the future. We shall overcome because the Bible is right. “You shall reap what you sow.” With this faith we will be able to hew out of the mountain of despair, a stone of hope. With this faith we will be able to transform the jangling discords of our nation into a beautiful symphony of brotherhood. With this faith we will be able to speed up the day when all of God’s children all over this nation – black men and white men, Jews and Gentiles, Protestants and Catholics will be able to join hands and sing in the words of the old negro spiritual, “Free at Last, Free at Last, Thank God Almighty, We are Free At Last!!”

      • 1bimbo

        only this article is about illegal central americans.. not quite the same when you try to leech off the plight of black people from the civil rights movement era?

    • me2u2

      Cities like Detroit have murder rates that are higher than most countries in Central America. Why don’t we do something to help children in those cities?

  • Nick

    “Today everybody is talking about the fact that we live in one world; because of globalization, we are all part of the same planet. They talk that way, but do they mean it? We should remind them that the words of the Declaration [of Independence] apply not only to people in this country, but also to people all over the world. People everywhere have the same right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.”

    ― Howard Zinn

  • flora68

    Heartbreaking.

  • Cathy Davis

    Thank you, Dr. Marsha Griffin, for your work and for writing first-hand stories that we need to read.

    The current humanitarian crisis is the story of all of us in this country, at one or another level of generational lookback. It is the story of my great-grandmother who brought her 4 sons here from Ireland. How did we Americans become so hard, so unwelcoming of the next souls yearning to be free? They, like our ancestors, want a safe place to work, to see their children in school, to drink clear water and use an operable toilet, and most of them are fine with being at the bottom of the income scale and doing the work we don’t want to do; moreover they would be ever so proud to be taxpayers because that would mean they had worked for-pay and provided for their families.

    The immigrants who bring their Central American culture of hard work and family devotion to Texas are making our land a better place, and they deserve our sponsorship. Moreover, our US politicians and business leaders should be working with their counterparts in Mexico to build factories, customer-support call centers, and colleges to train tomorrow’s higher-paid Mexican employees. If we do not find ways to help the Central American humans who are fleeing appalling conditions, and help those nations establish sound economics, we will deserve every negative adjective our detractors use to describe our country. I ask you all, what would Jesus have us do?

  • RTMartin

    America! Since when is another country’s irresponsibility our responsibility? They procreated, allowed drug cartels to flourish, lie, steal, cheat, and invade other people’s countries – repeating these “sad stories” for American Suckers. Remember this load of horse crap: “They are only here to do the jobs Americans do not want to do….they work for pennies on the dollar.” Correct me if I am wrong….it was a majority of the foreign workers DEMANDING: Higher wages, free education, free housing, better schools, the right to vote, and my favorite – the right to avoid prosecution for their violations….TOO MUCH… What’s happening now…the American Holocaust…

    • http://teamcfadvance.org Denard Springle

      If there is an ‘American Holocaust’ it will be brought by the very wealthy upon the very poor and middle class, and will be supported by angry, ignorant bigots like yourself. Grow up. Unless you’re a full blood native American indian, you wouldn’t even be here if your ancestors (that’s someone in your family tree) hadn’t moved here from somewhere else. And if you are a full blood, shame on you for adopting the very same oppressive world view that whites laid upon your ancestors. Either way – you’re arguments are moot and come from a place of hatred. Your forefathers must be proud.

      • me2u2

        Unlimited immigration sure helped the Native Americans, didn’t it?

        • http://teamcfadvance.org Denard Springle

          ‘Unlimited’ immigration has never existed. Period. And comparing a (relatively small by today’s standards) conquering army of well armed militia with South American children fleeing from oppression demonstrates your ignorance of history. It’s a false equivalency.

          • me2u2

            If we permit people to just show up at our border and allow them to come in without a passport or visa, then we are permitting unlimited immigration.

            The Native Americans were not virtually wiped out by a “well armed militia”. They were overwhelmed by vast numbers of invaders who took their land and who brought the diseases that were responsible for killing most of the Native Americans.

  • FriendlyAnonymous

    On one hand, what person with a heart would be unsympathetic to those who suffer?

    But on the other hand, I am also a realist. The author basically posits the U.S. as the altruistic caretaker of the hemisphere, if not the world. Indeed, why have international borders when there is suffering occurring outside of the U.S.?

    Reality: it’s not the U.S. responsibility to altruistically mend every failing country in the world; that’s each respective countries’ job. Back home is traumatic? Well, the harsh conditions at home are for the home government/ society to remedy. Absent a defensible claim for asylum/ refugee status, these who suffer have no claim to any U.S. immigration benefit. Sorry.

    As to those who are already unlawfully in the U.S.: aspiring economic migrants/ unlawful U.S. entrants, should not be rewarded with U.S. immigration benefits, *especially* U.S. citizenship. Ideally, a limited-duration work visa for the unskilled worker should be allowed. One that does *not* create a new path to lawful permanent residence a/k/a Green Card (GC). Next-best is GC benefit that is *ineligible* for U.S. citizenship.

    As to an overall program: the U.S. should pursue U.S. interests in its foreign policy as much as in its immigration policy.

  • me2u2

    Why don’t those invaders go back to their country and apply for a visa at a US consulate, like they should have done in the first place?

    For every invader we permit to stay here, there is someone in some foreign country who has complied with all the requirements for getting a US visa, and we have to tell that person, “Sorry, we’re full”. We are favoring law-breakers over law-abiders.

    • http://teamcfadvance.org Denard Springle

      Clearly you are unfamiliar with the term ‘asylum’ and what benefits it holds for those fleeing… fleeing mind you… from terror and oppression in their own countries.

      How would you like it if ‘merica turned into a police state, for real, and the government and thugs stole your belongings, killed the men in your life, raped your women and children and forced them to be drug mule’s for the cartel? And how would you like it if you ran across the border seeking asylum from this nightmare, only to be met by the natives at the border with signs and guns saying ‘Sorry, we’re full – why don’t you go down to your local consulate and fill out the paperwork like everybody else’? (except there are no consulates in these cartel ravaged areas, oops… little bit of an oversight on your part, eh?).

      But, it’s easier just to speak from ignorance, isn’t it? Don’t bother putting yourself in the shoes of these people. Don’t bother having any compassion for any of the stories presented here, or the thousands of stories not presented here. (Extrapolate – it’s not that hard). Nope, much easier to be ignorant, rude and build straw man arguments about something which you clearly know nothing about.

      Good show.

      • me2u2

        There is terror and oppression in many countries. Why don’t we admit everyone from every one of those countries?

        Most developing countries are Hell for wimmin. Many countries in Africa, as well as Kurdistan, practice female genital mutilation. If we are compassionate we should admit every womon from any one of those places. South Africa is the country with highest per capita rate of rape in the world. The DR Congo probably has a higher per capita rate of rape, but it is impossible to know because in fact the DR Congo is not really a country but rather a geographical area in Central Africa as large as the USA east of the Mississippi. Almost everywhere in that area rape is an everyday fact of life. If we are going to admit people fleeing violence, we should start with wimmin from those places.

        We should admit anyone from Palestine or Iraq, in view of the fact that the USA was almost entirely responsible for destroying those societies.

        If we permit entry to anyone from any violent area, we are going to admit hundreds of millions of people. Are you OK with that?

        • http://teamcfadvance.org Denard Springle

          More false equivalency.

          We are talking about an area that *borders* our country, first of all. This is a completely different situation than most other places in the world, except Cuba… and Cubans are still landing on the beaches in Florida because they can, sometimes, reach us.

          Every other place you noted *does not border* us. You cannot, then, apply the same brush to people from those places because, frankly, they cannot come in the numbers that people who *border with us* can. There is a difference. They are different problems to consider and legislate for.

          Secondly, they can (those people from other places you mention) and do regularly immigrate to this country – under many different circumstances – some with Visa’s, some through asylum, some through other due process and yes, some even illegally.

          And yes, we should absolutely let anyone who wishes from Palestine or Iraq to immigrate to this country – *especially* because we are almost entirely responsible for destroying those societies. The same as we allow Japanese to (continue) to immigrate to this country after we dropped two nuclear GD bombs on them. Why wouldn’t we?

          At no time, and in neither circumstance, is this any kind of ‘unlimited immigration’ or free pass for these people (as your other post suggests). They are arrested, put into jails – in some cases, into crates – and are given due process the same as anyone else. Those that claim asylum are given it if their circumstances merit it. This is decided by a judge. Those that don’t are sent home – usually to die anyway.

          Even then, they are not given a ‘free pass’, as you apparently imagine it to be, if they are granted asylum. Many of these children will go on to live very poor lives in this country. Some may succeed more than their wildest dreams, but most will live below the poverty level predominantly for the bulk of their lives. But… at least they are far less likely to die at the hands of murderous drug cartels, or anything else, here.

          In time, the newest members of our society may prosper and continue to add to the melting pot that is this nation of ours – and twenty years from now there will be some other immigrants from some other war, or otherwise, torn country… and the people we let in today will probably have learned to be the bigoted jackals that make up some of our populace today and rally against those immigrants.

          You really should read some history. Especially Ellis Island and New York history. You’ll quickly discover that you’re kind of evil bigotry has reared its ugly head before. Most likely one of your own kin felt it. Now you give it out to the next ‘undesirable’ generation of immigrants. Ironic? No.. just sad.

          • me2u2

            No, there should be no difference between asylum-seekers, whether or not they come from countries that border the USA. Why should there be? A person in danger is a person in danger.

            The number of visas we grant to people from countries where wimmin are in the most danger is dwarfed by the number of illegals we are allowing to stay. According to statistics from the US State department, 2,779 visas were granted to people in the DR Congo in 2013. 732 were granted to people from South Africa. Most likely not all of them were to wimmin. As for three other hellholes for wimmin, Mali got 169, Mauretania, 71, and Niger 56.

            As far as the Middle East goes, most Palestinians are in Israel or Jordan. There were 3,477 visas granted to people from Jordan and 571 to people from Israel. Almost certainly not all of those visas went to Palestinians. 4,335 visas were granted to people from Iraq.

            By contrast, over 52,000 undocumented minors arrived at the southern US border in just the past 8.5 months. That is just minors – that does not include the undocumented adults. Most estimates say there are over 11,000,000 undocumented immigrants in the USA.

            So the numbers are in no way comparable.

            Those illegals are granted a court hearing, but many do not show up for court. If US law enforcement tracks them down, how much valuable law enforcement resources will that take? How many drug shipments could we intercept if we didn’t use up valuable resources on these illegals? And if we don’t track them down, then we are in effect permitting unlimited immigration.

            The idea that they cannot go to the nearest US consulate and apply for a visa does not stand up to scrutiny. If they cannot travel 200 km. to a major city to apply for a visa, then how do they travel thousands of km. through Central America and the entire length of Mexico to get to the US border?

            Fine, let’s spend a little more money to establish a few more regional consulates in the Central American countries from which most illegals come (mainly three – El Salvador, Honduras, and Guatemala). Then the illegals will have no excuse at all.

          • http://teamcfadvance.org Denard Springle

            Yes, there is a logistical difference between countries that do not border the USA and the ones that do border the USA. They are different problems and require different solutions. Not everything is a nail just because you have a hammer.

            The numbers you quote are quite a bit misleading and I’m sure you’ve done this intentionally to give weight to your argument. However, you fail to realize this is the internet and all that information is freely available. http://travel.state.gov/content/dam/visas/Statistics/AnnualReports/FY2013AnnualReport/FY13AnnualReport-TableIV.pdf

            In the above report, in 2013, 473,115 immigrant visa’s were issued in total and over 9 million non-immigrant (e.g. work) visa’s were issued. So, in 2013 we let about 10 million people into this country on Visa’s alone. 191,199 of the visa’s from the Western Hemisphere (e.g. South America and Canada inclusive).

            This *does not* include refugees entering from abroad or asylum-seekers in the United States. This information is handily available from DHS, however. http://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/publications/ois_rfa_fr_2013.pdf

            In the above report, in 2013, we granted asylum to roughly 70,000 people, of those 70k, only 4,400 of them were from Latin America.

            Now, as to your comparison of undocumented workers to the humanitarian crisis now going on at the border, it is simply apples and oranges. These children are not simply being released into the wild and expected to show up for a court hearing. You act as though they cross the border, pick a number and wait in the desert for their number to be called. This is not at all what is happening, and your gross misrepresentation speaks either to your ignorance or your bigotry, and to nothing else. These are not ‘undocumented’ children. They are refugees. There is a difference. I’m sorry you lack the mental capacity to understand this.

            As to your argument that these people, fleeing tyranny and certain death, should go 200km (or more) to a consulate – to fill out some paperwork and return home to wait their turn – is fallacious. Once again, you’re conflating a humanitarian crisis with those simply seeking to enter this country for work. Once again, there is a difference, they are different problems, and using the same hammer for both is both mentally lazy and just setting yourself up for failure.

          • me2u2

            Are you saying these “refugees” (I don’t think they are) have no intention of working in the USA? Are you saying they have no intention of staying in the USA once the murder rate in their home country goes down?

            I think that is not the case. These people (is a 17-year-old really a child?) plan to stay in the USA indefinitely, they plan to work in the USA, they plan to become citizens, and they intend to bring in the rest of their families, including adults, at some time in the future, under the convention of “family reunification”. To a Central American family with a number of children, sending one to the US border is a good investment.

            There are other countries with low rates of murder. Nicaragua, Cuba, and Costa Rica all have low murder rates. They are all closer to El Salvador, Guatemala, and Honduras, even bordering them. Why don’t these “refugees” go to one of those countries? Because they want jobs in the USA. The violence is just an excuse.

          • me2u2

            You want to call these invaders “refugees”? Here is the official definition of “refugee” from the US State Department: “A refugee is someone who has fled from his or her home country and
            cannot return because he or she has a well-founded fear of persecution
            based on religion, race, nationality, political opinion or membership in
            a particular social group.”

            “Religion, race, nationality…” In which of these categories do those people showing up on our southern border fit? None. None of those categories is “lives in a high crime area”. Those people are not refugees. They are not fleeing a Holocaust. They are looking for a job.

            Further: “The first step for most refugees is to register with the United Nations
            High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR) in the country to which s/he has
            fled. UNHCR has the mandate to provide international protection to
            refugees. UNHCR determines if an individual qualifies as a refugee and,
            if so, works toward the best possible durable solution for each refugee:
            safe return to the home country, local integration, or third-country
            resettlement.”

            Is this happening? No. Especially not resettlement in a third country. No one really believes these are refugees. Calling them refugees is just one more ploy to allow illegals to remain in the USA.

          • http://teamcfadvance.org Denard Springle

            And you want to call these refugees ‘invaders’, when you already answered your own question about why they are refugees… you just fail (choose not) to see it. They are: ‘someone who has fled from his or her home country and
            cannot return because he or she has a well-founded fear of persecution’. Period. the ‘based on…’ bits a) aren’t legal definitions and b) ‘membership in a particular social group (e.g. not of the cartel)’ covers it if you want to be technical.

            Furthermore, this is not the legally binding definition of a refugee – this is information they post for public consumption – the legal definition is actually quite broad and doesn’t restrict ‘based on’ any particular reason. The ones listed by the State dept serve only to list some of the more common examples of why people flee persecution.

            Saying these people simply live in a ‘high crime area’, as if we’re comparing inner city living to the very real lawlessness and daily threat of death most of these people face at the hands of brutal thugs who control the area (e.g. no police, no army, no ‘guards at the gated community’), is again false equivalency and again you are using it to justify a bigoted position. Also, saying they are not ‘fleeing a holocaust’, as if this is the only circumstance under which anyone should be granted asylum, is also false equivalency and also used to justify your bigotry. Slice it or dice it any way you want to pal… you’re just a bigot. And, if you don’t mind me saying so, a heartless coward.

            Ah, back to statistics you pull out of your a$$ again, are we? Ok, Einstein…. let’s do this.

            In the *first 6 months* of 2014… while the United States of America recorded approximately 52,800 claims (for asylum)…

            This is from the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees mid-year trends report. http://www.unhcr.org/5423f9699.html

            So… hmm… Is the *first* step happening then? Apparently so.

            Is your preferred solution, resettlement in a third country, happening? Probably not, nor should it. Resettlement only happens when the person has fled to a country where they could still be persecuted (usually by the same elements) – such as fleeing Honduras and going to Mexico for asylum, for example. Which is *why* they don’t do this, as you suggest, and instead go thousands of miles (risking life and limb in the process) to flee to our border instead. I guess they’d rather deal with white redneck morons instead of the cartel. I know I would if I were in their shoes.

            In any case, your choice of words in our dialog illustrate clearly that you are a simply a racist bigot with no real objection to allowing our country to do what it has always done… take in the weak, the poor, the downtrodden and give them a place where they might have a chance at a better life. Your only objection is that these are brown South American people. Ask yourself… if these were white European people, would you even give a rats behind? Probably not.

            So, take your racism and your bigotry and go masturbate while dreaming of what you would do to the brown children you seem to hate so much, and leave the real legislating and handling of this crisis to people who actually have a clue.

  • me2u2

    When we allow illegals to stay in America, we are enabling dictatorships in other countries.

    Any dictator south of the border can say to would-be reformers, “If you don’t like the way things are here, go up to the USA and get a good job. And send back some of those Yankee dollars while you’re at it”.

    Letting those illegals stay in America acts as a safety valve for unjust societies. Instead of those people staying down there and fighting for their rights, they are coming up here instead, allowing those governments down there to remain corrupt and undemocratic.

  • fatibel

    You didn’t even read the story, did you?

  • Anna Green

    I’ve seen your posts on other articles and forums. You are truly a troll.

  • 1bimbo

    i sure did

  • fatibel

    Can’t tell from your comments.

  • me2u2

    No, there is a lot of truth in that person’s obnoxious post. The (mostly white) elite who want to have millions of low-skilled foreign laborers stay here are trying to replace the African-American working class.

    The people who benefit from allowing illegals to stay are people in the upper classes. The people who are harmed by letting illegals stay are people in the working class, including the African-American working class.